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Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Tweedledee and Tweedledummerers

Fun stuff that came to our in box today involves two of the more comical local politicians in Los Angeles.

First off, Cindy M. from Blogging LA reports that our old friend, "Hurricane" Jackie Goldberg was somewhat confused as to how young people commmunicate these days. During a speech at her alma matter, UC Berkeley, Hurricane told the students:
"They're worried about your generation, because you get your news from Comedy Central. And you blog, whatever that means."
C'mon Jackie - its not 1967 anymore where you all got high off the fumes from the AB Dick (hmmm, interesting choice of a name considering) machine in the student union. Its all about communication. I wonder if she even knows that the successor to her LA City Council seat, Eric Garcetti has a blog?

From the ridiculous to the sublime, giving former traffic cop turned Councilman Dennis Zine a run for his money is his neighbor to the north, Councilman Greig Smith (where does he get the "i" in Greg anyway?). He flips, he flops, and amazingly, he flips again.

After supporting a new Wal-Mart in his district, apparently the other half of LA's version of "Starsky and Hutch" is now opposing the store. I'm not sure if the anti-WalMart folks ponied up a greater alleged slush fund than the alleged slush fund Wal-Mart gave up, but you never know.

Anyone know what Tom LaBonge is up to these days? It used to be he was the main source of humor around town, but not anymore. Way to go Hurricane and Gre(i)g.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jackie Goldberg is the biggest dumbshit around.

August 17, 2005 1:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DOes anyone know how Tom LAbonge pays for his sister city trips?

enquiring minds want to know.

August 17, 2005 1:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Knowing Tom, he pays with Monopoly money.

August 17, 2005 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DAMN, Stop slamming my favorite client.

-- Porke Skeleton

August 17, 2005 1:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jackie G. made Parke a rich man when he was still an unknown character assasin.

August 17, 2005 1:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

who is more estupido? Zine or Smith?

August 17, 2005 1:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


August 17, 2005 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


August 17, 2005 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


August 17, 2005 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


August 17, 2005 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Our office deals with both all the time. I'd give a slight edge on brains to Zine, and he has way more personality.

August 17, 2005 1:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He can fit all that personality into his "Z" pen he constantly wears.


August 17, 2005 1:53 PM  

Blogger politix said:

Is it just me, or does Jackie's people send their community event flyers way too often. I receive on average, 10 announcements for the same event each time. Very annoying!

August 17, 2005 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jackie's people communicated with the parents and constituents 10 times better when she was on school board, than Huizar.

He's unknown, and paying for it now (or actually, his building contractor contributors are "paying" for it).

August 17, 2005 2:03 PM  

Blogger politix said:

Greig Smith flips his decision to support Wal-Mart, Zine flops his decision to support AV instead of Hahn when he had already endorsed Hahn. Not sure which is worse.

August 17, 2005 2:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ya know, if you read Smiths press release you would never know the community raised holy hell, and finally got him to back down.

He Flips, he Flops oh wait a second... does this mean the neighborhood council people who got into the war with Smith were... cough... right????

No wonder he is now trying to act like this was all his idea.

August 17, 2005 2:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I got that press release to where Smith takes the credit over his sudden desire to have an EIR as if no skirmish ever took place.

FORTUNATELY we have Mayor Sam to keep the historical record straight. This was a huge reversal of Smith who told everyone that this project was a done deal and the community supported the project. (he even shouted it at the last NC meeting on the issue I attended)

I have to believe the win here goes to Jim Alger and his Neighborhood Council. They really pinned Smith down on this one, and forced him to come around or face the consequences.

August 17, 2005 2:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zines Z pin is beyond rediculous.

As for Smith... Jesus H. Christ can this guy fuck a monkey or what?

First he opposes Wal Mart. Then he supports it in exchange or loot. Alger and Company then open up a small can of whoop ass. Smith then threatens to sue Alger and company so they promply go to the cubbard and aquire a larger can of whoop ass. Now Smith suddenly opposes the Wal Mart based on what he should have known right from the start.

I swear I think Smith is dummer than dirt. I'd love to give Alger the credit here but with this Smith moron at the helm it is just to easy.

With antics like this Smith makes Ed Reyes look like a NASA engineer.

August 17, 2005 3:12 PM  

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August 17, 2005 3:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam I heard Smith was screaming about your blog!

August 17, 2005 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

who is Jackie's candidate for the 45th and she viable?

August 17, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Elena Popp
viable or not, that race is over.

August 17, 2005 3:54 PM  

Blogger politix said:

If you go to
It gives you the names of the people running for open seats.

August 17, 2005 3:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wha t d u mean?

August 17, 2005 3:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I heard its "carpetbagger Kevin" to win and beat "carpetbagger Elena and carpetbagger Cristine"

What a race.

August 17, 2005 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Smith is PISSED at you guys! I mean FUMING!!!

Apparently he doesn't like the idea that someone utilizes their 1st ammendment rights to dissent, comment on or utter anything he doesn't approve of.

Perhaps he should keep his staff in check and maybe he wouldn't get in so much trouble.

As for his flip flopping, when will Smith understand that you can't tell a community in a packed room that they are wasting their time and then wonder why they scream at you.

This guy needs to start working WITH the community and the NC's and quit taking credit for every one elses work. From what I can see, that is what got him in trouble this time.

Whoever wrote that stupid press release should be fired.

Whoever told him to send that stupid letter threatening the NC folks should be fired. And if these were his brilliant ideas, he should do the folks of CD 12 a favor and just resign.

August 17, 2005 4:01 PM  

Blogger politix said:

Greig Smith needs to learn to take criticism. Criticism only comes with stupidity.

August 17, 2005 4:09 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Hi Greig -

Big kisses to you.

Mayor Sam

August 17, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Word is Smith wants to get the DA to investigate your blog to find out who is "defaming" him.

What a fucking I D I O T!

August 17, 2005 4:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'd say lets nominate Smith for "Bash an elected day" but this nincompoop would make it too easy.

August 17, 2005 4:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Smith's not that dumb, he just makes the mistake of following Mitch's advice. This COS is the brainiac behind making the threat to sue for laible/slander.

August 17, 2005 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My vote goes to Zine as the biggest idiot. The rank and file use to support him but after he flip flopped on the city tax measure to get more cops and voted no he lost their support.

Yup, I agree with poster on the mayor endorsement. Zine was at an event with Antonio saying "this is the man." When Antonio left and Hahn showed up Zine was with Hahn giving a thumbs up. Who could trust this guy?

August 17, 2005 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Smith continues to follow Mitch then he is a complete moron.

Mitch should be fired, as should half Smith's staff but he is too much of a bafoon to figure it out.

August 17, 2005 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Only Smith could be so stupid as to side with the community and still get his ass handed to him.

Pretty lame Grieg.

August 17, 2005 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It isn't flip flopping so much as it is lying.

Smith is trying to give the impression he always opposed something that he didn't. He puts his finger in the air and takes his next move. He tried to sneak this one past but the neighborhood council caught him and publicly called his sorry ass out.

More councils should do that. Maybe then we would get something done. Of course Smith will keep on going ignoring his constituents until they get smart enough to send his good for nothing ass packing.

August 17, 2005 4:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Smith is on the horn with Steve Cooley trying to get records for the blog.

I would advise City Hall staffers to stop posting.

August 17, 2005 4:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just left City Hall. I'd say Smith is in orbit.

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August 17, 2005 4:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is no way Cooley can get the blogs records. No crime has been committed.

Cooley has more important things to deal with, like prosecuting gang bangers and pedophile priests.

He doesn't need to be the lapboy for a thin skinned politician. Everything Mayor Sam has said is documented and comes from other sources.

Think of what the Daily News did to him when he threatened to sue Alger. It would be bigger going after the blog. He would be skewered not only by the press, but by every blog out there.

If Mayor Sam thought CNN gave him press, this would be a tsunami.

He needs to chill.

August 17, 2005 4:52 PM  

Anonymous CD 11 watcher said:

Greig and Zine are equally dumb. Dumb, Dumber and if you add Englander, Dumberer.

August 17, 2005 4:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You rise a good point. The Daily News ripped Smithyboy for days when he pulled that stupid stunt, but it would be just like him.

He and his staff constantly threaten people who disagree with him with various forms of intimidation.

It's an abuse of power but what do you expect from a wanna-be cop?

August 17, 2005 5:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am not sure what concerns me more.

1) The fact that Greg Smith can't spell his name.

2) The fact that he went to war with a Neighborhood Council.

3) The fact that he lost that war.

4) The fact that he threatened to sue constituents

5) The fact that he lost that fight too and then got handed his ass by the media.

It is very difficult to accept that the good folks of Council District 12 voted for this dumbass in the first place. He certainly is no PR genius.

August 17, 2005 5:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just read through all your links Sam. I must have miised this when it all started but it looks like Smith got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and had to back off.

I am not suprised he flip flopped, I am suprised he was dumb enough to issue a press release announcing it!

August 17, 2005 5:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It makes you (shudder) almost wish Julie had won.

August 17, 2005 5:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mike O’Connell, Chief of Staff for Mr. Alger summed it up “I am glad the Councilman came around in time to take the credit for other peoples work. It’s just a shame that it took all this effort to get us here.”

August 17, 2005 5:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hasn't Greeeeg threatened to call Steve Cooley before?

Big bad fake cop wants to shove people around. Don't be scared of him.

My favorite Smith/Zine story is the one where they were on "fake cop" patrol and they went to Galpin Ford and.. I'll be damned if they didn't find a break-in in progress. You all know how much money car dealers keep around?

So they beat the guy up. The best part of the story? They just happened to have the President of the Police Commission who also works at Galpin AND they just happened to have Mitch Englander with them who just happened to have a camera! What a campaign consultant....oops, I mean Chief of Staff.

This happened in the middle of the night. I always wondered who those posters were who were up at 3 AM. I guess we know now. Greeeg, Dennis, Mitch and their friends and family.

Disgusting. I feel sorry for those CD 12 residents.

August 17, 2005 5:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How is it possible to be as dumb as Smith seems to be?

He manages to piss off the community at every turn.

Where did that Alger campaign quote come from?

August 17, 2005 5:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone please tell me... why the hell would you issue a press release to announce you sent a frieking letter to a Zoning person???

That's news???

If so, that explains why so many people talk so much shit about Mitch and Greig behind their backs on the 4th floor. Everyone knows he is a big baby who throws temper tantrums. Actually the both are and they feed off of each other... kind of sad.

August 17, 2005 5:58 PM  

Anonymous New Jim Alger Fan said:

As a resident of Northridge I can say that if Smith would have listened to his constituents in the first place he would have never had to back down. But his staff hates or fears Alger so much that it blinded them.

I was not a supporter of Jim Alger until Wal Mart.

Jim Alger demanded an EIR from the git go, but Smiths' office resisted. He demanded Smith publicly oppose the Wal Mart but Smith never did. Instead Smith threatened Alger with a lawsuit to which Alger called his bluff and of course, no suit. When the people of Northridge needed someone to fight for them, Jim Alger was there. Grieg Smith was nowhere to be found.

Now Alger will end up the winner with the community, and rightfully so. as there is no way that Smith could ever say he opposed the Wal Mart given the letter that he sent out, his repeated "done deal" statements to anyone who called the office, and Phyllis Wingers' statement "The councilman supports this project under the following conditions".

Alger definately helps us here in Northridge, too bad he is running for Assembly. Mr Smith, you could lear a thing or to from people like Jim Alger.

August 17, 2005 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Chatsworth Horse Lovers said:

Vic Sampson for Area Planning? Vic Sampson for Area Planning? Vic - who is really good friends with Sandor Winger?

The same Vic Sampson that has Hal Bernson working for him? Antonio did this? And not Greig Smith?

Vic Sampson for Area Planning? I feel like we're living in a nightmare.

Poor Porter Ranch. Someone must tell them about this as they are about to be even more destroyed.

August 17, 2005 7:05 PM  

Blogger Deputy Chief of Staff said:

Umm, the Englanders are known far and wide for the dimness of their bulbs.

Greeee-i-g had his ass handed to him on a platter from the Little Engine that Could, Jim Alger.

Smithy needs to learn to take the heat. If he can read for comprehension and saw what Mayor Sam did to Janice last week, he should know better than to try to flip-flop and get away with it. That, or he should just not send out a G**damn press release stating his position has changed. Moron.

August 17, 2005 9:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Greg could comprehend, he would know how to spell his name.

What got him caught this time around was his attempt to get press for doing a job he should have done months ago.


August 17, 2005 11:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And didn't he serve in City Hall before getting elected? He comes across as a rank amateur.

August 17, 2005 11:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Greig Smith looks like he's constipated on posting photo.

August 18, 2005 12:05 PM  

Blogger R2K said:

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August 18, 2005 5:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jackie Goldberg is a fat sow who needs to go!

August 21, 2005 6:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Christine Chavez is going to take AD 45!!!

Elena Popp does Not have a chance in hell!

Viva Cesar Chavez!

Si Se Puede!

August 21, 2005 6:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

christine is going to get squashed like a Central Valley grape. Kevin will be posting 400,000 soon.

August 22, 2005 12:47 AM  

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