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Monday, September 24, 2007

Things to Make You Mad About Los Angeles

Fodder for Monday talkradio progams...

Apparently We Are Not Taxed Enough
Get ready for yet another property tax to right a social wrong. Clowncilwoman Janice Hahn wants you to pay another $30 a year to fund "anti gang" programs, of course irrespective of the fact the current anti-gang programs spend millions and have had little results. The plan will be placed on yet another "special election" ballot during the February 2008 California Presidential Primary (to be followed by certain other special elections during the California Everything Else But Presidential Primary in June and General Election in November of next year).

Fortunately there is at least one sane voice in the wilderness. City Controller Laura Chick doesn't believe the move is wise until audits in progress of the current "programs" are complete. Imagine that! Fiscal prudence from an elected official.

If that's not enough for you, the buzz out of City Hall is that Los Angeles officials are currently crafting a plan for a personal income tax for anyone who works in the City. The City of New York imposes an up to 5.82% personal income tax on residents. Given the number of non-residents who work in the City (including many City employees) Los Angeles would probably want to seek to include them in the plan (New York does not tax non-residents except for some City employees who live outside the city - wonder what the unions will think of that?).

The Nanny State
Personal responsibility is no longer required in Los Angeles (unless of course you owe the City money). Are you fat? Its not because you eat too much. Clowncilwoman Jan Perry wants you to know that its because of bad zoning. Of course government intervention into your private life is not just an LA phenomenon. In Oregon apparently you can get in trouble for drying your clothes outdoor on a line.

Finally, if you want a few more items of nonsense from our City government to make your blood boil, read this piece from Jon Coupal.

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Actually, the parcel tax would be an average of forty not thirty bucks per house. Average being maybe half a million, which isn't really average.
But it seems like the Council owes Janice "her" bill as some sort of price for getting support for others' bills. Or maybe the Mayor wants to buy a little more loyalty, since he beat her bro. Still, voters have to vote it in by two thirds. Makes you wonder if it isn't time to go back to the founding days of the country when only property owners could vote. Renters have no disincentive not to vote for every tax on homeowners, especially as the more marginal areas where homeownership is lower will benefit most. But this sort of thing has been going on for years, decades, especially under the bro of Janice, equally leftist Mayor Hahn.

September 24, 2007 12:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

. Renters have no disincentive not to vote for every tax on homeowners, especially as the more marginal areas where homeownership is lower will benefit most.


Can you say rent increase all the property owners have to do is advice the renters who will ultimately pay the bill.

September 24, 2007 1:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:11 fool: most property owners own their own homes, they're not landlords. You just reflect the mentality that you can't think past the landlords - vs. tenants mentality that causes you to vote for these taxes. It'll be people with homes in Bel Air and Encino hills paying for your tenements which get most of the graffiti. Plus some struggling in more modest homes. The little homes will pay the forty dollar tax, nicer ones over a hundred, which is how this tax is being proposed.

Owners of large buildings aren't even being mentioned.

You prove you need to be a property owner to vote for property taxes.

September 24, 2007 1:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This goes to show the stupidty of those running the city. Taxing home owners not even knowning where the $82 million is being wasted and wanting more is like buying a flat screen tv that broke and going out and buying another one. Janice is an imbecile and KFI will be all over this with their over million listeners telling people its outrageous. IF Perry did her job and lobbied for a decent chain market in her area she wouldn't need to put a moritorium on fast food. This group of clowncil members is the biggest joke in the nation. Word is already spreading NO on this parcel tax. 6 city council members got campaign donations from LA Bridges. The gang programs are run by ex cons that give the money to themselves and families. Let's see what LIES clowncil puts on their fliers and the fear to spin their cause. IDIOTS

September 24, 2007 6:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ah, the free lunch crowd is out in force again, wanting government to do everything for them without their having to pay for it.

It's okay, and right, to demand accountability for how revenues are spent by government, but to keep talking like everything should be paid for with the same finite number of tax dollars we've already put in the kitty, without regard to cost, economic fluctuation, inflation or priorities just makes us look silly.

We're lucky looking silly comes naturally to voters.

September 24, 2007 7:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dont worry about the parcel tax. The bigger issue is the democratic candidates all tripping over themselves wanting to increase income and social security taxes. Candidate B Hussein Obama now wants to increase the social security income limit. If you work hard and make $150,000 a year which is a very nice income but hardly superrich, you would be socked with a $6,500 increase into the Social security rip off system. Add on top of that an increase in the maximum tax rate you are now up to 10K. That is the real threat to libery and the ecomomy.

September 24, 2007 7:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:09 -

Please enlighten us Philistines. Exactly how many billions does it take to put enough cops on the street?

September 24, 2007 7:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:03 AM is dead right about what happens to "gang program" and "drug intervention" money. Except that the reality is actually a lot worse.

Read "The Mexican Mafia" by Tony Rafael. It's all there. I promise you one thing. The "Carnales" of "La Eme" will run rings around Janice Hahn all day long.

September 24, 2007 9:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

that book sucks ask anyone or read any review on it. there is no point in reading that book.

September 24, 2007 9:55 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Are any of you guys concerned about a city personal income tax?

September 24, 2007 10:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What politician wouldn't want an opportunity to campaign against an unpopular tax proposal?

Laura Chick is probably praying that the City Council is stupid enough to put this thing on the ballot. It's a dream come true for someone who wants to prove that the City Council loves to waste other people's money.

September 24, 2007 11:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, 10:38 AM:

Not me - I'm outta there!

September 24, 2007 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FACTS: council wastes over $20 million on special event waivers, not collecting all the fines for traffic violations DN reported last year it was $160 MILLION, then the $40 mil on elephant exhibit that has ONE elephant now. Then all the fines they could collect from illegal vendors but don't. Then the millions they spend on dumb studies, all the money wasted on their little projects in districts and yet look at the mess this city is in? Never before been so bad and anyone who was born here will tell you this is the worst group of morons making decisions. Gang parcel TAX no way will pass. Never will they get two thirds. But let's see how corrupt they are and what they plan on telling voters to scare them into thinking the city needs it.

September 24, 2007 12:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I read it, and I think it's a real eye opener.

Did you read it, or just someone's review?

The review I read said it was good. That's why I bought it, and I agree.

Pretty scary though.

September 24, 2007 12:32 PM  

Anonymous jimmy chonga said:

yes mayor sam there a couple of even numbered type council offices getting it ready to tax the peeps. and he is right its not just for residents cause they know the non-res who work here can't vote

what a brilliant plan

just ask capn jack

September 24, 2007 1:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone needs to rezone Jan Perry she's going to start to spill into other Council districts if she doesn't lay off the Church's Fried Chicken.

September 24, 2007 2:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Candidate B Hussein Obama now wants to increase the social security income limit. If you work hard and make $150,000 a year which is a very nice income but hardly superrich, you would be socked with a $6,500 increase into the Social security rip off system. Add on top of that an increase in the maximum tax rate you are now up to 10K. That is the real threat to libery and the ecomomy."

President Bush started the same thing today. Watch out for your social security payments. If they stopped giving Social Security and Social Security Disability to every illegial and legal over 62 WHO JUST CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, there might be enough for the old folkes. I think EVERYONE must have paid into Social Security at least 20 years before they can collect.

September 24, 2007 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said...

I read it, and I think it's a real eye opener.

Did you read it, or just someone's review?

The review I read said it was good. That's why I bought it, and I agree.

Pretty scary though.

if you thought that was an eye opener you must not know shit. the book had nothing to do with the mexican mafia, pure propaganda.i guess for someone who does not know shit about the topic he may have fooled you into beleaving some of that bullshit.

September 24, 2007 5:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Looks like Janice used to dress up and play Captain while manning a Circle Line Cruise around the Harbor.
She seems to be having fun posing -- can they hire her back there? She'll get lots of photo ops there. Maybe even discover another Reggie the Gator in the deep somewhere. Rescues a seal, maybe?

September 24, 2007 5:33 PM  

Blogger Jack Hoff said:

And why is Janice Hahn smiling?

Because she probably doesn't read this blog!

Very cute pic, tho.

(Can't quite figure out the purple arm in the background...is it attached to her, or does it belong to a dead captain or political advisor still trying to hang on...?)

September 24, 2007 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jack, you devil -- you've got a secret Janice thing, huh? What do you mean what purple arm -- her arm that's hanging onto the wheel while she's pretending to steer, preening for the camera? Or does she have eyes out the side of her head? How old is that photo, anyway? She ought to pay Sam for making her look so good.

September 24, 2007 6:42 PM  

Anonymous joseph chapman the privateer said:

Aye, Mayor Sam (10:38), I be most annoyed. Mayhap ye read me comment 'pon the Leave LA thread (9:19)?

September 24, 2007 9:23 PM  

Blogger Jack Hoff said:

You know what, 6:42, you may be right!

I think I just might have a thing for Janice Hahn!!

I wonder if she likes McD's fish sandwiches...we could do lunch.

September 24, 2007 9:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jack, have Captain Jack Sparrow give her a call, looks like she's a natural for joining the crew.

Don't know about the McD's fish sandwiches. Maybe as long as her friend Jan doesn't find out about it.

September 24, 2007 9:46 PM  

Anonymous William "Skinny" jones said:

I can just imagine this fantasy interview with CM Jan Perry:

Q: Councilmember Perry, I'm sure the residents of our city are quite pleased with your proposal to place a moratorium city-wide on fast-food restaurants. What has the feedback been from the residents of our city?

A: It's been quite positive. You see, it's not because of poor-quality meals that are for sale in fast food restaurants that make people fat, it's just that there's too many of these places. That's poor planning, and not the fault of those who eat at these places.

Q: So how will this help those who are malnourished?

A: Well, there are always the supermarkets that can help with this. The malnourished can always buy food there, and if they have trouble buying food, we also have food banks available. But I'm not addressing the malnourished with this proposal; I'm addressing the problem of those who are severely overweight.

Q: Let's revisit your answer to the question I asked before. You said it was poor planning that results in too many fast-food places. Are you criticizing the City's Planning Department?

A: No, I didn't say it was the fault of the Planning Department. It's just the result of poor planning by the retail owners of these places.

Q: Unless my eyes deceive me, it would seem that you need to lose a few pounds to get back into shape.

A: I am in shape. Round is a shape!

This is William Jones reporting from the Farmer's Market located on the south lawn at City Hall. Back to you in the studio.

September 24, 2007 11:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:03 - What are you talking about? I would like to see some hardcore proof about illegal immigrants collecting Social Security. Even when they use a false SS number to get a job, that money just goes into the SS Department's equivalent of a general fund. Baby Boomers are lucky that they'll have money in their SS accounts and they can thank their illegal immigrant friends for pumping up the Social Security bank of money.

Illegal immigrants don't qualify for Social Security. Or any other government money, for that matter.

Mothers get ADC (aid to dependent children), but no welfare. Clinton ended that and in order to qualify for the ADC, they must take their turns doing community work to earn their keep.

There are just as many Russian and Chinese immigrants abusing the health care system as anyone else but I never hear anyone hear bitching about them or calling them names.

September 25, 2007 12:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That last claim sounds mighty dubious indeed. No doubt there are Russian immigrants getting aid, but now many Chinese are getting smuggled into the country these days? I've actually heard of some coming up through the Mexican border a while back, but it's pretty hard to float by tire tube all the way from China these days. Anyone who comes by plane and overstays their visa has a file.
But there are twelve million of each of these illegal groups, you say? Then we have to add the Indians and Bulgarians...

Not that I'm one who posts on the Mexicans here, but if you want to defend them, being absurd doesn't help.

September 25, 2007 12:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:03: Wait, on top of the illogical computation of Russians and Chinese, you're saying boomers ought to thank the illegals for stealing their SS numbers? Wow, and all along, most of us thought that was a crime and could affect one's credit and entire ID. To think...

September 25, 2007 12:50 AM  

Anonymous 12:03 said:

No, I didn't say they were stealing YOUR SS numbers. I said they are making them up and buying fake numbers and ADDING to the SS fund. You can't deny this is happening. If the number is made up, nobody is ruining your credit. The point is, illegal immigrants are paying into the SS fund, never to be able to collect on it. Be happy about it.

And how many Chinese have been smuggled into the port on ships? Ever take a count? It's not an illogical computation. You just don't want to hear the facts.

September 26, 2007 1:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:18: You don't know when to give up, do you? You're still insisting there are 12 million Chinese smuggled in on ships. Are you giving up the claim about the Russians?

And, hello stupid -- when illegals "make up" SS numbers, which they do, those often belong to real people, who find their credit messed up. If you didn't get all your "news before it happens" from idiot Dogg on this blog, you'd know that well-reported and documented fact.

September 26, 2007 12:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gang tax? Why not a gang breeding tax to the parents who breed these shits? Instead of $30 tax on everyone in LA, charge the parents $500, for a gang association fee or a first offense fee, then keep[ it going every year until the kid is dead or in prison, then charge the parent to cover those costs too..
Why should we pay for their f' in mistakes.

September 27, 2007 1:12 PM  

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