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Wednesday, February 09, 2005

Panties in a Bunch

Panties in a Bunch

Since the phrase of the week seems to be "panties in a bunch" (used both by our dear friends at Martini Republic and SacramentoNighties in his comments), I ask for your patience. Computer problems reign supreme here in the Sister City. Nothing like an old-school dial up connection to get around the nutjobs at SBC screwin with the DSL to drive you nuts. I need more coffee. Moving on-

Steve Lopez strikes again in the Times with a late debate recap and an ounce of the sarcastic wit that we all love.

Some key excerpts-

  • Thankfully, there's a silver lining to this kind of monkey business. There's been so much of it at City Hall, some Angelenos appear to be bucking tradition and — brace yourselves, Los Angeles — paying attention. A Times poll found that fewer than half of likely voters think Mayor Jim Hahn has honesty and integrity, and 34% came right out and said they believe he's dishonest.

  • Taxpayers shelled out $3 million a year on public relations, Parks said, "for a water firm that has a monopoly." And thanks to a water line break, Westsiders last week were boiling water as if they were in "some Third World country," said Alarcon, who suggested DWP hire a PR firm to say the water's OK.

  • Hertzberg is the most accomplished wonk in the crowd. But it is now clear that his true purpose is to drive Hahn batty during debates by constantly mugging, gesturing, jabbing and chattering. Hertzberg cannot sit still to save his life, and they stick him next to a mayor who could sit through a three-alarm fire without moving a muscle until his pants combusted.

  • I, for one, am enjoying the show. It's almost worth paying a $370 DWP bill.

Blog away


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Surely the key line in Lopez' piece is where he accuses Tony of hallucinating. Of course, we don't want a corrupt city hall, but we don't need an Alice in Wonderland Los Angeles either. Although nobody can verify it, Tony's already boasting of creating 80 neighborhood watches. Who knows, where other people will see open space and undeveloped land, Tony may try to convince us he's built a state of the art biotech corridor! Tony the hallucinator.

February 09, 2005 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Tony the hallucinator"

"Ignore the man behind the curtain, I am the great and vision-filled wizard of diminishing odds"

February 09, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Update on the 80 new neighborhood watches in CD14. That was a "typo" and was supposed to say "80 new block captains" (equal to 4-5 new neighborhood watch organizations). The stenographer apologizes.

February 09, 2005 11:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Smith Villaraigosa bill. Tony the Hallucinator.

February 09, 2005 11:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

People in CD14 support my decision to run for mayor. Tony the Hallucinator.

February 09, 2005 11:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"If elected, I will stay for the full 4 year term and not run for mayor." Tony the Hallucinator!

February 09, 2005 11:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"The momentum continues to build" Tony the Hallucinator.

February 09, 2005 11:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That doesn't count; it doesn't say whose momentum. . .

February 09, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Silly? No, JH, it's already happened to us here in CD14. ADV has been being run over the districts needs and dreams for almost 2 years. It hurts like hell, and leaves a feeling of shame (not silliness). THEN, just when we think ADV is going to finally STOP running over us, he puts the car in reverse, backs over his constituents faith in his campaign promises, again, and heads off in a new direction (where-ever the campaign winds blow). If only it were just "silly."

February 09, 2005 12:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well I see the City Council finally got it right and voted NO on taxing us more money. Good job you are finally listening to the people.

February 09, 2005 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JH? And what will you feel like when a hallucination is - well, only a hallucination?

February 09, 2005 1:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


February 09, 2005 1:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Again, for the benefit of the imported CD14 field staffers:

Abstruse: Difficult to compehend.

Like why Tony V. couldn't keep a simple campaign promise like "I won't run" when there were already 2-3 other challengers in the race that he claims to be admirers of, and friends with. If ADV hadn't entered the race, fractionalized the ABH vote even further (complete with his massive political baggage)-- then Hertzberg or Parks would have already pulled ahead of Hahn, and the "corrupt one" would be updating his resume.

(JH: You SURE you want to keep parke-ing those $50 words out here in front of the five "sleazy bar owners." They all seem to own a dictionary and have a better sense of humor than you do. Check on that with the campaign, and get back.

February 09, 2005 1:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sacramento you should drive through this weekend. Especially othe one right next door to ADV's field office on 1st.

February 09, 2005 1:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


----"Hahn for Mayor 2005 Campaign Strategy"----
***********30 Day Countdown**************

by Julie B.C.H. Wongmeister

Operation Pay-To-Play

In a marked reversal of our usual "Pay-to-play" operation, it will be Jimmy that will be paying (for votes) so that Jimmy and all of us "The Mayor's Men" may play again (another 4 years of screwing the dumb Angelenos).

What follows are proposed Pay Projects that our campaign may use (without it costing us anything) by billing, bilking, shafting and screwing the tax payers.

1. All 88 Neighborhood Councils "Leaders" will receive an autographed photo of Jimmy filling a pothole of their choosing.

2. These same "Leaders" will receive another $100,000 per NC for their annual mountain retreat which will feature training courses, such as:

A) Shafting the L.A. Taxpayer - "The Hahn Multi-Disciplinary Approach to Screwing"

B) 101 Ways to Fleece L.A.'s Sheep (The Taxpayer)

C) My Life as Mayor - Jimmy Hahn's personal reflections on his one-term as mayor. This course is rated MA (Mature Audiences Only). Conversation will include tales of greed, corruption, sex and the shocker - how boring it all was.

D) The Art of the Yawn - Using the Jimmy Hahn proven system

3. Padded Cash envelopes (using the Mayor's special fund- City of LA Account #72739-52 (Check your phone keys and unscramble) will be personally handed to "special" people utilizing and via our dedicated Maintenance Yard personnel (on city time) which will be delivered with the lawn signs that are currently stored in the following City properties:

a)All DWP facilities in the door marked "DANGER- DO NOT ENTER-YOU WILL DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH"

b) All union controlled city properties in the door marked "PELIGRO contribuyente - ser mal perdedor – Do Not Enter"

c) Saturday ONLY! At the city printing press in Piper Tech there will be a special secret run of exclusive Jimmy for Mayor stuff

4. A special buffet reception for all Jimmy Hahn supporters starring the “Nation of Islam Race-Baiters” and other surprise guests.

This is all very exciting for us as we move into new territory. We should all be proud that we, collectively, have raised the art form of screwing the tax payers to higher levels than ever done in this sick city.

Remember the Jimmy chant:

“Who do we screw?
The Taxpayer ! The Taxpayer! The Taxpayer
Yeaaaaaae…The Taxpayer..!

Jimmy’s Greatest Joke:

How many Angelenos does it take to screw in a light bulb?
1. Angelenos don't screw in light bulbs, they get screwed by the Mayor!
2. Five. Fleischmann Hillard to PR the issue, Antonio Villa to take credit for the issue, Parks to complain about the 3 day work week by the bulb installers, Alarcon to hand it over to the NC’s for resolution, Hertzberg to breakup the lightbulb and me, Jimmy, to financially rape you (the taxpayer) out of all your life savings.

Okay, Hanhsters let’s get back to screwing the city.

Your friend, Julie

February 09, 2005 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Appreciate your concern about the educational system here. However, you mispelled "rationalizaton." But, I'm sure they don't make those mistakes at the expensive private schools in Pasadena where Tony V.'s kids are sent (probably your kids, too?)

February 09, 2005 2:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And YOU misspelled "mispelled." LAUSD, huh?

February 09, 2005 2:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Voters don't always go 'for the hometown guy.'"

From your lips to Pope Tony's burning ears!

February 09, 2005 2:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whoa starting to get vicious and personal. Oh well, it keeps this debate alive despite the fact that everyone is recycling what they say day in and day out. I guess that cut and paste function really works

February 09, 2005 2:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

J. Harriman compared: 'Holden finished 4th in his own district in the 1993 Mayoral primary.'

I can't find results back that far, J., but I don't suppose that had anything to do with the fact that Woo (the first Asian American to be a leading contender for the position), was also in the race? And Holden's district included one of the city's largest concentrations of Asian Americans?

That's not an apples and oranges comparison to today is it? Is this the type of rationalization Villaraigosa's supporters are mounting to explain the poor showing they fear next month?

February 09, 2005 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

YEAH, what he said (but without the "potty" mouth)!

February 09, 2005 3:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Food for thought: Is is wrong to suggest that a candidate isn't acting in good faith when they hype their concern and support for LAUSD, but don't know anything (recent) about city schools first hand. Are they "attacking the kids" or just pointing out a glaring hypocrisy in the candidate himself?

If Hahn (or his flak agency) said the DWP water was safe for the masses (but he imported vats of Evian for his family to bathe in -- would someone nail him for that?) It's sensitive, true, but is it fair game?

February 09, 2005 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't feel too bad other Nony. Check back a few blog days. Whenever JH get's cornered with bad logic or grossly misleading figures defending Tony boy, he feigns abuse or anger and huffs off the blog until he can pop in another abtrusive(?) rejoinder later on, hoping nobody cares enough to fact-check that one.

February 09, 2005 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How DARE you accuse me of that. Why I never. This is so childish, I'm leaving here. Harrumph.

(celebrity blogger impersonated)

February 09, 2005 4:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

J. if someone saying your kids go to a private school is a "sneering reference" you are WAY to thin-skinned to be batting around in here.

February 09, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone please explain to me how one "sneers" on a mostly anonymous, faceless blog, anyway. I'd like to try it sometime.

(Can you see me? I'm scowling, too!)

February 09, 2005 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, I think I DID refute you earlier, JH, when you tried to directly compare Villaraigosa (the most prominent Latino in a large majority Latino district), running for mayor this year with Holden in '93 (an African American running against an Asian American in a district with large percentages of both populations).

You walked right past it as if that logic would hold anywhere in the real world.

February 09, 2005 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Harummph, Harummph.

February 09, 2005 4:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And leave the Persians out of this, too, Harriman. They've done nothing for you to go "ethnic" all of a sudden.

February 09, 2005 4:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"... it is not a given that Antonio will do well in CD14."

The hedging begins -- how is that EVEN possible with an 81 percent approval rating in the district. How fickle can these people be?

(I note you also refute with "I believe" - "I think" - "I feel") Is that what qualifies as "my facts" where you come from?)

February 09, 2005 4:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He also neglected to mention that about one-third of that district was Latino, another critical factor that makes comparing CD14 in 2005 and CD10 in 1993 an intentional misrepresentation. Not apples and oranges, but apples and kumquats. (The Asian American population was also closer to 20 percent than 10).

February 09, 2005 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is June from the Venice Room the same as June Harriman?

February 09, 2005 4:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GEEZ, no wonder this one was called "panties in a bunch."

February 09, 2005 5:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, in '93, the Asian American numbers were higher; Latino was lower. Fact check, fact check!!

February 09, 2005 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Trust me Harriman Antonio Deficit Villaraigosa is no hometown favorite in CD14. Didn't you go to the mayoral debate hosted by Citywide Alliance of Neighborhood Councils? His constituents were in the stands telling anyone who would listen everytime he spoke what a liar, thief and all around scum bag their councilman was. Some people actually thanked them because they said they had no idea.

February 09, 2005 5:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The question never gets answered by Tony's Toadies, how many of the neighborhood council presidents are supporting Villaraigosa? These NC leaders are ALL about advancing the community. If ADV was moving things along and serving their communities, they'd be jumping on his bandwagon 100 percent. (YES, they CAN support, even endorse (forget all that smoke before), as "individuals," with the NC name used as an identifier. City attorney has no problem with that.

And so you don't get conned by them with bits and pieces of tiny NCs near ADV's posh digs, that are mostly in other districts -- here's the "big" numbers in that district of roughly 250K residents. Boyle Heights NC, 86,000 residents; LA32 NC (El Sereno), 43,000; Hist. Highland Park NC, 58,000; Eagle Rock NC, 33,000. These are the areas where the CD14 PEOPLE live, not the wonks and spinners.

February 09, 2005 5:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I saw 3 of the CD14 Neighborhood Council presidents and not one of them is supporting ADV. How interesting is that? Not one single one of them has openly come out to say they support ADV even as a private citizen. This will hurt Meat's feelings cause he thinks otherwise. Go on daydreaming Meat.

February 09, 2005 5:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They were all at the Mayoral Debate the other night given by Citywide Alliance of Neighborhoods

February 09, 2005 5:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was at that debate and I heard an awful lot of Antonio supporters from neighborhood councils in his district. Maybe you overheard 1 or 2 say something negative, but you must have been on the other side of the room from where I was.

Or you were the one who was telling other constituents that Antonio was bad. Bad.

Or are you the one who stomped out because Denise's hilarious jokes bashed Bush too much?

February 09, 2005 5:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You obviously are lying through your teeth and are an Antonio Deficit Villaraigosa supporter. 3 of the Neighborhood Councils from CD14 were all sitting together idiot and trust me they were all bad mouthing their councilman to everyone in the rows ahead and behind them. So again you're a Meat spin doctor but this time its not working.

February 09, 2005 6:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So is June Harriman the one from the Venice room who doesn't like Tony VILlar

February 09, 2005 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Mayor Sam I think you scared June In The Venice Room away. We haven't seen her post all week. What did you say to scare her? Wasn't she the one with the good baggage dirt on ADV?

February 09, 2005 6:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Obviously you didn't mention the Arroyo Seco Neighborhood Council because we support Antonio. It seems you are happy to tear him apart when you should be supporting him. For God's sake, every politician lies and for you idiots to recall him is laughable.

February 09, 2005 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From: South Pas Chick
Apparently June must have been scared off by Mayor Sam telling her to cough up the goods. She is probably another Antonio stalker, that happens when you are such a good looking Latino man!

February 09, 2005 7:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please do not assume all Arroyo Seco Neighborhood Council members support Antonio Villaraigosa. I, for one, do not.

February 09, 2005 8:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Be brave and tell us your name you Hahn loving scum!

February 09, 2005 8:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


hey harriman -- you are doing a good job -- using facts and figures to defend your position. I like it.

Let these dum-dums do their worst, they are all afraid they will be losing their jobs soon. Especially terry valdez. stop blogging terry, your blogs are all wrong and lies.

Facts are Alarcon and Parks aren't moving in numbers or money, anyone that says any different is lying and an idiot -- and in late breaking news, Hertzberg's much vaulted IE can't raise the dough they had hoped for, doing some random canvassing out in the field with their 100k isn't going to do much, unfortunately. Bob needs to spend something like 900k for 1000 media points, but he has spent nearly a million maybe thinking these IE's were going to be the cushion he needed. Hahn and Antonio have yet to spend their money, tracking numbers show them getting in the run-off and its a game of chicken between the two right now.

So have fun folks -- 3 weeks before the election and MEAT has called it a Villaraigosa v Hahn done deal. The meat is ready. I think hertzberg needs more than just one valley person to donate 100k to his IE.

Again everything i've ever said when it comes to insider baseball is 100% right - game over time for the general election, the primary is OVER.

blog blog away away dum-dums.

February 09, 2005 8:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat, its not Terry V posting. Its obvious your camp is running scared. Especially with the balless showing of your boss ADV in council. Even the nightly news is showing him sitting like a dog. Heard his constituents are pissed that he didn't act like a man and say anything. Shows what a weak leader he is. Arroyo Seco NC if you support ADV post your name. Meat we do post facts but you are in denial and don't want to read the truth. 7 Homicides in Boyle Heights and your boss says nothing. Hey, tell him to go to China Town and buy some of those silver balls and put between his legs.

February 09, 2005 9:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3rd Floor: Satisfied Halogirl. MEAT is right about Hertzberg who has been totally faked out by Villaraigosa. Sorry Huggy you pursued the wrong strategy. Better luck next time. It's Hahn against Villaraigosa.

February 09, 2005 10:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

An OAA (obviously ashamed anonymous) said: ". . .you didn't mention the Arroyo Seco Neighborhood Council because we support Antonio."

Oh, but it WAS mentioned, but not by name, poster said: "And so you don't get CONNED by them with BITS and PIECES of TINY NCs near ADV's posh digs (emphasis added)..." This is the smallest functioning neighborhood council in the Northeast (24K residents) and ONLY about half of it is in CD14. So your defense again the (loaded) question of "how many NC presidents elected by the real people to run CD14 residents' councils support Antonio?" is "Well, look at that group of 10,000 there -- Mt. Washington, where he lives. Stop asking us about the nearly 300K -- we just showed you a group of 10K to 12K)."

Assuming that's true, point taken. His support is minimal among the movers and shakers in the district, and even beginning to erode among the uninformed. Like that council itself, the support is split and dwindling away as they realize "nobody's home" and when Tony the Pander Bear has to start pandering to nearly 4 million people as mayor, our 12,000 won't even turn his head anymore.

(Isn't the Arroyo Seco NC where Antonio plowed over the unanimous vote of the council and had one of the member community's names removed from a park WITHIN the NC boundaries because a campaign fundraiser from OUTSIDE the NC area lobbied him and raised mayoral campaigns funds?) Must VALUE their opinion and supoort a WHOLE lot (that's sarcasm, by the way) OAA, do you really want to bring that snafu up again? More embarrassing facts keep surfacing in the district about it every day.

February 10, 2005 7:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Because ADV showed no leadership yesterday and didn't speak for his constituents on the sales tax hike (with 7 homicides in his district) he's losing more and more support. The few that did support him before his weak showing yesterday our jumping on the Alarcon and Hahn wagon. ADV is an embarrassement to Latinos citywide.

February 10, 2005 9:27 AM  

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