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Saturday, November 03, 2007

What journalistic secrets lurk in the shadows on Spring Street

What secrets are hidden under the "Journalistic Carpet" at the Los Angeles Times ??

If one was listening to the final hour of yesterday's "John and Ken Show". They were commenting on the "Buzz" from inside the "Beltway". That being Washington D.C. for the sake of disclosure. Speculation is that the "OLD GREY HAG ON SPRING STREET" is sitting on a "explosive" story. This alleged story revolves around the sex life of one of the "major candidates" for president.

Holding stories for the sake of bias and timing is nothing new to the editors at the west coast version of the "OLD GREY LADY". Plus on the timing side, if they can provide a " timely hit" on a member of the "enemy list", in the Editorial/News Room ? Then so much for objectivity. Remember a certain recall election ??, Nick Pacheco ? George Bush ? James Hahn ? Sheriff Corona ? Iraq ? But never a story on "80 Fake Neighborhood Watches" ?

It is speculation such as this. That inspired the growth of a "bloggin cottage industry" of discerning observers of all things, Los Angeles Times. Patterico and Hugh Hewitt are two that come to mind. Mind you that the Times is a "Johnny come lately" to the "Universe of Blogs". One of their own has made the "Jump" in retirement. Kevin Roderick and his "Observing West L.A. Life and his Times", almost on a daily basis, posted tales in "Times Think". His posts highlight the "unique journalistic culture" that is cut off from the realities of Los Angeles and rest of the world.

It is this unique journalistic culture that spawns "old media" scribes such as Tim Rutten. One can see his "love" for "new media". Witness Rutten's past rants against blogs and their roles in breaking stories about the Mayor's affair. Last week in his "Regarding Media" column, Rutten took "Bloggin Giant", Matt Drudge to task for posting documents on a controversial New Republic story, centered around falsehoods written by a U.S. Army soldier. It was both Hugh Hewitt and Patterico who pointed out falsehoods in Rutten's column, nothing new for the bias that is "KIM IL RUTTEN", the "Dear Leader" of "old media".

One can speculate that the unique journalistic culture at the Times has changed reporter David Zahniser. Some have opined that his "INVESTIGATED CONJONES" have been placed in a "TESTICLE LOCK BOX OF EDITING" by the "highers to be". His recent story on Richard Alatorre, coming on the back of Zuma Dogg's postings, kicked off rampant speculations to that effect. Remember, this the same Zahniser who broke the Miguel Contreras story. Will he match that in his new gig at the Times ?

That said, the answer to the original premise, lies in the Times standing within the city and "ELITE OLD MEDIA". The Times abdicated its role as a neutral observer long ago when Otis Chandler steered them leftward. Thus cementing the Times role as a left of center agenda, P.R. organ. Now its just a matter of what monkey is turning the handle. But is anyone still listening ? Then who will "post" the truth ? Hmm....

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46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zahniser is sad indeed, if his posting on Alatorre came "on the heels of zuma doggs" and there is any relation. Wet spot, are you really that desperate to try to drum up fake credibility for your fake news, which is in fact recycled from the Old Hag and many others, days later?

November 03, 2007 1:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

By the way, DZ doesn't have "investigated conjones" as far as I know. It would be unusual indeed if moving to the Old Hag meant his editors were prying down there in his nether regions, to see if he really has the "cojones" to do the job of "investigating."

November 03, 2007 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why doesnt the Times do a follow-up story on Mirthala? Is she shacking up with the Mayor at Getty House? Any taxpayer funds being used to support her? What is she doing for money? Is her valley condo for sale? Has the mayor been asking friends to hire her? Are they still and item? Does she accompany him to public events? Has the Times asked her for an interview? What about the divorce proceedings? Anybody bothered to take a look at the court file lately? So far we get no follow up from the Times. What the heck is going on??? This is a juicy little story and its getting totally ignored by the Times. Why? Probably because of a combination of factors including 1) the reporters and editors are sympathetic to the fashionable "progressive" politics of the mayor 2) they feel uncomfortable because of the embarrassing personal nature of the Mirthala story 3) they feel reluctant to bag on a Hispanic politician 4) they feel indebted to the mayor and his top lieutenants for news tips on other stories.

November 03, 2007 2:00 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

1:55 and 1:57,

How is the "PIRATE CATCHING BUSINESS" ??

November 03, 2007 2:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Geez, Red Dot, are you so paranoid that EVERYONE who disagrees with you is Jack Hoff?

November 03, 2007 2:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:48, Red Spot dreams of being Jack Hoff, but the closest he can be is just a jackoff...

November 03, 2007 2:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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It used to be we had reporters who reported the FACTS. Now it’s all about CONTROL, which the newspaper owners decide what they want to convey. This is truly sad when taking the First Amendment into consideration.

November 03, 2007 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Where's Mirthala?

November 03, 2007 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And where is the Blognet standing?

Are we Number One yet?

November 03, 2007 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I wish Red Spot, "would have posteded" the truth about who "wroted" this story.

I s33 his grammar is improved, R3d Spot must hav3 "haded" his littl3 sist3r writ3 th3 story.

November 03, 2007 3:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Another reason why City Hall settles with fired GMs is the fact that they know a lot of dirty secrets. Mayor knows they'd probably reveal their secrets if they didn't get some going away money. Some very bad things happen every day in the various departments, especially LAPD, LAFD and Animal Services. The employees commit crimes daily. It's a good ole boy system so people rarely talk.

November 03, 2007 3:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's think about the Hillary Clinton and Sheriff Carona stories.

Sheriff Carona is facing a 10 count federal indictment for bribery and corruption.

Hillary Clinton is facing rumors about a lesbian affair, from the likes of the three stooges on this blog.

Which story should the Los Angeles Times print?

The grammatically challenged stooge, believes the Los Angels Times should print the Hillary Clinton story.

Tell me folks, what do you think?

November 03, 2007 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:23- that was so sad.

No, you don't work for MAV aka Hillary's national campaign co-chairman or anything.

Now please excuse me while I go weep.

November 03, 2007 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What story about Hillary lesbian scandal? I didn't see that one by the three stooges, whoever they are? Can someone please repost it here?

November 03, 2007 4:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/2007/10/31/halloween-hillary-huma-and-hidden-sex-affair-story/

Start refreshing Drudge for this complete non-story. lol

November 03, 2007 4:58 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

Spinning hard for a weekend. Is Trujillo paying overtime ?

November 03, 2007 5:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hillary is going to end up handing it to the Republicans. Wait till the "S" hits the fan down the campaign road.

November 03, 2007 5:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I wonder "what monkey is turning the handles of Mayor Sam?" The grammar is atrocious. Speaking of journalistic integrity, this blogger has none.

November 03, 2007 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

November 03, 2007 5:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Hillary Campaign has been in crisis mode since she waffle on the Drivers License issue. "The guys were ganging up on the girl". "Tim Russert is bias". "Red Spot can't wrote".

The net result is this. "If it sounds like Spin. Walks like spin. Then it is spin.

Keep at it guys, your pay chek is coming from "Red China" anyways. Or is it Kevin Kaul ?

November 03, 2007 5:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hillary Problems,

Gaunt and glancing nervously at reporters, disgraced Democratic moneyman Norman Hsu appeared in a California court yesterday and agreed to spend another 10 weeks behind bars while his lawyers do "research."

The surprise delay raised eyebrows because Hsu's lawyers had filed motions asking the court to refund the $2 million bail he skipped out on in September and toss his 1992 fraud conviction altogether.

The postponement could signal anything from plea deal discussions to a ploy to fend off federal prosecutors in New York, who recently accused Hsu of a separate $60 million Ponzi scheme, one expert said.

"We're doing more research. These things take time," Hsu's lawyer, James Brosnahan, said after the judge postponed the case until Jan. 4.

Columbia law Prof. Daniel Richman said California and New York authorities could be in "some sort of negotiation toward a global resolution" of Hsu's cases.

"It might also serve [Hsu's] purposes to stall until the presidential campaign is over," Richman said.

"It's not because the federal charges will go away, but it might be a more hospitable environment."

November 03, 2007 6:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It’s great to have this way of communication. If we relied on the L.A. Times we would not know anything of worth. We have to find out the truth from other sources. In reading all these post and for what I know, we have a complete dysfunctional City Hall, but we must be dysfunctional too because we are allowing it to happen. The Mayor, the Councilmen are in those positions to serve the people. They are not in those positions to grant favors to friends or family members. They were not elected so they can give questionable permits to their supporters or to become wealthy in the process with shady deals. Our job is to stop treating them as Hollywood Stars or royalty and make them accountable. THEY ARE SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE AND WE MUST HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

November 03, 2007 5:57 PM

November 03, 2007 6:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One poll finding this week that shook Democrats came in a survey conducted by Democracy Corps, a consortium organized by party consultants Stan Greenberg, Al Quinlan and James Carville. It asked voters to pick two from a list of seven problems that explain "why the country is going in the wrong direction."

The survey found that among independent voters, 40 percent -- by far the largest group -- picked this option: "Our borders have been left unprotected and illegal immigration is growing."

November 03, 2007 7:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What story about Hillary lesbian scandal? I didn't see that one by the three stooges, whoever they are? Can someone please repost it here?

November 03, 2007 4:51 PM

It has been common knowlege for a long time that Hillary was in the closet. This came out when Bill was running. It surfaced again after she became the Senator.

I would say...the girls all know

November 03, 2007 7:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Michael :
The LA Times is sitting on a story until they sort out the ethics? That proves that it's about a Democrat. I don't recall that the LAT pondered the ethics or even the accuracy of Arnold Schwarzenegger scandal stories before the 2003 California gubernatorial recall and election.

November 03, 2007 7:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Only thing for sure is it's NOT the Edwards story which was going around. Allegedly had an affair with a female fundraiser/ staffer who traveled with him to exotic locales, but has since been let go to squash the rumors.

With biggest thing he's got going for him is standing by his cancer-ridden wife, that would have done him in.

If it's Hilary, would be funny if the first female leading presidential candidate is also gay. If that comes after the election it could be cool -- would also give Bill a pass for his past. Or maybe it's just cruel stereotyping since she's become heavy and that hair~

If it's a Republican and the story comes out when it's too late to spin control, like with Arnold, that would kill his chances. Who is that? A lot of them already have younger or attractive wives.

There's been idle talk that Rudy had a gay fling with the guys who put him up after his split, but that one just sounds too easy. If he were bi, he'd not have stayed with them, would have hidden it.

Could Romney the Mormon have had an extra wife or two?

November 03, 2007 8:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From "WJC",

Bill laughed and said (referring to Hillary): "Honey - she’s probably eaten more p—y than I have."Wow… am I the only one that can’t wait for another Clinton to say, "I never had sex with that women."http://www.wyomingway.com/hillary_clinton.htm

November 03, 2007 8:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since MAV's career is tied to Hillary winning, and many Hillary big-money people hover around MAV (Swiller), and the LAT reporters seem incapable of reporting against MAV's wishes, who do YOU think the story is about?

The real question is what happens AFTER Hillary self-destructs. Is the US really ready for a black president? Can Edwards pull it together?

November 03, 2007 8:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just a thought,

Maybe Tony will make aplay for Hillary's personal asst. Straight or gay, she is fine.

November 03, 2007 8:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hilary should come clean with her preference. If she doesn't, then she isn't in it for the sake of the party. 'Not surprising. 'Looks like she got a bit too cocky, so to speak.
The Times should report this before the dems chose their person. If they do so afterwards, one could argue they are pushing for the Republican candidate.
I wonder what the misogynous Mayor Viagra will say about this.

November 03, 2007 8:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No I didn't her but a sheriff caught her in her office, with a women. Doesn't she live with her in Pasadena?

November 03, 2007 10:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

PICTURE OF THE SOUTHWEST MUSEUM
It is located on Mount Washington in the Northeast area.
IT IS LOS ANGELES FIRST MUSEUM, it houses a collection worth more than a billion dollars. The Autry National Center has created a web of deception to take over the collection and abandon the building. Jackie Autry’s life is about ambition, she is going to have that collection of the Southwest Museum no matter who she hurts or what lies she has to fabricate. She can buy the best lawyers and politicians to do her dirty work. She’s done it before in l985 when she bought five councilmen to give her the permit to build the Gene Autry Museum on public land for one dollar a year. Now Jackie Autry wants to expand the Autry Museum. Who are the councilmen that will give her the permit against the will of the people?

November 03, 2007 10:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now Jackie Autry wants to expand the Autry Museum. Who are the councilmen that will give her the permit against the will of the people?

Huizar, Reyes, Garcetti, LaBonge and the Mayor.

November 03, 2007 11:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bill Maher's people caught Obama on tape checking out Hilary's butt after the last debate. "If you're going to tell someone not to play the chick card, don't be checking out her butt at the same time." Look on his face, like he was checking out an acqueduct or piece of architecture, more than a piece of a's, really hilarious. What does this say about his interests?

November 04, 2007 3:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA Slimes will be out of business soon if they don't clean up their act. I know a lot of people who canceled their papers because of the bullshit puff pieces and non investigative stories they print. David Z. has become the most disappointing of all. We all were hoping for the hard hitting investigative journalism he did at Weekly. Read his stories now and they start off like he's got a someone then subsides into "oh well" attitude leaving out the facts. Blogs are the way of the future. More and more people are going to internet for gossip, news, etc. Local tv and newspapers will soon be gone. Speaking of HIllary there are a hell of a lot of Latinos voting for Obama just because Antonio is the co-chairman of HIllary's campaign. We all figure if you can be that stupid to have a lying, cheating, no accomplishment do nothing mayor in that position you're too stupid to be president.

November 04, 2007 6:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here it is:

The Midget Mexican Mechista Mayor is having a hot and heavy affair with Hillary Clinton.

The shady LA Slimes is sitting on the story because it is controlled by The Midget Mexican Mechista Mayor.

November 04, 2007 7:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"The shady LA Slimes is sitting on the story because it is controlled by The Midget Mexican Mechista Mayor."

The story, if released, will be released by politicos a lot bigger than Midget Mexican Mechista Mayor or the the Mexican Mafia. It is being controlled by State and Federal players.

November 04, 2007 7:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's see, if you have a lying, cheating, no accomplishment do nothing mayor in that position you're too stupid to be president.

But, if you have a lying, cheating, no accomplishment do nothing (except get blow jobs) President for a husband, it is perfectly fine for you to be President.

Now, that makes a lot of sense to me.

Dump the Midget Mexican Mechista Mayor and keep the lying, cheating do nothing, blow job President for a husband, Hillary, then you've got this dummy's vote for sure.

November 04, 2007 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dang that elite media, sitting on a juicy story instead of rushing to publish it to appease idle gossip.

That is the job of blogs like this, where people have been spinning their wheels and speculating and salivating over what the Times actually knows.

No wonder they hate real journalists so much -- all that scandal their little minds are deprived from.

Maybe one of the candidates taps his toes in the bathroom? Maybe Obama, with his Afro-American butt fetish, has the hots for Hilary?

When our pols have the guts to do what Sarkozy did from France, just rip off the mike and walk off when a paparazzi-press person asks an impertinent question, we can also mature as a society and focus on the important issues not gossip.

November 04, 2007 10:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bill Clinton did that once to CBS when they pepper him with Whitewater questions.

November 04, 2007 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:05 is right. LAT is going down the tubes fast. They have no credibility, the paper continues to lose circulation, and there is still no plan for its future after the sale of its parent company.

Look at the sports section: LAT just lost J.A. Adande to ESPN. A smart guy doesn't leave unless he sees the writing on the wall.

T.J. Simers said it when he had his morning show: the future of journalism is online, not in newspapers.

It's the perfect storm: rapidly declining ad revenue, rapidly declining credibility, and rapidly declining readership.

Your preview of this will be the L.A. Daily News. Look at how thin it is, especially in the business section. The "Snooze" will close within 5 years.

I have a gut feeling LAT won't be far behind.

November 04, 2007 10:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since the Tribune took over the Times they've cut corners to save money and because they have a superior attitude towards Los Angeles. The Times writers prefer Zell to the Tribune, and think that if Geffen buys it like he's rumored to want to, he'll put the energy and resources into it to remake it as a powerful paper. The MSM is not dead yet, there's no substitute for the hundred or so years of cred that has gone into the L A and N Y Times. Yes they have a political bias reflecting the owners and chief editors, but they refrain from publishing heresay and rumor. Unlike the Three Churros or blogs.

November 05, 2007 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Or 2 PM, nobody really gives a hoot. We don't care what the electeds do in their personal lives. We have enough to complain about in their professional careers.

Stop caring.

Just like nobody cared about Clinton getting it in the Oval office, nobody cares about the Mayor getting it wherever.

The Mayor does plenty enough despicable things (on advice from former Riordan staffers instead of the Mayor doing the great things he could be if he tried and didn't just give in to them).

So forget about Mirthala and Corina and get on the Mayor about important issues he's ignoring.

November 06, 2007 12:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ooh 2:58-

How did you come up with that witty repartee?

You are some kind of smart!

November 06, 2007 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Poor 3:14-

You have some really bad self esteem issues. You should work on that. Your own jokes aren't funny especially when directed at the expense of a stranger. I bet you're hideous.

November 06, 2007 12:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:48 - you're clueless. You're accusing LAPD, LAFD and Animal Services as being the worst for the City?

What about Planning, Rec and Parks, Bureau of Sanitation and a few other really bad, bad employees?

Everybody ignores the secrets. These crimes have been going on forever.

It's part of the good old "white boy" network and has noting to do with General Managers.

November 06, 2007 12:37 AM  

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