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Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Another response to more vitriol from Jasmyne Cannick, formerly of L.A. Times


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In response to this drivel from everyone's favorite self-hating Black lesbian:

I don't even know where to begin. There is so much wrong with your view Miss Panther, so I'll do my best to show you exactly what, but it's safe to say that your conclusions are a chaotic mess at best. Here goes:

'... the fact remains that two people getting married, same-sex or not, has no financial impact whatsoever on the rest of us. None. We may not like it, but at the end of the day, gay marriage doesn’t take food from anyone’s mouth, clothes off of anyone’s back, or a roof from over someone’s head. But judging from the way we acted, you would have thought that it did.'

Oh Jasmyne, you poor dear. Are you ever right about *anything*? Ever? Not only would overturning Prop 8 invite bright, talented gay people to California in droves, but gay marriage has already produced this result in Massachusetts. Furthermore, there is an economic backlash (and rightly so) against those who decided that in a time of economic crisis, their money was best spent on stripping a minority class of its rights.

'At the end of the day, it was a poorly run campaign predicated on the premise that because we’re Black (in my case Black and gay) and benefited from the Civil Rights Movement, that by osmosis we’d oppose the measure'

In fact it was a poorly run campaign, but not because it didn't do enough to reach out to Black people. This is the second time you've made this critique and the second time you have not provided examples of what it could have done better. We're only talking about a vote here - No on Prop 8 didn't guilt the Black community into helping out and certainly didn't ask for its hard-earned money. I also didn't see a pro-African American measure on the ballot for No on 8 to support. Did you? So what did you want exactly? Did you want a gay rights organization to throw an African-American pride parade or something?

Maybe they shouldn't have stopped there. Maybe they should have done the same for Mexicans, Italians, the disabled, children... you get the idea. Your point here, once again, is moot. And once again I will remind you of a time when Blacks and whites could not intermarry. So yeah, I think a lot of gay people safely, but clearly incorrectly assumed a fellow marginalized community would come to its aid.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Black religious leaders seem to have forgotten Dr. King's words in order to focus on Deuteronomy instead. You can't blame No on 8 for that, now can you? It's not their job to remind you, just like your lesbian self claimed it wasn't your job to spend a minute or two talking to people about Prop 8 when you were campaigning for Socialist-In-Chief Obama who so far has done NOTHING for Blacks. Voting No on 8 was just the right thing for the community to do and now you blame the 'gay agenda' for distracting Black Congresspeople when it's more likely said Congresspeople are being motivated by their own guilt in not having done the right thing in the first place.

Indeed the current economic crisis has NOTHING to do with race or equal opportunity so once again your confrontational attitude towards those who are either not black or pandering to the Black community is frightening race-baiting and does nothing to further your causes. Do you REALLY think that Blacks are 'at the bottom of the food chain in California' exclusively or completely? Do you REALLY think it's because they're Black? Have you looked around at all? You don't see an near-exponential increase in the number of poor people of other races - especially whites? Are you living under a ROCK? It's about time you realize that we're all in this together.

I sincerely hope that nobody shares your distorted, overly militant views after reading your articles simply because you write like a self-proclaimed 'expert' on race relations and end your paragraphs with the word 'message.' Word.

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6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I heart you Sarah.

June 02, 2009 10:06 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

It's lesbian vs. lesbian on Mayor Sam!

June 02, 2009 10:59 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Saigon Bob?

June 02, 2009 10:59 PM  

Anonymous The Ugly American said:

Why is that anytime a queer steps out of line, the gay gestapo feels they must jump up and immediately brand them with a "self-hating" label.

Look....as a lesbian conservative, Jasmyne and I are probably as far apart politically as two people can get but when it comes to her thoughts on blacks and gay marriage, I totally get where she's coming from.

Perhaps if you'd bothered to read Jasmyne's bio, you might have a better understanding about her.

Frankly, I find her thoughts on elitist white gays to be not only accurate but refreshingly candid as well.

Have you ever *lived* in South Central, my little blonde lily-white lesbian buttercup?

Thought not.

So enough with the self-hating meme already.

Just because another lesbian disagrees with you doesn't mean they hate p*ssy.

Try taking a walk outside you little queer bubble for once and expand your horizons.

BTW, this self-loathing lesbian voted YES on Prop 8.

Deal with it.

June 03, 2009 10:47 PM  

Blogger Debbie said:

I don't even know where to begin. There is so much wrong with your view Miss Panther,


Srsly... WTF? I didn't know Jasmyne Cannick was a member of the Black Panthers!!!!

Rawk!

OH, and this part here:

'... the fact remains that two people getting married, same-sex or not, has no financial impact whatsoever on the rest of us. None. We may not like it, but at the end of the day, gay marriage doesn’t take food from anyone’s mouth, clothes off of anyone’s back, or a roof from over someone’s head. But judging from the way we acted, you would have thought that it did.'

and yer response:

Oh Jasmyne, you poor dear. Are you ever right about *anything*? Ever? Not only would overturning Prop 8 invite bright, talented gay people to California in droves, but gay marriage has already produced this result in Massachusetts.

Uh, Dude ... yer stretching. She was chastizing the Blek Community for acting like it was some sorta skin off their nose if they voted No on 8. This reads like she was tellin them "nothing will be taken away from you by virtue of supporting the rights of gays to marry."

I could be wrong, but I think you are too.

I think the work "vitriol" is highly overused here.

And I think someone doth protest too much about being "self-hating".

Word.

June 04, 2009 2:25 PM  

Blogger Sarah Michelle Spinosa said:

Ugly American, I don't label people nearly as easily as you seem to think. If you knew more about the way she sold out her lesbian principals for a little extra time to talk about Obama (i.e. her article entitled 'No on 8's white bias' - just the headline is race-baiting bullshit) or knew that I have next to NOTHING to do with the gay community, let alone the 'gestapo,' then you would know why I feel she's self-hating. My problem with her isn't her lack of identification with the community at all.

It's because she DOES have involvement in both communities and when it comes down to it, she'll sell out gay for Black EVERY time. Maybe you need to read her material again?

No, I haven't lived in South Central, but again since you know nothing of me I'll say that the issues facing South Central are not EXCLUSIVE to South Central or even to Black people and you know it.

I grew up poor, then middle class, then poor again, then homeless. Do you know where I spent most of my time when I was in extreme poverty? With my NUMEROUS, EXCLUSIVELY BLACK friends... in downtown Boston and in Dorchester, Roxbury, Mattapan, MA. Look up those neighborhoods on Wikipedia and tell me that they're Disneyland. Lesson here? Never, NEVER judge a book by its cover.

Those friends and many I've made since then have gave me a VIP 'ghetto pass' and I intend to use it. I don't care what color your skin is, so why do you care about mine?

Again, who is the racist here?

As to you Valley Doll:

'Frankly, I find her thoughts on elitist white gays to be not only accurate but refreshingly candid as well.'

OK fine. I buy that. Hell, I even agree, but what you're saying here is that racism should run both ways, that instead of ignoring a bunch of snobby elitist sons of bitches (and I*'ll be the first to agree that many of them are), the Black community should elevate the rhetoric. I said it to Jasmyne and I'll say it again: that's not helpful to anyone.

When I was in Kindergarten I was taught to ignore people's negative words. Somehow Miss Jasmyne missed that lesson and subsequently got a freelance spot on the L.A. Times roster. That said, where is my job offer from CNN?

Furthermore:

"This reads like she was tellin them 'nothing will be taken away from you by virtue of supporting the rights of gays to marry.'"

As I told Ugly American, Jasmyne didn't bother to impart that wisdom upon those she talked to about Obama in order for them to vote AGAINST Prop 8 because she didn't feel gay marriage was important enough to discuss with Black folks considering the other issues facing that community, and ironically, none of those issues have been addressed by President Obama. In fact, by propping up a devious banking institution that preys on the poor, he has actually CONTINUED the age of the Black people's dependency on the government. Where the hell is THEIR bailout?

So again, absolutely, Jasmyne is the racist, my 'lily-white' skin notwithstanding.

Oh, and by the way. I'n not even 'lily-white' (except in the dead of winter), I'm Italian. My family came over from northern Italy and Sicily around 1903 - no slaves in tow. Don't blame me. I'm proud to say that my family didn't benefit one iota from slavery, so save it. ;)

June 04, 2009 10:34 PM  

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