The Heartfelt Words of a Dad: Jamiel Shaw, Sr. Responds to Smear Campaign
For the last few days, the editorial staff at Mayor Sam has received and rejected numerous slanderous comments trying to make the claim that murdered teenager Jamiel Shaw was a gang member, and hence he was killed because of his gang affiliation, not his race. The pro-Special Order 40 crowd has a strange need to maintain their position by creating this apparent falsehood.Jamiel Shaw, Sr. has told me that Jamiel was not a gang banger. So has Walter Moore. I believe them.
The person making this claim has no credibility with me or many readers of this blog.
Those who are behind this should be ashamed of themselves. Your tarnishing the memory of a beloved individual, a minor child, who is no longer with us. What did he do to you?
Until I see otherwise, I believe Mr. Shaw. Below are his words that he has asked me to share with you:
To the Person or Persons trying to smear my son:
My son Jamiel A. Shaw, II, (Jas) was a SuperStar Destined for Greatness! The Mayor of Los Angeles spoke these exact words at his last State of the City speech. He was right! My Son was destined for greatness and he is, "A SuperStar"!
It's a shame, that an American Citizen youth, can be gunned down by an illegal alien gang banger, while his mother is fighting a war to defend all of us, and some people have the nerve to try and destroy my son? This makes me angry. My son is the victim! For every person that want to label my son as a hard core gang banger, I can get 100 more that will show that he was not.
Why would some people want to label my son as a gang banger? Why are some people willing to do almost anything to bring my son down? Where is the evidence to support that my son is a gang banger? Michelle Hansee didn't have evidence to prove that he was a gang banger. A spiderman back pack and a belt? I'm not even a lawyer and I know you need more then this.
So where is the evidence?! A Myspace page? I see a picture of my son on myspace making the peace sign...and some words that you say...he said? Please, give me a damn break. Now my son is a hardcore gang banger? Because of a myspace page? Are you kidding me? This is similiar to the picture when Obama was oversees and had on a certain garment. Some people tried to label him as a Muslim. Some people are protecting illegal alien gang bangers and they need my son to be a gang member in order to help their case. But he wasn't! He was and is, innocent!
The person arrested for killing my son is an illegal alien gang banger. A Documented illegal alien, and a documented gang banger. So where is the evidence? Well let's see, "he was release from jail on March 1, 2008 on gun charges. He had prior arrests before March 1, 2008. It is a known fact that he was not born in the United States and he's in the gang database". We all know he wasn't a boy scout. Why doesn't this make you angry? Why would this make you want to smear my son? Are you out killing people too? Are you an illegal alien gang banger? What's up with you?
Twenty eight hours after Pedro Espinoza was released from jail, he's seen in my neighborhood and now my son is dead. Even if my son wrote the words on myspace, where is the proof that Pedro Espinosa saw this? All he saw was a black kid walking. I continue to repeat, why are you trying to convict my son? Why are you defending illegal alien gang bangers? Could it be that you are illegal. Could it be that you are trying to smear my son because you support Special Order 40? Could it be that you are trying to smear my son because you don't want to see Jamiel's law passed? Could it be that you are a gang banger or a gang banger wannabe?
There are people that want to classify all black kids as gang bangers. We're not going to let this happen! The Community will not let this happen! To any parent reading this, if anyone tries to make your child out to be a gang banger and you know that they are not, please speak up! Don't let the system or anyone else try and smear your child! Especially when you child is not able to defend themselves. We will always defend the honor of my beloved son, Jamiel Andre' Shaw, II!
The fact is, my son was born at California Hospital. He was an American Citizen. He was raised in Los Angeles, California. He went to school in the neighborhood. He played sports all over the State. He is a documented athlete. His mother was in the Army fighting a war! I was home taking care of him. His brother loves him very much! His family love and miss him dearly! He was loved by many! My son was gunned down and shot to death! He is an INNOCENT VICTIM. He was gunned down three doors from home. He played on the very street where an illegal gang banger killed him. He was murdered!
This was a HATE CRIME! Anyone trying to bring my son down is someone that is not ready for the facts or the truth. The evidence will prove this and the facts will come out.
There are people that support Special Order 40 and some people don't want Jamiel's Law to pass. Is this why they want to discredit my son? Could this be why they attact Walter Moore and Michael Higby and all of the other people that speak out against illegal immigration? Why are people trying so hard to make my son a gang banger? This is an important question.
Whoever want's to find evidence on my son should talk with the Gang Intervention Unit at LAPD. You should talk with Gang Intervention Specialists. My son was not in a gang database. My son was never arrested. My son was killed while he was on his way home. He was walking and talking on the telephone. He is innocent!
If you have the evidence to prove that my son was a gang banger, then call Pedro Espinoza's defense team and see if they will hire you. Until then, shut the hell up!
Jamiel Sr.
Labels: Jamiel Shaw, jamiel shaw sr., special order 40, walter moore
Posted by Michael Higby @ 5/12/2008 02:32:00 PM
35 Comments:
How could someone bash a dead child and feel good about what they are writing, i only now of one sick individual that would stoop so low.
I am glad you responded to this coward who writes this trash.
I understand the pain Mr. Shaw feels. But he needs to know that there are many parents who have no idea what their kids are up to and yes there are many who are in denial. I wouldn't tend to believe the stuff out there however Alex Alonso is considered an expert in gang activity. This doesn't have anything to do with Special Orde 40 cause many people in this city support going after illegal gang members.
is there any proof he was in a gang, if not than don't even speculate when it comes to a dead child what is the point in that.
JM at streat hassle looks like he took down his comment section, even he was ashmed of the things don quixote wrote.
Don't want to change the subject but I almost fell out of my chair when I saw these figures. Jimmy Blackman makes $142,0000, Lisa Sarno makes $134,000, the idiot Jeff Carr who has no experience knowing about gangs...
MAYOR CH ADMIN ASST TO MAYOR SARNO,LISA W $124,758.00
MAYOR CH LEGISLATIVE REP SEELEY,JAMES FREHSEE $150,148.08
MAYOR CH OF STAFF MAYOR KRAMER,ROBIN M $163,678.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR CORTINES,RAMON CURTIS $110,897.86
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR SUTLEY,NANCY HELEN $124,760.09
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR ALIKHAN,ARIF $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR ALVAREZ,DIEGO ALFONSO $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR CHOI,SALLY $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR CLEGG,SEAN MICHAEL $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR DE LA VEGA,JAIME T $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR FRANK,LAURENCE BRADLEY $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR OVROM,ROBERT RAYMOND $138,622.32
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR SAENZ,THOMAS A $139,060.80
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR BLACKMAN,JAMES ALAN $142,443.36
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR CARR,JEFFREY DARREN $142,443.36
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR HISSERICH,HELMI ANN $146,347.92
MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR GRUNFELD,DANIEL $154,512.00
Too bad I was ready to publish my comment when the lights went out at street hassle. Not verbatim it read that DQ is of a generation of Chicanos that has always been at odds with Blacks. I won't speculate as to why that is, only believe that it is so. I've seen it in some of CA's finest dope houses and dungeons. They won't share a cigarette or a bottle. I'm talking about your Baby Boomer offenders, the Gray Banger type/ old school/ Viva La Raza/ Venceremos type/down with the varrio/ carnals pretty much view the others as (dare I say?) inferior.. Without being judgemental, and verifying my statement's validity I give you DQ. He'll spend a week now denying that he initiated the smut regarding Jamiel Shaw, but I'm pretty sure we saw it in Technicolor. It was NOT cool.. Oops, that was judgemental..
PERSONNEL ASST GM PERSONNEL DEPT CHANG,ANGELA F $154,324.08
PERSONNEL ASST GM PERSONNEL DEPT SOSA,GLORIA ROMONA $154,324.08
COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE ANALYST V KEOTAHIAN,AVAK $146,180.88
COUNCIL COUNCIL AIDE VII BARTELS,CLAIRE THOMPSON $144,468.72
COUNCIL COUNCIL AIDE VII BONPUA,CHARMETTE PIOQUINTO $144,468.72
COUNCIL COUNCIL AIDE VII CORNEJO,JOSE CAMPOS $144,468.72
COUNCIL COUNCIL AIDE VII ENGLANDER,MITCHELL $144,468.72
COUNCIL COUNCIL AIDE VII PARKS,BERNARD CLINTON $144,468.72
AIDES FOR OVER 100K
I WISH I WORKED FOR THE CITY!
that fool brought shame to j.m's blog, i hope that is the last we will see of him.
Mayor Sam allows many people to bash other people on this blog. There is absolutely no proof of any of the libelous things they post, yet Higby allows it, has allowed it for years. One of those people is also a victim. The only difference is that the individual is not dead or black. Even if the person were dead, Higby would still allow people to attack them dishonestly because they're not a "celebrity" victim like Jamiel here. Higby wants to look cool by protecting a dead black celebrity victim. He doesn't give a hoot about anyone in actuality or he would protect everyone who is falsely accused of crap.
What about protecting the rest of the people on this blog? or do you only care about dead black people? I really can't wait for the day when Higby gets a taste of his own medicine.
Its a shame that Jamiel Sr would even have to respond to such things when still mourning his son.Its not about black or brown any tool we can use to get rid of gang members i am with, this person who wrote those things is the racist and it shows.
Shocking that there are soooo many council aides making over $100,000 and all those mayor aides making over $100,000. These idiots don't work for us and make more then police officers who risk their lives everyday. This is total bullshit. These salaries are outrageous. How can we find out how much the Mayor's budget has increased since Hahn left office?
here you go folks, here's the city payroll database so you can see the waste of our tax dollars on idiots who don't work.
http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/citypayroll/
If my daddy writes you a letter, will you not allow anything negative to be posted about me here? Or is this something that you only do for dead local celebs? Let's not discriminate here. Who is fair game for nasty libel? Whites? People who are not dead yet? People who pay you for ads and blog work? What will it take to get you to stop posting lies about innocent people? Money? An exclusive interview with the dead victims dad? You can interview my dad. He'll tell you I'm innocent. Too bad I'm not a dead black local celeb.
So Bernie Parks, Jr. is making almost $150K to spin for his father. Nice.
Which district are all the other council aides in, who make that much? My local field deputy who's very helpful and nice makes under $40K, and her senior Field Deputies make only %60K, all reasonable. Are these salaries set by district, to allow a couple of senior Chiefs of Staff to make that much, or does it vary?
Dep. Mayor Larry Frank is well worth the $139K he gets -- he's the face of City Hall to a lot of NC's, is usually called "affable," and gives great interviews. In private, I've found him willing to be honest about issues and to listen, not a total shill. Sally Choi seems pretty good, too. Dep. Mayor Cortines who's doing heavy lifting at LAUSD makes even less, while Matt Szabo only makes $100K, not that bad relative to the others.
The Daily News quotes the new Dep. Mayor for Ecnonic Development, Bud someone -- who's taken a pay hit to come to City -- says when he used to manage the CRA, there were at least a dozen people making over $100K, "and I don't even know what they did."
The CRA throws money around like water, including to contractors who never had the skill or materials to do a job in the first place -- like the ones who tore up a sidewalk in Zine's CD, then had to bury the mess with tar after taking $300 for nothing, and now a real contractor is sought.
There are over 200 people at LAWA who make over $100K. So stop just looking for low-lying fruit, people; look at the individuals and the even more wasteful, out of sight depts. like CRA and Housing.
AND you could get rid of a lot of morons in Planning, starting with Mike Woo, who advocates high-density housing with NO parking spots, to intentionally make traffic and parking so bad people will have to take mass transit -- which of course, is so skeletal his idea should have him committed to the loony bin.
Shaw is wrong about one thing: This was NOT a hate crime, Jamiel was targeted because Espinoza thought he was in the rival P Stone Bloods based on his belt and backpack, a naive gesture. But the DA never said he WAS a gang member, just that Espinoza's defense could and would argue he was.
As for this gang "expert" Alex Alonso that's gaining cred all over, his claim that a mere 5% of Hispanic gangs are made up of illegals is clearly false, his own attempt to whitewash his former homies. Diane Feinstein's 03 report puts them at 60% of gangs, especially the most vicious ones like 18th St., and illegals make up 1/3 of those in jail.
What about the cocaine addict Mike Hernandez making $120,000 were a lot of these salaries raised after Antonio got in office. I can't believe Lisa Sarno listed as an Admini. Assistant is making $134,000. These are city employees and they want to raise our taxes when these losers are making this much money. What's going to happen is all the council aides can now compare who is making what and let see the wars start
I also noticed Joe Mailander took down his comment section. There was only ONE person posting comment after comment saying Jamiel Shaw was a gang member.
Don Quixote is the old cholo racist who was posting every single negative comment about Jamiel Shaw at Joe Mailanders blog.
I warned you all about the old blow-hard fool (Don BeasCulo) when he first showed up on this blog.
Don BeasCulo was previously on a gang blog wrting about how sureno cholos are honorable and that blacks (mayates and changos) are lazy, stupid and other stupid KKK hate. He also was commenting with many names talking and praising himself.
Well now you know why others were always counter-attacking Don BeasCulo, he is a sick, sick, disgusting person.
http://inthehat.blogspot.com/
Don BeasaCulo used many names, Santiago, Drinking with Tony, Mustang Sally, Conchita, Jim, Marty, Prof Irwin Corey and others, he is a lonely old fool.
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donquixotephobia in it's chronic stage
I'm sorry for his pain, but Jamiel Shaw Sr. has gotten more divisive with each bit of information that has been published, much of which I personally believe. Mr. Shaw's comments on John and Ken about Alex Alonso writing that article because he's "Puerto Rican" were uncalled for. And for a blog that purports to advance "free speech" your admission that you and JM are censoring comments falls short of the first amendment by a mile on this story. My sense is that John and Ken are now getting closer to the truth.
It's ironic that these liberals who talk about diversity are on there making Anti-Black comments. Or should I say just one liberal?
Don Quackers writes ...
"donquixotephobia in it's chronic stage"
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Don BeasaCulo we all know you wanted to smear Kamiel Shaw because you are angry that anybody would want to deport an illegal alien, even if he is a murderous cholo. Go back and wait for Wally at InTheHAt, you have worn out your welcome here and Joe's blog.
How does it feel now that your "buddy" Joe Mailander kicked your racist ass off of his blog as well. Say goodbye Don BeasCulo. hoody hoo !
It is unfortunate but true that numerous teens not affiliated with gangs are killed very year by gang members. Most of the teens are black or hispanic. I personally have read several police reports in which some thug walks or drives up to some unsuspecting teen and ask where they are from?
Now there is no good answer to this question. The gang member already knows they are not from their own neighborhood or gang. Usually the thugs know their not even in the gang. A gang member approached in the fashion knows exactly what comes next. Regardless of what he says he is going to be attacked. Most likely he will be shot at. He either fights back or runs.
Some street wise victims run but many not so street wise victims do not. They are usually murdered.
I don't know if Jamiel was a gang member or not but to these thugs it does not really matter.
I SUPPORT SPECIAL ORDER 40
SORRY ABOUT THE LOST SON
DUDE.
FOR THAT LAST TIME: THERE IS NO FIRST AMENDMENT ON A BLOG.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CENSORING YOUR SPEECH.
THATS IT.
Shaw Sr. must have hit some very raw nerves here. There is something going on behind the scenes with this whole special order 40 deal, cause it just doesn't make any logical sense. Alonzo's "article" was nothing more, but a hit piece. Does the Mexican Mafia have something on these politicians? Something that would force them to do damn near anything to prevent ILLEGAL ALIEN GANGBANGERS from being deported.
Now, the illegal alien mortgage scandal is starting to bubble to the surface. I feel something BIG is coming, that will affect the entire illegal immigration issue on both sides in a profound way.
Anonymous said...
DUDE.
FOR THAT LAST TIME: THERE IS NO FIRST AMENDMENT ON A BLOG.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CENSORING YOUR SPEECH.
THATS IT.
May 12, 2008 8:06 PM
Then Higby needs to stop pretending there is. Oh yea, he already did.
What Latino politician said "We're going to put an end to mayates in Los Angeles?"
LA Times, AP and CBS are all working on the story that Jamiel Shaw was killed because he was tied to the Bloods. Everyone's got it now. Then what? You defend this story, and your immigrant hating, to the shrinking audience of people who believe your spin in the hard light of the facts? Because this is the death rattle for Mayor Sam the fringe of the fringe of the nuts who just don't care about facts.
Yeah there is ONE liberal in LA and everyone else thinks you're telling the whole truth.
Mayor Sam I believe we are watching Don Quackers' final meltdown.
Don Quackers got so bonkers that even Mailander had to blog down comments. That's it Don or may we call you Wally or Tim?
Who are Wally and Tim? And do you know for sure why JM closed down his blog because I saw nothing there that would cause offense nor a word from JM. Every thread is gone even about Lynn. So how are you blaming any person when all the comments are gone?
its obvious don quixote is the one posting these comments who else uses donquixotphobia.there is no point in defending your actions don they where disgusting.
http://www.myspace.com/334880671
Since we are posting link after link to Jamiel Shaw myspace account.
I found many sites from WS-18th street gang members. (this is the gang illegal alien cholo and muder suspect Pedro Espinoza is from).
I notice many of the 18th street gang members have mexican flags and other mention of mexico. It looks like a very large percentage of 18th street gang members are from mexico.
Notice the gang members write
DIES18CHO or DIESIOCHO 18 in spanish, it sure looks like many are spanish speaking and not American citizens.
Pedro Espinoza was know as "Darky", I will searching for his myspace account.
http://www.myspace.com/18_rider
http://www.myspace.com/231041898
http://www.myspace.com/251214276
check this video out.. jamiel shaw was "innocent" huh.
sike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_5_bZauKWs
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