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Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Ivy League Blogging Lesson

I've learned a couple things in the last week. One, try not to blog late at night. Your judgment is impaired and you might just believe high tech spinmeisters.

The other thing is never delete a post, no matter how much others - including Mayoral spokesmen, dedicated fans and your fellow bloggers - purty please you.

Yes this all goes back to the story of Mayoral son Antonio Villaraigosa, Jr. and his pre-freshman hijinks as he prepares to enter Princeton University.

You may remember on the heels of a number of a scandals involving his father (still under investigation by the way) that Antonio Vee (as he has referred to himself online) posted a series of comments on the social networking site Facebook referring to alleged drinking, partying, fake ID making and getting a pass from local law enforcement.

The posts created quite a stir - including getting the dum dums stirred up, a great time on the air for John and Ken (and by the way J&K did your producer ever tell you that I called and left my number?) and some late night spinmeistering from Tony Villar spokes-hole Matt Szabo.

And then I got clowned that I got clowned. That is someone sent me an email claiming that he was the author of the IvyGate blog piece that started it all and that the IvyGate is a fake news blog like The Onion.

Since then I think I've been re-convinced (I hope) that the IvyGate blog is legit. I was contacted by the real bloggers and that the stories about Antonio Vee were true (or at least not fake).

Upon some sage advice of blogger David Markland (yes, the one I called an idiot), I've also learned you never delete posts. Make a retraction, issue corrections, but never delete.

Yup, I goofed. I admit it.

So the real question is (after AVJR's behaivor and possible pass from local law enforcement) who is the bogus IvyGate blogger - the person who posed as writer Jacob Savage?

We don't know yet - but we're on their tail. The fake email has been traced to a computer somewhere in Thousand Oaks.

Inquiring minds want to know.

PS: On the other hand - maybe I've been clowned one more time - and IvyGate is fake. A comment on their blog says that like The Onion, IvyGate is "characterized by hard-hitting fact-based journalism." This sure is shaping up to be an insane summer.

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112 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Okay ... don't sweat it to death... the pics alone supported the story about Junior. Either way, it appears likely most, if not all, the story is correct - if you have some shred of doubt, then just add a comment or paragraph indicating that some aspects of the story MAY be in question ... further confirmation one way or another to come later when we are able ... probably sufficient. But I tend to think the original info on this one was pretty correct...

July 16, 2007 10:06 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

Transparency and accountability. The mayor could take some lessons from you.

July 16, 2007 10:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HAHHAHAHAHAH

So you pretend to be Mayor Sam for nearly 2 years, and someone pretends to be this jacob person and you are all upset?

July 16, 2007 11:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam,

Ivy Gate does admit that their journalistic integrity is the same as the "Onion."

That should tell you everything, you are being played again for fun.

The sad part is they are using you to attack the Mayor's son.

And you are letting them.

July 16, 2007 11:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ac-clown-ability is an issue, but don't worry Mayor Sam, Zuma Dogg is the most acclownable of all!

July 16, 2007 11:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, race card.

Zuma admits to "tracing" blogs, after having waxed paranoic about his being hacked -- maybe one or two were lost in cyberspace, you didn't hit "post?"

You sure could "teach some lessons." In transparency.

And Jon & Ken "have your number."

July 16, 2007 11:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you watched NBC news with Paul Moyer...you've seen the end of Villaraigosa's career.

July 16, 2007 11:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SHAME ON YOU!
MR. MAYOR THE INVESTIGATION STARTS NOW, HAD OVER THE PAPER WORK, WE THE PUBLIC WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN UP TOO!SHAME ON YOU !

July 16, 2007 11:17 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Zuma admits to "tracing" blogs [WHERE? I MAY HAVE ELUDED THAT I KNEW WHERE IT CAME FROM...DID I SAY "I" TRACED IT? Maybe someone else did and passed on the info and based on additional info said what i said...but i don't feel like going over all my posts, so please repost where I "admitted to "tracing"], after having waxed paranoic about his being hacked [NOT PARANOIA...confirmed hacking on two separate days...the fact you are trying to make it seem like it wasn't hacked says a lot] -- maybe one or two were lost in cyberspace, you didn't hit "post?" [NO...I HIT "PUBLISH" A FEW TIMES...refreshed...logged off and back on...then posted entirely new "fresh" stories ontop...still, the same "older" version of the blog from a few days before. NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT...AND AGAIN...INFORMATION PASSED ON TO ZD SECONDS THE MOTION...SO PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING...AND I'M SURE OTHER FOLKS WITNESSED IT...THIS MORNING FOR EXAMPLE...AND YES, EVENTUALLY IT RESTORES ITSELF...BUT A COUPLE HOURS IS LONG ENOUGH.

July 16, 2007 11:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JUST GOT THE WORD HILLARY WILL BE DROPPING YOU THIS WEEK ! MR. MAYOR HA HA HA !YOU ARE A JOKE GO BACK TO MEXICO !
HORRAY FOR CHANNEL 4 NBC!

July 16, 2007 11:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WOW!!!!!

That was some report by Channel 4 news!!!

47,000 e-mails!!!!! And Thomas Saenz, the mayors attorney, willnot turn them over! By contrast, Mayor Hahn turned everything over following similar requests! Did you see that 4 foot stack of material Hahn turned over compared to that really thin manmila folder that Villar turned over>

What was it that overall campaign them that Parke ran Antonio on - bringing integrity to city hall? What was al that stuff about tranparency and open government.

Thomas Saenz just looked the fool - funny how Antonio has that affect on people.

A private plane at city cost?

Bye, bye Tony! NBC lawyers are going to court to get the rest of the information.

July 16, 2007 11:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Under the California Public Records Act.

I want Mayor Villaragosa to release complete calendar, emails, text, and love messages.

July 16, 2007 11:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Channel 4 news airs again at 4:00 in the morning.

NBC lawyers are going after Antonio's Blackberry. Isn't that how Corina found out about Mirthala? There are 47,000 messages in that blackberry and the mayor's attorney is saying he was just checking scores!!!!

Parke, it is over, Antonio will hav eto resign! How much of City of L.A. money was spent to get this sicko laid?

Parke, do you stil want to question Jim hahn's character?

July 16, 2007 11:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Monday At 11 PM: Mayor Villaraigosa
July 16, 2007
Watch Ana Garcia's report on the KNBC News at 11 p.m

http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=129355

July 16, 2007 11:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Congratulations to Channel 4 and NBC - who owns Telemundo. Every media outlet gave Antonio a free pass for two years, but leave it up to this pervert to create a scandal were the inegrity of a media outlet comes into question. Now the floodgates are open.

Parke, you can't put this genie back in the bottle.

Every reporter out there will be on this new evidence that Thomas Saenz is withholding. Maybe even the L.A. Times wsill finally do some objective reporting - notice how they haven't run one story of this scandal on Sunday (70% of their readership is on Sunday).

July 16, 2007 11:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The report didn't say that there were 47,000 messages, but rather that the Blueberry used 47,000 kilobytes. Some of that could have been used to send e-mails, and other kilobytes could have been used, for instance, to check sports scores on the Internet.

July 16, 2007 11:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In recent months, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer and the state's other constitutional officers have released their calendars. And the mayors of San Diego and San Jose also make their schedules available to the public.

"I have no secrets," Schwarzenegger said in announcing last fall that he would release his calendar.

TIME PORTAL 4/07/05

"Villaraigosa Chief of Staff Jimmy Blackman said the councilman was happy to provide his calendar. "It is our hope that other city officials display the same willingness to demonstrate open, transparent government," Blackman said."

He said Villaraigosa had redacted only phone numbers and "a small number of personal family-related meetings or appointments" in the calendars.

July 16, 2007 11:34 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

I haven't seen the story...can someone post more specifics....but from what i have just seen, so far, looks like NBC/Uni payback for the mayor's besmirching of Telemundo's credibility. And even if people say, "she stopped covering the mayor as soon as they heated up the relationship"...perception becomes the public reality, and so looks like NBC/Universal just pulled the plug on Antonio's machine.

July 16, 2007 11:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SHAME ON YOU MAYOR!
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
SHAME ON YOU!

July 16, 2007 11:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"A lot of sex scandals in the news this week, it's unbelievable. Our own mayor here in Los Angeles admitted to having an affair with a very young, very attractive reporter from the Spanish language network, whose job it was to cover him. Talk about being an embedded reporter, man, gives that a whole new meaning. But I guess the mayor got some good news today, he got a big endorsement from In-N-Out. " --Jay Leno

July 16, 2007 11:39 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Did the mayoral campaign for a certain brand-name CM just begin this evening?

Oh no...everyone who was waiting in line realizes it is an open free-for all...STEP DOWN, OR NOT...BASICALLY, THERE WILL BE NO INCUMBENT IN THE MAYOR'S RACE!!!

[Hey city historians...when's the last time THAT happened?]

July 16, 2007 11:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:28, this doesn't show the whole report. Do you know the link where I can find the entire report? Perhaps a transcript?

July 16, 2007 11:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SUNG: Ding-dong, the witch is dead. The witch is dead. The witch is dead.

Ding-dong, the wicked witch is dead.

July 16, 2007 11:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:32

Parke Skleton's sppin staff wil be working late tonight! Time to earn those millions of dollars Antonio has paid you over the last 6 years Parke. All he had to do was keep his cock in his pants, and you couldn't be there to keep his zipper up. Just like Ricardo Torres predicted - self destruction!

July 16, 2007 11:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/#mea=128515

July 16, 2007 11:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did you hear what happened today with Mayor Villaraigosa? I guess he tried to give someone the key to the city but it didn’t work because his wife had the locks changed. JAY LENO

There’s a heatwave in L.A. and all across the country. Some say global warming, some say that other mysterious phenomenon — summer. FERGUSON

July 16, 2007 11:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villarsalinas in NYC28 minutes ago by Kevin Roderick
NBC 4 led tonight's late newscast with a five-minute piece by Ana Garcia reporting that Mirthala Salinas got the only one-on-one interview with Mayor Villaraigosa during a trip to New York in March 2006. She was there reporting for ...


LA Observed - http://www.laobserved.com/

July 16, 2007 11:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:27: and how did it turn out for Hahn, exactly? Hahn was a wimp AND a crook. Who would want to run for Mayor, anyway? The job sucks.

July 16, 2007 11:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can't the City Council fire Thomas Saenz and appoint Rocky to be the Mayor's lawyer - the way the city charter intended?

Why does NBC have to go to court to get these records? What happened to "ope transparent" government?

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy!!!!! Typical of Parke Skelton candidates thinking their own campaign propoganda doesn't apply to them.

Where is Nick Pacheco or Jim Hahn on this issue. This is your chance to clear your Skelton tainted names!

July 16, 2007 11:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nestor Lopez, who at the time was a receptionist for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, falsely reported he was stabbed June 3 at about 3:30 a.m.

July 17, 2007 12:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:57

Hahn may be a wimp - he proved that himself. But as far as being a crook, only a figment of Parke Skelton's imagination. Where are the charges? indictments? convictions? He certainly had a more transparent goverment than Antonio does right now.

July 17, 2007 12:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Z is right about one thing: Ch 4 is especially tough because it's the Telemundo affiliate, and wants to show that it has "integrity" after all. Even though Telemundo made Salinas read the divorce announcement after she told them she didn't want to, and they knew about the affair.
Who is investigating Tele/Ch. 4?

July 17, 2007 12:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I saw the "Welcome to America" Posh Beckham show, and I almost liked her until she made a fool of herself at her son's Little League game. The kids asked her to pitch to them, and saying, "Well, I never claimed to be good at sports, not one bit," and "I'm a girly-girl," she wobbled into midfield in her spike heels, and with the ever-so slightest runway turn, pitched a wobbly ball in her teeny, tiny miniskirt.

Thanks, Mom.

July 17, 2007 12:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Geeez. Telemundo didn't make Salinas report the divorce. She asked her anchor friend for a favor and call in sick.

July 17, 2007 12:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

April 2005

Villaraigosa Chief of Staff Jimmy Blackman said the councilman was happy to provide his calendar. "It is our hope that other city officials display the same willingness to demonstrate open, transparent government," Blackman said.

July 17, 2007 12:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Take a look at that NBC video again. The beginning of the video shows two women on stage with Antonio - Cindy Montanez and Maria Elena Durazo - two other women that Antonio has had sexual relations with and subsequently appointed to high ranking commissions. How many other of his girlfriends have been appointed to commisions or received city contracts?

July 17, 2007 12:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Allegations of “pay-to-play” and other improprieties made Hahn vulnerable, and the voters spoke loudly, saying they want City Hall to “clean up its act,” and giving Villaraigosa the go-ahead to do the job.

The bad news is that now he must deliver on his promises to “find at least $30 million in waste, fraud and inefficiencies to hire more police officers,” put “300 new officers on our streets now,” “make the Port of Los Angeles—which is responsible for 20 percent of the air pollution in the greater LA region—take every available step to reduce pollution,” “mandate that DWP clean up its natural gas-fired power plants in the LA Basin,” “completely convert our City’s vehicle fleet to clean fuels,” “use Carl Moyer funds to convert vehicles from diesel to clean fuels,” “increase…transit usage by expanding our bus and rail systems,” and “encourage construction along transit corridors so that we can reduce traffic congestion and pollution.” Villaraigosa has many more promises to make Los Angeles a “City of parks and greenway,” to increase “affordable workforce housing,” to “get traffic moving again,” to “clean…house at City Hall,” and “make LA animal friendly.”
A long list of good intentions, but time will tell whether Villaraigosa will confront the same brick walls Hahn faced now that the voters have put him in the Mayor’s office.

July 17, 2007 12:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jay Leno make sit six night in a row:

"It was so hot today that Antonio Villaraigosa had an affair with Ann Coulter just to cool off."

Can someone forward those Torres flyers to Jay, maybe Ricardo can get some roylaties from these jokes.

July 17, 2007 12:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is the tall dude, blue shirt, black jacket, right behind av?

July 17, 2007 12:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Cindy Montanez and Maria Elena Durazo - two other women that Antonio has had sexual relations with and subsequently appointed to high ranking commissions."

VILLASTD IS SICK.

July 17, 2007 12:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

City audit cites slow payments
Los Angeles Times, CA - 13 minutes ago
A $1-billion bond failed to pass in November's election, and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has indicated he would like to try again next year.

07/16

July 17, 2007 12:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

the demise of two of the cities biggest rats and all in one week. look what they both have in common, they both help illegals break the law and they both are messed up in sex scandals. oh, and they both allow others to suffer while they look out for their own asses.

July 17, 2007 12:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

IN THE LAST 18 MINUTES, LA TIMES HAS PUT UP 4 VILLARAIGOSA DISTRACTIONS. WHAT AMMO! MAV HAS LA TIMES BY THE BALLS.

1. WHO ARE THE WRITERS?
2. WHO IS THE EDITOR?
3. CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION & WRITE LETTER OF COMPLAINT TO 1 & 2

City audit cites slow payments
Los Angeles Times, CA - 13 minutes ago
A $1-billion bond failed to pass in November's election, and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has indicated he would like to try again next year. ...

Opposite sides of the coin on life in the Golden State
Los Angeles Times, CA - 14 minutes ago
He eventually gets around to mentioning illegal immigrants, but adds: "A person like [LA Mayor] Tony Villaraigosa doesn't represent the best interest of LA, ...

California first
Los Angeles Daily News, CA - 15 minutes ago
Arnold Schwarzenegger and LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa - have more political capital than your typical state governor or city mayor. ...

California's dropout problem
Los Angeles Times, CA - 18 minutes ago
In Los Angeles, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa forced an awareness of the dropout crisis in a district that has coolly accepted the slide of thousands of ...

July 17, 2007 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:16

The guy right behind AV without the jacket - the guy with the pumpkin head - is Tony Torres, he works for Victor Griego at DSO. Isn't the guy with the blue shirt former South Gate City Councilman Hector de la Torre?

July 17, 2007 12:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:22,

RAT #1 VILLAR
RAT #2 ?

July 17, 2007 12:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:25 THANKS.

BTW, LA TIMES is working overtime.

July 17, 2007 12:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:24

That's typical L.A. Times "objective" reporting that has been going on since he waws Speaker. Thaty's one of the perks of having Parke Skelton as your consultant. He promises Times reporters - like Matea Gold - the inside scopp in exchange for fluff stories - it doesn't matter that the lies put forth destory people and organizations. In essence, Parke is just acting like Antonio's pimp, isn't that rigth Mirthala?

July 17, 2007 12:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Victor Griego?
Jennie Carreon Lacey?

July 17, 2007 12:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah Victor Griego, the guy pushing the Vernon Power Plant - damn the community.

Victor used to be Richard Alatorre's former chief of staff. Richard is working on this Vernon Power plant thing also. Don't you think Antonio or Parke are getting a piece of this action?

July 17, 2007 12:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Didn't Cindy Montanez get appointed to the Board of Public Works? That's a $120,000 a year position and she doesn't even have a college degree! But she has great DSL's!

No wonder city hall is now known as GED Central.

July 17, 2007 12:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

David Zahniser, now of the L.A. Times, should pick up this story on hidden e-mails and records. If he doesn't we all know that he sold out. Expect the L.A. Weekly to run with this.

July 17, 2007 12:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

victor griego
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:6yWpI1Xoqei9BM:http://www.victorgriego.com

jennie carreon lacey
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:I_doBxk4HFpNkM:http://www.ucsc.edu/currents/00-01/art/serap.380.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:li5jZEYCGRCpWM:http://www.environmentcalifornia

July 17, 2007 12:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmmm.

"It’s also “huge,” he says, that he sits on the Princeton Board of Trustees, the first and only Latino to do so. He frequently pointsthis out. He also admits that many of his achievements in L.A. politics have been due to his close relationship with MayorVillaraigosa. Then, without being asked about the topic, Huizar brings up the possibility that he could one day succeed hismentor. “People say, ‘Oh you want to be mayor,’ but I’m happy doing what I do now. I’m very happy being a City Councilmember,” Huizar insists. “I’ve been dreaming about this since I was a kid. I used to ask myself, why can’t Boyle Heights havethe parks, all the infrastructure. Now I can do something about that.”The whole time, Huizar is fiddling with his cell phone, tearing up a napkin, looking down. Even he seems to hardly believe himself."

July 17, 2007 12:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How ironic that in 1994 Victor Griego was crying all over the eastside because Antonio picked Parke SKelton as his consultant instead of Victor Griego, the most experienced Latino consultant in the eastside. This incident, BTW, was the premise for Ricardo Torres' "white consultant" piece that he put out in 2003.

Then Nick Pacheco hired Victor Griego to be his consultant in 1999 only to have Victor run against him. The whole eastside political establishment went on to support backstabbing Griego, but then Nick beat him. This was Miguel Contreras first "labor" loss and essentially spelled the end of Nick's career along with the end of progressive, grass root activism in the eastside.

July 17, 2007 12:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Notable Latino electeds without a college degree:
Richard Polanco
Gloria Molina
Larry Gonzalez (school board!)
Marty Martinez
Cindy Montanez (but her sister has a degree)


If you lack the discipline to finish school, you have no discipline to be a leader.

July 17, 2007 12:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LOL. While the other children played baseball and hopscotch, young Huizar pondered the dismal state of Boyle Heights infrastructure.

July 17, 2007 12:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:58: You want the Council to name Rocky as the Mayor's attorney? Nice try, ha, ha... Who are you working for, anyway? Obviously, some other candidate waiting in the wings for their moment, hastened by Rocky.

July 17, 2007 12:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:45

Parke and the money behind Antonio knew that he was a liability. Huizar was chosen to be the back up in case anything went wrong. Well, somehting is going wrong. But Huizar, like Antonio, hasn't done anything in the eastside. No accomplishment to speak of but plenty of money and the consultant to sell his story. Was Huizar's dad also an alcoholic wife beater? Better get working on that story Parke.

July 17, 2007 12:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a shock. Cindy has 0 degree and I figured she did. Why run for this office with no degree. My vote goes to a college grad.

July 17, 2007 12:50 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

AND NOW...IF I MAY DISRUPT THIS THREAD FOR SOME CITY BUSINESS...

IN CASE THE HUGE WAVE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIDN'T MAKE IT TO YOUR SHORE:

PUBLIC NOTICE:

The Office of Neighborhood and Community Services will hold a community meeting to discuss completed, ongoing, and future projects spearheaded by the Office of Mayor Antonio R. Villaraigosa. The meeting will target key initiatives in the areas of public safety, education, transportation, economic development and housing.

The East Area Planning Meeting will be held on:
Wednesday, July 25
6 to 8 p.m.
Lincoln Heights Senior Citizen Center
2323 Workman Street
Los Angeles, CA 90031

The East Area Planning Region includes the communities of MacArthur Park, Pico-Union, Westlake, Boyle Heights, Lincoln Heights, El Sereno, Highland Park, Hermon, Cypress Park, Glassell Park, Atwater Village, Mt. Washington , and Eagle Rock.

I hope some mayor sam readers can show up with camcorders and post it on youtube and aks some good questions not about his personal life. (Like LAUSD, LIKE LAUSD!!!)

July 17, 2007 12:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma,

Stick to your own boring ass threads. Just screwing up the flow!

July 17, 2007 12:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

“There were days when I used to say, ‘It’s us versus the greater society.’ Today it’s Latinosrunning against Latinos. Now it isn’t as much about ethnicity as what you stand for,” saysAcevedo. “I think people are finding our politics are just as mainstream as anyone else’s.”And yet, says L.A. City Councilman José Huizar, things have progressed so smoothly thatLatino politicians and voters can get complacent about bigotry toward Mexicans in electionsor in daily life.“I think that we’re far from achieving the type of power we think we have,” Huizar insists. “It’s like, ‘Si se puede, y ya lo hicimos’(Yes we can, we already did it). But we haven’t even gotten there.”

I’m sitting with Huizar at another Starbucks, this one on the ground floor of the New Otani Hotel in Little Tokyo, near City Hall.Huizar is the most recent Mexican American Prince to reign in Council District 14, following Mayor Villaraigosa. He was born andraised in Boyle Heights and has returned to live there as an adult. He got his planning degree at Princeton, his law degree atUCLA, and his undergraduate degree at Berkeley, where he was active in student government.“We did some research, and I am the first Latino immigrant on the City Council,” says Huizar, who was born in Zacatecas. “Itencapsulates the growing Latino population in L.A. that someone like me” — his eyes flutter a bit — “can come to this country,and because of the educational opportunities, represent the community. It’s huge.”

July 17, 2007 12:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not so much naming Rocky the mayor's attorney - he already is, according to the charter. Did Hahn have his own attorney being paid for by city funds?

July 17, 2007 12:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is Thomas Saenz? Doesn't he sit on the L.A. County Board of Education? What is his background?

July 17, 2007 12:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

thomas saenz former MALDEF VP?

July 17, 2007 1:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

At 34, Thomas Saenz is fast earning a reputation as one of the foremost civil rights attorneys in California. He has battled the state over the anti-immigrant Proposition 187 and challenged the Los Angeles Unified School District earlier this year over its school construction policies.

In recognition of his impressive record of fighting for Latino civil rights, Saenz last month received the Jack Berman Award of Achievement for Distinguished Service to the Profession and the Public. The award, given by the California Young Law-yers Association, honors the memory of a young pro bono attorney who was slain in the 101 California St. massacre in San Francisco and recognizes service to the legal profession and the public and dedication to issues of concern to attorneys.

A graduate of Yale University and Yale Law School, Saenz is regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) in Los Angeles. He manages the office, which serves southern California, Nevada and Arizona, is its lead counsel in numerous federal court cases, and oversees a wide variety of litigation, appeals, consent decree monitoring, and public policy analysis in areas such as education, employment and immigrants’ rights.

Last year, MALDEF was instrumental in blocking the implementation of Prop. 187; when Saenz decided to cross-appeal the state’s desire to send the case to mediation, Gov. Davis dismissed the appeal. Prop. 187, approved by the voters in 1994, called for barring illegal immigrants from government services, including public education, welfare and non-emergency health care. Most of the major provisions of the measure were overturned by a federal district court judge, but the ruling was appealed by former Gov. Pete Wilson. Wilson left office before the case was argued, and Davis asked the court to submit the case to mediation.

This year, Saenz assisted in the filing of a major lawsuit to challenge the lack of school construction in overcrowded minority districts in urban Los Angeles. His strategy is to target the system under which bond monies are distributed on a first come, first serve basis rather than by need. “Thousands of Californians are both directly and indirectly affected by Tom’s work,” says Antonia Hernandez, MALDEF’s president and general counsel. “In particular, innumerable individuals are protected by the civil rights enforced through his litigation.”

In addition to his professional activities, Saenz is involved in numerous community groups, including the National Conference for Community and Justice and Califor-nia LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens).

July 17, 2007 1:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The real Thomas Saenz

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Aq8fi1sFr4bqpM:http://www.fulldisclosure.net/news/uploaded_images/Program_470_md-733499.jpg

July 17, 2007 1:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

www.tonyvillar.com

July 17, 2007 1:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So Thomas Saenz is to Villaraigosa what Alberto Gonzalez is to W. Bush. Kept W out of trouble and then he gets his reward.

Look for a a serikous fight - and plenty of press coverage - for those records that he is withholding.

July 17, 2007 1:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:45: Well, after all, JOse went from School Board member (who?) to CM to wannabe-Mayor...duh, yah, he's going to be wondering about a "meteoric ascent." And he's young.

BUT, Jose, think about it: can you actually deliver MORE than the Mayor we have now? Cuz he did set the barre very high.

July 17, 2007 1:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JAY LENO last nite:

"Wow, the weather has been so hot in L.A....the Mayor is having an affair with Ann Coulter...just so he can cool off!"

"What do the Mayor of L.A. and President Bush have in common? Neither one wants to pull out!"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

July 17, 2007 5:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

evDid you know....

Tony Villar has chosen NOT to fly the American flag in front of the Getty House! All of the 'official' photos of the mayor's residence show TWO American flags flying in front of the Getty House.

My sister-in-law lives one block away from Getty on Irving and she checks for the flag every day...there is NO flag!

We MUST get every Mexican out of our local government! Tony Villar is an avowed Mechista and he spends more time on TELEMUNDO than anyone.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MAYOR WHO PREFERRED THE SPANISH TV STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS LIKE LA OPINION???? AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MAYOR WHO SLEPT WITH A TV ANCHOR WHO JUS HAPPENED TO WORK FOR THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT????

This guy is anti-American!!!!! And so are his cronies!!!!

July 17, 2007 6:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We MUST get every Mexican out of our local government! Tony Villar is an avowed Mechista and he spends more time on TELEMUNDO than anyone.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MAYOR WHO PREFERRED THE SPANISH TV STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS LIKE LA OPINION???? AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MAYOR WHO SLEPT WITH A TV ANCHOR WHO JUS HAPPENED TO WORK FOR THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT????

This guy is anti-American!!!!! And so are his cronies!!!!

July 17, 2007 6:17 AM
============================

DOUBLE AMEN TO THAT!!

July 17, 2007 7:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you missed Ch 4 last night, here is the transcript:

http://www.knbc.com/news/
13690525/detail.html?dl=mainclick

and here is the video:

http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=129616

July 17, 2007 7:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"There is a credibility problem"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

"Mayor and his staff are stonewalling..."

DUH!!!


"47,000 MESSAGES or kilobytes..."

"Mayor doesn't email" ... "... may be things he DOESN'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW..."

Time for the whole corrupt, rotten enchilada to be exposed and ALL of them ... the entire gang ... elected or appointed or hired ... to be KICKED OUT!

July 17, 2007 7:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Parke, are those transparent stones that the mayor and his staff are stonewalling with?

And there is so much more -

A MAN OF LITTLE INTEGRITY AND EVEN LESS CHARACTER

July 17, 2007 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Teresa Duarte and Alicia Corona, Are you shame of yourself, your action speak louder. Your must have a sour marriage, since you like to ruin happy married couple. Your ruin Eddie boy marriage. Your ruin Antonio Villa marriage. You ruin Nick marriage, how many more marriage you going to ruin next Puta? I guess since you and your little sister Teresa are both puta you don't care! Putas did Coria introduce to you all his friends from White Memorial yet? by now you should have given more than half of the presentation to all the professional business people at the hospital? Di you give Coria a % of what you make? if not you should? How many more people you are going to ruin before you stop? You Teresa and Alicia should be shame for going after only married men, just to get a piece to get ahead. If you called your self professional businesswoman, you sure don't act like it,you act as a puta. Alicia go to school to learn how to Act like a professional businesswoman. For once dress professional, don't dress like a whore, but if you want to dress like a whore you alway be a puta. Please Teresa wear undergarment you to Alicia. Alicia you stated that you worked to get to where you are now? Well you need to change your styles. Just maybe the community will give respect. Did you do Steve Yet? Are running to your printer Ray to asked for advised? Why don't go back to the valley stay away from LA. Teresa and you should go back to school. you both should go back to mexico. You are giving the Latina community a back reputation.

July 17, 2007 7:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tomas Saenz, you have so much more credibility than Antonio or anyone else on his staff, why subject your brilliant career and future with this bozo? You are a man of honor - if a lawyer can be called such - and now you will be remembered for protecting this scumbag. What a shame!

July 17, 2007 7:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA Mayor Allegations
Ana Garcia Reports
Mayor Villaraigosa's affair with a TV reporter raise questions about his conduct at City Hall.

http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=129616

July 17, 2007 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ivy Gate's real -- it's just snarky.

July 17, 2007 7:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

EDDIE BOY( ED REYES} YOUR NEXT,WHY DID YOU ONLY HELP ALICE CORONA WITH ALL THAT MONEY ? YOU COULD OF HELPED OTHER LOCAL BUSSINES? HOW COME? ALICE YOU HAVE A BAD NAME IN LINCOLN HEIGHTS DON'T BUILD THE BUILDING GET OUT ,THIS IS THE BEGINING OF WHAT IS YET TO COME ABOUT YOUR MANY AFFAIRS WITH LOCAL BUSSINES PEOPLE AND POLITICIANS AND YOUR SHADINESS!

July 17, 2007 8:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmm. No flag?

Villaraigosa-Mecha lovin' asshole.

July 17, 2007 8:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mecha Whores
Antonio Villaraigosa
Gil Cedillo
Ed Reyes
Xavier Becerra
Fabian Nunez
Kevin Leon

They hide under the Democratic Party but are true reds.

July 17, 2007 8:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony Villar was among the Brown Berets arrested in Catalina years ago when the Berets briefly took over the island. He was arrested and bailed out by the wife of a Superior Court judge.

July 17, 2007 8:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:44

Phony Villar was not one of those Brown Berets - he never had big enough balls to join them. He did, however, do a lot of agitating. Just like his street days, Phony would start a fight with his mouth and then run away, leaving the big guys to do the fighting.

The organzation he was involved with was Sin Fornteras "No Borders". Look it up.

July 17, 2007 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the hell happened to One America. The USA.

We have idiots who won't say the flag salute and still they want financial aid.

Hypocrites.

July 17, 2007 9:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Under California's Public Records Act, KNBC reporter Ana Garcia asked the mayor to show the station his e-mails and his official calendar.

http://www.knbc.com/politics/13690525/detail.html?rss=la&psp=news

July 17, 2007 9:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Curious! Can anyone provide any background/details on these Alice/Teresa characters that keep getting mentioned?

From all the random posts, I gather they are some kind of east side whores? Alice is building something - is it a whorehouse? Ed Reyes has steered a lot of money her way. They are also somehow linked to Villar and his gang ... have they also been "girlfriends" of theirs or just provided "girlfriends" TO them?

If that is about correct, then I am sure they probably do have inside info the gang doesn't want to leak out.

Can anyone enlighten AND elaborate details on this?

July 17, 2007 9:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How long can the Mecha Guy stonewall on the emails and calendar????

He's probably got his druglords from McArthur Park re-doing his calendar and going over his hard drive. He can't forge his blackberry, though....47,000 kilobytes???? WOW!!!!

Paul Moyer won't let this one go!!!

Buh-bye....Asshole!

July 17, 2007 9:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey geniuses 47,000 kilobytes doesn't mean jack shit.

July 17, 2007 9:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He once said he doesn't use a computer much at all. HE prefers to phone people. Maybe he was texting Mirthala? You can choose to save or delete your test messages. I'm sure the Mayor just deleted them. The only way anyone can get public info act requests from the City is by suing them. I had to show them a completed motion to compel to get my first request. They've just stonewalled me on my last requests. The fine is $100 a day. Is there an attorney out there who'd like to help me collect this fine? I'll give you 33%. I made three requests that haven't been answered in 1.5 years. That's $164,250. I have all documentation. I even have the head of the department telling the city attorney to just give me the documents.

July 17, 2007 9:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villarsalinas in NYC
NBC 4 led tonight's late newscast with a five-minute piece by Ana Garcia reporting that Mirthala Salinas got the only one-on-one interview with Mayor Villaraigosa during a trip to New York in March 2006. She was there reporting for Telemundo 52, apparently after their affair had begun. Garcia also said the November 2005 evening when Villaraigosa was famously spotted with a bottle of wine at her Valley apartment was the same night of his controversial flight to the Rosa Parks funeral on the Ameriquest corporate jet. According to Garcia, he had been at the Telemundo studios in Burbank until 6:15 pm, then was with Salinas until catching the flight — undercutting his claim that taking a donor's jet was necessary because of timing. (The mayor later reimbursed Ameriquest, a campaign contributor and his former employer, for the cost of a commercial flight, but not the company's true cost of providing the plane.) In the Channel 4 piece, Garcia said the mayor's office first refused a demand for all of his emails to staff, but later clarified that he text messages but only receives email on his Blackberry.

Jay Leno's monologue: "It was so hot today that Antonio Villaraigosa had an affair with Ann Coulter just to cool off."

July 17, 2007 10:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FullosseousFlap’s Dental Blog
FullosseousFlap’s Comments on the Dental World and More
July 17, 2007

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa Watch: KNBC Television Requests Mayor’s E-mails and Calendar

http://flapsblog.com/?p=5284

July 17, 2007 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Check out ERS News - Mayor and "girlfriend" have met secretly since the scandal broke - email THAT piece to all the NBC/UNI/TELEMUNDO execs and ask when they are going to dump this integrity-starved "tart" (ain't that a great euphemism??)

July 17, 2007 10:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Istapundit.com
July 17, 2007
MICKEY KAUS: Is CNN blowing the YouTube debate?

Plus, bloggers keep scooping the Los Angeles Times on the Villaraigosa scandal.

http://instapundit.com/archives2/007245.php

July 17, 2007 11:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This was posted on another thread:

"When Corina Villaragosa was being treated for breast cancer I am positive her doctor told her family, especially her husband, that STRESS could hurt her...obviously Antonio didn't listen or care...he turned around and had an affair with his friends wife.
Even in a life or death situation Antonio thought of himself, not his family, and truly not his wife at a time in her life she truly needed him. So what makes anyone of us who live in LA think he's thinking about us?

July 16, 2007 11:43 PM"

Just some clarification. Corina was undergoing treatment for thyroid cancer, not breast cancer. And when Antonio first approached Pat Bond (Gloria Molina's late consultant) about being his consultant, she denied the request. Pat Bond didn't take the job because she told Antonio that cancer affects the whole family, not just one person and that a campaign would bring undue stress that will hurt with the recovery process. Pat should have known, she had been suffering from breast cancer and eventually succumbed to the illness.

But this didn't stop Antonio. He thought only of himself, as usual, and went on with the campaign and subsequent affiar with his law school buddie's wife - his comadre. Almost like having an affiar with a relative. Think Corina was exposed to any undue stress? Parke Skelton was more than willing to do the dirty deed and walla - we have Antonio the mayor now. Just an insight into the type of scumbag this asshole really is. Tonito, do you know this story?

July 17, 2007 12:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Curious! Can anyone provide any background/details on these Alice/Teresa characters that keep getting mentioned?

From all the random posts, I gather they are some kind of east side whores? Alice is building something - is it a whorehouse? Ed Reyes has steered a lot of money her way. They are also somehow linked to Villar and his gang ... have they also been "girlfriends" of theirs or just provided "girlfriends" TO them?

If that is about correct, then I am sure they probably do have inside info the gang doesn't want to leak out.

Can anyone enlighten AND elaborate details on this?

July 17, 2007 9:16 AM

OKAY I POST AGAIN ... I AM DETERMINED TO FIND OUT!!

GIVE ME WHAT I WANT AND I WILL GO AWAY!!

July 17, 2007 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:35 I'm absolutely determined to tell you to SHUT UP!

The obvious cannot be hidden. You are the same poster who posts and questions. GET A LIFE.

July 17, 2007 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The obvious cannot be hidden. You are the same poster who posts and questions. GET A LIFE.

July 17, 2007 12:51 PM

Maybe it is obvious to people on the east side, but not to everybody - and I do not "post and question" ... whatever THAT means! And I'm not the only person who has posted here asking WHO these two are - their names keep coming up over and over - and NOT from ME

July 17, 2007 12:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:02: If Villar was so selfish, as you see it, for running for office even while he wife was battling cancer, then what about Edwards? His wife is very visibly battling cancer, racking up a hectic schedule. People seem to be supportive, because it is her apparently sincere decision that he be able to get his message out there.

Corina admitted she never had a taste for the political life, being a political wife, and although she turned up for her husband now and then, and make a speech now and then, certainly didn't relish the "job" of political wife or believe in her husband the way Elizabeth does. So it's really a personal decision. Did Corina ask Villar not to campaign, or did she want him to go on anyway? And shouldn't he make up his own mind, too? It's always personal and sad when there is an illness like cancer, but if a person like Villar or Edwards feels it's his life mission to go "out" there, is staying home necessarily the right thing to do? Would such a frustrated person really be the emotional anchor his wife needs?

There are too many variables on both sides of that failed marriage to keep harping on the simplistic, "he left his wife."

July 17, 2007 1:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, we know that Alicia Corina and Teresa Duarte are the biggest WHORE in Lincoln Heights. That they came from mexico and they have a sweetshop that hired nothing but illegal and now she trying to make big by opening an entertaiment center on north braodway by lincoln height school. She want to sell liquor to minor and have a whore house. She does not associate with women, she only deal with powerful people who can help her. Once they help her accomplshed what she want, she dump them like a hot potato. She will only keep your if you can give her money. Teresa and Alicia get you hook by her new make over plastic face and body? They way she hook the mem by given her little presentation to you and you will fall flat on your face. You tell me what that a 60 year old printer has in coment with Alicia the Puta? I can bet you 1 million dollars that all this men wife don't know what their husband. These men are telling their wife they are going to an event, yah right! The worse thing is that their wife believe what they them?

July 17, 2007 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:59

I'm no fan of John Edwards, he looks like a prick just like Antonio and there's probably some truth to those Ann Coulter rumors. But Antonio campaigned as a family man while boinking his comadre and leaving his wife to fend for herself while he went forth with his personal agenda. Until death do us part, in sickness an din health - if he really were a man and had an ounce of integrity, he would have waited until his wife recuperated, which whe did. What's two years? But that didn't fit into Parke's grand plan of Latino manipulation in the eastside.

The best scenario would have been for Antonio never to get married - he acted like he wasn't anyway - and nobody would be questioning anything about his morals now. But he and Parke were so accustomed to lying, it was just second nature.

July 17, 2007 3:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:58 The scorned housewife.

July 17, 2007 3:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:58 The scorned housewife.

July 17, 2007 3:55 PM
===========================

Wrong, of course - I am 12:58, am not married and, judging from previous posts and the reply from 2:08 (thank you for replying) - I wouldn't be willing to stay long in the same room with Alice and Teresa for fear of contagion.

However, I think 12:51 and 3:55 are HIGHLY suspect! IS THAT YOU ALICE?? IS THAT YOU TERESA???

July 17, 2007 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

However, I think 12:51 and 3:55 are HIGHLY suspect! IS THAT YOU ALICE?? IS THAT YOU TERESA???

Obsessed, aren't we?

July 17, 2007 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Do Alicia and Teresa have a candy shop ("sweetshop") or sweatshop? Doesn't most everyone in Boyle and Lincoln Heights hire illegal waiters and such? What's an "entertainment building?" At least, the official part? Are these two sisters married?

Who's the poster who keeps writing about them? Did they get your husband, or are you afraid they will?

July 17, 2007 8:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:12 I think Alice and Teresa are the local color that have some connection to all the local politicians ... not sure, but they do seem to keep cropping up!

July 17, 2007 8:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who's the Coria who introduced Alicia and Teresa to everyone at White Memorial Hospital? Is that run by a local Mexican mafia, or something? And what kinds of presentations are they making, anyway? Is it for their bakery/dessert shop, or some new building or what? And how does the poster know they don't wear underwear? Do they really dress like putas, or is everyone just jealous? I'm getting curious about these two, if only I could even find Lincoln Heights, let alone their "entertainment" center. Is it even open for business yet?

July 17, 2007 10:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When Alicia and Teresa "give their presentation, you will fall flat on your face." Why? Are they that good (at presentations) or are there other innuendos? And what are they building, with favors from all over their part of town? Are they pretty?

July 17, 2007 11:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Hahn didn't need an attorney. He was one, having passed the bar on his first try. Hahn turned to the City Attorney's Office for legal opinions.Hahn also turned over all his calendars, documents and e-mails. Bradley, Riordan and now Antonio created the fiction of "Mayor's Counsel" ignoring the city charter. The opinions of those "counsels" have no legal significance whatsoever.

July 17, 2007 11:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:32: so you tell us that Hahn was a good student, especially when it comes to memorizing stuff by rote, but had the spine and personality of a wet noodle, and, despite following "the rules" as he saw them, had zero vision or ability to inspire people.

MENSA is littered with these people. The so-called "high IQ society" is so dull I went to a couple of meetings, but a bunch of nerds and policy wonks trying to "sound smart" is a huge turn-off.

Not that I discount brains, not at all, but if you can combine that with charm and personality, so much the better.

And a "good story" helps: AV's up- from the street stuff is hard for us wasps to compete with. Besides, we're the real minority in town: where is our "demographic?" There are smart "anglos" who are Jewish, but the "Anglo-Saxon Protestants" mostly left long ago, churches turned into synagogues, especially Persian-Jewish ones, in Bev Hills, Westwood, etc. The Catholic churches are largely Latino. The "whitebread" white liberal WASPS just don't make up a significant enough group, have to form alliances. Which Hahn couldn't do once his dad's African-American base started to be eclipsed by the Latinos.

And go ahead, tell me I'm Dorothy, but AV really seemed to be trying to bridge all the groups; yes, he got elected by "his" Latinos, but once in office, branched out out of necessity.

July 18, 2007 1:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:10 AM

Come out of the stupor they have induced in you. "Trying to bridge the groups"?!?!? Villar and his mexican crony politicians, appointees, et al are simply and exclusively communists who are all about "reconquista". They are enemy agents of Mexico and, on the larger scale, the globalists - the same who control most of your politicians in Washington (do Senate Amnesty Bill, SPP, North American Union, NAFTA Super Highway, inevitable war with Iran ring any bells with you?) Does "The Lobby" have any meaning for you? If not, it is time to start doing your homework - away from all forms of CONTROLLED media... any other dog and pony shows that may be presented to you are simply part of the program intended to keep you in your stupor. The alarm is going off ... time to WAKE UP!!

July 18, 2007 8:11 AM  

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