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Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Justice Today for Jamiel?

(Editor's Note: I don't normally repeat posts, but this article which we published on Sunday is about an important and timely issue today. Therefore we're repeating it for those who may not have seen it.)

When Walter Moore first introduced Jamiel's Law, the usual third and fourth floor spin chamber (and their wannabe friends) dum dums put keyboards in motion to make the racist claim that there was no way that an African-American family who lost their teenage son to a criminal illegal alien gang banger was going to join with a White man to oppose the City's controversial Special Order40 policy at least against criminal illegal aliens, most of whom prey on black and brown neighborhoods.

They couldn't have been more wrong.

Last week, the parents of Jamiel Shaw, Jamiel Sr. and Anita, appeared with Moore on KABC's McIntyre in the Morning program to voice their support for Jamiel's Law. Since then there have been more appearances on all of the talk radio programs of record such as KRLA's Kevin James and KFI's Bill Handel.

Many local pols are not sure what to think about Jamiel's Law nor is it even certain they "get it." It's clear that many do not understand the depth of the feeling on the issue in the community. Ben Golombek, Communications Deputy for Councilwoman Wendy Greuel, reportedly spoke with one of our tipsters and said, "Who is Walter Moore? He is not elected to any post. He can not introduce legislation." (To see how patently absurd that statement is, view the history of "Megan's Law" which was not initiated by any elected officials.)

In my view, the reason for the hyper-activity out of Camp Spin-a-Raigosa and associated parties is there is a hugh fear of the fact that 1) African Americans are speaking up against Special Order 40 and 2) That Walter Moore is gaining considerable additional traction for his Mayoral campaign with this issue, and is even beginning to percolate beyond the blog-LA-sphere. Both notions scare the bejesus out of the Mayor.

Number 1 is particularly concerning. Its part of this liberal attitude, which is both hypocritical and racist at the same time, that minorities, particularly African Americans owe their complete and full allegiance to the Democratic party and liberal orthodoxy. Any deviation by an African American is considered treason and grounds for you to become the target of what would be considered absolutely a racist attack if it came from a conservative Caucasian. The Democrats and Liberals, supposedly the party of diversity and tolerance, are anything but when it comes to deviation from the lock step party line. There is no "Big Tent" within the Donkey party. We even see this with the attacks on minorities and women who do not support Hillary Clinton from the New York Senator, her husband the former philandering President and their minions such as James Carville.

Getting back to the Shaws, indeed, any thought they are not on board with the push for Jamiel's Law is wiped out by the fact that the Shaws are going to speak in favor of Jamiel's Law at Tuesday's Clowncil meeting. They will appear at City Hall to give their full support to Jamiel's law and are encouraging the community to join them.


Please help us change the law. As you know, our son, Jamiel A. Shaw,II was murdered on March 2, 2008. Now we are trying to fight back, but we need your help!

On April 8, 2008, at 10:00 a.m., The Shaw Family will be going to City Hall to speak to the Council Members about 'JamielsLaw'. We are asking you to please visit the website, 'JamielsLaw.com'. If you agree with JamielsLaw, we are asking you to support us and join us!!


Forget DWP or anything else going on. This is the number one political problem for Antonio Villaraigosa right now. The usual team will be going full force to put a stop to it. Let's hope that Walter Moore, the Shaws and their supporters go all the way. A move to help prevent the death of innocent teenagers is too important to let the usual LA politics quash it.

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65 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'll bet at least one city council member today will invoke "hard-working immigrants" or supposed "anti-immigrant rhetoric" to give, in effect, a big F-YOU to the Shaws.

April 08, 2008 2:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bravo for Walter and the Shaw family. Look at history and many of these type of laws were introduced by families of victims or victims themselves. There was a true story on Lifetime this weekend of a domestic violence victim who helped change the law. What about the Smart girl who was killed and the other little girl who's mother lobbied for a law two years ago and it was changed. Wish I could be at council but you are right Mayor Sam, people are sick of these illegals killing innocent people and our politicans sit and do nor say a damn thing. Its almost as if its ok with them. I think this proposed law will gain steam because of all the illegals in this country who have taken advantaged of all the free services and the blight they have cause with their damn kids. Watch the spinners come out and call us racist. NO idiots, we're legal, educated Americans of Mexican decent tired of the illegals

April 08, 2008 6:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just in time for peaceful May day protests, I'd hate to be LAPD.

April 08, 2008 7:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whadda ya mean "we" Kimosabe!




NO idiots, we're legal, educated Americans of Mexican decent tired of the illegals

The anti Mexican becomes a "Mexican", but just for a minute!

April 08, 2008 7:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, 2:50, you're absolutely right.

But the one thing that strikes fear in Councilmembers more than Latinos showing up at City Hall, is a bunch of angry blacks. That's because blacks are more likely to cry racism than the Latinos will. And that scares Councilmembers.

Blacks also vote with greater frequency than Latinos (the ones who actually HAVE the right to vote!).

Whatever the case, huzzahs for Walter Moore! I'd sacrifice my left tit for him to be Mayor.

April 08, 2008 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Time for the Blacks to play their race card.

April 08, 2008 8:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The scummy LATimes rides on Jamiel's death, which is not todays news but is still placed website front page, yet buries the Jamiel's law issue, which is certainly today's news. One sentence, at the end of the article, describes the Shaws speaking before the City Council today. This is called burying the news.
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-banks8apr08,1,3049119.column

April 08, 2008 8:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Breaking news this a.m.

Haven't been able to get all the details yet, but you can bet this one will be HUGE! Something happened in City Terrace last night involving a cab driver taking 2 women home...they said they had no money, but would give him cash when they got home. As they arrived at the residence, a male ran out with a knife...and this is where the details are sketchy. End result...2 dead.

CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL!!! Gangs have NO FEAR of cops or anyone else! There is only one solution: BRING IN THE MILITARY AND GO HOUSE TO HOUSE! ARREST THEM AND THROW THEM IN PRISON FOR 30 YEARS OR MORE!!! WE NEED A FACILITY LIKE THE OLD ALCATRAZ...

PUT THE FEAR OF GOD INTO THEIR ROTTEN BODIES...DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THESE PUNKS...LOCK THEIR UGLY ASSES UP AND THROW THE KEYS AWAY!

WE NEED TO MARCH EN MASSE TO VILLAR AND BRATTON'S OFFICE...WE NEED TO PHYSICALLY OUST THEM FROM THEIR TAXPAYER FUNDED OAK PAN
ELED OFFICES AND THROW THEIR ASSES ON THE STREET!

SET A DATE...AND LET'S ROLL...TO CITY HALL!!!!

April 08, 2008 8:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There's another breaking news story from City Terrace...don't have all the details...but it involves a taxi driver and 2 passengers...and a male friend...bottom line TWO DEAD!

LA IS OUT OF CONTROL! THE GANGS HAVE NO FEAR OF COPS OR ANYONE ELSE. WE HAVE TO PUT THE FEAR OF GOD BACK INTO THEIR ROTTEN SOULS...THERE'S ONLY ONE SOLUTION: BRING IN THE MILITARY AND THE TANKS AND GO DOOR TO DOOR! PULL 'EM OUT OF THEIR RAT'S NESTS AND THROW THEIR ASSES IN PRISON FOR 30 YEARS OR MORE!

WE NEED TO RE-OPEN ALCATRAZ AND PUT THEIR ASSES ON THAT ISLAND FOR LIFE.

NO MORE MONEY FOR STUPID, IDIOTIC "GANG PREVENTION" PROGRAMS"!!

ALSO, WE NEED TO MARCH EN MASSE INTO VILLAR AND BRATTON'S OAK PANELED OFFICES DOWNTOWN, AND THROW THEIR ASSES ON THE STREET! THEY ARE THE PROBLEMS NOT THE SOLUTIONS!

SET A DATE TO BRING THE FLAMING TORCHES DOWNTOWN...LET'S ROLL!

April 08, 2008 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:39, you're an idiot.

It's in the Daily News.

You didn't break anything.

The Daily News had it on their site overnight.

April 08, 2008 9:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I now understand the reason why Gang are allowed to exist.

They bring jobs to our City..
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No gangs, No Jobs. Great Job City of Los Angeles. keep the jobs coming..

April 08, 2008 9:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah when you live in a city where the dumb idiot politicans support the illegals and not the cops you can expect the gang violence going on now by the illegals. What about M13, 18th Gangsters and Huizar's favorite gang Big Hazard. The council members speak out against the cops then give the gangs the go ahead to terrorize communities. Gangs will run this city to the ground as long as cops aren't supported by the politicans and they continue to march and support the illegals like they will on May 1st.

April 08, 2008 10:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm watching city council and those bastards are completely ignorning the people speaking out on Special Issue 40. Weak, lame Garcetti keeps telling them not to shout or curse and council can listen from squawk boxes. This is without a doubt the worst group of disrespectful city council members ever in this city. They totally ignore the public and never are in their seats. I'm glad people speaking at public comment are blasting them.

April 08, 2008 10:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Asshole Alarcon states that "this is just to divide the black and Latino communities and we know where its coming from.;" Alarcon is a dumb ass illegal supporter. No, moron this is a law that should be passed to get rid of all the illegal criminals in this city killing, raping, burgularizing, stealing from innocent people. This isn't a race issue. There are thousands of Latinos who support this law. There's a big difference between a LEGAL Mexican American and ILLEGAL. Rosendahl is such an idiot he wants a meeting to have someone EXPLAIN to him what Special Issue 40 is. SHAMEFUL he doesn't know. Go look it up idiot Rosendahl.

April 08, 2008 11:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just watched the public comment at today's city council meeting. Tom LaBonge is amazing. Did you hear the guy ask if he was going to have to vote on this today? What an idiot! He doesn't even know what's going on. Someone please let him know that he will have plenty of time to figure out how his vote will affect his political career before he has to cast it!!! Unbelievable.

April 08, 2008 11:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just saw Jamiel's father speak at city hall on live-video.

He put it very simply "my son was killed by an 18th street gang member who is an illegal alien" the Jamiel's mother spoke and said "we are not just going to go away quietly, hell NO". The father said it was not his concern about the exact legal wording of the law, but that something needed to be done.

I hope the Shaw family find their way on to a national news program and tell their story, because the Mayor and city council are just going to ignore them.

Anything which negatively affects the illegal alien inavsion is quickly labeled as anti-latino by the mexican politicians.

I just wish the damn news would cover all these gang murders in Los Angeles so the rest of the nation can see what is happening in Los Angeles.

This family whose 6-year-old boy was shot in the head by a latino gang in Harbor Gateway, should join forces with the Shaw family.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8846709

April 08, 2008 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SHAME ON YOU ALARCON!!!!

SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 08, 2008 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Clowncilman Alarcon said:

dis is dgust t' dibide de black 'n Latino commuties 'n webuh know whehe its comigg from.

April 08, 2008 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Clowncilman Rosendim said:

What's Special Ordeh 40, duh...uh...?, duh...uh...?, duh...uh...?

April 08, 2008 11:55 AM  

Anonymous Clowncilman Labong said:

Do I habe t' bote on dis today

April 08, 2008 11:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clowncil members showed the entire nation what a bunch of morons they are not knowing what the hell is going on in their city. But they will be marching with the illegals May 1st. How much is that costing the city? Everyone should e-mail Bill O'Reilly, Larry Elder, John & Ken, and the rest to speak out on these screw ball idiots on council. Mrs. Shaw said its probably safer in Iraq then here in the US and she's got that right but those bastards on council could care less. Thanks Kevin James for putting those bastards in their place today.

April 08, 2008 12:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Was Huizar among the illegals given amnesty in 1984?

April 08, 2008 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As predicted, Alarcon jumped out of his seat to accuse the speakers of being misled by some ignorant racists and "radio talk show hosts" who are trying to spread tension between blacks and whites.

It was after that, the Jamiel Shaw's father stood up to deny he's the one creating dissention, just demanding justice for his son, who was killed by an illegal who's been in and out of jail for felonies, was a known gangmember and in the city's databanks as an 18th street member. Mr. Shaw said that Diane Feinstein's own report said that 80% of this gang were illegals.

Then Mr. Shaw burst into tears, and talked about his younger son, who's missing his older brother. (In an article eslewhere, it said the 9-year old wants to be a scientist to invent a time machine to bring back his brother Jamiel.)

Shame on you, you Zorro Marxist.

April 08, 2008 12:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon is disgusting. The least he could've done was just zip his fat piehole if all he could come up with were cheap cliches about talk radio.

April 08, 2008 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These 15 asshats have no f**king idea what's happening their own city. Huizar I can understand - he's never here, but what excuse do the other 14 have?

April 08, 2008 12:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It was after that, the Jamiel Shaw's father stood up to deny he's the one creating dissention, just demanding justice for his son, who was killed by an illegal who's been in and out of jail for felonies, was a known gangmember and in the city's databanks as an 18th street member. Mr. Shaw said that Diane Feinstein's own report said that 80% of this gang were illegals.

Then Mr. Shaw burst into tears, and talked about his younger son, who's missing his older brother. (In an article eslewhere, it said the 9-year old wants to be a scientist to invent a time machine to bring back his brother Jamiel.)"

"Was Huizar among the illegals given amnesty in 1984?

April 08, 2008 12:08 PM"

Huizar is over 30. No one has ever said when Huizar became a citizen or is a legally documnted citizen. Most say he still carries a Mexican Passport. How much you want to bet he votes against Jamiel's Law?

April 08, 2008 12:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That creep Alarcon is the one giving the adjourning motion for Charlton Heston! Saying his movies "championed the cause of justice!"

Charlton Heston would despice everything this slimy littls weasel stands for -- he'd urge citizens demanding their 2nd Amendment rights, and say that since our sleazy pro- illegal gangbanger pandering Mexican politicians like Alarcon stand up for the criminals, not the law-abiding citizens, we must raise an army and rid ourselves of this foreign scum.

As Doug McIntyre says, they're domestic, arguably even international, terrorists," since they cross country boundaries to come here and commit their crimes. Often, this is pre-meditated, a plan to take over drug dealing and terror in the Latino and increasigly, black and "anglo" neighborhoods.

April 08, 2008 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

moderate this you fat fuck.

April 08, 2008 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ye, yes show todays council members should be shown the national news for the whole country to see what a bunch of idiots we have as clowncil members.

Who is techically savvy, and can upload todays city clowncil meeting to YouTube and let's hit all the blog with the YouTube video.

April 08, 2008 12:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How pathetic that if you're not speaking on something these assholes council members like they will attack you as they did today. Rosendahl the gay liberal idiot doesn't even know what Special issue 40 is. Alarcon, the dyed haired, womanizer had the nerve to criticize the people speaking out and was WRONG. I'm glad all the media was there to see them in action being assholes. I say put it on YOUTUBE and let the rest of the country see what we in LA have to put up with. They sure as hell passed that ordinance supporting the illegals not having to show proof of valid social security card to employers but these losers could careless about the killings in our city by illegals.

April 08, 2008 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

L.A. residents slam Special Order 40, Clear Channel shakedown

by Jill Stewart
April 8, 2008 11:07 AM

Woo-whee, the testimony was riveting this morning before the Los Angeles City Council when a group of black residents pleaded with the 15 elected council members to rescind Special Order 40, the longtime local rule protecting illegal immigrants from arrest by the LAPD.

The black residents are seeking a decision by the council to enact the so-called Jamiel's Law, named after Jamiel Shaw, a promising and law-abiding 17-year-old high school student allegedly shot by an illegal immigrant, 18th Street Gang member Pedro Espinoza. The noxious Espinoza, who has a massively long rap sheet, was arrested and then released by the LAPD shortly before he allegedly murdered Jamiel.

Jamiel's family members cried openly in the ornate Council Chambers, asking the council to allow cops to check on the illegal status of people like Espinoza so they can be deported rather than released.

Council President Eric Garcetti couldn't change the subject fast enough -- to a plan to force even more obnoxious billboards on Angelenos.

It was amazing to watch Garcetti drop the Special Order 40 topic like a hot rock to move onto something much closer to the council's heart: a plan to hand another big reward to Clear Channel, which has for years defied the City Council in refusing to remove its hundreds -- and possibly thousands -- of illegal billboards now blighting Los Angeles streets.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/spot-news/la-residents-slam-special-orde/

April 08, 2008 12:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was there this morning.
Over a hundred multi-ethnic
very angry and frustrated citizens stood and shouted at a Los Angeles City Clowncil that has been deaf
and blind as well as dumb to the
facts on the ground that Los Angeles
has become the CAPITAL of a NATION
of ILLEGAL ALIENS who compose as
much as 80% of the Los Angeles GANG
population! DUH!!!!!
OUTLAW/SANCTURY CITY....That is
what mainstream America thinks
when it hears L.A. MEXICO is
doing everything it can to create
this Illegal Mexican Nation within
the borders of the USA and L.A.
City Clowncil AND the Los Angeles
Times seem to be getting their
instructions from MEXICO CITY
instead of the LEGAL CITIZENS
who now REGRET VOTING them in
OFFICE!!

April 08, 2008 12:59 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Wow this is excellent. 32 comments that are all saying something even if you totally don't like it or disagree with it.

32 comments and nary a one on Don Culos, Don Quixote farts, enemas, sharpies or chicken. Not even any submitted as far as I know.

April 08, 2008 1:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hopefully, this has started the revolution to turn over this council and mayor once and for all.

April 08, 2008 1:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam,
We warned you about Don Quackers and his many whacky cast of characters;
Santiago, Drinking With Tony, Big Betty, Mustang Sally, and etc.

Don Quackers would write comments to himself, it was pretty funny and sick at the same time. He is a sneaky chameleon who takes on many personas. But in the end, he is just a lonely blow-hard gas-bag looking for attention on the Internet.

April 08, 2008 1:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From Today's Los Angeles Times Homicide Report

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2008/04/homicide-susp-1.html#comments

Homicide suspect detained at the Mexico-U.S. border
Bell: Maria Crail, a 59-year-old Latina woman, was found dead inside her home at 7004 Corona Ave. at about 9 a.m. Wednesday, April 2. Paramedics pronounced her dead at the scene at 9:14 a.m. According to the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, officers with the Bell Police Department responded to a call of a dead person inside a home. Upon arrival, officers found Crail inside her bedroom. According to a coroner's report, Crail died from strangulation. In addition, Crail's 2000 black Mercedes Benz was missing from the garage. Homicide detectives informed Border Patrol personnel and were told that the vehicle had already crossed the border. Mexican authorities were later informed of the homicide and vehicle description. At about 11:30 a.m. Miguel Bunerostro, a 23-year-old Latino man, was detained near Mexicali, Mexico. Mexican authorities will transport Bunerostro back to the U.S., where he will be arrested on suspicion of murder

April 08, 2008 2:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Very disrespectful for Rosendahl to say that this was from a talk radio show very condensendingly. Thanks to Kevin James for pointing out in plain English the fact that council members were screwing around like they always do during the public comment. It was blacks, Latinos and whites speaking out and making some very valid points. I bet John & Ken will have a field day with this today.

April 08, 2008 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

i am just glad there gone and no more zuma dog rants to scroll through, good work mayor sam.

April 08, 2008 2:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good for Jill Stewart, showing how the Council not only washed their hands of this issue as fast as they could, after trying to make it appear that Jamiel Shaw's family were the racists, but were then too stupid to listen to those in the audience who pointed out what Jill, and any halfway educated person, can see: That ClearChannel should never have gotten the stupid city and county officials to link their kicking a few bucks to parks in the hood, with allowing it to put up more and massive billboards on the westside. WHEN it's already violating even the way, way too pro-ClearChannel deal Rocky gave them in 2006.

ClearChannel has refused to pay the city for its illegal billboards and is suing us, so the uneducated morons like Perry and Reyes have convinced the whole stupid lot of them, that the westsiders are greedy and racist. Even some idiotic woman there to support Jamiel's Law jumped on that bandwagon, without having any idea of what she was talking about.

It was SO EASY to turn the whole day into a "blacks and browns against rich whitey" day, by having the two issues follow each other.

Rosendahl, whose own CD11 is among the biggest targets of ClearChannel voted with the majority. But like posters say, he's an idiot, also didn't know what SP40 is, and always votes with his emotions.

Garcetti (WHO ever said he's smart?) leaped in with the "minority" members, and if Zine and Smith were there, even they were too stupid to vote for the law vs. ClearChannel.

Jack Weiss was the sole opponent of giving ClearChannel the victory, and spoke against it -- but in vague, legal terms. Not wanting to prejudice the pending legal case, I guess. However, some speakers made a clear case. But were ignored and falsely turned into the enemy. The pro-Jamiel's law faction got swept into this issue by their naivity.

Jill Stewart is as stunned by the sheer stupidity of the Council as I am. Or, shall we say "craftiness" in turning it into a blacks/browns vs. westside/Valley whites, issue?

April 08, 2008 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gee wonder if these two girls were illegal. This is the housing area where Big Hazard terrorizes residents and today Huizar is supporting them having a resource fair in Ramona Gardens.

....Two women allegedly involved in a violent dispute with a cab driver were killed today when the taxi crashed in the City Terrace area, police said...The cab driver was treated at a hospital for apparent stab wounds he suffered during the incident and was listed in stable condition, Sands said.

According to a preliminary investigation, the women had taken a cab ride to the Ramona Gardens housing project in the city of Los Angeles, where the taxi stopped at a building. ..Suddenly, a man with a gun accosted the cab driver, who sped off with the women still inside the vehicle...one or both women then stabbed the cabbie, and the vehicle crashed in an unincorporated area of the county in the City Terrace area, Sands said.

April 08, 2008 3:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait a minute, didn't rocky's office try and block Daily News from getting the list of all the Billboards in the city Clear Channel have and lost that battle? I thought I had seen everything these idiot council people do but every meeting it gets worst and worst. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. They are a bunch of uneducated, selfish arrogant losers. No one respects them and if you notice they don't get the grand entrance at meetings like they use to. People see them walk in and everyone starts gossiping and snickering.

April 08, 2008 4:48 PM  

Anonymous groucho said:

Anon said:
moderate this you fat f***.

Excellent! You haven't lost your humor, Higby...

April 08, 2008 4:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hadn't quite caught the political drift of your blog...until now. Until the Shaw family becomes as incensed and outraged about gang violence arising within their own African-American community, and perpetuated against anyone of any color, then I find it cynical and sad that they are jumping on the bandwagon of anti-immigrant legislation. I think they are being manipulated by that quack who thinks he is running for mayor.

April 08, 2008 4:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Read the bullshit the clowns in council want to pass. They want to protect MOVIE STARS from photographers. Are they out of their fu--king minds? Hell nooooo this shouldn't pass. This is dumb ass Zine who started this crap. Everyone e-mail your idiot council person and tell them HELLL NOOOO on this ordinance to protect movie star assholes who have nothing better to do then go out and get the attention they crave. Its only the depressed losers like Britney and Paris who do that crap. Other veteran movie stars no better and always go through the back doors.

April 08, 2008 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That quack was nowhere to be found at council today. He sent the wife. Mrs Moore said she learned all about gangs from having been a juror two years ago. How interesting. Two years ago. Was it Black gangs, Nazi gangs, or Brown gangs? Must have been all 3 on trial.

It probably didn't come up in that trial that the MS 13s organized into the most murderous gang in the world right after we deported them.

Mrs Moore also spoke about the "11 year old who was killed picking lemons." That kid obviously meant a lot to her since she didn't say his name and goofed up his age, which was 14.

The Shaws didn't back Jamiel's Law in the way the haters on this blog had hoped. They said their only mission was to target the 18 street gang. Someone gave them less than half the information.

Mr Shaw was clear that if people didn't like Jamiel's Law they should work together for something else and that he loved his Latino neighbors. Let's just say there didn't appear to be any love loss between the Shaws and Wacko. And you probably should stop using this family as the poster children for all this fine blogging bigotry on this KKK sheet party also known as the Mayor Sam comments section. Call it a prediction, the African American community will move away from Jamiel's Law and Wacko.

Especially, when they find out more about Wacko's past politicial "mishaps" and more about this racially charged law that has little hope of preventing gang crime.

April 08, 2008 5:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:48: Rocky tried to block L A Weekly, not the Daily News, from getting the list. Jill Stewart and Chrisine Pellicek have been posting stories -- so has the Times, somewhat, with David Zahniser's L A Now blog, and Patt Morrison's Op Ed.

4:58: No one is disputing there are problems in the black hood, but as one speaker said, "we have enough gang problems already without importing gangbangers and criminals from foreign countries."

Especially when all these gangs, like 18th St., MS13, Florencia 13, etc. answer to LaEme the Mexican mafia, whose motto is to cleanse the streets for "La Raza," even if means killing the blacks "on their turf." Some 80% of mamy of these gangs are illegals.

But I do agree with you that one reason black gangs have perpetuated so long, is the black leaders blame whites for all their problems, instead of taking personal responsibility. That's why it was so easy for the minorities on the council, with the naive support of the white liberals and nitwits, to turn this into a black and brown vs. "greedy whitey" issue. Just the sort of deflection that's made it impossible to deal with the problem.

April 08, 2008 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks Mayor Sam, all 40 comments are in agreement with you, that must mean your right.
Now get a rope and lets find some Mexicans!

April 08, 2008 6:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Has anyone looked into filing suits under the RICO Act against the City Government itself? I'm not a lawyer, but do a Google search on it and see what you find. It seems it can be used in civil matters as well as criminal cases, most people (including myself) believe(d) it's only for the prosecution of organized crime.

It only requires a "pattern" of violations by a "group". "Pattern" seems to be defined as two violations in a 10-year period. The articles indicate that things as simple as a company filing two SLAPP suits in a 10-year period is enough to qualify. Several suits have been filed against the RIAA, against companies that hired illegal aliens, and even against Home Owners Associations filed by the local homeowners.

I would think that the levying of illegal taxes and fees, creating misleading ballot measures, the shutting down of the Venice Beach street vendors, etc. might qualify, and they have already been, or may be, judged illegal here. Nothing that particularly relates to Jamiel's Law, but that's not the really point. It's just something that might set the Federal wheels in motion.

April 08, 2008 6:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Victim's Kin Want L A to Hunt Illegal Immigrant Gangs," is the title of the Daily News story. With 17 comments as of now, and not one says "Let's keep the illegal gangbangers in this country to murder more people, because saying we should send them back to their own countries is racist."

Only one saying that, is this last poster who shills for Alarcon, Reyes, Huizar, Gil Cedillo and the other crooks who stay in office only by pandering to the illegals, promising them they'll continue to suck the money out of whitey and those greedy Asians and Jews to pay the billions they're costing us. NOT counting the cost of lives.

No, Jamiel Shaw, Sr., did NOT back off identifying and deporting illegals -- but that slimy weasel Alarcon jumped out (against the Brown Act, possibly subjecting the city to a lawsuit) to attack those present as being ignoramuses misled by racists and "talk show hosts."

Shame on weasel Alarcon for trying to cut the Shaw family off at the pass, calling them racist and stupid before they opened their mouths.

And like someone said, unbelievable that that greasy weasel, who hated Charlton Heston and everything he stood for, should stand up to give the "Adjourning Motion" in his name as someone whose films were about "social justice."

Heston is turning in his grave, and would tell us this is exactly the reason he supported the NRA and 2nd Amendment: Because weasels like Alarcon support the "right of illegal criminals" over the rights of decent citizens, the citizens must exercise their 2nd Amendment rights and rid outselves of these international terrorists who've taken over our streets and Mexican politicians -- just like in Mexico and Central America and Columbia.

The L A Times has a couple of opem blogs on Jamiel Shaw's Law, too: almost all like here on Mayor Sam and MORE so, except a couple of Mechista/ La Raza types who demand that "they" take "their" country back, because California and the West doesn't belong to the "gringos and anglos." The stuff Alarcon, Reyes, Huizar, Cedillo and the rest believe in their hearts. The Mayor can be sure, he isn't going to help himself by turning a blind eye to this, or trying to turn minorities (the real Majority) against whites and Asians and legal immigrants. He's GOT to finally do the right thing.

April 08, 2008 6:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No doubt with you spinning ad nauseum 6:49 all the city blogs look like this today.

April 08, 2008 7:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:49 The Militia said..
"the citizens must exercise their 2nd Amendment rights and rid outselves of these international terrorists."

Are you a Rollin' 60s or a Bounty Hunter looking to reclaim some turf with this hating, hater? Thats what you sound like, as putrid as the gangs.

April 08, 2008 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Kevin James....YOU ARE MY HERO!!!

I had tears in my eyes watching you today! For the first time in history, we have our voice...it's Kevin!!!

I have been to two Council mtgs, and I have NEVER seen such arrogant, disinterested, bored, assholes in my life! They are destroying our city, and we have to throw them OUT!

KEVIN...PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...

RUN FOR MAYOR! YOU CAN DO IT!!!

YOU WILL WIN!!!

April 08, 2008 9:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The problem with all of this fear mongering against immigrants is that you're lumping all Latinos in with gang members, and don't say you're not. There are good and bad in all groups and your foaming at the mouth is really scary. You all remind me of villagers with their pitchforks. Run for the hills!!

April 08, 2008 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Say it loud 6:49 !

At least here at Mayor Sam's

April 08, 2008 10:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:26,
Poor Don Quackers now has post "anony-mousa" in support illegal alien gang members. lol

April 08, 2008 10:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7o:17: Do you ever rest? Are you one of those by-the-piece sweatshop blog workers? What, are you best friends and closest relatives illegal gangbangers with a rap sheet? Afraid the next time, they'll be deported? That's what you sound like.

Damn right, that's what the NRA and Charlton Heston think, those are the international terrorists who the 2nd Amendment is for: to raise a people's militia against a foreign invasion. Who more deserving that terrorists who come here to murder, push drugs on our people, especially little kids and the unemployed in the African- American hoods, and sometimes it's fun to give some rich dudes bad Ecstacy, see what happens. Above all, it's such fun to come to American and kill anyone you want in the street in front of their house -- even back home in Mexico or Salvador, you couldn't get away with that.

Hey, I know: let's send our white trash from the illiterate faction of the KKK to Mexico, let them take over YOUR streets, deal drugs to your muchachos and your little hermanos, kill people in the streets for fun.

Hey, Mechista, what do you think would happen if we sent millions of them? Would the Mexico City Council be screaming "racist" at the Mexicans wanting to deport them and running to march with the illegals in the streets? Hey, Mechista, what do you think? Fair exchange?

April 08, 2008 10:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Shaw family was on Doug McIntyre, this has been in other papers and blogs... It's like the Times deliberately wanted to bury this until it's too late to get people to go downtown and participate.

The fact that the media like this would be complicit with Hispanic politicians like Gil Cedillo, local Mexican Councilmen like Alarcon/Reyes/Huizar/Cardenas, who all deny that there is anything even "illegal" in the term "illegal immigrants," EVEN when it comes to the vicious criminals like Espinoza -- who killed Shaw the day after he got out of one of many jail terms for felony gun possession, was never deported because the cops arent "allowed" to even ask for status -- they not only don't do anything, but deny that illegal criminals are even a serious problem!

Kudos to the Times for Sam Quinones' excellent feature last week on Drew Street/ Glassell Park (3/30) which everyone should read -- Maria Chata Leon, an illegal who came here in 85, has 13 kids on welfare, all of whom became criminal gangbangers like herself (everything from drugs to assault weapons to smuggling in other illegal immigrants to violence against others, and acting as an army against the cops) -- yet, never served time. At one point she had 6 kids under ten in her home while dealing drugs, with an assault weapon: but NO TIME whereas a middle class person who slaps a bratty kid, is hauled off by social services.

Coddling illegals who abuse kids is another part of the problem, why they grow uip this way. But we're sick of US paying for all the vastly expensive social services to try to turn these "families" into funcitonal ones, that will never happen anyway. We have neglected the African-Americans who were starting to get their Title I and other funding and services since the 60's -- but they're so outnumbered by these vicious foreigners, that they're not only neglected, but being actively targeted by illegal hispanic gangs.

Every gang worker knows that all these gangs answer to LaEME, the Mexican Mafia, and it's part of their marching orders to push out and kill if need be, blacks from "their territories." Which now include the whole city. While there are gangs who aren't affiliated with LaEme or illegal gangs, these are the very most vicious ones, as law enforcement from here to Salvador to Mexico knows -- they don't want their own "citizens" back, want us to keep them forever. Too bad.

To deny racial violence when it's part of their code, is denying reality. As a result, these gangs not only prey on illegals and others in their own communiites, but are now killing and shooting everywhere: Holllywood, NOHO, Van Nuys, even moving into West L A and the West Valley. I don't see how the Mexican politicians can claim it's "racist" to rid ourselves of foreign urban terrorists, or think they'll benefit from supporting them. There can be NO excuse for this.

The media must be part of the dialogue, to discuss the pros and cons of SP40 and whether it works as the cops and Council claim it does: it was put into place in 1979when there were very few illegals.

NOW as I watch a life feed from City Council: Richard Alarcon is, true to form, denouncing those present to advocate for Jamiel's Law as influenced by certain racists and "radio talk show hosts" who promote ignorance and dissention between black and brown communities. Jamiel Shaw's father denies that HE's the one creating tension: it's the lack of enforcement of the laws that's doing it.

April 08, 2008 11:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No doubt with you spinning ad nauseum 6:49 all the city blogs look like this today.

********************

That's right Sr. Quackers I am doing so much spinning of this story it's making national news, I will even make your illegal pandering head spin until your dizzy.

I will bet the heads of the Mayor, Reyes, Huizar, and Alarcon will also be spinning. hasta la vista baby, si se puede !

April 09, 2008 12:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon showed what a little dick he has and no brains. Yeah, Ricky blame the messenger you idiot!! Blogs are slamming him and the rest of the losers in council. The Shaw may only want illegal gang bangers but legal Latinos want all the damn illegals who have ruined this city deported. Check all their fraud documents cause we all know they STEAl social security numbers to work. Look at downtown LA and MacArthur Park area to see the shit and trash they bring, these people live like PIGS. They are filthy dirty scum that are not educated. They are turning LA into Tijuana. We need to start a movement.

April 09, 2008 6:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I found a couple of pictures of the low-life cholo pedro espinoza who executed Jamiel Shaw.

http://pixlinked.com/files/12900.jpg

http://PixLinked.com/files/12903.jpg

April 09, 2008 6:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:44, There's already a movement for you, just make or buy yourself a pointy white hat. You can start by burning cross's on peoples lawns.

ps, I would lose the little dick comments though, might be too insightful

April 09, 2008 7:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"just make or buy yourself a pointy white hat. You can start by burning cross's on peoples lawns."

************************

Who could the anony-mousa, menudo mamando mechista be who has to call everybody who wants to enforce immigration laws a KKKer?

Next he will be talking about Hitler, the menudo mechista, sure is getting annoyed with all the bad-press the cholos are getting, it sure makes him mad. He should reading an Aztlan blog, to make him happy.

April 09, 2008 7:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:57 A.M. Thanks for posting the pix of the monster! What a piece of human excrement...what an evil looking animal!

Unfortunately, there are so many of them who look like this beast around LA...just their looks will scare the shit of you! Can you imagine giving 'amnesty' to these animals??? Wow!

Actually, they are so violent and dangerous that they really don't belong on this earth...they should all be eliminated. Why spend one dime on prison...just eliminate them!

April 09, 2008 8:08 AM  

Blogger AnonymusC said:

Why don't they just save time and come out openly that the ILLEGAL criminals deserve protection, screw the legals.
I hope that the Shaw family will sue the city for their loss.
The mayor and his puppy dog police chief have no intentions to work on behalf of the legals. It is all so clear.
AnonymusC

April 09, 2008 11:28 AM  

Blogger Gary Fouse said:

Jamiel's Law

Recently, I wrote on the murder of Jamiel Shaw Jr last month in Los Angeles by an illegal alien gang member who was never deported after being released from LA County Jail. The suspect had served 4 months on a weapons charge. Apparently, when arrested, he told the cops that he was born in LA, and his word was accepted. One day after his release, he shot and killed Jamiel Shaw, a 17-year-old star high school football player and son of a servicewoman serving in Iraq. Had normal procedures been followed, an immigration hold would have been placed on this person, and he would have been deported upon his release. But because Los Angeles is a "sanctuary city", immigration authorities were never notified. Now, we have a dead youth senselessly murdered.

In response to this outrage, mayoral candidate Walter Moore, with the support of Jamiel Shaw Sr, is asking the LA City Council to revoke the city regulation (Rule 40)that prohibits LAPD officers from even detaining known illegal alien gang members. Yesterday, the two appeared before the City Council to state that "Enough is enough" and plead for their support.

So far, they have met with zero results. In fact, they were treated with arrogance and disinterest.

For example, City Councilmember Ed Reyes, while expressing sympathy for Mr Shaw, stated that to revoke the rule would bring "unintended consequences". Such as, Mr Reyes? Saving innocent lives, perhaps?

City Councilmember Jan Perry, for her part, expressed concern at the angry tone of the hearings.

What a bunch of garbage that is the leadership of the City of Los Angeles. From Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, the leading voice of Sanctuary, to his political hack police chief, William Bratton, to the City Council, this has to be one of the worst-run cities in America-and there is a lot of competition.

Of course, to call the City Council a "do-nothing" city council would not be accurate. Why just recently, they have approved a big rate hike on behalf of the Dept of Water and Power, which says it needs the revenue-in spite of the fact that they kicked back 175 million dollars to the city's general fund this past year and despite the fact that they are able to offer lactation classes to their employees and dependents. The council is also currently involved in passing laws to protect local celebrities from paparazzi. Laws to protect their citizens from illegal alien gang members? Well, that would have "unintended consequences" in the words of Ed Reyes.

Another point that must be stated: Where are all the so-called black civil rights leaders in LA? People like Najee Ali, Eddie Jones, and the others have all been strangely silent. When a black criminal is shot or roughed up by the cops, they are out there marching on City Hall. Yet, when a young black kid with no criminal ties gets murdered by an illegal alien gangbanger, it's "Ho hum". I for one just don't get it.

LA radio talk show host, Doug McIntyre has gotten involved in the effort to bring attention to the city's disgrace. His web site has a pre-printed form letter to each of the LA City Council members urging them to pass "Jamiel's Law", which would exempt LAPD officers from this ridiculous Rule 40-at least when it concerns illegal alien gang members.

The address for the LA City Council for anyone who would like to weigh in is:

City Hall
200 N Spring St
LA, Ca 90012

There are 15 council members, which are listed below along with room numbers and telephone numbers:

Ed Reyes- room 410, tel (213) 473-7001
Wendy Greuel- room 475, tel (213)473-7002
Dennis Zine-room 450, tel (213) 473-7003
Tom LaBonge-room 480, tel (213)473-7004
Jack Weiss-room 440, tel (213) 473-7005
Tony Cardenas-room 455, tel (213) 473-7006
Richard Alarcon-room 425, tel (213) 473-7007
Bernard Parks-room 460, tel (213)473-7008
Jan Perry-room 420, tel (213) 473-7009
Herb Wesson-room 430, tel (213)473-7010
Bill Rosendahl-room 415, tel (213)473-7011
Greig Smith-room 405, tel (213) 473-7012
Eric Garcetti-room 470, tel (213) 473-7013
Jose Huizar-room 465, tel (213) 473-7014
Janice Hahn-room 435, tel (213) 473-7015

This episode points out the insanity of this whole sanctuary city philosophy, which, unfortunately, is spreading across the country. It is vital that pressure be applied to get "Jamiel's Law" passed. In addition, this should not just be limited to LA; it should become a nation-wide movement.

gary fouse
fousesquawk

April 09, 2008 6:08 PM  

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