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Wednesday, May 09, 2007

Jury Instructions For Mayor Villaraigosa Re LAPD And May Day

By Walter Moore, Candidate for Mayor of Los Angeles, MooreIsBetter.com

One of the things those of us who actually passed the bar exam have learned is that jurors should not discuss the facts of a case until they have heard all the evidence. The standard admonition judges read at the outset of a trial contains the following passages:

"Do not allow anything that happens outside this courtroom to affect your decision. During the trial do not talk about this case or the people involved in it with anyone . . . . You must not even talk about the case with the other jurors until after I tell you that it is time for you to decide the case."

"It is important that you keep an open mind throughout this trial. Evidence can only be presented a piece at a time. Do not form or express an opinion about this case while the trial is going on. You must not decide on a verdict until after you have heard all the evidence and have discussed it thoroughly with your fellow jurors in your deliberations."

The purpose of these instructions is to make sure fact-finders keep an open mind, and hear all the evidence before deciding who, if anyone, was at fault.

Public figures should, in my opinion, follow essentially the same procedure. It was not helpful for Mayor Villaraigosa and Chief Bratton to, in essence, convict LAPD officers in advance for alleged "misconduct" during the May Day protests.

I don't know if police engaged in misconduct or not. I have not reviewed all the videotape, nor have I interviewed the witnesses or reviewed their background (e.g., criminal records, political agendas, etc.). Some officers may have engaged in misconduct. However, even a cursory review of the video suggest some serious questions concerning people who claimed the police "attacked" them:

1. How can the reporters claim there was no warning or announcement, when the videos show that the mass of the crowd was moving away from the police, while the reporters were not? Most people in the crowd seemed to get the message that the line of police advancing their way wanted them to move. Why didn't the "victims" catch on, too?

2. When a police officer tells you to "MOVE!," what part of that is unclear? What in the world would make you think that's an invitation for a discussion or debate?

3. As for the video of the cameraman who appears to be knocked over, watch that video carefully one or two times. Does it look like the police officer pushed him hard enough to fall over, or does it look more like: i) the officer touches the cameraman; ii) the cameraman pauses for an instant, as if thinking; and iii) the cameraman then leans and rolls onto the ground?

4. How can we reasonably expect the police to get a fair hearing when the Mayor and Chief have publicly declared the police were at fault, and demoted the police in charge that day?

Villaraigosa of all people should understand the importance of keeping an open mind. After all, he himself, I believe, was once on trial for assault, and 11 of the 12 jurors, as I recall, voted to convict. Would he have appreciated the City's Mayor announcing before the trial that he was guilty?

Furthermore, the City Ethics Commission now has charges pending against Villaraigosa for 31 violations of the City's Ethics laws in connection with his 2003 campaign for City Council. Could he get a fair hearing if, say, the Governor and Attorney General publicly declared in advance that he's guilty?

As I say, I myself don't have enough information right now to whether anyone engaged in misconduct -- other than people who attacked the police. I do know, however, that public officials should avoid prejudicing the rights of police officers by announcing their guilt before they've even had an opportunity to present their case.

I suspect, moreover, that if the police had not cleared the square, and if the attack on them had escalated to include fires and looting, the press, Mayor and Chief would probably be blaming the officers for that, too.

29 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, have you seen that flick "Idiocracy," depicting a future in which everyone is a moron since so few intelligent people had kids and all the dopes and idiots had lots of children during the preceding centuries?

That sums up the illegal alien/welfare state debate.

May 09, 2007 11:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wally,
The police should not be shoving the media, or tossing their cameras, they are obviously there to cover the event, they are not participants.

May 09, 2007 11:58 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

11:48:
I have seen that movie. It's funny and disturbing at the same time.

11:58:
So everyone BUT the media must obey orders to clear an area? Just like everyone but illegal aliens must obey the law? For all I know, that may actually be department policy. It makes as much sense as Special Order 40.

Let's say, however, that you're right, and that it is the official policy of the LAPD to let anyone with a camera go wherever they like. If an officer nonetheless tells that reporter to move, what should happen next? Should the reporter start arguing with and shoving the officer? Or should the reporter comply with the instruction immediately, and complain later?

Me, I think the reporter should comply now, and lodge complaints later. An officer trying to clear an area does not have the time to engage in a debate. Delaying that officer's movement, moreover, could impede the clearing of the park.

We've seen how ugly crowds can get in this town. We've seen looting, burning, brutal beatings -- everything. Would that necessarily have happened here? I doubt it, but I don't really know, and neither do you.

I gather some in the crowd actually pushed one officer off of his motorcycle, and threw rocks and bottles at the police. To me, that's more than enough reason to shut the protest down then and there. I don't want to handcuff the police and force them to wait until someone throws the first Molotov cocktail or breaks the first window.

Look, some individual officers may have engaged in misconduct. If they did, they should face the consequences. My point is simply that we need to keep an open mind until we've heard all the evidence.

May 10, 2007 12:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter I like you have not viewed all the evidence but you come to conclusions without admitting some very public facts that are not in question.

1. The 2000 convention in Los Angeles produced a consent decree that the LAPD did not follow, not a single guideline that the LAPD is required to follow was acted up last week.

A - When events like May 1st occur, it is the "commander" in charges job to designate a media square -- this was not done, so it was left to Mary Grady the media liason to the LAPD. So the media follows the rules given to them by a sworn peace officer and stay within their area with their LAPD media passes clearly visible the entire time. Because of the consent decree the media is allowed to stay within that perimeter and can only be removed when their in-house producers call them from their home stations after being consulted with the LAPD.

Media cannot be removed by officers on the ground -- so when reporters were forcibly removed you could imagine their shock and dismay -- because of LAPD's previous history of illegal assault, reporters could have quickly believed that the LAPD was getting ready to cover something up.

Clearly in this instance the LAPD was in fault -- and the two officers that have been reassigned were #1 & #2 in line to communicate with the media per the consent decree. Because they purposefully ignored this rule they were dealt with.

Now Walter interesting thing -- these same officers handled the marches of May 1st 2006 fine -- they even handled protests in between -- but when they made this mistake there was no mis-communication it was a lack of leadership from these officers.

As for all the other LAPD officers in question -- not a single one has been personally demoted via their personel files.

May 10, 2007 12:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The difference between the media and a "guy with a camera" is pretty obvious. I didn't see the media shoving the police, it was the other way around. Sorry, Wally, but the media is the way we get to view and gauge the events. When the police start shutting down and pushing around bona fide media cameramen, then we're back
to taking the word of either the protesters, or the police, on what actually transpired.

May 10, 2007 1:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter doesn't get out often.
Smoking cigars and making videos of himself pontificating and proclaiming
himself the best candidate for Mayor
is pretty much the extent of his world. It's basically a desktop candidacy. Observe the monkey and enjoy.

May 10, 2007 2:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thank you Walter for being the voice of reason. Jill Leovy a reporter stated she was with the media when they were told to disperse or be arrested. They didn't comply because they are vultures trying to get a story. John Ziegler played the helicopter tape telling the crowd in English to disperse. The illegals make the excuse they don't understand English. Then they should learn cause you're in the US.Gonzales was right in the middle of the mess. Other reporters have stated on radio programs that there were a lot of protesters antagozing the police and were carrying big video cameras that looked like the media. All too often in LA both sides are not reported. Just like the video in Hollywood where the media failed to show the suspect grabbing and fighting with the officer. They only showed the suspect being hit by the officer. Everyone's rushing to judgment and forgets our county jails are filled over 60% with illegals. Major gangs are made up of illegals, illegal vendors all over LA without permits, schools overcrowded with illegals, hospitals closed because of illegals. Police Officers have been killed by illegals, David March and the Long Beach officer last year. Yet, these people want sympathy for breaking the law. News is reporting they're not getting much sympathy up on the hill and a temporary bill will soon pass and hopefully send many of them back home.

May 10, 2007 7:26 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

12:54:
Interesting and good points.

2:06:
No, actually I do get out, and I spend my time sifting through masses of conflicting evidence and testimony to determine the truth. I'm actually an experienced professional in fact-finding. I try cases. What do YOU do for a living, pray tell?

May 10, 2007 7:29 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

7:26: Also good points. Plus, even if you don't speak the language, in what Universe would an announcement from a helicopter, while a line of police is marching slowly across the park, mean "Please stay put and argue with the police"?

May 10, 2007 7:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

City overtaxed cellphone users,
appeals court rules

A state appeals court ruled Wednesday that the city has been overtaxing cellphone users — potentially costing the city millions of dollars in revenue each year.

The 2nd Appellate District of the Court of Appeal found that a 2003 tax increase was a violation of Proposition 218, which requires voter approval of such hikes.

There are several similar suits in courts around the state. Los Angeles officials have said in recent weeks that the city could forfeit up to $270 million a year in revenue if it loses all the court decisions.

Instead of these dumb politicans speaking out look what they've done to this city. They need a task force to oversee their stupidity.

May 10, 2007 7:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

May 1st shows examples of:

- lack of proper training and implementation by LAPD, ("penny-wise, pound-foolish" government-approach to training need and litigation consequences),

- LAPD decision-makers making decisions of magnitude disproportionate to the level of subject problem,

- Small group of inciters acting that should have been anticipated and specifically addressed,

- Communications snafu at multiple levels,

After May 1: the problems magnified by flame-fanners Fabian Nunez, Antonio Villaraigosa and the regulars. Chief Bratton just trying not to fall off the fence and keep job.

May 10, 2007 7:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa told Bratton that he wanted heads to roll for this. In order for Bratton to save his job he is following orders from the Mecha Mayor.

The Mecha Mayor hates the police they are only a means to get elected into higher office. If crime goes up he knows that it will be used against him in future campaigns.

What the Mecha Mayor doesn't know or doesn't care is that many police officers are elegible to retire right now.

I wouldn't want to be standing in front of the door to the retirement office in the next few months it is going to be busy. New police recruits are going to go to other cities. LAPD is going to experience a steep decline in manpower in the next few years.

I wish I had enough time to retire.

May 10, 2007 8:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You got that right. Watch for a LAPD numbers to decline dramatically. In April 300 veterans had to retire because of the DROP program. So now the majority of the force out in streets have less then 10 yrs. on. LA is the most underpoliced city in the entire US. Poiticans knew this was coming but kept saying they didn't have money to spend on hiring more cops. No LAPD recruits for this city as long as the MECHA Barrio low class Mayor leaves town. LAPD will not make up the numbers and Gang banger Antonio will never meet his goal. Notice how Mecha Boy isn't talking about gang banging anymore. His ADD (attention deficity disorder)is in full swing. Mecha Boy will know what officers think of him when they start to boo his butt if he ever goes near them. Ask Bitter Bernie how that felt everytime he was in front of rank and file and he got booed really really loudly. Crime will go up guaranteed cause a lot of cops take vacation around this time. People need to start seeing that yellow tape in their neghborhoods then maybe they'll get it and appreciate the officers.

May 10, 2007 9:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought the Mayor said the city doesn't have any money.
The Los Angeles City Council approved...a master plan Wednesday that calls for new development, parks and recreation facilities along 32 miles of riverfront property from Canoga Park to Boyle Heights......could cost $2 billion to complete, the L.A. River Revitalization Master Plan aims to clean up the water inside the river and redevelop the communities on its banks.

MORONS!!!!!

May 10, 2007 9:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

so Walter, under your theory, I myself can now personally shut down any protest march or rally in this country and have it dispersed.

all i have to do is go to the rally and throw a rock at the police.

its just ridiculous. go back to making cheap cheesy youtube videos that get no hits.

check my YouTube to see what real net action is about, and what kind of numbers of views you should hope for.

if numbers are anything., I should run against you. I'm just not that psychotic to actually think I could win, so I won't bother.

May 10, 2007 10:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The illegials filed a Class Action against the City of LA because of the riot. I want to know, if they have to live in Section 8, collect free medical, collect food, collect a free education, including law schools who had the money to buy a lwayer. If they win, each will have enough money to pay there way back. Or, they will have free travel, via air, if anyone has to come back to the ole USA and testify. This action will take years and years and years.

May 10, 2007 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gee, where do I apply to become an illegal?

May 10, 2007 11:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:58 - Go to the Mayor's Office of Immigrant Services - maybe they might have an application for you... or maybe you can ask Matt Dowd!

May 10, 2007 12:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The sad reality in all of this is the city of LA will feel the fallout because of a bunch of illegals. I'm tired of people saying they're just here trying to make a living. Tell that to all the business owners all over the city who are losing their businesses to these law breaking criminals who are taking away their customers having their illegal carts in front of their stores getting tax free cash. Answer this question you supporters of illegals. Why is it the UK immigrants, Asian, and others who have come here to LA and been here for years applied to become citizens, learned the language and laws and now are legal? Why is it the Mexicans want a free ride? Why haven't they applied? Don't give me the excuse they don't know how to apply. They sure know how to apply for welfare, free healthcare, schools, CALWorks, etc.

May 10, 2007 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12.04

funny. I appreciate that.

but here's the answer. to become an illegal you have to be prosecuted by the federal govt. and after due process has been served, a judge will declare you illegal, and you have 30 days to leave.

thousands of those already declared did not leave, and that backlog is being chased by the ICE people. those not prosecuted yet are not 'illegal' until proved, and in fact its probably libelous and slander to publicly besmirch someone's character without that official process being served and completed.

so be careful exactly what groups and individuals you decide to label with the 'illegal' tag.
its vilification, and its slander, regardless of how that person or group appears to you.

remember the slogan "innocent until proven guilty"

or is that just a myth too.

like the police are here to serve and 'protect'

City politics are transparent and inclusive.

the check's in the mail

etc

May 10, 2007 12:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the media is failing to show.


http://www.mmdnewswire.com/content/view/1606/

May 10, 2007 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sure the media won't have any coverage on these brave heroes.

46th Medal of Valor Ceremony

The Medal of Valor is the Los Angeles Police Department’s highest honor and is awarded
to officers who distinguish themselves by conspicuous bravery or heroism above and
beyond the normal demands of police service. To be awarded the Medal of Valor, an
officer would have performed an act displaying extreme courage while consciously
facing imminent peril.

46th Medal of Valor Recipents:
Police Officer Rudy Barragan, Metropolitan Division
Police Officer Marco Briones, Newton Area
Sergeant Albert Gavin, Training Division
Sergeant Jeffrey Wenninger, Use of Force Review Division
Sergeant Jose Castellanos, Audit Division
Sergeant Miguel Lopez, Rampart Area
Police Officer Stephen Diaz, Wilshire Area
Police Officer Guy Dobine, Metropolitan Division
Police Officer Jude Washington, Southeast Area
Detective Alberto Junco, Operations-West Bureau
Detective Mark Pursel, West Los Angeles Area
Detective Sandy Kim, Santa Ana Police Department (Former LAPD Police Officer)
Police Officer Arturo Perez, Burbank Police Department (Former LAPD Police Officer)
Police Officer Kenyard Bilal, Former Police Officer
Police Officer Gerard Jackson, L.A. County Sheriff Deputy (Former LAPD Police Officer)
Police Officer Walter Kesterson, deceased
Police Officer John Porras, Hollenbeck Area
Police Officer James Tuck, Hollenbeck Area
Police Officer Joseph Meyer, 77th Street Area

May 10, 2007 1:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bratton: he jumped to conclusions and prostituted himself so he can get a second term as chief. He's lost a lot of respect.

Villaraigosa: well, what can you say. He's proven once again that he is the mayor of the illegal aliens, for the illegal aliens, and by the illegal aliens.

May 10, 2007 1:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The nerve of the MecHa cholo mayor to show up to Medal of Valor again for a photo op after he condemned the entire dept. to the media. Word is officers wanted to take his ass out to a back alley and show him some manhood. People are saying they knew he was pretty sleazy and arrogant but never to this level. HE has no shame whatsoever. His mom obviously didn't raise him how to be a man but a mouse.

May 10, 2007 2:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Matt Dowd,

If you were in fact in the country illegally, you would NEVER EVER EVER win a libel or slander suit against a person calling you an illegal, regardless of whether or not a judge had made an assessment of your immigration status.

It's as if you were saying that no one who has not been convicted of rape is a rapist.

May 10, 2007 4:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To the 46th Medal of Valor patriots

Thank you for exposing your life in peace and in war to save my life as my parents and grandfathers did.

May 10, 2007 4:54 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

1:40:
Great turn of phrase. You really caught the essence of L.A., America's own little Banana Republic.

7:34:
Nice catch re the tax ruling. I have always resented the "fee" on my cell phone bill from the City of L.A. -- as if City Hall were somehow providing any part of my cell phone service! I want my refund, and I want it NOW! These lawless crooks think they can just sidestep Prop 13 by calling new taxes "fees."

May 10, 2007 5:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4.08 please catch up.

that's obvious. truth beats slander, anyone knows that. geeze.

I said 'be careful who you slander'

no where did that reference me in particular. people on this blog happily refer to EVERYONE at that rally as 'illegals'.

plainly that's preposterous.

boy, we got some bright sparks out today.

May 10, 2007 6:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

matt dowd is an illegal alien.

May 10, 2007 7:01 PM  

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