Apple II: Update on Antonio, Jr. (Villaraigosa, Not Sabato)
We had a post earlier today where we reported on two blogs breaking the story that Antonio Villaraigosa, Jr. allegedly posted comments on the social networking site Facebook as to various freshman activities as he prepares to enter Princeton this fall. This involved under age binge drinking, an encounter with police officers and possibly producing fake identification.Since then photos of the event in question have surfaced - with Villaraigosa, Jr. - clearly in attendance. It also appears that alcoholic beverages were on hand and one shot shows the Mayor's son holding what probably is a beer or a malt beverage. If the postings are indeed penned by the younger Antonio, the group was reported to be consuming some of my favorite adult beverages.
Intitially some readers had the impression this party was claimed to be held at Princeton which led them to believe it was not true as Villaraigosa has yet to travel there to begin his studies. However it's my impression that he is saying the party was held in Southern California and that they had a bonfire. The only beach I am aware of in Los Angeles that has bonfire pits is Dockweiler Beach - within the city limits of Los Angeles (and we'll get to that in a moment) - the photos do look like Dockweiler, just immediately south of the runways at LAX.
In his alleged posting, Junior talks about an encounter with police who were "cool" meaning that the officers did not cite anyone for underage or public drinking. Are we to infer that LAPD officers whose boss reports to Junior's dad, looked the other way for the younger Villaraigosa?
There is also reference to someone who makes good "fakes," presumedly fradulent identification in order to enter bars or buy alcohol when you're under 21. This does not directly implicate the Mayor's son, but its troubling that he would brag about it.
Now why does this matter? The Mayor has asked us to vote for him (and I did) based on him being a "family man." This issue - as well as the affair he admitted to - speaks to his character and causes me as a constituent to have pause about his ability to make proper judgments, decisions with respect to whatever his values are. We have to hold our leaders accountable to the highest standards or society will not hold. It doesn't have to be religious right hard core crap but a basic sense of right and wrong, good vs. evil, etc. (and I am digressing too).
Junior isn't doing anything I didn't do when I was a freshman. I don't begrudge him having fun and enjoying being an adult. However when you are the mayor's son and you may be getting special favors from the police, then we have an issue.
So feel free to bash away on me dum dums. But remember - it was not me - but Antonio, Sr. and Antonio, Jr. who reportedly made the decisions they have made. We are just reporting them. I would much rather talk about eminent domain, transportation, shady corrupt government and all that.
Of course the sad thing is if I was doing that 400% of you that are here these days wouldn't be here.
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 7/11/2007 11:29:00 AM
74 Comments:
The beach in question is in Orange County, California. SoCal Tigers agreed to meet half way between LA and San Diego so they chose OC.
Antonio has been to Princeton in April for some pre-events. That is when he was partying with some Princeton students. He said he did more than just "pregame" partying, i.e. more than just drinking.
Ugh, Thanks Mayor Sam, Now i have to call zuma dogg to post more insane stuff to bury this post.
Mayor Sam,
Villaraigosa has been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow. A few Latino politicians are select people wo get special privileges or special favors from LAPD.
The fire was legal because it was in a pit. The only reason police would approach them is if they had open containers of alcohol which is illegal on the beach. That must have happened. Then maybe one of them flashed a fake ID to say he was over 21 and could have the alcohol. Maybe then he put it back into the cooler and the cops were okay with that.
I am sure Antonio said to the cop do you know who I am?
If it was Dockweiler you have to be out of there by 10PM so that's when the cops come out and roust you. They only arrest troublemakers and kids drinking.
It must kill Zuma dum Dogg that no one is read his posts and Mayor Sam getting all the hits.
Mayor Sam,
???Is that same Dockweiler as Dockweiler Mutt (MSSC Blogger)?
Damn! Villar Jr is not a KID! f'n idiot.
Villar Jr is 18
MEMO TO MY FELLOW "DUMDUMS",
I am torn between saying "STOP!!" or using an analogy base upon a movie "KID VILLAR" will surely see in college, "ANIMAL HOUSE", the little "DEVIL" on "PINTO RED SPOT" shoulder's says "BLOG, BLOG HIS BRAINS OUT!!".
That said, these pictures show the sad price of unmitigated ambitions. SCREW YOUR WIFE! HELL WITH YOUR KIDS!! FABIAN, GIVE ME SOME SLOPPY THIRDS!!! BTW, does the "TELEBIMBO" still have a job ??
Can't wait till the "HOLIER THAN THOU TWINS OF JOURNALISM", Tim Rutten and the "SCORNED WESTSIDE BLOGGER, opine on this issue.
I agree, Mayor Sam - Villar is disgusting and his kid is boring and predictable ... but if continuing to banter all this about will keep it all alive and will encourage revelations of new information that will help to bring down Villar and his gang, then bring it on! "Paris Hilton" the whole bunch till we turn purple if it will serve the greater good!!
Don't forget
CELINE CORDER, MAYOR VILLAR'S HOOMELAND SECURITEE APPOINTEE (JIMMY BLACKAMAN'S GIRLFRIEND) IS A RISK TO NATIONAL SECURITY.
MEMO ON THE "EDUCATION MAYOR"
Just a thought "DUMDUMS". With the Moyors cronies now in control of LAUSD. What will "HEAD MASTER ROSIE O'GARCIA" allow "MAYOR POLLOVILLAR" to do at the three high schools that he is to oversee ? If he can't oversee the behavior of his son. Then how can he be a "ROLE MODEL" for the students with the "CLUSTER OF CONTROL" ?
?????WTF???
Don't forget
CELINE CORDERO, MAYOR VILLAR'S HOMELAND SECURITY APPOINTEE (JIMMY BLACKAMAN'S SANCHO) IS A RISK TO NATIONAL SECURITY. NATIONAL SECURITY RISK.
CATHEDRAL DROPOUT
CORINA I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BEATINGS YOU ENDURED WHILE YOU WERE MARRIED TO THIS WIFE BEATER !
PLEASE WRITE THE BOOK!!!!!
Leave the kid alone. He will make plenty of mistakes, no need to pile his dad's shit on him. Tonito didn't hve a realy close realtionship with his dad anyway. Going back to the days when Antonio Sr. would leave him at those little league fields in South Pasadena and forcing other friends to clalim him. Antonio doen not know how to be a father, can't be a father if you don't see one growing up. Jr. will have enough trouble at Princeton making the grade. Those classes at Princeton aren't the same as the fluff courses he took at Loyola.
This kid is going to Princeton & not Cal State LA? What were his high school grades? Didn't his daddy get into UCLA by affirmative action.
Sorry but I thought the rumor about lil Jr. playing for the other team was true. As long as daddy is in office he's fair game just like Bush twins, Al Gore III and others. Wonder if Jr. needed the alcohol to help him get over the embarrassement Daddy has brought to the whole family. Antonio would be a snake if he kept his name. This could be AV again. Reports are saying another madam had his phone on her call list as well.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. David Vitter, R-La., apologized Monday night for "a very serious sin in my past" after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by the so-called "D.C. Madam." Vitter's spokesman, Joel Digrado, confirmed the statement in an e-mail sent to The Associated Press
Like the last writer, I say let the kid make his own mistakes and learn from them. He's now in the public eye more than he ever expected when he posted that stuff. He can't stay in an Ivy and keep this up, freshmen always blow off steam at the beginning.
But by dragging this kid through two posts now, getting nowehre, admitting you're only doing it beause your blogers want dirt unmixed with anything of substance, you're showing how pathetically eager you are for attention, no matter how low you have to go.
The cute Asian girl in the photos will probably be the next Mrs. Villaraigosa.
Not junior's wife. The Mayor's.
I'm no apologist for the Mayor. His affairs and his job performance are legitimate issues that deserve public scrutiny.
However, this blog has really jumped the shark and general bounds of decency by covering his son, like this.
Don't you think the poor kid has been through enough with his parents' divorce splashed all over the news?
Now, he's got some blog run by a couple fat asses - who probably still pine about NOT being invited to parties like this in high school - posting photos and talking shit about him.
This is disgusting stuff. And you dumb fucks should be ashamed of yourselves.
Show a little decency, for goodness sake.
1:15 you read this blog article. That means you're interested. Don't get all high and mighty now, after you've read the article. If you don't like shit like this, don't read it. When I see Zuma Dogg's posts, I don't read them or comment on them because I'm not interested. Admit that you love watching train wrecks or don't watch.
I think Mayor Villaraigosa is an idiot. That being said, I don't see where his son becomes fair game. I think you guys go way over the edge in your disgust with the Mayor himself. What his son does is none of your business. All of us have one issue or another. Our issue is the Mayor. I would leave it at that.
MEMO TO THE "1:15 POSTER",
Like you to come across "HOLIER THAN THOU". When you run for office as a "LATINO MALE" who puts his family upfront for all to see. Then when you screw up, "FACE THE MUSIC". FOR EVERYONES ATTENTION, Tony Castro has a interesting post on his Website. Just posted today, castros gets some input and observation on tony villar's mental issues from Dr. Carole Lieberman.
Mayor Sam,
How come there's no blog report on our old friend Bill Fujioka? Geez, the guy retires from the City with a full pension now he's going onto LA County CEO to make $310,000. He was running the city the past few years. Congratulations should be in order. See http://www.labusinessjournal.com/article.asp
115 someone from the Mayor's team using the following spin techniques:
-Wax indignant
-Impugn motives
-Call the skeptics names
also had the kid not gone public mayor sam wouldn't even know what he was up to
you have no right to complain
tony and tonito had they behaved would not be on the bloggers radar
its their fault
Al Gore's son caught speeding with drugs, it's okay news. Antonio Villaraigosa's son caught underage drinking on a beach, acting like a dweeb, it's not okay news? He's an adult.
HA! TONY SR. THIS IS WHAT YOU GET AFTER MAK'N FUN OF GORE JR.
IN EAGLE ROCK, GORE JR WAS THE BUD OF YUR JOKES.
If Antonio had been a good father and home parenting and teaching his kids morals and values instead of screwing the reporter behind the whole familia's back then maybe Lil Jr. would make better choices. But with a dad who has a coke head convicted ex councilman as his advisor (Alatorre), a crook like Muerelo who was the highest campaign donator, the homeboys from Mexican Mafia etc. as buddies then the kid doesn't have a chance.
YES he is fair game because he put a MYSPACE webpage for the public to view. That tells me this kid doesn't want to be out of the lime light and hidden. Amazing what kids learn from their parents. What sad is I can imagine what Lil Jr. has seen and experienced with mom and dad fighting.
Anyone ever notice that our Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa fits the description of a sociopath to a "t?"
Antonio Villaraigosa is a sociopathÂ
What a meaningless post. I'm sure no one here ever drank underage, and if we did, our parents should be stoned. What a joke.
Hmmm. guy looks gay....
no,not villar jr.
the other guy
Photo
tonito borrachito
sara in heat
katie the rat
scott the perv
These idiot council members better not give one penny to LA Bridges. They've already had 3 guys who run the programs throughout the city arrested fo rFELONIES and thsse loser council people want to give them more money? Reporters here's your story of corruption right under your noses so stop being lazy and go after it. Homeboy should be at the top of your list to.
07-1959 Community Development Department (CDD) and City Administrative Officer
reports relative to the 2007-08 Los Angeles Bridges Program Funding and Appropriations in the amount of $13.4 million.
$13.4 MILLION TO A CORRUPT INEFFECTIVE GANG PROGRAM THAT GIVES POLITICAL DONATIONS TO POLITICANS. IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW!!!
Coffee break time in the Mayor's office, 2:47?
This one's a snowball heading downhill.
AV set the parameters when he allowed his handlers to try and recreate him as Mr. Squeaky Clean, father of the year, model for your kids, ready to run LAUSD. (See Gregory Rodrigues' latest LAT column)
One more real, certifiable bimbo outreak this summer, and AV will be lame-ducked at the beginning of the 2nd half of his first and only term, and his former fawning supporters around the City Council horseshoe and high profile departments will begin jockeying to see who rides in to replace him when the scramble begins in a year.
If Hahn can be dropped for letting an outside consultant overbill a city with a budget of megamillions for a few hundred thousand (all returned and then some, per Delgadillo), then bumbling and fumbling through a mayoral term like a testosterone-enraged frat boy at 54, while single-handedly reinforcing negative Latino stereotypes is a gift wrapped 2008 Xmas present for the next batch of wannabes.
3:01, 3:02
Council won't go after their friends.
Senior to Junior.
"Now listen, Tonito, when you go out there, don't do anything to embarrass me or give the family a bad na . . . Oh, hell, what am I talking about."
"NEVERMIND, just make sure you don't get arrested. Flash your REAL ID if it looks like things are going south, and STAY inside L.A. City limits. (Baca won't dare bend over for another jailed celebrity offspring quite so soon)."
12:07 PM aka Tonito Villaraigosa
Calm down! You learn so quick.
To 3:04pm
Mayor Villaraigosa a frat boy? To call him that is an insult to fraternity men.
Okay, so you wanna go back to talking about the daddy? Here's a rhetorical, maybe psychological question for you.
Why is AV, "Senior" never listed as "Sr" on any documentation, profiles, ballots, etc. . . anywhere? Junior is always listed as "Jr."
Average Joe Daddy-Man out there, who fathers a kid and proudly names him "Junior" almost immediately starts called himself "Sr." Everywhere.
It's a source of PRIDE! A sign of MATURITY and accepting RESPONSIBILITY for another. Hey, I got a "Jr." at home. I've reproduced. I'm training the next "me" in the world. I'm MORE of a MAN now, I'm a FATHER.
But not AV, the midget mayor. Can't find him identifying himself as a the "dad" of a kid bearing the same name. Not anywhere (Google it), for 18 years!
Why? (Ask AV that one Duke H. at the Times).
You really gotta ask? Same reason the wedding ring didn't "fit" well some months back.
CUTS OFF THE CIRCULATION.
No roaming lothario looking to score with the hotties wants them thinking of him as some other woman's husband, or even WORSE, some kid's "DAD" - a man with a teenage son at home, in some cases not much younger than them.
That's like some stripper giving you a lapdance while she whispers in your ear about how pissed she is at the grades her kids are getting in grammar school.
MAJOR TURNOFF. "No thanks, I won't have another, and don't expect a tip."
NOPE, proud pareny, family man, daddy . . . AV is none of the above. Don't you dare try and ball and chain his personal life like that.
Wife, children, happy home = more props than the Universal back lot.
Someone should nickname Park-que Skelton the "propmaster".
Some spinner's going to try and tell you that's just a "cultural" thing, 3:54. That'll be pure BS.
Underage college student scores beer? Stop the presses!!
Underage political offspring consumes alcohol illegally; local cops look the other way rather than risk their pension.
START 'EM UP AGAIN!
Clinton's impeachment was just about "sex."
Watergate was just a petty burglary.
Obeying the law is just from the great unwashed masses. The "elite" and powerful know which ones are really important to follow (screw the rest).
Young men are the product of their mothers, not their fathers. Remember, you are a Jew if your mother is a Jew. Knowing who your mother is gives you "roots". Without DNA, which is a 1990 invention, the Jews always depended on the women to know made them pregnant.
From a business standpoint, people will look negatively at anyone who hires Parke Skelton. We all know he's such a good defense lawyer.
From the get go, we know each client must have a chest full of BAD stories he/she must cover up.
Villaraigosa is Jewish?
A shander!
MS-R U dltng posts?
Fabian Nunez
Antonio Villaraigosa
names are in Madame DC's date book.
Ethical Debate Continues Over Jacobson's Departure
CHICAGO -- A television reporter videotaped wearing a swimsuit at the home of a man whose estranged wife is missing says she was fired because she's a woman who aggressively pursued a source on her day off.
But some say former WMAQ-TV reporter Amy Jacobson lost touch with ethical reality when she went swimming with her kids at Craig Stebic's suburban Plainfield home.
Jacobson's actions and subsequent dismissal ignited a debate Wednesday around newsrooms, Internet blogs and water coolers: Was she held to a different standard because of her gender? Isn't it a reporter's job to cultivate sources? Was her bikini the issue or that she had her two young sons in tow?
Telemundo affiliate KVEA in Los Angeles placed reporter-anchor Mirthala Salinas on leave after the revelation that she'd been having an affair with married Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. Salinas once covered the mayor as a political reporter for the station.
The only thing I would like to hear more about is if Jr. got special treatment for getting into Princeton. The rest of this discussion is stupid!
Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen (retches into bowl):
As you can see, I'm somewhat under the weather. (Smiles and looks rather green) I suspect it was the breakfast I ate while I was at a certain San Pedro eatery yesterday morning discussing the upcoming leadership conference that certain electeds will be attending. Had a blistering case of heartburn that turned into a bout of worshiping at the throne of Ralph (more retching and vomitus).
I can recall in my younger years at Oxford tipping more than a pint or two in an attempt to try to fit in and look cool, savvy (more vomitus) And like all young lads, I remember having to step outside and untie all the tie-ing on that I did in the pub. Some call it a right of passage.
But what I would be interested in finding out is WHO the individual was that procured the contraband and alcoholic beverages and gave them to this young lad. It's no secret that Pop used to give me a few quid to by some rubbers and pints now and again, and when I became of age Pop gave me quid for rubbers....he said that I could buy my own liquor at that point, savvy?
(Vomits and moans) I wonder if His Nibbs gave his son a few quid to purchase some potent potables or if he purchased the potables himself. Now THAT ought to be interesting, savvy?
YES!!
I agree with,
"The only thing I would like to hear more about is if Jr. got special treatment for getting into Princeton. The rest of this discussion is stupid!"
Did he use drugs?
What was his GPA?
Did daddy pull strings?
Did Uncle Huizar pull strings?
Who pays for tuition? Taxpayers?
5:26
Princeton, Schminceton. What some university does for high profiles' kids in so much drivel. No skin off my L.A.-based ass.
I don't care if they get free passes to the Grammys, either.
But, what LOCAL AUTHORITIES, who work for or with the Mayor, do to show favor to them is RAW MEAT. That's everyone's need-to-know.
Captain Sparrow, I've my own little rhyme for your bard. Perhaps he would like to add to my own first attempt?
I stood upon a City Hall stair,
And met a mayor who wasn't "there."
He couldn't decide if he should go or stay,
How I wish he would GO AWAY!
Excerpt from
PrincetonUniversity
Rights, Rules, Responsibilities,
Note: Villar Jr.'s Violation of rule #4 (not number 3(c) since he wasn't on campus)
When are Princeton University students in violation of the alcohol policy?
Students are in violation of the University alcohol policy under any or all of the following circumstances:
1. When the serving of alcohol encourages excessive drinking (e.g., drinking games, initiation activities, hazing) as it can lead to the endangerment of the individual served. When this is the case, those serving the alcohol are in violation of policy. This is an especially serious violation.
2. When the consumption of alcohol contributes to behavior that (a) intimidates, threatens, or injures others; or (b) leads to the destruction of property; or (c) infringes on the peace and privacy of others, students are in violation of policy.
3. Students are in violation of policy (a) when carrying or possessing an open container*of alcohol in or across common spaces (lounges, gamerooms, courtyards, dining areas, hallways, etc.); (b) when in possession of a keg and/or tap (unless permission is granted by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students); (c) when, under the age of 21, in possession of any container of alcohol in common spaces of the University; (d) when serving, providing, or making available alcohol to persons under the age of 21 in all locations; and (e) when procuring alcohol for persons under the age of 21 or by falsifying identification.
4. The preceding regulations apply to students both on and off the University campus, particularly in the local vicinity. Violations of local ordinances or State laws by students may also be grounds for University disciplinary action, regardless of where such violations occur, if they clearly violate University standards of conduct.
*Open container is defined as any container not sealed by the manufacturer.
WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE PICTURES. I WOULD LOVE TO SEND THEM OVER TO PRINCETON.
I feel sorry for Antonio Jr. Can you imagine how humilated and embarrassed he must be over his father's sexual antics? Everyone is probably laughing and giggling at Jr. because of his father's mishaps.
OH MY GOSH! UNDERAGE DRINKING! seroiusly...arent there more important matters at hand regarding villaraigosa? I mean, I for one, am glad that this celebrity child chose to enjoy his adoelscent "fun" in a safe way, and didn't choose to get behind the wheel or go on any dangerous escapades like so many other children (Al Gore III, for one)...what he did (if indeed he did), is nothing more than what everyone else participated in in college, and I for one find it ridiculous that anyone would single out this kid simply because of the family he was born into...I mean, really, anyone who takes the time to try and hurt this kid (mainly the post above this one trying to send photos to his school) is just a bitter shut-in with nothing better to do. I know from what my kids tell me that police are often very soft when they come upon underage drinkers (which is often) and what probably happened was that the officer was simply trying to keep these kids safe, and get them home, instead of causing a scene and arresting everyone...probably didn't even have anything to do with villar jr...the fact that he described the police officer as "cool" does not mean he got special treatment.
The cute Asian girl in the photos will probably be the next Mrs. Villaraigosa.
Not junior's wife. The Mayor's.
5:26
Really! Do you actually have to ask that question! He's Villar's kid - you think he's a braintrust? Daddy pulls strings + affirmative action and Voila! Off to Princeton!
This is wrong. This story has no business being ramped up in public. Jr. IS NOT A PUBLIC FIGURE! What he chooses to do is his own business, not ours.
Just because the news media chooses to report on the Bush Twins, doesn't make it news.
We, all of us, have the responsibility to lash out when news organizations cross the line. If you are unwilling to do that, then simply do not click on the links.
This blog in the past has done a fairly good job discriminating between news that potentially effects the city in which we live, from useless drivel.
I"m asking you Dogg, let this one go. It isn't news, and you should be at the forefront of an issue like this, not trying to justify it by pointing to past transgressions by the media as validation.
MORE ON LAUSD!
Has anyone here who's ragging on AV Jr.'s intelligence and character ever even met the kid?
I didn't think so.
This post is pathetic and MS should ashamed of himself. This blog has sunk to a trashy new low.
Leave Antonio's family alone. They deserve their privacy.
MS,
Take the thread down!!
I agree...take this crap down!
MS...why do you have to start spreading dirt on 18-y.o. kids whom no one elected to any office? he hasn't hurt anyone or done anything that would affect the lives or livelihood of the citizens of Los Angeles...this is absolutely ridiculous.
Yea, MS.
Dad is fair game, but not the son.
Keep him out of this mess. Take the thread down!!!!
7:46 Yea, it's sad, but MS should take this crap down!!!
Mayor Sam:
You are growing dangerously close to being sold next to the tabloids at the supermarket. Don't make your usually-insightful blog into a mockery of mudslinging.
9:17, 9:21, 9:24, 9:28, 9:30, 9:31, 9:35
All from the same person. Next time spread your posts out or better yet, if you're so offended, move on! Nobody is forcing you to read this. Jr. reaped some benefits from his dad's position. I'm sure he got special treatment at Loyola High after his dad steered that 30 million dollar bond their way and that bedroom at the mayor's mansion is nice. So he is fair game - if you beneift from celebrity you are subject to its downside, no matter the age.
Take it down!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you beneift from celebrity you are subject to its downside, no matter the age.
July 11, 2007 10:03 PM
===========================
THANK YOU!
I am so sick of these media whores who are nothing until they utilize the media to propel themselves into the public spotlight THEN have the nerve to scream about not having any PRIVACY! The very media/tabloid/paparazzi machinery that they are all too happy to use to keep their faces and names active before the drooling masses and to manipulate them and drain them of their money do not then get to complain that they have no privacy! YOU bargained away your privacy along with your soul when you made your greedy, narcissistic bargain with that particular devil and you can just LIVE WITH IT!!
Neither the 18 year old son nor the father have any qualms about sucking up every special advantage and special deal they can from Villar's current position so they can just LIVE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES WITH THAT TERRITORY - AND IF THEY THINK THAT INCLUDES PRIVACY, RESPECT AND NO SCRUTINY, THEY BETTER THINK AGAIN !
10:03,
Let's forward your post to Kobe.
Look, we all spend our time complaining about the people who are supposed to be serving us.
We lament that the quality of those willing to venture into the arena is often lacking.
I submit, that this is a huge reason why better qualified, moral people stay away. It's one thing to forfeit your own privacy in the pursuit of public service, it's quite another to forfeit your entire family's.
Honestly, I find it incredibly difficult to accept that you really feel this is news.
If the Bush twins get caught drinking, that's a matter for the police and her parents. If Al Gore's son is busted for pills and driving too fast it's not news. The only news in that story was that a Prius will do 100mph!
These are private matters. If we want lucid, honorable, and productive government then we need men and women of fantastic quality.
I'm not surprised that we have so many Randy Duke Cunninghams, I'm surprised we don't have more.
Take it down.
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