Today in Council
Note to Jim Hahn regarding campaign strategy.
Jim, when your opponent wants to bring up a subject that you don't want to be brought up, or if your opponent uses maneuvers in Council to highlight a sensitive subject. Sometimes, and only sometimes it's best to roll-over and pretend your opponent is wasting their time and whatever tactic your opponent is trying doesn't faze you.
Wonder why this strategy works? Simple, it doesn't give the media any story to cover, there is no clash to cover, just some arcane council maneuvering that no voter would understand.
Instead you have your council colleagues fight a Prop. 5 maneuver.
Dumb, very dumb. Some (MEAT) might even call you a dun-dum for it.
Today in council Tony Villar supporters tried to Prop 5 the airport concession contracts over the Airport Commission.
The vote was 6-5, they needed 8 votes for Prop 5 to kick in.
The 5 councilpeople against invoking Prop 5 were all Jim Hahn supporters. Made something that would not have been covered, covered.
I fully expect the LA Times and Daily News to cover this non-story story, which was only turned into a story because of Hahn supporters. Which means tomorrow Angelinos are going to wake up right into another Pay to Play story, nicely fitting in Tony Villar's strategy.
I want a battle -- not a stomping.
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH UPDATE.
Right now I have found over 84 neighborhood watches, i need to know how many were in the district before Tony Villar became a Councilmember.
I am finding most of the Neighborhood watches by calling Hollenbeck and Northeast pretending to live in different neighborhoods, it's working. I don't want to call the Villaraistas mainly because i think they will feed me biased info.
Please e-mail the chief.
Debate note: This sunday at the Museum of Tolerance - The Chief will be watching. The Chief will be in attendance.
Jim, when your opponent wants to bring up a subject that you don't want to be brought up, or if your opponent uses maneuvers in Council to highlight a sensitive subject. Sometimes, and only sometimes it's best to roll-over and pretend your opponent is wasting their time and whatever tactic your opponent is trying doesn't faze you.
Wonder why this strategy works? Simple, it doesn't give the media any story to cover, there is no clash to cover, just some arcane council maneuvering that no voter would understand.
Instead you have your council colleagues fight a Prop. 5 maneuver.
Dumb, very dumb. Some (MEAT) might even call you a dun-dum for it.
Today in council Tony Villar supporters tried to Prop 5 the airport concession contracts over the Airport Commission.
The vote was 6-5, they needed 8 votes for Prop 5 to kick in.
The 5 councilpeople against invoking Prop 5 were all Jim Hahn supporters. Made something that would not have been covered, covered.
I fully expect the LA Times and Daily News to cover this non-story story, which was only turned into a story because of Hahn supporters. Which means tomorrow Angelinos are going to wake up right into another Pay to Play story, nicely fitting in Tony Villar's strategy.
I want a battle -- not a stomping.
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH UPDATE.
Right now I have found over 84 neighborhood watches, i need to know how many were in the district before Tony Villar became a Councilmember.
I am finding most of the Neighborhood watches by calling Hollenbeck and Northeast pretending to live in different neighborhoods, it's working. I don't want to call the Villaraistas mainly because i think they will feed me biased info.
Please e-mail the chief.
Debate note: This sunday at the Museum of Tolerance - The Chief will be watching. The Chief will be in attendance.
Posted by Anonymous @ 4/15/2005 07:17:00 PM
70 Comments:
Three were enough for Bush and Kerry, I think three are enough for Villaraigosa and Hahn.
But Hahn doesn't. He wants a lot.
The thing is, there were @ forty in the primary. Antonio was at every single one.
Hahn was at six(6) SIX.
What goes around, comes around.
Question: How many people will be watching this debate on T.V.?
Answer: Not as many as attend it live.
This is a non-event unless Villaraigosa steps on his dick.
I suspect we may hear about Stem Cells, myself.
I also suspect we may NOT hear about neighborhood watches or museums, or dog parks, or CD 14.
Will we hear about corruption?
Will we hear about Vignali?
Will we hear about "trust"?
Will we hear about Stem Cells?
Does anyone in the City of LA, outside of the bloggers on this site really give a rat's ass?
They know that their potholes are not being fixed and their taxes are too high and the traffic sucks.
Read the polls, Jimmy, and save yourself the embarrassment.
Sit this one out in New Zealand.
Busy, busy, busy bees.
Trying very hard to keep V at ease.
Busy, busy, busy bees.
Stop getting down on your knees.
All the above posts are boring, and a bunch of ranting...Will this blog have any hope?
Villaraigosa=higher crime, stagnation, happy hours for his socialist staff- and oh yea, put up those signs kids, we are off to fight the maching, we are a unique species and this land is our land, not their land===just don't tell them I told you, remember, I am the candidate of all people, they have to believe this, they just have to. Villaraigosa leaves the room.....
Humor me...
Before you anal spelling people start ranting...I made the minor correction...Yes, some of us do sleep...but we don't snort the white stuff. We are drug free, and do not request for criminals to get pardoned...we believe in accountabilty.
Busy, busy, busy bees.
Trying very hard to keep V at ease.
Busy, busy, busy bees.
Stop getting down on your knees.
All the above posts are boring, and a bunch of ranting...Will this blog have any hope?
Villaraigosa=higher crime, stagnation, happy hours for his socialist staff- and oh yea, put up those signs kids, we are off to fight the machine, we are a unique species and this land is our land, not their land===just don't tell them I told you, remember, I am the candidate of all people, they have to believe this, they just have to. Villaraigosa leaves the room.....
Humor me...
Humor you? Why? You are humorous enough.
It was a pleasure posting on this site...great blog site. The tide of truth has begun and I'm gone to work out in the field and organize many groups within the Los Angeles and Valley for the recall and public awareness of the real Villaraigosa, not the fantasy marketing spinster poster boy that Ace and Parke have packaged for you. Their lies, lies, and more lies. We will expose his entire history, not just the spinsters PR work.
Villaraigosa has been exposed and the tide of truth cannot be prevented from further exposure.
I will never vote for the socialist Villaraigosa and the people will become aware of the true flag he stands for--it is not the red, white, and blue...
By the way, before I say Adios, Goodbye...Villaraigosa staff, are you having an East L.A. March, Walk? Don't worry I will see you in the office soon and join you in that walk to expose Mr. "socialist propaganda" and his staff.
We are a diverse group that do not wish to see the racist Villaraigosa spread his socialistic propaganda to the constituents. Si Se Puede...Para afuera con el comunismo! Venimos a California para properar, no para estarnos atras! Para afuera con el mentiroso Villaraigosa! Tengo derechos, y voto por el mejor candidato, no por el color! No tienes vergue...
Listen all you schmucks. Quit the crap and let's get down to the real nitty gritty. Hahn hasn't done shit for the City of Los Angeles, except let his stupid staff run his ass and then when something goes wrong cry about it.
Whil Villar is not my first choice or best choice for that matter he is a change. He build coalitions in Sacrameto....with Hertzberg and can do it here as well.
So, if you want to change our City..we MUST let our elected officials know and know hard and loudly.
Lets get of our butts... lets be proactive until we h ar differently and letst See what hapepns.
Chief Parker why didn't you post the LAT article about Jewish leaders apology? You are lying through your teeth Parker. You haven't found nearly that many. If MEAT is afraid for the safety like he says of these people just list the DATE when the neighborhood watches started and the Senior Lead Officer who attends. That way everybody is safe and it will be the truth. We are organizing a meeting about this very subject in CD14 to expose Antonio's LIE.
The debate will be Hahn on his crime record and bringing in Bratton. Hahn should also slam Antonio for supporting gangs. ADV will say Hahn hasn't hired more officers. DO YOUR HOMEWORK IDIOT. Hahn in his 2003-2004 budget had money for an additional 320 officers but those losers on city council voted it down. So blame them.
ACLU's chapter opposed Hahn's effort to win approval for a gang injunction against Blythe Street in Panorama City. Villaraigosa was president of the chapter's board. Now Villaraigosa says he favors gang injunctions. FLIP FLOP just like Kerry
Renata is a first class person. She is one of the best deputy mayors Hahn has and one of the few that knows what she is doing.
The trouble is he has loaded her with so much work from those who have left and not been replaced, that she barely has time to breathe.
Renata may have blown it on this one, after all, don't all public employees get ten or more chances, unlike the private sector. But you know who else blew it? Jimmy Blackman, Tony's right hand man. Not only has he made a farce out of a previously effective council office, Jimmy was driving the car when he and Tony pulled up to Vignali's shop on Figueroa. MEAT previously stated that it was Mike Hernandez. Well you're right MEAT, Hernandez did take his car to Vignali also, and the LAPD was tailing him at the time. But Tony also took his car there, I can't believe Parke or Tony have you this much in the dark. Tony and Mike have very distinctive voices on tape. There is no mistaking it plus there is video to back up the sound recordings. But even you, MEAT, must have known that Hahn has an "ace" up his sleeve. Tony has too much of a shaky past and too much of a big mouth - ever wonder why he's always getting busted with other women? Parke knows this about Tony, that's why he can't sleep at night.
TRANSIT NERD:
Haven't you heard, Art Snyder is on Tony's team. They have a lot in common. Establishing their positions in accordance with campaign contributions; ignoring their constituents then placating them around election time; running around every bar in town - or party house as in Tony's case; and they both have a rap sheet for child abuse. Although Art was accused of sexual abuse, Tony was only accused of physical abuse on his daughter, Priscilla - there's a record on file.
Art Snyder runs with the same crowd as Ricahrd Alatorre, Mike Hernandez, Richard Polanco, Ron Martinez, and, of course, Horatio Vignali, guess who supplied those party houses?
So, what is the most important?
A Mayor who costs the City huge amounts of money and allows his Commissioners to loot the City at every turn, or, a Mayor who likes to party and have a few drinks and a kiss once in a while?
Me, I'll take the womanizer party guy, who can make the economic engine hum over the pious, quiet nice guy, who lets his Commissioners and contributors walk away with the City Treasury and approve deals for the City that costs hundreds of millions, or billions of dollars?
What does anyone think causes higher taxes? We have $500 million more than four years ago, and we have the same amount of employees. But, they are making a whole lot more money, each of them. Just ask Julie Butcher, Miguel Contreras and Maria Elena Durazo. They LOVE Jimmy!
Sure Renata is too busy because others have left(great excuse to blow three billion of income to LA); only the smart ones like Matt Middlebrook left voluntarily, the others had to be fired and they couldn't get anyone else that was even semi-competent to take these jobs that lead straight to the jails at either Bauchet Street or Terminal Island.
The resumes are flying out of Room 300 at warp speed now. Even those young dopes can read polls. The only ones who can't are the CD 14ers who are sure that Antonio is going down because everyone they talk to is voting against him.
It is time to start a countdown:
Thirty (30) days to Judgment Day...
Anybody have the actual votes?
I'd like to know the six and the five, although I can guess most of them...
Hey, Renata can get a job in the public or private sector any time she wants. Rumor has it Genesis LA would welcome her back......and she never missed a beat there !!!
So Renata............time to bail, with all of the support your NOT getting now from the Mayor's office, as they scramble to save themselves?
Gosh, who would that leave, Deputy Mayor Doane, who reports have it is waiting for the Mayor's reelection and has been promised the GM position at the PORT. Cannot think of a quicker way to sink the ships that feed our economy. What's up with that?
Pay to play?
More pay-to-play.
I guess the companies at LAX wanted to get their a fair return on their bribes, er, donations to Hahn, so they had to have the airport commish extend the contracts.
Nice! At least Hahn is an honest crook.
VILLARAIGOSA DEFEATED ON LA FIRMS.
What an idiot! He can't even get a motion passed in city council. The LA Weekly stated it correctly. 'YOUR CITY COUNCIL NOT WORKING FOR YOU. This lame ass has been there 2 yrs and is yet to get anything decent passed in council. This should tell the voters he's not a leader, has no vision, and is the biggest abuser of special event waivers in the city. Get rid of him.
"He can't even get a motion passed in city council."
As always, you Hahn types miss the point. (Could be why you are 32 points behind right now)
It wasn't about the motion, it was about the stories in the papers making it look like more pay-to-play.
Hahn is an idiot.
Chief Parker there is no way in hell you found 84 neighborhood watches. If the majority of people are telling you they don't exist then you should listen. If you're making up that number then you're just as corrupt and sleazy as Antonio who has been lying about them from day one. List the Senior Lead Officers because many of us know them well, and the date they were created. Then we will believe you. We know you take your direction from Parke and Ace. Make sure you know the difference between neighborhood councils and neighborhood watches. There are 85 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS CITYWIDE NOT WATCHES.
YOU LIE, YOU LIE, YOU LIE
PARKER
YOU ARE A SCUM-SUCKING TONY SHILL, AND WOULDN'T KNOW THE TRUTH IF IT HIT YOU.
NAME THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES, OR SHUT-UP
PLACE THEM - OR SHUT UP.
IDENTIFY THE OFFICERS THAN FOUND THEM FOR YOU OR SHUT UP
Can't keep your stories straight Parker? It's hard when it's all lies.
A couple days ago you said you'd found 40-50 watches using local papers. Someone called your bluff, looked through ALL the latest local papers and found TWO (yes, 2) both old, established neighborhood watches.
They said, Call the SLOs, they will tell you how many there are.
SO, NOW you change your story and say you HAVE contacted the LAPD, anonymously (convenient to cover a lie), and have TWICE as many.
84 WATCHES in a district with LESS THAN 20 DISTINCT neighbrohoods?
HOW DO YOU SLEEP at night? (OH, that's right ADV supporters take drugs so they CAN sleep).
BUT, you must have been up all night calling the LAPD 85 times asking for neighborhood watches in 85 locations.
(No wonder there are no cops on the street they're all answeing fake questions from fake bloggers about fake neighborhood watches.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA how long it would take to get that much information from the LAPD with fake phone calls?
Do you know they spend most of their time answering REAL questions and responding to REAL crimes.
I just e-mailed my SLO... he said NO ONE has called Hollenbeck asking about neighborhood watches in more than a week, and it would show on the daily activity sheet for the people taking calls!
AND - You won't NAME a single one...
You won't list a location?
You won't come anywhere near the truth.
LIES, TONY V. and his spporters are ALL LIES.
Who cares about the NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES?
Yeah, spend all your time on Neighborhood Watches in CD-14.
Maybe you can make it an issue during the special election when AV is mayor.
Clue in will you, we don't give a Rats @ss about it.
All we care about is getting Hahn out of office.
Lot's of editing happening at the Antonio villaraigosa BLOG (http://www.antonio2005.com/blog/index.php?p=82#comments).
Most of the posts have been deleted. CONTROL. COMMUNIST CONTROL. Villaraigosa staff does not blog surfers to know the truth, so the CENSOR, EDIT, OR DELETE-take your pick, to the posts.
Is this how you EDITED Villaraigosa for the Mayoral run?
Villaraigosa staff, I am closer to you than you think, I am one of you, and I am exposing you. Stop lying to the people. The hardworking people that do care about the city. They deserve better.
Chill, buddy, everyone on the blog knows it's a joke.
Parker never dropped a dime on this -- he's just trying to rag out the ADV-haters who made him look stupid earlier this week.
Every other ADV-lover on the list gave up WEEKS ago trying to prove he tells the truth, even MEAT.
They've just gone back to bashing Hahn (easier than proving something good and honest about Truthless, Toothless Tony).
Yeah, right, it's not that the ADV-lovers don't CARE about the 80- invisible watches, thye just know they can't prove it.
The lie served it's purpose, the gullible simps in other districts heard it and said, OH GOOD, he did do something in Two years (never once stopping to consider, it CAN"t be done).
The lie, like all Tony's lies, served it's purpose. It swaying a few thousand of the more simple-minded, less involved voters in the city, The one's leaning his way anyway, because he's so "pretty."
They just needed a nail, avan a fake on, to hang the hats off their empty heads on.
Villaraigosa, is this you posting the following, or is it Ace, Parke, or Blackman?
"Who cares about the NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES?
Yeah, spend all your time on Neighborhood Watches in CD-14.
Maybe you can make it an issue during the special election when AV is mayor.
Clue in will you, we don't give a Rats @ss about it.
All we care about is getting Hahn out of office."
Go ahead, keep taking advantage of the people, they will wake up to your game. By the way, make sure you write your list of confessions for the DNC in Los Angeles, CA this month. Are you ready to tell all your democratic buddies, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, It's just that I thought I could get the Latino vote, you know, I am a Latino, so I thought the "all people" would buy that. I am sorry for my background, I am sorry I was keeping secrets, I am sorry for lying, cheating, physical abuse, and all that stuff that got out, I had it under control, just that my staff made a quick stop to FIDEL's house, you know my friends."
Never seen so much traffic on the ADV blog though. Even right before the primary, they were lucky to have 3-4 people post a day.
There's blood in the water, though, and they recognize the smell (it's Tony's), because his claims of accomplishments are starting to unravel, and his pat speeches are growing stale, and their substance never WAS there.
Their friends and neighbors are starting to come to them and say, I keep hearing these things about ADV, that I didn't hear last time (I'm new in town, or just got old enough to vote, or didn't bother last)..
Is it try that he... (yes)
Did he really just (yes)
And these stories about the good work in CD14 (Yes, all lies).
SO, WHAT GOOD HAS he done the city?
And there's NO truthful answer that anyone has proof for...
Neighborhood watches have to remain secret, so ADV's staff can't reveal them? And you people ragged on Hahn for not flashing HIS schedule around. What a crock of BS.
So who are we to believe, Chief Parker -- ADV's staff saying the watches are "SECRET" and are concerned for safety.
OR, YOU for saying all you had to do is place a bogus call to LAPD and they spilled ALL the secrets to you on the phone. PLEAZZZZZE
Why, any GANGBANGER can just call LAPD and ask about the watches in their area, then drive by and SHOOT THEM ALL DEAD during a meeting.
SO much for ADV's staff keeping it secret.
ANd it's ALL Parker' fault, he gave the gangsters the way to GET the information.
I suspect there will be a HUGE increase in dead neighborhood watch captains now, because of PARKERS PROGRAM of outing their secret locations.
Bang, bang, bang. There go three more dead watches!!! Killed by Parker's stupidity. HA!
Chief Parker, there's a message for you.
Lil' Fang from the Crazy Ass Mexicans gang wants you to e-mail him with the number he can call and pretend to be a new resident and find out where the neighorhood watches are in their turf.
lilfang@crazyassmexs.ela
Cuz they're planning on escalating their "profitable" ventures and you just gave them a good idea how to stop the local citizenry from ratting them out to the cops.
THANKS!
(They won't tell anybody it was your idea, their killers and rapists and thieves, but they would never rat you out).
I'll rat you out, Chief, but you really don't have any options now -- you gotta give the gangbangers the lists now that you (and YOU alone) have been able to identify the watches in CD14 (the previoulsy invisible ones -- never printed in newspapers, not listed on local lisserves, not posted on community bulletin boards).
Dang, attendance at their meetings must SUCK!
(But PLEASE don't tell the people on the blog where you and you alone found them, you super-sleuth, because they might really they're ALL FAKE and vote AGAINST Tony).
That would be FAR worse than helping gangsters.
Right ADV-lovers?
Pump Tony at ALL costs, (ignore the crime and destruction he can't and won't fix!)
Parker keeps putting the info out there (someone PLEASE e-mail me and help me sort them out). Because it all`lies, and he needs help coming up with SOMETHING to cover his tracks for lies about neighborhood watches.
It's Okay, Parker, most bloggers don't know who you REALLY are. It's not like you can be held accountable for your lies.
ANy more than you can PROVE theyre not lies.
MEXICAN STANDOFF (so to speak).
Busy afternoon, police scanner calls show five more drivebys in El Sereno. Seems someone's taking out neighborhood watches one-by-one (although theyhave to guess where to shoot,`because they;re INVISZBLE)>
We can make it even EASIER, Parker.
Just give some RAW numbers.. . how many neighborhood watches in each community in CD 14.
Here's a partial list:
Boyle Heights
El Sereno
Highland Park (Northern one-third)
Eagle Rock
Mt. Wash.
Monterey Hills/Hermon
That covers about 85-90 percent of the district.
How many watches have you found in each (careful because not ALL of either Hollenbeck or NE division is in CD14).
Then we can each check with our OWN SLO and see if there really are 5, 6, 12, 20 in our own community. We'll save you some more phone calls. I know for a fact, my SLO only meets with 2 (old existing watches, in his basic car area). But if you'll post the numbers, I'll make a fool of myself and ask him if there are possibly THAT many more, he just doesn't KNOW about).
There are probably bloggers from most of these areas popping in here, and if not, we can get them the nessage -- and they'll be glad to FACT CHECK your work. (Since you're not even in the area, you wouldn't expect us to take your anonymous "facts" at (two) face value, right?
(Funny, how almost ALL the CD-14 bloggers here are so-called ADV-haters?) I guess you gotta really get to KNOW ADV.
Maybe because of lies just like this, by people who DON'T live here, and think it's funny to try and cover Tony's lying mouth tracks with more lies.
Is that FUNNY to you, Parker, you get a kick out of kicking community activists who have been lied to nonstop for two years in the teeth some more, just to back up your hero's lies and ONLY (fake) accomplishments?
Scum!
The big difference between Hahn and Antonio is very simple. Hahn has an accomplished record, public safety, after school programs, gang reduction program in Antonio's district, traffic control, bringing back community policing, bringing back Senior Leads, stopping LAPD from leaving thanks to getting rid of Parks.
Antonio on the other hand has to go back to his days as assembly speaker. What an idiot! If he had anything to speak of since he's been in council 2 yrs he would put them on those stupid commericals. He has ZERO. Oh but things have now been added. He opposes gang injunctions, reporters are going after the story if he called the state prosecutor to get that drug dealer off who would STILL be doing time for being caught wth 800 lbs. of cocaine. Parker if its taken you this long and you still don't know if those 80 neighborhood watches exist then givc up. THEY DON'T. You're making an ass out of yourself. CD14 is pissed at Antonio for lying and using them. They are organizing to get this big lie out.
Community Activists are one of the best intentioned human beings. It is a plus when you have a neighborhood with individuals that care about what happens in the community.
It is a shame that Villaraigosa has deceived them.
It is a shame that Villaraigosa has lied to them.
I will not bash the neighborhood activists, they are the ones that deserve the proper leadership and they are the ones that care what happens to you.
Villaraigosa stop using these people!
Yes, I am a CD 14 constituent. Like it or not, I live here, and I will work very hard to get Villaraigosa recalled. We need people in office that want to be there, that want to work with neighborhood watches, that care, not a liar that is MIA.
At the Bloggin.LA (http://blogging.la/) scroll down to find the story, but here's a piece of it.
Title:"Strange Bedfellows, Again"
"I'd love to have been a fly on the wall of the Hertzberg-Villaraigosa endorsement negotiations"
It has a link to the "Campaign scene: 2 Hours in the Valley"
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/003369.html
And here I thought F-H was already IN the energy business (e.g. DWP), but apparently they didn't get "enough" of a taste. . . (maybe they've found richer cities to "work" for)
St. Louis-based Fleishman-Hillard Inc. recently announced plans to launch four new practice groups to expand to the energy, innovation, transportation and travel and tourism industries. The innovation team will focus on creative brainstorming with clients and applying these ideas into action. The announcement follows the company's November 2004 launch of FH Out Front, a practice group designed to reach the gay and lesbian community.
I have seen that many of the Antonio haters in here have pointed to the "Homicide in Hollenbeck" CNN special as an example of how Antonio is a bad councilman. But as I watch this, and as some "evil, liberal, white westsider" get upset about the horrible conditions that people in East LA are living under, it doesn't change my mind. In fact, I'm still voting for Antonio and watching this, I am more convinced of what a success story he is. And I look at Hahn as a complete failure. Gang injunctions are not a long term solution to eradicating gang violence. He's the damn mayor, he should be responsible for doing something. Not every tragedy in life is Antonio's fault. And I hope that when Antonio becomes mayor, he can use his powers to help clean this mess up.
There are many people in our city with success stories. Antonio is not the absolute, but what is absolute is that Antonio is corrupt, lied, and is your typical con man. There are many, many more success stories in our communities, people who really want to serve and make this city better, but Villaraigosa is a prepackaged PR job, and his success in getting criminals of the hook, cheating, lying, stagnant community he so call serves, plus many more...should be told. Para afuera con Villaraigosa, the socialist propaganda and $$$$$$ boy for the Democratic Party. Democratic Party has their Ethnic boy.
Republican for Hahn,
Who is supposed to take control of his district for the past two years? Antonio, but he never did and was never there...always Mr. $$$$ boy for the DNC.
Who sympathizes with the criminals?
Antonio.
Who is a socialist?
Antonio
I can go on...but I don't want to take up blog space for things we already know about this crook.
I would hate to see Villaraigosa in charge of the Police Dept., Commissioners, and Budget. Vigilante days are foreseen.
Hey Ace, Parke, Meat, Carreon, Blackman...
Hey buddy, is that you again faking to be the Republican for AV...I was there the last time you guys were thinking of it. Remember, I am one of you. I am closer to your circle of trust than you think.
Don't worry too much...I am just saving the best for last....EXPOSURE!
Why do you guys keep calling Tony a socialist? Do you guys actually think he ever picked up a book by Marx, or Rouseau, Kant, Smith or Engels for that matter. The guy is a puppet. He went with the socialist/white liberal/ patronizing movement because that is where the easy girls where. The girls in East L.A. had started to take hime to court. And these radical dudes were so hard up for the great brown hope that anyone would have fit the bill.
A philosopher Tony should have studied is Nietzche because the only theory Tony aspires to is nihilism. Everywhere Tony has gone he's left a path of destruction (California going bankrupt after his tenure as Speaker; UTLA possibly the most member hated union in the county, at least until there last elections; MTA with still no subway in East L.A., but plenty of insider contracts; Martha Reyna's and Richard's family destroyed, you know, your past best friends; that girl from Sacred Heart and from the Capitol garage; Boyle Heights awash in blood, the CNN story doesn't tell the half of it - gang bangers collecting protection money from street vendors, gang bangers forcing girls into prostitution, gang bangers taking over public parks;) Ever wonder why the activists in his own district keep away. They're just honoring Tony's 2001 mantra, "Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are." I guess the movement in the Eastside doesn't want to be Tony.
the only thing that has been exposed on this site is what a bunch of idiots the antonio haters are.
Previous ANon who said this:
"And I hope that when Antonio becomes mayor, he can use his powers to help clean this mess up."
Why did your daddy Antonio promise to clean this "mess" up ONCE he became a councilmember, then?
Why did he blame the LAST councilmember for the mess?
Why have none of the ADV-lovers addressed THIS broken promise and the lie two years ago.
You cannot walk on both sides of this fence. Two years ago (when "Homicide in Hollenbeck") wasn't bad enough to rate a CNN special, ADV claimed the "mess" was because CD14 HAD a bad councilmember.
NOW, becuase he HAS that job, suddenly it "NOT MY FAULT."
How can anyone rationale condone that kind of evil conniving abuse of people's hopes. You spit on the graves of the dead family members of CD14 peoplewhen you try to claim this.
Someone posted this:
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
Are we talking about ADV's convictions, (or just the one's he's had the records of hidden? It is the sick blinded "convictions" of the ADV-lovers that keep you for seeing the truth. A lousy, do-nothing councilmember WILL make a far worse mayor. Failures at smaller tasks do not deserve to be promoted, and only passionate, lovesick supporters would have the "conviction" to think otherwise.
Wasn't that the philosopher that said "God is Dead"
Funny guy to be quoting when you're following a "reformed catholic" around like little puppy lapdogs in heat!
I'm note sure the DNC is going to be Tony's best friend, anymore. Why else would they have put his so high up last year, as only a lowly councilmember from L.A. -- to deliver Latino votes -- but Latino's voted for the mangled Spanish-speaking Texas cowboy and the Republican ticket in record percentages.
Another botched ADV project. Bad show, old Tony. Maybe they should have located a 21st century pol, instead of some dinosaur leftover.
Picking him would be like running Tom Hayden up to the top -- same era of washed out, washed up ideologies.
Some give Tony a calendar -- that says 2005 -- not 1995, Tony Rex.
For the FAKE Republican for ADV.
"Who controls the Police Department, appoints all fivc Police Commissioners and creates the budget?
Answer: THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES.
I rest my case."
Wuld have been nice if you, or someone else this "wise" would have let ADV know this two years ago, because he was REALLY stupid back them when he promised to do something about this (same time he promised not to run for mayor). When he said having 8-10 homicides in early 2003 was because Pacheco "just didn't care, wasn't doing enough about them."
So now there are 15 in the same time frame. Now you want use to believe it's NOT because Villaraigosa "just doesn't care, isn't doing enough about them."
I wish I was as SMART as the fake Republican who can make that difference between Tony's lies two years ago and Tony's lies this year (which are identical).
PLEASE, also, name me ONE thing ADV stands for that is even remotely like ANYTHING real Repiublicans believe.
One thing, ANYTHING?
I rest MY case.
For the FAKE Republican for ADV.
"Who controls the Police Department, appoints all fivc Police Commissioners and creates the budget?
Answer: THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES.
I rest my case."
Wuld have been nice if you, or someone else this "wise" would have let ADV know this two years ago, because he was REALLY stupid back them when he promised to do something about this (same time he promised not to run for mayor). When he said having 8-10 homicides in early 2003 was because Pacheco "just didn't care, wasn't doing enough about them."
So now there are 15 in the same time frame. Now you want use to believe it's NOT because Villaraigosa "just doesn't care, isn't doing enough about them."
I wish I was as SMART as the fake Republican who can make that difference between Tony's lies two years ago and Tony's lies this year (which are identical).
PLEASE, also, name me ONE thing ADV stands for that is even remotely like ANYTHING real Repiublicans believe.
One thing, ANYTHING?
I rest MY case.
For the FAKE Republican for ADV.
"Who controls the Police Department, appoints all fivc Police Commissioners and creates the budget?
Answer: THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES.
I rest my case."
Wuld have been nice if you, or someone else this "wise" would have let ADV know this two years ago, because he was REALLY stupid back them when he promised to do something about this (same time he promised not to run for mayor). When he said having 8-10 homicides in early 2003 was because Pacheco "just didn't care, wasn't doing enough about them."
So now there are 15 in the same time frame. Now you want use to believe it's NOT because Villaraigosa "just doesn't care, isn't doing enough about them."
I wish I was as SMART as the fake Republican who can make that difference between Tony's lies two years ago and Tony's lies this year (which are identical).
PLEASE, also, name me ONE thing ADV stands for that is even remotely like ANYTHING real Repiublicans believe.
One thing, ANYTHING?
I rest MY case.
Yeah, there's a debate on the weekend. You ever notice ADV's site doesn't list the debates?
Wonder why? Easy, he comes across really stupid and vague on anything but his pat planned answers to softballe questions.
He's doesn't have the candlepower to state his own positions, let alone dispute others.
What a total waste it would be to have propped up figurehead ADV trying to represent L.A.
By the defiition of what "sour grapes" means, it's the ADV-lovers.
He can't complete "stupid little" projects like dog parkes and saving museums and private high schools (and skate parks and citywide policy measures and just about everything else the people have asked for in two years), WELL,that's because they're NOT important anyway.
He can't get the endorsement of most of the city council and community activitists he's working with the past two years (the people who know him best), WELL, that's just because THEY are not important.
He can't get the backing of (and ignores) his own neighborhood council leaders in the district -- WELL, that's because THEY are not important either, just pissy little wannabes (that's how you described them, right MEAT),
If Tony CAN'T get it done (everything, basicallY), then it's JUST not important. THAT's the definition of sour grapes, and the ADV-lovers are the definition of the bitter losers, NOT the unhappy constituents of CD14, many or which trusted him and voted for him two years ago. THEY are the idealist ones, believeing in ideals like honesty, integrity and sticking with the task until it's done -- all FOREIGN concepts to ADV and his groupies.
All that's important to them is "dump Hahn," by any means, even lies and slime, so they can ALL enjoy their momentary Villa-orgasm together.
Every other fact of ADV's imcompetence posted here repeatedly (and never disproven) is just "hate" - "pettiness" and not important.
IF you win, you will find out VERY quickly how important it would have been to TEACH Tony V. those "foreign" phrases, just once before he moved up the ladder...
"honesty, integrity and sticking with the task until it's done."
Not even a clue, huh ADV.
That MY hate speech. I HATE arrogant conmen and the people who co-enable them to dash people's dreams ALL over again.
In LATIMES.COM:
The councilman said he would not allow results of a recent Times poll, which showed him 18 points ahead of Hahn, to make him complacent.
"I'm one of those people who believes that the only poll that matters is the one on election day. So I'm going to run like I'm 20 or 30 points down," he said.
AV REPUBLICAN:
Boy have you got your wires crossed. Of course if it is Parke that is posting at 4:30 in the morning, your post is understandable, I told you Parke couldn't get any sleep, not with a loose cannon like Tony rolling around the deck.
First off, Pacheco was much more pro-business than Tony - check the contribution lists for 2003 and find out how many downtown businesses contributed to Pacheco's campaign. In fact, that was Tony's line all along that Nick was too conservative, and that was the message he took the the liberal westside to raise his money.
As for the pettiness of the 14th District, yeah, you and any other white boy from the valley - inlcuding those running Tony's campaign - would consider 15 homicides as petty, after all , they're just mexicans, right? You would consider failure after failure - dog park, southwest museum, homeboy industries graffitti removal, transportation committee screw-ups, the list goes on and on - as being petty because it's only the mexican eastside that is being affected.
Regarding his personal life, you are so mesmerized by Tony's appeal - like a little school girl at a high school dance, that you are willig to excuse his personal flaws and brand them as petty.
Is drug dealing petty?
Is attempted rape petty?
Is assualt with a deadly weapon petty?
Is breaking up your best friends family petty?
Is physically abusing your daughter petty?
Is having four women bear your children petty?
Is having whore parties at Hertzberg's apartment in Sacto petty?
The list goes on and on. You can excuse youthful indiscretions, but not when you're 50 years old. All this must be petty to you, but it shouldn't be petty for the mayor of Los Angeles
I still can't believe there are real Republicans up reading web logs at 4 AM??
And speaking of Republicans, why would anyone want him to endorse them? Riordan doesn't even like dirty little school girls. Has everybody forgotten that incredibly insane story? So crazy that I hear Arnold is trying to back away from him... He's poison.
Question to ADV lovers? Why hasn't ADV done anything about the homicides in his district? If you can tell us maybe we could understand you're irrational thinking. Pacheco organized a peace march, met with LAPD several times, met with commuity leaders and gang prevention and intervention people. He at least did something proactive. Most of the ADV lovers are blind. I met an ADV lover at a hugh meeting and he said the only reason he was supporting ADV was because he worked w/him on the Kerry campaign. These are the type of idiots he has. BTW republican you can count all the people that supported Hertzberg and Alarcon helping to push for Hahn. They are ashamed that their candidates would be so hypocritical. White voters are stating that they are now wondering if ADV would give additional rights to illegal immigrants. You better your ass he will.
I agree with you Anon 7:39 AM, well said...
It's really simple. Villaraigosa was elected by the people to do a job, and he did not finish it.
Second, some AV supporters who claim that CD 14 posters are just bickering, well, the citizens are just using their right to speak out. Although Villaraigosa loves to suppress this right when it is not to his convenience.
Why would anyone in their sane mind want to elect someone who was elected to do a job by making too many promises and then not delivering one of those promises to it's community.
CD 14 may not be important to you for whatever reason, but what is important for everyone in L.A. & Valley is, do they really want AV in office knowing that he could not complete his previous "little" job. He couldn't even lead CD14 and you want him to be Mayor, that is insane. And this is even before we get into his "imaginary record" and criminal connections...
Republican for AV (ACE SMITH) vote for AV, it's ok, just make sure you change your voter registration card to republican, this way Antonio can hire you for his next election in CUBA.
Did you guys see Tony stumble over the statement, " Peo....ple trrrrrust me." I guess his reformed catholic conscious is finally catching up with him.
And am I missing something? How is Hahn blaming Tony for Parks? I thought he took responsibility for it quite well. Notice Tony's temper when the audience booed him down.
It is not Antonio's job to lead the 14th Council District, it is his job to represent it. It is Jim Hahn's job to lead. He has failed. He has not led. He is a failed leader, he needs to go. You Antonio haters need to stop fretting over petty bullshit.
Antonio can't do anything in the 14th. He's been an absentee councilman and now the whole city knows it. Don't you think certain e-mails stating what he's failed to do have been sent citywide? You bet they have. People are stating they had no idea. They were even sent to the media. I say the next couple of weeks will show Antonio's ZERO record as councilman. No vision, no leadership, o accomplishments. Supports gangs, illegal vendors and people citywide are asking themselves will this guy do more for spanish speaking people then for us. ABSOLUTELY!!!
Hey Anonymous 8:55 PM, April 17, 2005, SAID:
"It is not Antonio's job to lead the 14th Council District, it is his job to represent it."
In an interview by Robert Greene titled, "Los Lobos" Villaraigosa said the following:
"Between doors, Villaraigosa says he has a surprise in store for people who think running for council would seem a comedown for a former Assembly speaker.
"The City Council is where things get done in the community," he says. "And I've shown I know how to get things done. But I don't believe a council member is just a person that ensures that services have been delivered. I think a council member should be a leader as well."
************Get that, he said "I think a council member should be a leader as well." Antonio repeatedly made it his job to say he would be that leader not just represent it! He is such a liar-Villaraigosa LIAR!
"...Villaraigosa rented a home a stone's throw across the freeway to qualify as a district resident..."
Gee, you even had to fake you lived in the area to run for councilman? Disgusting. Maybe that is why your kids go to PRIVATE SCHOOL, this is why you do not care if the rest drop out, who cares your kids are in nice prep. schools. Would you still send your kids for religious reasons, if the school underperformed? I know the answer, but you might start flip flopping this issue too.
Villaraigosa vowed not to run for mayor in 2005.
How much clearer was that statement above, and he couldn't even keep that promise. Just do your job, I smell recall.
For those who are aware. Don't worry about how mnay debates there need to be. Those of us who are technologically savy , know that there are many places to stream the debates. We no longer live in a time where people will miss these debates ; the people will see them and hear them.
What a strategy .
Villaraigosa staff,
Get those dusted signs out immediately, you need grassroots marketing. Your candidate is whimping out in public, he has no substance, nada...
Heck, why don't you give AV the signs and have him put them on lawns, or have him ride the bus as of now.
11:06, that was a $2,000+ per month rental home inches from the South Pasadena city limit -- part of a plan to try and get his kids into SP schools if the district boundaries hadn't been readjusted out of the kindess of "evil" Pacheco's heart and they had to stay there. He later told the community, "I wanted to buy that home and stay in this community, instead of moving back to MW (after the adjustment), but the owner wouldn't sell"
Yet, ANOTHER LIE...
(The "rental" house has since BEEN sold).
Makes you wonder if this guy EVER tells the truth. We're probably going tgo find out somewhere down the line he's actually Greek, or Italian, or a woman, or something.
11:31 -- The debates are constantly being repeated in the stations that originally aired them and on other cable outlets. CSPAN has even run some -- although I don't see them archived there, yet.
I've seen parts of the earlier one-on-one's 3 and 4 times so far.
Pretty ironic, huh, 10:59 p.m., to have ADV say "The City Council is where things get done in the community,"
EVERY community except the ones he represents that is. TWO YEARS as a CM, and not a single significant community improvement project completed, including a dozen or more already in the works when he took office with estimated completion dates of less than a year -- and they're still making excuses, blaming others, blaming people who left office two years ago, blaming other city departments for delays (and THE departments try to be "political" and just grin through the haze, but some are REALLY starting to get pissed, and are letting the constituents know -- "WE are not the problem -- ADV's staff CAN'T even file a work order or request of budget properly so we can take it to council or commissions, etc. to get the go-ahead).
WORST is saying there's no money, when they haven't even yet spent discretionary funds for some categories of expenditures dating BACK to 2003.
(Granted some of these delays ARE Pacheco's fault, but not for the reasons the blame-game field staffers give. If he hadn't lost to this do-nothing, empty suited yutz, ADV, the district could be moving ahead again).
With ADV as mayor, we can look forward to him LEADING us back to the 20th century.
It's perfectly understandable why ADV feels it okay to lie so much -- his groupies are so tweaked in the head, they cover for him, say the lies don't REALLY matter, try to equivocate and compare it with opponents' troubles or misunderstndings, or actually THANK him for the lies -- by trying to move him ahead to a higher position.
Why EVER tell the truth when you have supporters as delusional as all that?
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