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Monday, November 19, 2007

Villaraigosa's One Second Appearance on American Music Awards Cost Los Angeles Taxpayers $20,000

Did you see Mayor Antonio Viagraosa on Dick Clark's American Music Awards, last night? I hope so. Because even though the City has declared a financial emergency, it was still able to pick up the $20,000 "special event waiver fee" for Disney/ABC. I wonder how much the American Music Awards broadcast made for Disney/ABC? I know how much it cost the City of Los Angeles to have them cut to Mayor Puppetonio for one second for a crowd shot...$20,000! IS A NATIONAL BROADCAST OF A COMMERCIAL EVENT THE REASON WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENT FEE WAIVERS? Was the event free and open to the public in the community's best interest? That's what defines a "special event fee waiver".

"Approval of this request will mean that an estimated $20,000 in fees and salary costs will be absorbed by the City. "

[Wonder what the ACTUAL cost was, not just some shady city hall estimation.]



Anonymous Anonymous said:

shut up, you fool. it's not about sponsoring the Mayor to show up, but to support the Awards. New York and other cities like Nashville also vie for the chance to host these awards, do you know how much peripheral attention, PR and bus they bring in?

Your tard appearances at city hall promoting your own no-talent music and comedy or so you call it, have cost much more wasted human resources. Not to mention your fool companions matt and hunt with their frivolous lawsuits and crude behavior which even set Bernie off.

You're not even a taxpayer, so your "we demand" this and that is worse than hypocritical. Nor are you a parent in the school system, nor anything but a nuisance and paranoid deleter of posts.

Which can be reposted and reposted. If you're going to make accusations you have to deal with it.

November 19, 2007 11:49 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:


So I guess that's a "FOR" $20,000 (estimated) staying with Dick Clark/Disney/ABC for this commercial profit-fest instead of the non-profit community events it was intended for?

Just cause it's "good" for the City doesn't mean it should be paid for in this way. That's not what special event fee waivers were intended for.

Especially in this time of "emergency".

November 19, 2007 11:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is not the one to pick on when it comes to fee waivers for reasons poster said. Plenty more is wasted on localized parades and block parties elsewhere. Events like this and the Emmy's, Oscars are vital.

If you want to know what sorts of things the fee waiver covers, fine, ask the appropriate dept. -- maybe the barricades and cleanup, security? When you consider how much that stuff must have really cost, if the sponsor companies pick up the rest, that's pretty good.

November 19, 2007 11:56 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:


i know what you are saying regarding, "vital"/"bigger fish", but this is one annoying fish -- and what do you mean, "if the sponsor company picks up the rest?" what rest? and what is it about, "for non-profit, open to the public" don't you people understand? is the AMA's non-profit, open to the public? this isn't a debate as to whether the city should be nice and pick up the tab for one of America's wealthiest corporations, or not.

this is about "special event fee waivers", and the AMAs is NOT what they are for.

the special event fee waiver is not a "general fund" to decide what should be paid for because it's good for the city.

if you CHARGED Dick Clark a $20,000 "special event fee" to throw the event in LA, he would pay it without blinking...you think they can have attendance of all those stars and pay for all the crew to host it out of town? Let 'em go to "wherever else". THEY WON'T.

But this isn't about that discussion...this is about special event fee waivers being for non-profit events, open to the public in the best interest of the community. so even if you say it is in the best interest of LA, it ain't non-profit, open to the public.


November 19, 2007 12:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Okay, Tard-Man. here you go. I live here. I own a home here. I work here. I pay property taxes here. I'm a parent with a kid in the school system. And I support what the Z-Dogg has to say. Wanna tell me I'm a fool and to shut up too? I don't think so. I have every right to demand this, demand that, and demand whatever I damn well please. And you, Tard-Man, a.k.a., Joe Avila, are going to have to sit there and take it, so deal with THAT.


November 19, 2007 12:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes sucker, I think you're a fool too and should shut up. Don't believe you own a candlestick, either, you're clearly clueless. You can demand and yell anything you want, just do it here on this blog on your own time, don't take up the daily time of our paid representatives to do it, but since you've got a job and a kid, right, you're too busy to do that.

Go ahead and rant to each other about $20,ooo and debate if it's really non-profit, whatever, yell in the middle of the street for all anyone cares.

November 19, 2007 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am a taxpayer and I do understand the importance of large events in stimulating business and revenue for the city. But, hey, that doesn't mean we should give away the store to companies and organizations that are making money off of activities that include "free" city services. Wasn't it the mayor who recently said we should be doing away with these event waiver fees? Yeh, amen to that. Including events where he wants to be seen and to work the $$$crowd.

November 19, 2007 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Funny thing is no one in entertainment of the music industry likes AV. They also call him a low life Mexican with no class or manners. Why do you think the WGA said NO to him when he offered to help negoitate contract?

Its always now Disney and ABC getting top perks from Antonio and the city. I've noticed them on all banners and logos all over at events. AND Antonio has given Disney and ABC tons of certificates in city hall. So what if events like Oscars, Emmys etc. give LA good pr they still make millions on corporate sponsors and advertisement. They are having their events here for a reason. Send them the list of the nations worst cities. LA isn't on it. You can't say the city is in a state of emergency then spend this type of money like nothing.

November 19, 2007 12:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I'm a taxpayer and I totally agree with Zumma Dogg. Our city council and mayor can't have it both ways. They can't declare an "emergency" so that they can conveniently put a phony phone tax on the ballot and then turn around and give $20,000 vouchers to a multi-billion dollar for-profit company for their for-mega-profit telecast. Keep it up Zuma Dogg!! Go away 11:49.

November 19, 2007 1:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

L A almost lost the Oscars to New York a few years ago, because the old threatre (Shrine, I think) was so bad with poor sightlines and old seats, and other problems.

The Kodak Theatre is one concession to get them to stay. It is a huge thing to have these awards here -- you want to see bad p r, have people saying that we couldn't even keep Hollywood industry "star" events in Hollywood.

The Kodak, Staples Center, now the Nokia, all enable us to compete with state of the art theatres, plus bring in big shows -- whose fans go to dinner, hotels, etc.

If you want to go after fee waivers start with all the marches and parades in Boyle Heights etc. If you want to find out just what these "waivers" pay for in these cases, by all means do so and tell us.

If CBS/Disney are picking up the tab then great. Anyway, isn't it NBC/ Universal that's got the deal pending they want approved, so what's the potential conflict? Any entertainment company that picks up the tab for an event like this, good.

As for WGA not wanting the Mayor's help: neither side wants anyone's.

November 19, 2007 1:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:19 shows the dangers of democracy. If they administered a basic IQ and civics test to voters, we'd cut more than 3/4 of the voting rolls, which would be a good thing.

November 19, 2007 1:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ironic that the Mayor asked for no fee waivers, yet atended an event where the fees were waived.

Either his staff is checking things out, or AVs ego is so big he actually thinks he belongs at an event like this. Either way, whenever politios show up at non political events, they end up looking like they don't belong. Most likely he figured he can troll for an MTV dancer or award presenter with extremely low self esteem.

If all fee waivers were banned, this discussion woulndn'tneed to take place.

And aside from NY, award show will stay in LA because thats where most of the preformers live, the production companies don't want to add to their expenses paying for airfare,hotel, chaffeur, restaurants, aand staff and production crewws going off to Miami, or elsewhere. The industry is here and NY, it will alternate every couple years, that's the nature of their biz. The City biz is to care for the public trust, not pander and bend over for the first celebrity that asks a favor. They are as cheap as the next person and will accept any freebie they can get, thing is they learned long ago to ask and you'll recieve a good percentage of the time, City pols never learned to say no. Sordid

November 19, 2007 1:44 PM  

Anonymous zuma's press deputy said:


Are you being stubborn on purpose?

Don't you understand that the "special event fee waiver" is not about "business enticement" or economic development?

November 19, 2007 2:16 PM  

Anonymous Zuma Doug said:

No, little dude-dog, special waivers are about making people feel special. And, dude, if people feel special they spend more green in your locale. The parking lot attendants prolly made an easy $20K that night. If there's no gig, nobody makes any money.

November 19, 2007 2:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Keep another thing in mind: ABC/Disney isn't even in the city of LA. They're in Burbank. So El Alcalde Viagrasosa is giving away freebies to major media companies that aren't even in the city!

Gee, who knew that he'd pander to the media?? Guess what. It won't get him re-elected. He's so screwed. It's not like he has skills to take to a LAW FIRM, since's not a member of the California Bar.

November 19, 2007 2:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

to the idiot who keeps posting Boyle Heights special event waiver how about Bitter Bernie's thousands for his rich friends at USC, Jan Perry's friends at the LA Mart Jewelry Huge Show and Designer show, the Nation of Islam crap she spent on naming a square after them, the Hollywood Parade that just for the coordinator is costing $175,000 that's not counting all the cops, traffic officers, street services. Yes, how much did those damn illegal marches cost the city? Dumb ass reporters refuse to report those numbers and why? What are they afraid of? What about all the crap Huizar waives for Eagle Rock? Reyes waives for MacArthur Park, and the list goes on. The amount for special event waivers is over $10 million and no one has the balls to print the truth.

November 19, 2007 4:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NBC Universal has been showering the Mayor and PLUM Committee members with tickets to star-studded events at Universal Studios and other NBC Universal events. They want to whet the appetite of AV, Reyes, Weiss, and Huizar for the perks of being good friends to the friendly little studio that wants to build a huge project on the back of Universal's land and to build a big honking headquarters building in NOHO. Rest assured the gift tickets and fun for the politicos will flow as long as NBC Universal has projects pending.

November 19, 2007 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What events?

November 19, 2007 7:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just to add a bit more to this love fest- you don't have to have a child in the LAUSD or even have a child, for that matter, in order to be concerned with the state of affairs in any related area.

We all will feel the effects, and suffer the consequences of the district failing to maintain any credible form of an educational system. You can be a retiree or even an homeless person and still have a legitimate interest in how the students are educated or not educated.

Even people who what illegals who are students might pause to consider that NOT offering education will perpetuate or worsen the social environnment. Do we want a bunch of thugs instead? (We still might wind up with that product anyway, but we should WANT improvement, from an educational perspective, for everyone.

THAT might be something that the Mayor (oops, I take that back) the council should consider improving, stop being such star-struck fools, and excercise a bit of frugality. In education, it's got a specific terminology: "modelling" the desired behavior you want to see in your subject.

Instead, we just see more and more self-indulgence and greed in the guise of public service.

IN cd-14- (Some of Huizar's help IS good, but it's not especially an intentioal outcome. Sorry, Jose. Stop bleeding event fee waivers- show some leadership.)


November 19, 2007 7:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, this town under the UTLA/Duffy, combined with the old Board leaders, sure did a great job educating our kids, squandering funds, etc. That's why LAUSD came in 11th out of 11 big school districts in the country, and that's with a slight recent improvement.

It's also why the Valley has wanted to secede from the school system for years, it's nearly impossible to get into a good private school even at 24 thou average, worst on the westside although they're proliferating elsewhere, too (did you see the front page of the Times? That's the tip of the iceberg -- those people pay whatever it takes plus into the building funds, because there are no non-sucky schools, except for a few elementary ones, no middle or high schools that aren't full of gangs in LAUSD.

No one who in the last 20 years has sent their kids to the crap schools assigned BHPO, and same until you get to the Santa Monca/ Malibu school district. But even their high school has had gang shootings, a lot of busing.)

Our being 11th out of 11 school districts shows neither the brown nor black kids, nor middle classes who are forced to opt out hence sinking test scores even further, are being served. Yes, hundreds of millions are being wasted, not even towards education but building on toxic waste dumps, payroll failures and other junk.

We have the bulk of the state's illegals, and we're not a Christian charity but must begin to be balanced, and the state needs to give us more money -- but LAUSD just had to give back hundreds of millions to the state due to messed up paperwork.

Yes, it sure as hell DOES matter more if you have kids, because if you don't, you're not paying for private schools, AND for public, it's easy to have a general concern. At least the Mayor has started to bring things up in one small way -- remember, he wanted to reform the whole LAUSD but Duffy/ UTLA wouldn't hear of giving up their decades of failure.

The one area I'll fault the Mayor and his liberal Latino and other allies, is encouraging more illegals to come here by making us a sanctuary city and refusing to work with our feds on a compromise to stem this illegal immigration; some like Alarcon openly hold conferences advocating we give free universal health care to any Latino who comes here from anywhere in "Latinismo."

We can't do this or accept unlimited illegals from China, the Filipines or India, nor "Latinismo." We can't begin to control our domestic and local situation until this is done.

And as for the silly topic of this thread as though this amount of money is what matters and the stupid comments likening fee waivers for an event like this to a march in Boyle Hts or McArthur Park --- sure.

UTLA is doing the same thing to Brewer as to the Mayor -- read today's Daily News Op Ed blasting Never-Resisted-A- Chance-to-Hang Onto Failure Duffy. Then think before you blame everything from failed education to draught on the Mayor.

November 19, 2007 8:29 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

You can hate on the Dogg but he makes a good point.

Most of you do not.

What does the city get for this $20,000 investment, indeed for a multi-million dollar event what's 20K? That's like Bill Gates taking a trip to Hawaii and begging McDonalds to give him free fries.

Sure it can be argued that the Oscars, etc. bring some benefits to the city. But if they weren't here about 98% of the people wouldn't even notice.

One of the posters made an excellent point - these event waivers are not what's keeping the entertainment industry and these shows from bolting to New York or Arizona or wherever. They want to be here, they live here, they work here and its a major pain in the butt to up and leave.

Yes many of the event waivers for community events are abused and not effective. But honestly its the local neighborhoods and community groups that have far more impact on LA than the Oscars or Dick Clark and could use the event waivers far more.

Good job ZD!

November 19, 2007 11:38 PM  

Anonymous Zuma Dog's Master said:

OK, insecure loser crybaby, I told you not to delete posts, and you don't listen, so here you go.

Zuma, you little pussy. I'll post under whatever name I chose.

You are Dave Elliott and chose to use the stupid name of Zuma Dogg. I choose to use the name Zuma's Daddy, because I am your Daddy. Now, I choose Zuma Dog's Master. Every Dog has a Master, I am yours.

You will ultimately bend to my will, so stop trying to act like a man and go back to being the pussy that you are. Only pussies delete things that are upsetting to them; real men deal with it straight on.

But you kept it up, so now I am posting it all over the Internet, anywhere and everywhere.

Grow up Dave and quit this insecure chickenshit attitude you have adopted of deleting posts that criticize you. What happened to your balls? Did Matt take them?

Remember, Dave, the sting is worse than the delete.

The biggest crybaby loser of them all, ZD, censoring. What irony!!!!

He whines like a two year old every time a Council Chair shuts him down for being out of line or off topic.

Yes, ZD, you whiny, insecure bitch, every person in the blogsphere now knows you are an insecure crybaby loser. Stop the deleting or pay the price.

Face the truth; the truth will make you free.

November 20, 2007 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why isn't Weiss Ass saying anything about this? Two years ago he put out a press release about the abuse. Now, he's acting like a pussy and keeping quiet. If he really wanted to become city attorney now is the time to come out swinging. Ron Deaton did a huge report in 2003 showing these morons how to streamline special event waivers and use them properly for non profits. WHY HAS THAT REPORT BEEN SITTING IN BUDGET FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH BITTER BERNIE FOR ALL THIS TIME AND NOT MOVED TO FULL COUNCIL????? WHY AREN'T REPORTERS GOING AFTER THAT STORY??

November 20, 2007 7:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Was there a point to the last Post?
Sorry, I missed it.

November 20, 2007 7:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:15 refers to 12:34
Zuma Dogg is tackling issues the main stream media only hides from.
There are many people looking for the truth,and are getting it from Zuma Dogg.

If all you have time to do is rant and rave, Get A Life!

The people of this City, need people like Zuma Dogg, to tell it like it is.
If you are whining, You, are part of the problem.

I have already seen positive changes thanks to Zuma Dogg,

What changes have you made?

Throw Zuma a "Scooby Snack"!

November 20, 2007 7:26 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

remember, the big posts i deleted were about someone's weight and eating habits. pussy-jock-strap-holder didn't even bother to attack her on any issues or conduct. just poking fun at a woman's weight and eating habits.

As much as I am opposed to her policy and conduct (the person being attacked over weight issues) -- that doesn't mean I want to sit back and let some loser "clog" up the blog and try and divert the thread topic with a bunch of 2nd grade "fat" jokes.

So then you can say for the rest of your life that "ZD deletes posts", as if any one cares besides you.

So nice try...to can scream, and cry and whine and squirm all you want. Have a nice day wrapping your whole life up with Zuma Dogg. (Got your mind on your Zuma, and your Zuma on your mind...just the way I planned it from day one!)

November 20, 2007 7:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Maybe this is what the Politicians are afraid of?

If everyone eligible,Registered and Voted, for the people Zuma Dogg chose...

He could change the WORLD!

November 20, 2007 8:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam at 11:38: You are so stupid you make zuma seem smart, and that's really something. After several people explained to you exactly "what the city gets for their (chickenshit) $20,000" and why these events are important to the city, you ask it again, as though you'd just discovered the wheel.

Justify yourselves all you want, you keep proving over and over that even if you delete half the posts, you can't spin the fool dogg into anything but what he's made of himself, how he's presented himself.

November 20, 2007 10:02 AM  

Blogger O Pechanga said:

Not only was there a waiver, but the MAYOR, kicked out all the bacon dog vendors. The car show and bacon dogs go hand in hand. The cops on duty said the mayor had them and the porta potties taken out.


November 20, 2007 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please, please, please stay on topic. The rest is a) useless, b) repetitive and c) time-consuming.

Everyone knows that some posters don't like ZD and think he wastes time (on free speech?).

Everyone knows that ZD puts in self-promoting crap now and then.

Every post/thread just shouldn't devolve into stupidity.

Off-topic BS is greatly detracting from the blog.

November 20, 2007 4:25 PM  

Anonymous ptomaine alert said:

4:25, I can't resist responding to 4:12...

Apparently, the mayor waived any requirement that bacon dogs go hand in hand with a car show. As for the port-a-potties, did you really have to mention port-a-potties and bacon dogs ("them") in the same sentence?

I now return you to the topic on the thread.

November 20, 2007 10:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dog is a port-a-pottie for idiots who think they can actually change the way other folks act.

Que sera, sera.

Give it up folks; if all you have is a hope that Zuma will cure your ills, you need to return to prayer and find some other conduit.

He can barely sustain himself on the alms he gets from begging donations for food, coffee and bus money.

How's he gonna help you?

November 22, 2007 10:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

By exposing what others won't say, that's how. And he does it in a hilarious way and he is dead on.

Why do you fear him?

November 22, 2007 10:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fear him? No one fears him, except when he ventures near and you have to smell him, or he starts his sing song, off-key ranting, in which case I fear for my eardrums.

No, no one fears him, but many are offended by his appearance and odors and behavior.

Not many wait around to hear the message, which, occasionally can be useful. But, then again, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

November 23, 2007 3:44 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

No one fears him...except when he starts his sing song.

Hey pal...how DARE you! You have a problem with THIS singing? No I know you have no credibility.
click here

And if i had a dollar every time you used that "even a blind squirrel" example, I'd be a rich man!

November 23, 2007 10:05 PM  

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