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Saturday, April 12, 2008

Frank Buckley on Jamiel's Law

KTLA's Frank Buckley has an interesting post on his blog about Jamiel's Law. Buckley talks about the Shaw's 18 year plan for Jamiel - which was on track remarkably until he was shot as part of an alleged Latino gang hit on a Black youth - the Shaws had for their son. He calls on law enforcement and elected officials to look at the issue of gang violence and the part that illegal immigration plays in it.

The downside is that Buckley buys and does not even challenge from a devil's advocate point of view the usual Bratton Special Order 40 Culver City Spin. However, I guess we have to be grateful that Jamiel's tragic death and the Shaw's amazing activism are at least getting the media and some folks talking.

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Late with the news as usual, Michael Higby. There's no Jamiel's Law. The Zine motion before city council will not be called by that name, and it clears up but doesn't revoke SP 40.

But from a guy who last night called the P Stones the Keystones, no one expects much more. Did you get a copy of Zine's motion? Post it please. Did you call his office and find out what they're calling the motion? Post that too.

My God, your standards get lower with each try. The "Culver City Spin" is that there is no database. Didn't your right wing cronies tell you that?

April 12, 2008 10:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The last gasp of the far right. Frank Buckley on what used to be Jamiel's Law.

April 12, 2008 10:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Order 40 change is sought

By Rachel Uranga and Rick Orlov

"If they have a known gang member, they should be able to check their status and put an immigration hold on them if they are here illegally," Zine said. "Most of the crime we have in the city now is because of gangs, and we have to send a message to them."

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said he supports any clarification of Special Order 40, but doesn't believe Zine's proposal will change the existing regulation.

April 12, 2008 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I came across some of the most articulate comments against SP 40 on a very lib blog, Witness LA, run by Celeste Fremon who supports "father gangbanger doyle," I don't know about his credibility.

You guys could also do a whole lot better, quoting from this blog, on other threads. Since you don't and people don't want to cut and paste anymore, or rewrite, you're dying.

April 12, 2008 10:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why aren't you posting my threads? You must post my threads or I will ask the Mayor to shut down this blog.

April 12, 2008 10:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam this is incredible! You have a paid spinner on your blog! He doesn't sleep! He's relentless! Is he getting paid by the hour or the comment?

April 12, 2008 11:22 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

If City Hall had adopted Jamiel's Law in, say, 2001, when Zine took office, the LAPD would have had the authority and obligation to find, arrest and deport gang members like Pedro Espinoza for seven YEARS before he allegedly killed Jamiel.

The argument that the Sheriff failed to discover Espinoza was here illegally does NOT justify continuing to prevent the LAPD from cooperating with ICE to catch the Espinozas of L.A. BEFORE they murder our children.

April 12, 2008 11:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're a liar, Walter, and what's more, you lied about the LAW! There must be some kind of bar complaint that can be filed about this?? Not that it matters. You sell Castles Without Hassles, lol!

April 12, 2008 11:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Special Order 40
Section III

The Headquarters Section Desk Officer, Detective Headquarters Division upon notification that an undocumented alien has been arrested for multiple misdeameanor offenses, a high grade misdeameanor or a felony offense, or has been arrested for the same offense a second time shall:

Record the information provided in the DHD Undocumented Alien Log.

Notify the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service via teletype of the arrest of the individual

Forward daily all Arrest Reports marked "Undocumented Alien" to the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service.

April 12, 2008 11:41 PM  

Blogger LA Daily Blogger said:

The Zine/Smith motion will not pass City Council, as is.

Alarcon: No
Rosendahl: No
Weiss: No
Reyes: No
Perry: No
Hahn: No
Zine: Yes
Smith: Yes
LaBong: Yes
Greuel: Yes
Garcetti: Yes
Huizar: No
Wesson: No
Parks: No

No: 9
Yes: 6

The "Ayes" DON'T have it.

In order for it to pass they will have to take out the part where they can run your ICE status even if you are not arrested. Then maybe Janice would vote "Yes", reluctantly out of pressure, but the "no's" would still have it and i don't think janice would vote yes, cause then the mayor would cut her off from the "gang intervention" money...since he now has consolidated control into his back pocket/office. (Yes, this week the mayor's office took control of the whole gang intervention unit.

April 13, 2008 12:11 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Zuma Dogg - I want to aks you a question:

Why would this one guy spend all day and night posting over and over again. Is he paid or just nuts?

April 13, 2008 12:23 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Special Order 40 isn't actually a "law." It is the name of a directive issued by the police chief in 1978 or 1979.

The relevant provisions today, in 2008, are in the LAPD Manual: Vol. 1, § 390 and Vol. 4, § 264.50.

It's the current incarnation of Special Order 40 that Jamiel's Law addresses, not the original version, the provisions of which the LAPD manual omits.

April 13, 2008 12:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can answer that. He thinks your a lying slob, Higby, and since he has the facts to prove it, he thought he'd forgo tennis this weekend to show you with your pants around your ankles. Which he did, in spades!

Does that blow your skirt up? Or are you happier with your fantasy that you're so important to the mayor that he hahahah pays people to tell off your fat ass?

April 13, 2008 12:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry, I left out, you're a lying racist slob, in his opinion.

April 13, 2008 12:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I know. I know! He's a former member of the Keystone Gang!

April 13, 2008 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ummm, he doesn't like racists?

April 13, 2008 12:36 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

It seems more like he (you - we know) has done nothing more than waste a beautiful weekend making a fool of himself.

Keep calling me, Walter, whoever racists. That just makes your argument stronger.


April 13, 2008 12:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Come on admit it, your weekend has been less than beautiful. You were exposed as a lying fraud and now, all of a sudden, you hate comments?

Is the LA Slimes watching? Antonio and his crew? Clowncil? Heck, you're the one who says they ALL read you. So yes, they all saw it. Could be they're laughing their asses off. And if you don't post the comments, we'll just go stick them up on Joe's.

April 13, 2008 12:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam this is incredible! You have a paid spinner on your blog! He doesn't sleep! He's relentless! Is he getting paid by the hour or the comment?


Don Quackers has got himself worked up into fervor over any talk of deporting even illegal alien gang members. And since being exposed for a racist “menudo enema” fool, he just can’t stop talking about his newest cyber enemy Higby. He is NOT a paid spinner but a known, multiple personality psycho who spends all his time on the Internet.

Now he is over at Joe. Mailanders blog writting comment after comment to himself.

April 13, 2008 2:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Of course Celeste Fremon and her blog witnessla is aganst Special Issue 40. Didn't you read her trash in LA Weekly a couple of years ago about the American Family who were gang bangers Celeste was trying to fake as if they were really trying? Low and behold they both ended up getting busted for drug possession and dealing. Their kids were taken away. And get this, Father gang banger Boyle was given one of those kids without having to go through any agency. Father Gang Banger and his ganster employees are cut from the same cloth, immoral, uneducated, illegal, graffitti tagger, low lifes.

April 13, 2008 6:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Obviously the Reyes, Alarcons etc. won't vote for it, but every other city council person should be held accountable for the deterioration of life in LA due to illegal gang bangers. This place is a cess pool unless you can afford to live high up in the Palisades or Brentwood. And as for all the drama on this site, if you're not in the know, it's rather childish.

April 13, 2008 10:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:44, You mean Celeste Fremon/witnessla are against repealing SP40 or even clarifying it so that cops ask about illegal status of suspects, even when they're stopped for a secondary reason. And if you read her current take on this, she's crying that we American taxpayers need to spend more money on "prevention and interventions" so that "we could have saved both Jamiel Shaw and his killer."

What dangerous bullshit, why doesn't she pay for it herself, but no, she just supports gangbangers. Actually, gang intervention programs wouldn't have been needed for Jamiel Shaw, since he has a close relationship with his dad, who he was calling on the phone even as a 17-year old.

Wonder how many siblings, including younger Anchor Babies, Espinoza had? He came here when he was 4 and is 19 now, so we're probably paying for a bunch of little Espinoza gangbangers, since these people reproduce like rabbits and go right on welfare and every social benefit.

With "families" like this wacky lefties like Fremon can cry all they want about more money saving them, and get lefties like Janice Hahn and Cardenas and the Mexicans to tax law-abiding citizens even more for new programs but it won't make any difference -- these are who need to be deported!

April 13, 2008 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What about the "AMERICAN" gangbangers?

April 13, 2008 3:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good point 3:46p. Starting with 20,000 LA Crips with AK-47s on the the roof tops of Jordan Downs. They have held that project hostage for 20 years, threatening and robbing the old people and raping 8 year old girls.

April 13, 2008 5:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What about that idiot Alicia Keys wearing a AK 47 chain around her neck and sprewing hated about the US gov;t. She's saying that Tupac and Biggie Smalls deaths were gov't related. Yeah, right Alicia you moron. She has the nerve to quote the Black Panthers. She is what's wrong with our society and the youth not having any role models

April 13, 2008 6:42 PM  

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