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Monday, April 11, 2005

Magic Johnson Endorses Tony Villar

My reporter sources have given me a ring. Yes, there are LA based reporters who know the identity of the Chief.

Magic Johnson has come out for Tony Villar - the press conference has not started yet.

Another cluster bomb right into the heart of South Los Angeles.

More importantly however, it was Magic Johnson's endorsement that helped (latino) City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo become the first Latino to win City-wide office.

In 2001, Magic Johnson was a perfect 100% on all his endorsements.

Word on the street is that Rocky will endorse whoever Magic supports.

Big Monday Momentum.

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105 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is the final nail in the coffin.

April 11, 2005 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MAGIC JOHNSON is the final name in someone's coffin.

AIDS-infected from his own stupid lifestyle choices MAGIC JOHNSON?

FAILED, lampooned and satired talk show host MAGIC JOHNSON is the final nail in someone's political coffin?

Can't complete and intelligible sentence even on cue cards MAGIC JOHNSON?

Spit out that gum before you walk down the street, doing both could be fatal!

April 11, 2005 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHAT, no Hertzberg. The ADV-lovers on the blog had their sources fail on them AGAIN??? (What's that an 81 percent error rate?)

April 11, 2005 11:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WOW!

How are the Hahnisitas goihg to spin this.

This is huge.

April 11, 2005 11:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"We don't know this guy (Tony), he's not one of us!" Magic Johnson, 2001 mayoral campaign event.

April 11, 2005 11:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Little by little, the media is catching on as much by what they DON'T say about Villaraigosa -- media hound that he is. CNN special on Eastside homicides over the weekend, NO ANTONIO. Large piece in the L.A. Times about the Southwest museum situation, NO ANTONIO.

When there's something to blame Hahn for, ADV is in front of the media before the cameras are set up. But when there's something in his own district needs fixing, he's (what?) M-I-A!

April 11, 2005 11:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(Not a Hahn-ista), But I an guarantee, no one needs to "spin" a non-event like a ex-jock with no political stake or savvy endorsing someone for mayor. You don't spin non-news -- you "spike" it (look that up if your under 40.

I'd be surprised if the Times gives this more than a sentence paragraph at the end of some other story about the campaign.

April 11, 2005 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh, I get how they are going to spin it.

East side something or other, no AV.

He fools around.

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

So guys, how is that working for you guys so far?

Hahn is down by 20 points and dropping.

Keep up the good work.

April 11, 2005 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker says:
"In 2001, Magic Johnson was a perfect 100% on all his endorsements."

In 2001 the Lakers won their second of three consecutive championships. Magic could walk on water.

This year, where are the Lakers.
I guess your four years too late Tony, timing, timing, timing.

April 11, 2005 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM (A KINDER GENTLER)MEAT:

MAGIC JOHNSON is a nail in Jim Hahn's coffin.

World champion winner MAGIC JOHNSON.

Gold medal olympic winner MAGIC JOHNSON.

Aids-infected, Aids education outreach man MAGIC JOHNSON.

Successful businessman MAGIC JOHNSON.

And to clear up some items.

Antonio Villaraigosa in about 2 years has accomplished.
Settled the MTA strike,
LARX
New constituent center in El Sereno
Revived the Gold Line
Community Clean-ups
YES 80 NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES
Chair Prop 0

Let's compare apples to apples for a second.

Council President Alex Padilla:

mta strike -no
heath care plans - no
new constituent centers? no, but there is a new library in pacoima and lake view terrace.
transportation - no
Community clean-ups - yes
New Neighborhood watches - 12-16
Prop 0 -yes

Maybe we should compare Antonio to Ed Reyes.

MTA strike - no role
health-care proposal - no plans
new constituent centers - unknown
Gold Line - no role
Clean-ups - yes
New neighborhood watches - unknown
Prop 0 - yes

Let's now compare Apples to Oranges.

Mayor James Hahn
MTA strike - paralyzed
healthcare proposals- NONE
New constituent centers - valley city hall - not completed
gold line - no role
clean-ups - yes, but only invited to others, never has organized one himself
Neighborhood watches - unknown, but fell short of his promise for 1,000 new police.
Prop 0 - yes

All of this and i didn't even go into Antonio's assembly record, but that hasn't stopped the mayor from bringing it up. If he continues to bring it up, then so will I.

blog away

April 11, 2005 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Transcripts are in:

Hi, I'm Jagic Mohnson, I like to enforce Amfonio Vimnddiowjecocsa for mayor of something, Oh Los Angeles. He would be doing a good job.

April 11, 2005 11:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Ex-jock with no political stake or savvy" Man, is there something else you don’t know anything about that you are posting about?

Didn't you see the story in the business part of the L.A. Times a couple of weeks ago on Magic?

Magic is one of the most astute real estate guys in L.A. and he is credited with helping Delgadillo get elected 4 years ago.

Magic has a lot of pull in L.A. Don’t kid yourself because he is an “Ex-Jock”

April 11, 2005 11:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You SOLD me, meat, I won't vote for EITHER Villaraigosa, OR Ed Reyes, OR Alex Padilla for mayor --- NO do-nothing councilmembers should run for mayor -- let them finish their terms (OH, but Reyes and Padilla did, without even PROMISING to... what menches!)

Trivia question... which one of the ADV council term accomplishment lies listed above HASN'T already been debunked multiple times here?

Take your time, it's a tough question...

April 11, 2005 11:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What part of "astute real estate guy" debunks "no political savvy."

Isn't Delgadillo the guy you ADV groupies keep saying ISN'T responsible for things like shutting down a crack house or two on the Eastside -- that it was ALL ADV's doing? Before he's a tag-along, NOW he justifies Magic being politically savvy?

MAN, you really do want it both ways.

April 11, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How about them oranges, MEAT -- none of them INVISIBLE like the 78 (remaining) neighborhood watch shut-ins:

Mayor Hahn’s efforts to put more police on our streets, restore Los Angeles’ community policing program, and bring new leadership to the Los Angeles Police Department have gotten significant results. Compared with just two years ago, violent crime is down in every LAPD area, including the Hollenbeck and Northeast areas, which serve East Los Angeles neighborhoods. Citywide, crime is down 18 percent compared with two years ago.
Expanded the city’s nationally-recognized LA’s BEST after school program to serve over 5,500 additional students at over 45 additional schools. The program now provides free of charge a safe, educational, and fun place for more than 3,900 students at 29 elementary schools in East Los Angeles. Citywide, it serves over 20,000 students at over 125 schools.
Successfully advocated to bring the Gang Reduction Program to East Los Angeles to provide millions in grant funds to after school, college preparation and other programs that give young people positive alternatives to gangs.
Worked with LAPD to enhanced efforts to reduce gang-related crime in East Los Angeles, including provision of additional resources to areas with high gang-related crime through the LAPD’s Community Safety Operations Task Force.
Led the effort to reinstate the Senior Lead Officer (SLO) Program, LAPD’s community policing program, to provide a direct link between Los Angeles communities and the police department.
Created a Joint Park Safety Task Force and directed the LAPD to deploy specialized resources to neighborhood parks that most need additional security. The task force created stop-in centers at over 60 city parks to enhance police presence, including more than a dozen parks in East Los Angeles.
Worked with LAPD to ensure the department tracks and monitors pedestrian and traffic stops to help the department identify potential problems with racial profiling. Mayor Hahn included requiring this data collection as part of the consent decree he negotiated when he was City Attorney.
Removed more than four million square feet of graffiti from over 86,000 locations in East Los Angeles.
Launched a program to increase arrests of those who illegally dispose of items such as couches, televisions, mattresses, or other hazardous waste on city streets or alleys. Since the beginning of the Hahn Administration, more than 46,000 tons of illegally dumped items have been removed from East Los Angeles neighborhoods.
Supports more than 80 neighborhood councils across the city, including those that represent East Los Angeles neighborhoods. Mayor Hahn provided up to $50,000 for each neighborhood council to use for operating expenses and neighborhood projects of their choice.
Worked with the Los Angeles Public Library to open or renovate branch libraries in East Los Angeles, including the Arroyo Seco, Cypress Park, Edendale, and El Sereno branch libraries.
Provided over $1 million to East Los Angeles communities through the Neighborhood Block Grant (NBG) program, which is helping to make streetscape and housing improvements in Lincoln Heights and El Sereno.
Advocated for and closely monitored the East Central Interceptor Sewer (ECIS) project to ensure that it was completed on-time and on-budget. The project, which rehabilitated the city’s sewer system in East, Central, and South Los Angeles neighborhoods, increased the system’s capacity and will greatly reduce the number of sewage spills. Prior to the construction of ECIS, heavy rains would cause sewage to flow into the streets and there were some instances where children were walking through raw sewage to get to school. ECIS was the largest public works project in the city’s history.
Worked with the Department of Recreation and Parks to rehabilitate or open a dozen park facilities in East Los Angeles neighborhoods, including new skate parks in Hollenbeck, El Sereno, and Lincoln Park, the new Dodger Dream Fields at Bishop Canyon and the Montecito Heights Recreation Center, and the new Audubon Center at Debs Park, which is the second urban nature center in the country.
Working to develop a park at Taylor Yard in Northeast Los Angeles. A partnership with the State of California, this park will include soccer and baseball fields, nature trails, picnic areas, and habitat restoration.
Negotiated an agreement with the Los Angeles Unified School District to allow greater community use of school facilities and expand recreation and open space for Los Angeles families.
Lobbied successfully to secure federal funding for the 6-mile Eastside Light Rail project to extend the Metro Gold Line into East Los Angeles.
Created the Street Smart program, which targets for traffic-reducing improvements 35 of Los Angeles’ busiest streets and when completed will save Los Angeles drivers an estimated 15 million hours per year. Streets that will be improved in East Los Angeles neighborhoods through this program include Colorado Boulevard, Valley Boulevard, San Fernando Road, and Mission Road.
Created the Traffic Safety and Congestion Relief Plan, which identifies and makes improvements to 25 of Los Angeles’ worst intersections every year. These improvements make the intersections safer and help reduce traffic congestion for over 1 million drivers every day.
Worked with the city’s Community Development Department program to hire hundreds of qualified young people in Boyle Heights through the Youth Opportunity Movement, which provides education, job training and employment services.
Provided funding that is helping to bring over 600 new housing units to East Los Angeles through the $100 million Housing Trust Fund. Under his leadership, Los Angeles went from having one of the worst records on housing to becoming home to the nation’s largest local housing trust fund. In the last three years, Los Angeles has doubled the pace of housing development.
Expanded the adaptive reuse ordinance, which is helping to adapt vacant buildings into thousands of quality housing units. Over 1,000 adaptive reuse units are in various stages in East Los Angeles.
Worked with local labor organizations to help Homeboy Industries graffiti clean-up team members find jobs with the Painters and Ironworkers.

April 11, 2005 11:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huggy? The only smart one out there. He knows that his reputation will never be the same if he endorses, HE and his wife know more political dirt on Antonio than most. With no endorement he keeps his following for what ever is his next move. Mayor in four if he is smart and stays neutral.
Otherwise he will be seen as the other wimps, he is the only left out there with political respect from the cityat large.

Who checks with Magic Johnson when they vote. Maybe sexual advise, but voting, nowhay, what soes he know about the neighborhood problems.

April 11, 2005 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And THAT's just the Eastside... don't MAKE me post Hahn's accomplishments for EVERY other past of the city.

(Apples with oranges, HA. ADV's fake list is "road apples" compared to what any REAL public servant could get done in two years).

April 11, 2005 11:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hertzberg will endorse Antonio. Expect it before the end of the week. Hahn, or the people around him, have completely screwed up this race. What a future? Let's hope Antonio is true to form and goes off to run for Governor.

April 11, 2005 12:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When I read this on Mayor Sam I called a Magic Johnson top employee and advised of his record supporting gang members while in assembly. THEY HAD NO CLUE. Like I said there is going to be a little surprise for Antonio real soon and FINALLY THE MEDIA WILL PICK IT UP. It won't be coming from Hahn either so MEAT get off your high horse. We all know those 80 neighborhood watches don't exist. Hey, Chief Parker aren't you looking into them. Just call LAPD Hollenbeck and Northeast. They'll tell you. MEAT have that shit you list are lies lies lies

April 11, 2005 12:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Last minute substitution, ADV really wanted KOBE (so they can party together later), but their season record was SO bad his campaign advisors made the switch late "in the game."

April 11, 2005 12:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

224 Hr. Fitness Corporate already getting calls. Boycott, boycott, boycott. At least LAT gave Hahn the debate on Saturday. Antonio is terrified to debate Hahn cause he doesn't know how to answer the fact he's been a total loser for 2 yrs. Little pussy had to have Parks in the audience Saturday. Never underestimate Hahn. Antonio did that in 2001 and lost. It will happen again in 2005.

April 11, 2005 12:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Real estate guy" OH, heck you MEAN "rich developer" -- Ooooooh, be very careful how you play that one guys. "Developer" is a dirty word in many parts of the city, especially among the more rabid, tree-hugging, mountain-climbing ADV groupies and MOST especially near his home in NE L.A. They use "developer" up there as a "cuss" word -- you "mother-developer" - don't you give me that BULL-development - Oh yeah, well your momma's so BIG they're gonna DEVELOP her.

Tread lightly, the broader this (razor-thin) ADV coalition-for-show gets, the harder and harder it gets to pander.

April 11, 2005 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You mean the ADV Coalition of the Witless?

April 11, 2005 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT posts:
LARX- MEAT lists the fact that Antonio opposed LAX as an accomplishment.
New constituent center in El Sereno-again taking credit from former CM
Revived the Gold Line-nothing to revive idiot!
Community Clean-ups-OH hard work threatening and making residents pick up brooms and sweep. Yes, major accomplishment!!!
YES 80 NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES-WE ALL KNOW THEY DO NOT EXIST.

At the end of the day Hahn's record blasts Antonio away. In 2yrs THAT'S ALL MEAT LISTS. Must be because Antonio has been out of touch for the last 2 yrs.

April 11, 2005 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Keep spinning Hahn campaign - but you're going no where but down.

April 11, 2005 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT: (A LITTLE UPSET)

FYI dum-dum LARX is Antonio's prescription drug plan, not his opposing LAX.

blog away dum-dums.

April 11, 2005 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh yeah MEAT and where is that drug plan? Hahn is out trying to help with King/Drew hospital and Antonio "smiling" with Magic. Antonio has promised to bring in business and help Magic with development. AGAIN they have no clue Antonio supports gang bangers. Hey, MEAT since you're out why hasn't Antonio said a word about all those homicides in Boyle Heights????

April 11, 2005 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LAVOICE.ORG POSTS...Villaraigosa isn't exactly selling me on his ability to lead by simply returning mudball for mudball. At times, the guy looks like just another careerist politician - one who managed to completely alienate his own constituents by breaking his promise to stay on for a full term in CD-14 because he hungered so strongly for advancement (and revenge). His AWOL-from-L.A. status on behalf of the Kerry campaign convinces me that he's as much interested in the idea of a higher office as he is in the responsibilities.

April 11, 2005 12:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't see too well from here -- do Chief Parker's lips move when meat "talks?"

April 11, 2005 12:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous Anon said: "MEAT since you're out why hasn't Antonio said a word about all those homicides..."

Is MEAT "out" now? thought the blog wasn't going to do that anymore after the Monica Hahnica thingee?

April 11, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LARX is how ADV's gonna get his meds for ADD, cheaper (he needs 6-8 different meds, and they cost a BUNDLE?)

April 11, 2005 12:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any chance that LARX is the (one) plan ADV put into council already... the one that's been stuck in council for a year with no signs of exiting?

Another uncompleted project??

April 11, 2005 12:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Keep spinning Hahn campaign - but you're going no where but down."

This would be SO clever if it wasn't posted here (without any kind of backup) 10 TIMES EVERY DAMN DAY, practically word for word. I know ADV's paid spinners do the thinking for the whole cultish lot of you groupies, but can someone please pay them another $50K so they can at least come up with 1 or 2 more catchy slogans than "YOU'RE GOING DOWN!"

Hell, I can get that at a Laker's game (against the home team).

April 11, 2005 1:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pretty sad here. A thread about Magic morphs into Antonio is a scumbag.

Is it any wonder that the Hahn campaign is sucking air right now? Can't raise any money; can't even get arrested. And these one track minds just have to keep slamming away at Antonio, blog after blog.

Do you know why the press won't print/air this stuff? Because it is B-O-R-I-N-G. To worsen matters, these guys must have gone to school in the CD 14 as well, because their spelling and grammar mistakes make it even harder to read the trash they keep repeating.

Magic Johnson still has a huge following. I won't go to a Laker game because Kobe makes me sick, but I sure will note when Magic says something, especially in the black community, where he is still held in awe. But then, Jimmy's pretty much given up on those votes, hasn't he? Magic joins Yvonne Braithwaite Burke, Maxine Waters, Herb Wesson, Bernard Parks and several prominent Ministers, including the venerable Cecil "Chip" Murray.

The anti-Antonios can pooh-pooh these endorsements, but they do translate into votes, and whole lot better than those of Nate Holden and Merv Dymally. Holden is an inside joke, and everyone knows he was Kenny boy.

I guess nothing is going to do it for these anti-Antonio fanatics until May 17th, the moment of truth. Antonio needs to rent the Coliseum that night; Jimmy can by with a phone booth.

April 11, 2005 1:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Goldline situation ended BEFORE ADV took office... still can't come up with anything SINCE.

MTA was late 2003 -- and that was HIS JOB, chair of Transporartation committee, (helped with the strike and LOST $20 million from the same committee -- call that a wash, at best).

April 11, 2005 1:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"...these guys must have gone to school in the CD 14 as well..."

How can THAT be -- ADV "SUPPORTS" public schools, right?

April 11, 2005 1:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You wanna talk joke let's say Maxine Waters. Burke allowed King/Drew to go down the toliet. And Parks, please he's an ex-corrupt police chief. Interesting you Antonio supporters still won't give Hahn credit for the best police chief in the nation. Antonio had more endorsements than this in 2001. Did it help him? NO He lost. Timing, timing, timing. Remember 2001? Only this time it's not going to be Hahn. It will be people who know Antonio all too well like all those women he's cheated on. The saying, "nothing like a woman scorn." Even LA Weekly prints Antonio and his so called "coaliton" have been inactive since 2003.

April 11, 2005 1:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Hear that Chief we are the same person!

Stop beating yourself up Chief!

Hey how about this bloggers, i am the same person, i am athena, harrington, even all the anonymouses that post pro-antonio stuff.

you guys are all jokes, if i was chief parker, i wouldn't have attacked antonio during the primary or pumped up bob either. (although i like bob)

The chief has just recently seen the light, i however have been basking in it since day one.

the light that is.

now i am going to sit back and wait for someone to comment on everything i just said about basking in the light.

blog away

April 11, 2005 1:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bask away. Works for me, but then, I don't live in CD 14!

April 11, 2005 1:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hanistas are living in a parallel universe where up is down and bad is good. No other explantion for their crazy spins.

April 11, 2005 1:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT since you're out and about answer this, WHY hasn't Antonio said one word about all those homicides CNN did a special on? Dying to hear your answer. Usually when you ignore these questions it means Ace and Parke are telling you not to since you take their commands

April 11, 2005 1:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA Weekly,on the city council good read more accurate than most on Antonio.

That with the CNN Hollenbeck killings and the last debate , with can be see on www.KCBS from April 5th mayors Sams post are showing some honesty.

April 11, 2005 1:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio has a right to remain silent.

Since you guys have done everything but just outright accuse him of commiting the murders, why should anyone respond to you?

Call the Mayor and Chief Bratton if you want something done!

(And then let us know their response)

So Meat, if you don't respond, that will mean you take orders from the Anti-Antonios and Pacheco and Torres, III and little men in space vehicles. Or, that these rabid guys really think they're making a difference.

April 11, 2005 1:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Yeah that Magic Johnson story is sooo not a big deal.

I mean usually the LA Times doesn't post up to the minute news stories on their site unless it's a big deal.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

Villaraigosa Wins 'Magic' Endorsement in Los Angeles Mayor's Race

Jessica Garrison and Noam N. Levey, Times Staff Writers


Earvin "Magic" Johnson today endorsed Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor of Los Angeles, saying he will "make things happen."

The former Los Angeles Laker star made the announcement in a mirror-lined exercise room at a 24-hour Fitness Club in Sherman Oaks, in which he has a business interest.

Four years ago, Johnson endorsed Villaraigosa's rival, James K. Hahn, the incumbent seeking reelection.

Hahn, meanwhile, was on the front lawn of Martin Luther King/Drew Medical Center this morning, where he stood with political supporters to call for another task force to investigate ways to save the troubled hospital.

Today's endorsement, one of the most sought-after in the city, brings Villaraigosa's campaign a considerable boost with Johnson's cachet as sport celebrity, successful businessman and one of the city's most well-known African Americans.

It is also the latest in a string of high-profile endorsements Villaraigosa has collected since he came in first in the March 8 election, creating the perception that his campaign has momentum heading toward the May 17 runoff.

Villaraigosa and Johnson were joined today by former Mayor Richard Riordan.

Johnson towered over both politicians as he explained that he was backing Villaraigosa, the City Council member, because of his "energy and passion" and because he thinks the former Assembly speaker will do a better job than Hahn of bringing high-paying jobs to Los Angeles.

Under Hahn, Johnson said, "The city is not moving forward. Where are the jobs?"

"Don't get me wrong," Johnson said. "Mayor Hahn is a good guy. He just doesn't have the energy for the job."

Johnson also said he does not believe that Hahn has the connections needed to lure companies to invest in Los Angeles. He pledged to be a partner in the Villaraigosa administration, selling Los Angeles to investors and officials from around the world.

A hoarse-voiced, beaming Villaraigosa pronounced himself "honored that he has put his trust in me," and called Johnson "a symbol of what L.A. is all about."

Villaraigosa then laid out an economic plan that he said would reinvigorate Los Angeles, promising to bring biotech and biomed jobs to the city.

The two men then walked through the health club, greeting people who were working out

April 11, 2005 2:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Monday's a slow news day, MEAT, get a life. . . JewishJournal posted their "Rabbi recants" online, too -- because of when it broke (and because they were embarrassed). Does that make it a BIG DEAL, too?

April 11, 2005 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can you guys get it through your thick heads that threads are supposed to stay on message?

You accuse Antonio of being attention deficit; you show your own ignorance every single time you add irrelevant trashing to your postings.

Please spare our internal mechanisms the pain of blotting out the same repetitive trivia.

If you have something new and RELEVANT to say, say it. Otherwise, go back to your petty bickering in CD 14 and stay there.

Bored and not in CD 14

April 11, 2005 2:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just in case anyone has forgotten:



Name Vote (000)
%

• Villaraigosa 124.5
33.0

• Hahn 89.2
23.7

Hertzberg 83.4
22.2

Parks 50.3
13.4

Alarcon 13.5
3.6

Moore 10.4
2.8

Source: L.A. City Clerk

Let's see, can you CD 14ers add decimals yet?

33.0
13.4
3.6
======

(You do the math)

April 11, 2005 2:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH, I can add numbers REALLY good. BUT do you understand ANYthing of primary/runoff dynamics in the real world (ADV does... 2001), have you EVER seen a candidate carry EVERY vote with them to the endorsement stage (NO... this isn't some kiddie game of "any friend of yours is a friend of mine). Alarcon and Parks votes were NOT all anti-Hahn -- and most Alarcon people I've met on the Eastside wanted to vote for a Latino OTHER than ADV.

The guy quoted today in the DNs story about ADV being all ambition and nothing else was the SAME guy responsible for putting up most of the ALARCON signs on the Eastside (the ones that outnumbered ADV signs 3 to 1). He says "no ADV for me." Just a sampling. . .

Here's what I'VE seen... ADV comes out on top in the primary in 2001, then loses in the final.

And here's another number for you. Number of times ADV wins a citywide race - ZERO; Number of times Hahn wins a citywide race - (ah, nevermind, you can't count that high).

That's high school debating style, adding old numbers like that like they were blocks you could move around stuck to some wannabe, loser's backside -- check and see if there's a magnet school for political realities, so you can catch up.

April 11, 2005 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey poster that was BEFORE most of his community found out he supports gang bangers and illegal vendors. Yup, Antonio once again makes promises he can't keep. These people can't be this dumb. Magic thinks AV wil lure companies to invest in Los Angeles. He pledged to be a partner in the Villaraigosa administration, selling Los Angeles to investors and officials from around the world. Yup, he's going to do something for Magic. Hahn is more concerned about a hospital that is going under. A hospital that Waters, Burke and the other black losers didn't care about in one of the poorest communities. Magic's people didn't know AV's record supporting gangs. They're shocked. News items have been sent to them.

April 11, 2005 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, bored non-CD14 poster.. Why don't you start your own blog for "people interested in the mayor's race, but who don't care about the candidates' recent background or qualifications."

I'm sure you'll get 1,000 hits by -- next year?

April 11, 2005 3:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Seriously, dude, Chief Parker would run that blog for you - in a minute... supposed "conservative Republican" who hates Hahn so much he'll endorse a tax-em-till-they-drop (and then tax the droppings), visonless "visionary," socialist ACLU-liberal.

April 11, 2005 3:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hello,

Thought you might want to see this site.

http://recallvillaraigosa.com/

Is this really happening now, or is it an old site?

April 11, 2005 3:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous at 2:58, that is THE silliest argument posted here so far (and that includes MEAT's apples and road apples comparison). This isn't some kind of corporate spreadsheet where you can add the numbers also-rans picked up to those of the other candidates like the results of some merger. You're looking for some kind of instant run-off, but 10 weeks of bitter, muddy one-on-one campaigning is like these two have entered an entirely different contest.

April 11, 2005 3:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is the same dumb website they've had up for months. No content. No changes. No campaign. No signatures. (Timing, timing, timing! HA!) The Phantom Recall.

April 11, 2005 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As a CD 14 constituent I and others in my community feel used as a political tool by Villaraigosa for his own gains. We were his stepping stone to his political agendas.

Good Article by the L.A. Daily News titled, "Villaraigosa's ambition alienates some."

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2809805,00.html

April 11, 2005 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn is just as unlikely to get all of Hertzberg's votes, as well, but I didn't include them.

This is not about four years ago, it is about the last four years.

Sleepy, lazy Jim has alienated his two core constituencies, and is unlikely to cobble them together again to pull off the reverse of 2001.

He will be sliming away anyway, but this time, the slime will be all over himself.

Keep up your hopes; and keep playing the game just the way you have been, because it will all be over soon enough.

April 11, 2005 3:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:47. Look at it this way. We in CD14 have had to endure two years of a very bad councilmember. If you read this blog regularly you obviously have some idea of our concerns. I cannot imagine CM Villaraigosa is going to be some new totally brilliant mayor when he really set back CD 14 considerably. Learn from our mistakes, don't criticize us. Who knows, you may be feeling the same way about Antonio soon.

April 11, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

More garbled Harriman-numbers from Athena (look back pre-primary and see how badly these fared before, HA!)

Here's the number they always miss... ADV can't TOUCH some 20 percent of the total -- Republicans included in the L.A. registered voting totals; Hahn can, HAS and probably will again. That's a HUGE handicap for ADV. To have 1 in 5 likely voters completely out of reach of any spin you try for (except Chief Parker, of course).

AND THEN, (talk about silly), you re-parse these primary numbers like the people who voted (and especially the exit-polling voters), are STILL going to mke up the whole pie to be split up. You think 28 percent is ALL that's gonna vote next month? In a one-on-one that includes a rabid liberal socialist like ADV (who can't even go on a major talk radio show in L.A. for fear they'll ask him something about illegal immigration). Codger, PLEASE!

(P.S. clear up your talking points, people... as of March 8, there is no more "Hertzberg" vote or "Parks" vote anymore. These aren't pledged delagates at the Dem-Dum convention). As of that date, there's just 80+ percent of the registered voters in L.A who DIDN'T vote for EITHER of these two guys, trying to pick one or the other (or deciding to stay home).

April 11, 2005 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which is the least "seen" in CD14, boys and girls who play on the Eastside... the "Phantom" Recall or the 80 INVISIBLE New Neighborhood Watches ADV claims as his main accomplishment for two years' paychecks?

(Trick question: the LEAST seen in CD14 is ADV himself).

April 11, 2005 3:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Brulte, Keith Richman and Richard Riordan and Curt Pringle are all influential Republican elected officials who have endorsed Antonio.

A former Chair of the California Republican Party is doing an Independent Expenditure supporting Antonio and has raised a lot of money.

For you to believe that he "cannot touch" Republicans is erroneous, think again.

I am a Republican and have known Antonio since before he was in the Assemnbly (I've known Jimmy longer), so don't be so sure of your assumptions. I have seen many, many Republicans giving and supporting Antonio, including Nate and Wendy Brogin of the Valley who are hosting over 200 people at the end of the month.

Back to the drawing boards boys.

April 11, 2005 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The same argument could be made that many influental Republicans DO NOT support Villaraigosa. It's really a dead issue...

April 11, 2005 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn-hater sez' "Sleepy, lazy Jim has alienated his two core constituencies..."

Do-nothing incompetent ADV continues to alienate his previous core groups... NO core group wants someone who does NOTHING - even for his supporters. (What's the point of being a "special interest" when the CM has NO interest in the community AT ALL).

(Hahn has earned additional respect elsewhere in the city for making some touch decisions that alienated some past core constituents -- instead of pander-promising to smaller special interests until he was cornered, like ADV).

Isn't "progressive" supposed to mean moving ahead (even slowly)? Read the L.A. Weekly. . .

ADV in CD14 has been a "stagnantic."

April 11, 2005 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Curt Pringle... mayor of Anaheim, good buddy to Bob "redneck racist" Dornan, Pshaw, give me a frickin' break!

April 11, 2005 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness

April 11, 2005 4:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I didn't say Pringle ws a Democrat, I said he has endorsed Antonio and that means a lot to the 20% of us that all vote.

I don't expect you guys to understand Republican politics, but aside for LA, San Francisco, New York and Chicago, the rest of the country seems to get it...

April 11, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Playing word-games here, ANON, RINO Riordan, sure... but "have endorsed" (as in what year??)

Brulte, Richman, Pringle... not on ADV's list of elected officials. Is Mr. ACLU ashamed -- is he afraid he'll lose even more of the core spreading his pander-brush this wide.

"have endorsed?"

April 11, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness

hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness

hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness

hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness

There, we're good for another week with the insipid "you're sick" NO. "you're sick" slams that have nothing to do with reality or issues. Learn some "yo mama" jokes instead, at least you'll be entertaining.

Feel better? Now, remember WHY ADV entered this race (and the one 2003) in the first place, bitter... bitter... bitter.

April 11, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

there are many mental health clinic available...

April 11, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio's gonna lose again... you're gonna all cry!

April 11, 2005 4:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There are also spelling, grammar and typing tutors available.

April 11, 2005 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(See how fucking annoying and unproductive that is, what are all you Hahn-haters anyway, aging, washed up Laker girls?

WE'RE GONNA WIN, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE!

Neener neener!

April 11, 2005 4:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The anonymous blogger that posted the following:

"hahn folks are suffering from dimentia caused by excessive bitterness"

This sounds like communist chanting to me, I think you are the desperado and fail to see that constituents are not stupid. Repetitiveness is one of Villaraigosa's traits another is taking credit for other's hard work. Also, I can tolerate your socialistic mind, but will all of Los Angeles/Valley be able to tolerate Villaraigosa's socialistic propaganda?

April 11, 2005 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Give me an "A"
Give me a "D"
Give me a "V"

What does that spell?

MUNICIPAL BANKRUPTCY AND CIVIC STAGNATION!

Yay, yay, yay! Way to GO team!

April 11, 2005 4:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I want a Villaraigosa Campaign Staffer to comment on the Mexican Government officials that are constantly present at his fundraisers and East L.A. Headquarter political events? Why are they so involved with local politics and especially in his staff?

April 11, 2005 4:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio's going DOWN...

Villaraigosa's gonna LOSE...

Tony V. is DONE, stick a fork in him...

ADV's career is over - send him back to Mount Washington...

GEE, that is fun! Useless, but fun.

April 11, 2005 4:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They Mexican Governnment officials are scouting ADV as a replacement for Vicente Fox if his negatives go up at all. (Even THEY know he'll never be elected mayor of L.A.)

And, he's happy to move to get a better paying job -- proved it in 2003 (of course the commute to take his kids to private schools in Pasadena's gonna be a BITCH on the family car if that happens).

April 11, 2005 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HECK, yeah, Tony can't have his trophy kids going to school with MEXICANS!!

April 11, 2005 4:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Isn't it a little early for tequila shooters?

You guys should enjoy yourself now, but I see little hope to make up over 20 point deficit. Maybe close it to 7 or 8, but that's about it.

Not enough money, not enough time, not enough issues.

The people will just not stand for a third sliming by Mud Throwing Jimmy; he is being watched by everyone and the media will kill him.

April 11, 2005 5:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Damn. Caught us. The revanchist dream lives. The Mexican officials are negotiating the return of certain West Valley neighborhoods. It's not Aztlan, it's secession.

April 11, 2005 5:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a huge disappointment the Hahn campaign is. This race has slipped away from the mayor, not because of Hahn himself, a decent man in my view, but a campaign that has been outsmarted on every level. Hahn is clearly better than Villaraigosa but the Villaraigosa team is far superior to the Hahn camp. The mayor would have done himself a lot of good if he had some of the posters here on his team. But I know many were told that they were not needed. And now the city will suffer for the next four to 8 years or to whenever Villaraigosa decides to move on to greener pastures.

April 11, 2005 5:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't worry about Antonio's staff and what they are doing; see if yiu can find the AWOL Mayor.

It's a shame that you don't have a stronger candidate; life ould be so much easier.

Krrp proping himup, cause if you forget to do so, he's crumple like a wet rag...

Send him out sliming, that's all he can do now.

April 11, 2005 5:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wow, it's catching. Now Antonio's guys can't spell check.

Look, Jerome Horton or Magic Johnson?

Yvonne Braithwaite Burke or Merv Dymally?

Nate Holden or Bernard Parks?

Antonio will be off for a few days while he raises some money, but stay tuned for more endorsements by the end of the week.

Hertzberg best not wait too much longer, the train is leaving the station.

April 11, 2005 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"The mayor would have done himself a lot of good if he had some of the posters here on his team."

Yeah, Hahn could have made the campaign a referendum on Antonio's personal life. Oh, and the dog park. That would have turned it around.

If Hahn's people stay away from the posters on this blog, that will demonstrate an impressive, if rare, display of good sense.

April 11, 2005 5:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Laura Chick said "Hahn's campaign either has no reaction or over reaction". What an astute statement.

Kam Kuwata has downplayed the Magic endorsement, after chasing him for months and being rejected, this endorsement has suddenly become meaningless. So meaningless that the Daily News also posted this afternoon and didn't wait for tomorrow, either. Kam must be dizzy; he is spinning 24/7 now.

The man's right, you better hurry up Huggy. Just put your foot down and tell the doctor you are a man. What's one more divorce, anyway?

April 11, 2005 6:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clearly the writer of this story doesn't know that the Valley means nothing compared to CD 14. Where are the rapes, the murders and the fighting in school? Viva La 14!!!

This story is taken from Politics at sacbee.com.

All eyes on the valley

Residents will likely cast 40% of ballots in L.A. mayor runoff
By Laura Mecoy -- Bee Los Angeles Bureau

Published 2:15 am PDT Monday, April 11, 2005

LOS ANGELES - The late comic Bob Hope called the San Fernando Valley "Cleveland with palm trees."
Actor Samuel Jackson complained about getting stuck there in "Pulp Fiction." Historian Kevin Starr predicted pornography would be the San Fernando Valley's "signature cultural contribution."

In popular culture, the vast expanse of tract homes and mini-malls north of the Santa Monica Mountains has long been a source of humor and derision.

But in local politics, it's no laughing matter.

San Fernando Valley residents were so fed up with City Hall's lack of respect they waged an unsuccessful campaign to divorce themselves from Los Angeles three years ago.

Now, their votes are expected to decide who will run City Hall for the next four years: Mayor James Hahn or City Councilman and former state Assembly Speaker Antonio Villaraigosa, who would be the city's first Latino mayor in modern times.

"If you lose the valley, you are not going to win," said Bill Carrick, Hahn's political consultant. "There are just too many voters in the valley."

In the May 17 mayoral runoff election, San Fernando Valley voters are expected to cast at least 40 percent of the ballots, far more than any other part of the city.

Their ballots gave Hahn the edge over Villaraigosa when the two faced off for the mayor's job in 2001 and provided the winning margin for the previous mayor, Richard Riordan.

This time, San Fernando Valley consultant John Shallman said the area's vote is "up for grabs."

Historically, the San Fernando Valley has favored the more conservative candidates. But like the rest of Los Angeles, immigration has transformed an almost all-white enclave into a sprawling suburb where racial and ethnic minorities are now a majority of the population.

The Santa Monica Mountains separate it from the rest of the city, prompting San Fernando Valley residents to complain about being ignored by city officials "over the hill."

These feelings gave rise to the 2002 vote on whether the San Fernando Valley should break away from Los Angeles to form its own city.

Hahn led the campaign to keep the city together and won. It was a high point for him but a low point for many valley residents.

The mayor has tried to repair these strained relations by improving city services to the area. He's opened a new police dispatch station there and championed the creation of neighborhood councils to give residents a bigger voice in local government.

"We want people to be much more involved," Hahn said. "This is how I see L.A. work. It works from the bottom up, not the top down."

Daniel Villegas, a real estate agent who serves on the North Hills West Neighborhood Council, said he supported secession but that Hahn has won him over.

"He has more footing in government than Villaraigosa has, and he's able to organize and get more things done," Villegas said.

But Mary Edwards told the mayor at a Granada Hills campaign event that valley residents still "feel nobody pays any attention" at City Hall.

Villaraigosa is trying to capitalize on that sentiment, claiming the mayor has ignored the area. The councilman has made some inroads by winning over business and secession leaders who previously backed Hahn.

He's also ahead of the mayor in fund raising. He has collected $653,255 since the March 8 primary, while donors gave just $407,795 to Hahn.

Hahn was behind Villaraigosa in fund raising in 2001, and still won the San Fernando Valley vote and the election. This year, the two were statistically tied in a Los Angeles Times exit poll of the valley's vote in the March 8 primary.

In that election, the big winner in the San Fernando Valley was valley resident and former Assembly Speaker Bob Hertzberg. He picked up 34 percent of the valley's primary vote but not enough ballots throughout the city to make the runoff.

Hahn and Villaraigosa are jockeying for Hertzberg's endorsement in hopes of making gains in the valley.

Hertzberg hasn't sided with either one, and it's uncertain whether he will because he has criticized Hahn and his relationship with Villaraigosa has been strained.

Hertzberg won over San Fernando Valley voters with his campaign vow to break up the Los Angeles Unified School District. Hahn and Villaraigosa pointed out that the mayor has no power over the schools. But they've made education reform part of their pitches.

In a recent campaign stop at a Van Nuys school, Villaraigosa promised to make education reform a "top priority" and criticized Hahn for standing on the "sidelines."

Many of his education proposals are similar to ones advanced by Hahn. The difference, Villaraigosa said, is Hahn has "no record" of actively involving himself in the schools.

"People are looking for a fresh start," he said. "They are looking for a mayor who will not just campaign on these issues but do something about it."

Hahn, during a San Fernando Valley visit that same day, claimed education had long been a top priority, and he could show "results, not rhetoric."

Analysts said Hahn needs San Fernando Valley votes more than Villaraigosa because the mayor has lost support in other parts of the city and among the African American voters who helped him win in 2001.

"Hahn has been focusing like a laser on the valley since the primary," said University of Southern California analyst Sherry Bebitch Jeffe.

Richard Katz, a former San Fernando Valley assemblyman, said Hahn won the valley's vote in 2001 by scaring voters with an ad linking Villaraigosa to a convicted drug dealer.

"It's harder to scare people now," San Fernando Valley political consultant Larry Levine said. "They know more about (Villaraigosa)."

Instead of reviving the drug ad, the mayor is touting his crime-fighting record and challenging Villaraigosa's commitment to public safety, an issue that resonates throughout Los Angeles.

In a recent debate, for instance, Hahn criticized the councilman's opposition to a city sales tax increase to pay for more police. Villaraigosa said he supported an earlier, countywide tax increase for law enforcement, but the voters' rejection of it showed the public didn't want to pay more taxes for more police.

The councilman is focusing his attacks on Hahn's leadership, claiming the city has been "paralyzed" by the scandals surrounding the mayor's administration.

Several investigations are under way into claims that Hahn's supporters received city contracts in exchange for campaign contributions. Hahn has denied the charges, and no one in his administration has been indicted.

Joel Kotkin, a San Fernando Valley resident who has written extensively about the region, said neither candidate's appeals are striking a chord in the San Fernando Valley.

"The valley is getting disengaged from the city," the New America Foundation Irvine fellow said. "People feel they are part of the city, but they live in their own neighborhoods, and they really don't have much to do with the rest of the city."


About the writer:
The Bee's Laura Mecoy can be reached at (310) 546-5860 or lmecoy@sacbee.com.

April 11, 2005 6:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:57 If you bothered to read past the salacious stuff you would have seen that many posters on this site have a better grasp of politics than what have been demonstrated in either the mayor's campaign or Hertzberg's... Why do you think Parke Skelton, you, and all the other campaigns log on here? To read MEAT? I don't think so.

April 11, 2005 7:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This was Antonio's 10-point plan when he took office on public safety. He hasn't done NOT ONE OF THEM. However, HAHN has completed many of these points for him in CD14
Antonio Villaraigosa's ten-point plan to reduce violence
1. Interagency cooperation.
2. Expand police presence in parks.
3. Work with schools.
4. Early intervention.
5. Target graffiti.
6. Hire more police officers.
7. Expand real community-based policing.
8. Protect witnesses.
9. Train officers to prevent conflict.
10. Tougher gun laws.
These two promises were included in the mailer.

Villaraigosa will work on creating an after school program for every
middle school in the 14th Council District.

Villaraigosa will work to coordinate with our schools and libraries to provide alternatives to our children.

April 11, 2005 7:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

EXTRA! EXTRA! LAPD OFFICERS ON THE MOVE. Parks people telling some local cops Antonio promised to get rid of 3-12 flexible work schedule. LAPD officers ready to leave the department. They hate Antonio because he supports gang bangers while their out risking their lives for hard working families. Expect a MAJOR EXODUS OF LAPD if Antonio wins.

April 11, 2005 7:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Expect LA to get worst with illegal immigrants if Antonio gets in.
NY Times Story on LA
April 6 - Carlos Barrera, an illegal immigrant, went on a rampage in Hollywood five months ago, the police said. In the span of two hours, they said, he mugged three people, burglarized two apartments and pushed his way into an apartment, where he tried to rape a woman in front of her 5-year-old daughter.
Mr. Barrera, a Mexican, had been deported four years ago after serving time for robbery, drugs and burglary. He had made his way back into the United States, and although he had been stopped twice for traffic violations, the police were prohibited from reporting him to the immigration authorities.
Almost any Los Angeles police officer will say that some of the most cutthroat criminals here are illegal immigrants. And yet, the police complain that they cannot use immigration status to apprehend a convicted criminal who was ordered deported.
Known as a sanctuary policy, the police rules here prohibit officers from inquiring about someone's immigration status with the federal authorities unless that person is being charged with a crime.

April 11, 2005 7:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

sad that this kind of racism lives on in our society

April 11, 2005 8:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 8:19pm it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with people who don't belong here committing violent crimes. Antonio doesn't give a damn about the crime in his own district. 15 homicides and counting and he is MIA. Antonio protects illegal vendors in his own district illegally doing business and making tax free money. These illegal vendors are selling drugs, alcohol to minors just to make money. Antonio is yet to address the issue. Its about CRIME.

April 11, 2005 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Daily News: Villaraigosa's ambition alienates some

As councilman, Villaraigosa's office recently put out a 30-page booklet of his accomplishments in his first 18 months in office, which included such routine items as staffing field offices, publishing a community directory and responding to constituent complaints.

Yeah, this is the experienced, qualified type of mayor we need.

April 11, 2005 8:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sympathetic to the scenario "7:30" laid out. But I'm still confused about how it would be implemented. Here are a couple of possibilities:

1. Officers would have to question every person about legal status. Lots of people would be pretty pissed off about this one.

Or

2. Officers could select those they suspect, i.e., Latinos, and just to show it's not racist policy, anyone with an accent. Still lots of room for abuse and racial profiling claims.

But here are a couple of follow-up questions:

A. Why hasn't Jim Hahn had the Police Commission change this? According to JH supporters, it took guts to fire Parks - so he's proven he'll stand up and "do the right thing." So why not get his appointed commissioners to raise this issue and change it?

B. Conversely, why suggest that Latino candidate needs to PROVE his loyalties to LA residents and support this policy change?

C. Does LAPD get reimbursed by the feds for doing their job, that is, immigration work? These investigations and potential arrests translate into local taxpayer dollars, which we also give to the feds. So now we have to divert scarce law enforcement resources to additional immigration enforcement?

April 11, 2005 8:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

But Johnson was outraged, like many blacks, when Hahn helped push out the city's black police chief, Bernard Parks, in 2002.

This black police chief made us lose 1,000 police officers. Antonio can have this idiot endorsement. If Magic is that small minded they deserve eachother.

April 11, 2005 8:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sheriff Lee Baca, on radio this a.m., says up to one-quarter of violent felons in county jail (which includes city arrestees), are illegal immigrants, many having been deported more than once.

ADV is pre-primary debate, to radio's McIntyre -- illegal immigration is not a factor in violent crime in Los Angeles and it's racist to say that.

Huh?

(ADV apparently doesn't even has a much political acument as some of the nastier bloggers posting here).

April 12, 2005 12:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How important is this endorsement? Villaraigosa's OWN Website didn't even update for it, same day. The lead there is still "Maxine."

You ADV-lovers can only spin in the same direction as your master without contradicting him -- better stick with the playbook...

April 12, 2005 12:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Geez, if I had a nickel for everytime the pro-Antonio bloggers here have "nailed" Jim Hahn's coffin shut, I could hire a full-time copy of my own.

April 12, 2005 12:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa has given his reason for his children attending a private school v.s. LAUSD. Well, I think he is lying about it being just for religious reasons. If the private school was underperforming would he still send his kids there for religious reasons? I don't think so! I know the Villaraigosa campaign staffers blog and read on this site...why are mexican government officials at the East LA Headquarters?

April 12, 2005 12:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH, OH, OH..What's this? Not good news for the Hahnistas. More nails for the coffin.

"Doug Who, again". You know, Hahn confidante and close advisor?


Los Angeles Daily News


More DWP fallout
Second person to face charges


By Beth Barrett
Staff Writer

Monday, April 11, 2005 - The federal investigation of City Hall corruption will lead to a second indictment soon in connection with alleged overbilling of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power by the Fleishman-Hillard public-relations firm, Assistant U.S. Attorney Adam D. Kamenstein disclosed in court Monday.

Kamenstein told U.S. District Court Judge Gary Feess that there would be a superseding indictment, which would add one other individual as a defendant, in the 11-count wire-fraud case against John Stodder, a former senior vice president at Fleishman-Hillard.

Kamenstein offered no other details beyond indicating that the indictment could come down before the May 17 runoff election between Mayor James Hahn and Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa. During the primary and now in the runoff, Hahn has tried to fend off repeated attacks that his administration is the most-investigated one since the City Hall scandals of the 1930s. Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor and Loyola Law School professor, said the disclosure indicates more people are cooperating "or they would have been named in the first indictment."

"They'll continue to do the squeeze play."

Levenson said another indictment - even if it doesn't involve a current or former Hahn administration official - would hurt the mayor politically.

"It's all bad for Hahn," she said. "It's like picking the scab off and constantly reminding people of corruption."

Hahn's spokesman, Deputy Mayor Doane Liu, said the indictment "has nothing to do with the mayor," who has repeatedly said no evidence has surfaced to show that anyone in his administration was engaged in "pay-to-play" contracting deals for campaign funds or in other forms of public corruption.

"The city of Los Angeles and the ratepayers are the victims here, and he (Hahn) is demanding that they be repaid and that justice be served," Liu said.

Fleishman-Hillard was accused in City Controller Laura Chick's audit of overbilling by more than $4 million in a series of city contracts worth nearly $25 million, mostly with the DWP. The firm maintained close ties with key Hahn aides, providing extensive free political advice and billing the DWP for hundreds of thousands of dollars in public-relations work that directly benefited the mayor.

Liu said Hahn's position is that the city must get its money back, "and anyone who's stolen from the ratepayers should be punished."

The indictment is expected either at the end of this month or by the end of May at the latest. Kamenstein, in an interview after the hearing, said the timing is contingent solely on his schedule.

The disclosures came during a status conference for Stodder - who pleaded not guilty in February to the charges - amid a discussion of factors that might affect his Aug. 2 trial date.

Generally, new charges or new defendants - or both - are added in an indictment that supersedes an earlier one. Kamenstein made it clear this one would involve a new individual.

The Jan. 13 indictment of Stodder claimed that two unnamed "co-schemers" were involved in padding Fleishman-Hillard's bills submitted each month to the DWP, the Port of Los Angeles, the World Wide Church of God and architect Frank Gehry's firm.

The indictment specifically accuses Stodder of directing employees to pad their DWP billings by a total of $250,000.

Stodder attorney Jan Handzlik said he had no comment on Monday's court proceedings. Attorneys representing former Fleishman-Hillard executives involved in the investigations also said they were caught off guard by the announcement. They said none of them had been notified that one of their clients might be indicted.

Company officials have acknowledged overbilling of about $600,000 but have denied there was any pattern of misconduct or that top management was aware of any problems.

Richard S. Kline, Fleishman-Hillard's regional president and senior partner, said he had no information regarding the latest announcement of a new indictment.

"Any comment about the grand jury investigation and actions arising from (it) should come from authorities. The company has been cooperating with authorities since the investigation began months ago, and we'll continue to cooperate fully.

"This is now a matter for the justice system."

---
Beth Barrett, (818) 713-3731 beth.barrett@dailynews.com

April 12, 2005 1:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You Antonio lovers are so out of the loop and sound just as uninformed as Antonio when he opens his stupid mouth without doing his homework. If you read the newspapers and watched the news last week LAPD has implemented a policy change. They will go after SUSPECTED FELONY illegal immigrants. This will help and it won't hurt those that are innocent. Most officers know who these felons are.

April 12, 2005 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Magic endorsed Antonio because he has energy. That's one of the most lame ass excuses on record. That's what I think Los Angeles needs, is a mayor with energy.

Someone should tell Riordan and Magic that Antonio doesn't keep his promises.....
Villaraigosa used his event with Johnson and Riordan to say he would ask them to be part of a kitchen cabinet of advisers to help him craft an economic plan for the city.

Yup, Antonio can't do anything himself so he needs all the help he can get.

April 12, 2005 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Magic sounds just as racist as the rest of the blacks who have endorsed Antonio. If they can't see through the color barriers that Parks was a bad chief who was corrupt, was responsible for Rampart and promoted his corrupted friends then he's just an uneducated as the rest. I'm hoping there are more intelligent blacks that smart enough to know the difference.

April 12, 2005 8:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're hopin' against hope. We're all pretty out there. Isn't it funny, we're the racist's for supporting the Latino over the white guy.

Sounds like you kinda' miss the good ol' days of Jim Crow politics. Thank God for this anonymous blog so our true feelings can be expressed.

Maybe you should suggest an IQ test for voting. Ahh, but then there are those Red states . . .

April 12, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It isn't the IQ of the ADV-lovers that in question, it's the mental stability. Devotion based on no proven results in two years is not a logical path. It borders on a Koreshian cultism.

April 12, 2005 5:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To Anon 7:48,
I don't see why either candidate would disagree with such a measure by the LAPD nor do I see as significantly breaking with Special Order 40. I am not a lawyer but as far as I know Special Order 40 only prohibits the LAPD from inquiring about a person who they are in casual contact withs immigration status. The intention of course was to encourage people who might otherwise fear deportation but have been victimized by a crime to come forward without fear of punishment. The intention was not to bar police officers from reporting to immigration people they had already picked up for another crime-i.e a violent gang member who also entered the country illegally might be reported to the INS as far as I know and even so I don't think that's what the intention of the law was. This 'revision' is therefore not really a break with prior policy but just a clarification.

-- Charlie Carnow

April 12, 2005 7:19 PM  

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