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Monday, July 16, 2007

Do you feel safer?

Boy, I sure do! Thanks to the leadership of Councilmember Bernard Parks and courageous vote of City Council, Angelenos can now sleep a little better.

While most of L.A. was consumed with Mayor Villaraigosa’s woman woes, Council, on July 6th, approved Parks’ ordinance requiring firearms dealers to post the following warning message (in block letters, not less than one inch in height) in their places of business—and on the firearms bills of sale:

Warning: The City of Los Angeles has determined that guns in the home are much more likely to kill or injure a household member than to protect against an attacker. It is safest not to keep a gun in the home. If a gun is kept in the home, it should be kept unloaded and securely locked and ammunition should be locked separately.

For a little perspective, Parks’ warning sign ordinance is a near-carbon copy of AB 944, which failed to pass the State Assembly in 2005.

I have a few questions:

First, what will this cost to implement?

Second, what steps did Chief Parks take to reduce stress and boost morale in his police department? After all, for all the studies of questionable relevance cited by Parks in support of protecting us from ourselves with another warning label, David Codrea pointed out on his blog back in February that police officers have significantly higher suicide rates than the general public.

Finally, how did we ever survive without all of these important notices?

Happy Monday everyone, and stay safe out there!

P.S. You can read the original motion here.

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27 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What pseudo-science. How do you prove a negative? There are certain areas in LA where criminals know that if they do a hot burg or a home invasion they will be shot dead. Put that in the statistics.

July 16, 2007 5:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AW, Parks doesn't seem to understand that if a home invasion occurs, the perpetrators are NOT going to delay their robbery, murder, or other criminal activities inside said home if the owner/tenant yells that he needs time to load his firearm so he can protect himself from them.

This is just another example of a mindless law, similar to the City ordinance which bans the throwing of snuff (tobacco) out of hotel rooms.

July 16, 2007 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've noticed that Main Street is one-way. I've also noticed a plethora of wrong-way drivers on Main Street, and every so often a wrong-way motorist is nabbed by a police officer.

If Council wanted to do something extemely effective, perhaps they should order that "Do Not Enter Wrong Way" signs be posted at every Main Street intersection, and directional arrows be painted upon the pavement.

If the current situation is allowed to continue, it will be only a matter of time before a pedestrian in a crosswalk gets killed by a wrong-way driver, especially next to City Hall!

July 16, 2007 5:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can't throw snuff out of a hotel room window? What are we coming to?

July 16, 2007 5:57 PM  

Blogger solomon said:

JS,

Excellent point.

The original motion states the following as part of its supporting argument...

"The 2005 Federal Bureau of Investigation's Uniform Crime Report shows there were 143 justifiable homicides committed with the use of a firearm, compared with 10,100 murders committed with a firearm."

...but, the approved verbiage instructs you to lock your unloaded firearm and ammunition separately.

Should we conclude that Parks wants to reduce that justifiable number to zero? I'm not following the logic.

July 16, 2007 5:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This sort of stuff leaves you speechless. How do you address things this ridiculous? I suppose if you are collecting a Council salary, you have to look like you are doing SOMETHING!

If he wants a useful label, how about tattooing, in 1" or larger red capital letters, "BEWARE! VIOLENT PERVERT!" on the forehead of every convicted sex offender and pedophile? If this twisted society is going to continue allowing them to continue breathing, then this is at least a warning label that would be of some value!

July 16, 2007 5:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

John & Ken were just talking about this blog and referred to Mayor Sam as being "way out there" and Zuma as being an "entertaining gadfly"

July 16, 2007 6:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They called the blog "incendiary" and I'm pretty sure the "way out there" remark was directed at Zuma.

This from a couple of guys who continue to broadcast Sabrina Kay's name out to a million listeners as Villar's girlfriend.

Oh. . . and will someone please tell them the Villar Jr. story was mostly false?

July 16, 2007 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Actually, who is the Mayor's current girlfriend? The professional Telemundo reporter is history, it seems.

July 16, 2007 7:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why should John & Ken care if a story is false? If it fills up airtime and keeps them mildly entertained, then they're all for it. Besides, whenever someone hits them with "that's not news" or accusations of faulty journalism, their catchall is "we're entertainers, not newsmen." Life is so much easier then.

Ever hear them take calls with opposing viewpoints? They do so only when they can control the conversation and jeer at the caller.

Swell guys, those two.

July 16, 2007 7:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Speaking of noxious odors, don't sit near the speakers' stand if ZD is speaking!

Phew, that boy needs to learn to bathe.

July 16, 2007 7:19 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

Let's have some fun with this.

THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS DETERMINED: ________________.

July 16, 2007 7:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

..that frijoles cause gas.

Therefore we need a sign posted on every taco truck and mexican food restaurant in one inch high bold letters that states: Methane gas is a highly combustible substance and is more likely to burn on the way out than it did in producing it.

July 16, 2007 7:48 PM  

Blogger solomon said:

THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS DETERMINED THAT SOMETIMES "NO GUNS" DOES NOT MEAN "NO GUNS."

July 16, 2007 7:48 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

...that council members are worth their weight in rock salt.

July 16, 2007 7:49 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

...that smoking crack does not lend itself to substantive legislation.

July 16, 2007 7:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

@6:39
John & Ken think Zuma Dog is entertaining? They must lead dull and boring lives.

July 16, 2007 8:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Haven't you heard of the kids who get hold of a loaded gun and shoot someone or themselves "by accident?" Unless you lock them away so that YOU can't get to them easily, boys will do anything in their power to get to anything dangerous in the house. They are fascinated by guns and knives and bombs at a certain phase...some never grow up. Would Phil Spector had shot the actress, or she herself -- whatever -- if they had to go get a bullet?

Only exception: in case of real terrorism or invasion, as Founding Fathers intended. It's an emergency measure to mount a "citizens army."

During the riots of '92, neighbors with guns mannned the barricades... Never knew there were so many guns.
Wouldn't have been necessary if the cops had been doing it.

July 16, 2007 9:24 PM  

Blogger solomon said:

9:24, I appreciate the points you've raised.

With home invasions relatively rare, I've always felt that the most compelling reason to own a firearm in Southern California is earthquakes.

FEMA tells us we should prepare to fend for ourselves for 72 hours. Judging by FEMA's performance during Hurricane Katrina (and yes, I know others were to blame as well), we should realistically prepare to be stranded for longer periods of time.

Without law and order, society breaks down fast and in desperate situations, the most defenseless will always become the first victims.

July 16, 2007 9:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lock up the City Council so ZD can't get to them; keep us safe.

July 16, 2007 9:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That guy on the warning sign looks just like Eric Garcetti!

July 16, 2007 9:41 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

Every year tens of thousands of children are killed accidentally because they could not keep their hands off of their parents' cars.

Guns do kill people. In fact, guns kill innocent people.

But not nearly as many innocent people as cars; or alcohol. For that matter, high school sports, prescription medicine, surgery, and backyard pools kill thousands of people annually. Hundreds of thousands are maimed or injured.

Between the two groups, firearms and the latter, only one has a designated protected status by the framers of our constitution.

Argue all you want that guns are inherently unsafe. But you run square up against the fact that LIFE IS INHERENTLY UNSAFE.

Are you are willing to write off the SECOND amendment in hopes that you might FEEL safer? If so, you do not deserve the protections afforded us by the other 26.

The sure cure for anti-gun activism is having your life saved by the presence of a firearm.

I've known many people killed by firearms on the job or by acts of violence. I've known many more saved/protected by firearms at home and work.

I have never known anyone injured or killed by accidental gun shot.

Accidental car collisions are another story.

Pick your poison. Just leave my rights alone.

July 16, 2007 10:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

race card: Moron.

Cbildless moron.

Best argument for gun control: morons

July 16, 2007 11:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boy, that "race card" sure makes some great points!

Since, uh, "LIFE IS INHERENTLY UNSAFE," we should probably just get rid of traffic lights and food safety laws too. Safety belts are kind of a pain with all that "click on, click off" stuff -- let's get rid of those also. In race card's world, everybody should shut up, take their chances and get the hell out of his/her way.

A gun in the hand of any one man has rarely solved anything. Many have tried, but modern history is far more inclined to remember a true hero as a person who brings about change without a firearm (Ghandi, MLK, u name 'em) and look upon the picture of the guy with a gun as a lunatic or assassin.

A gun culture only fosters more guns and more fear.

July 17, 2007 9:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's go back to race card's post (7:45 pm):

THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS DETERMINED:

...that eating beans will increase greenhouse gas emissions.

...that graffiti is a protected art form.

...that the annual travel budget of the current occupant of the Office of the Mayor shall exceed 1,990% over the previous occupant.

...that the current salary of elected City officials is not nearly enough.

July 17, 2007 12:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I've known many people killed by firearms on the job or by acts of violence. I've known many more saved/protected by firearms at home and work."

Yipes, race card, from now on please feel free to use this blog to tell us when you're going to be somewhere so we call all make other plans!

July 17, 2007 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This should surprise anyone, just another dumb ass motion from the loser city council members. What a bunch of idiots@!$#@#%$%

July 17, 2007 4:47 PM  

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