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Wednesday, April 13, 2005

Hahn Blasts Villar

In today LA Times Hahn goes on the attack against Tony Villar.

Daily News has this story as well.

Jessica Garrison reports..."There are some more questions here that need to be answered," Hahn said. The mayor charged that Villaraigosa "continues to evade responsibility" for his actions and he called on Villaraigosa to release all of his phone records and electronic communications pertaining to Vignali...

Rick Orlov writes..."My opponent keeps saying this is an election about trust," said Hahn, who also raised the Vignali letters as an issue during the 2001 mayoral election. "I think he needs to come forward to answer this and offer an explanation for his role in this. He has never satisfactorily answered it."

Does this attack still work? And why bring it up again if every voter already knows this about Antonio? Is it to remind them just in case they forgot? Just wondering.

If you read Orlov's entire article at the end he reports that Mayor Hahn is unsure whether he will use this issue in his ads again.



Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't believe that either the Times or the Daily News would even print this story again. This is recycled news from 2001.

What about Roger Cardinal Mahoney, should he release his records as well? He wrote the same stupid letter, and all it did was ask for leniency.

If this is all Jimmy has, he is really up a creek without a paddle.

April 13, 2005 2:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker thanks for printed this. Its a first. YES, the voters need to be reminded what a sleaze bag Antonio is taking money from a drug family. If they find out Antonio called the prosecutors to get that drug lord who was caught with over 800 lbs of cocaine then it is a federal offense. It already is working.

People in this city are still mad at Mahoney for protecting those priests who abused young boys. He didn't cooperate with the investigation and held crucial evidence. I will never step foot in the Cathedral.

April 13, 2005 7:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gotta love Bill Handel on KFI this morning at 8:30am. He went after Villaraigosa and said that if he wins he'll do everything to give more rights to illegal immigrants. They will all come to LA. He also said he's a career politican and will leave LA for higher office. Also said Blacks are being racist if not voting for Hahn because he got rid of Parks. Shameful! 5 WEEKS IS A LONG TIME

April 13, 2005 9:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Handel (Handle?) is the morning drive time host on the largest talk station in L.A., and the first to really go hard out against ADV.

More to follow, for sure:

possibly even Ingraham, who keeps an eye on L.A.

. . . and yes, even Hahn-baiting John & Ken, when push comes to shove, will tear into ADV on-air.

This is what the phony baloney poll numbers have brought down on ADV's head only half-way down the runoff stretch -- a half-dozen drive-time talk jocks with more listeners than any of his recent endorsers have constituents, blasting him day after and he can't show his "face" on their shows out of cowardice and rabidly indefensible socialist policies.

Hahn's "stupid" campaign people couldn't have planned it better, or paid enough to get this happening to Antonio in the final stretch.

Yeah, 5 weeks is a LONG time -- about 25 days and 60-80 potential hours of Antonio bashing by the predominantly libertarian and Republican airwave mega-voices, in a city where nearly EVER voter has to be in their car sometime during these hours.

Oh well, there's always that junior league 50-watter for Antonio that runs Air America(are they even broadcasting this month, or not?), or KPFK to bail him out.

April 13, 2005 9:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa's people can't raise enough in 5 weeks to make up for the fact taht Hahn can get free drive-time coverage, 20-30 minutes of high profile talk, every day from now on with these radio outlets. ADV can't get squat.

Bill Handle - 2
Magic Johnson - 1

April 13, 2005 10:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:49 a.m., think about it -- if this was "ALL" Hahn's people have, they wouldn't be throwing it out this week.

Big stuff to come (but NO indictments).

Boo Hoo!

April 13, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Screw a letter for drug dealer.

Why didn't LA meet the minimum requirements for the stem cell institute, Mr. Hahn?

How could the administration bungle such an important prospect?

That would have meanth THOUSANDS of new high-paying jobs, a boost to the local economy and increased revenue for the City.

This demonstrates the ABSOLUTE FAILURE of this administration to deliver for Los Angeles!

April 13, 2005 10:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can we all say Larry Elder? He is a conservative who agrees that Parks should have been dumped. He's also black and is more educated then most of them who are racists. You're right poster Hahn couldn't have asked for anything better than drive time radio talk hosts going after AV on his affiliation with MECHA, supporting gangs as Bill Handel said and his socialism attitude that Mexico City will now be coming into LA

April 13, 2005 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:49 ANON

Keep in mind, Mahoney is not elected - unless he becomes pope. He needed money for his Cathedral and he wasn't going to lose sleep over it.

Tony, however, was and is an elected official and thus subject to the public trust. We know what the Cardinal got, what did Tony get. And he didn't only ask for leniency. He said he reviewed the case and then he lied about it. Remmber Clinton, he got impeached not because of what he got, but because he lied about it.

There is so much more to this story than the public is aware of - just like many of Tony's other episodes. Why do you think Ron Martinez, Gloria's husband - and Parke's best psychotic friend, didn't want Tony to run. ENRon Martinez knows what's out there. He knows Tony won't go down by himself - he will drag his friends down with him.

After all these Tony endorsements and press coverage, do you notice how calm Hahn is remaining. In 2001 Kuwata just tapped Tony with the crack pipe, I wonder what he has now.

And I'm with you 2:49 ANON, I can't believe the Times printed this either - I thought Parke had them all on a leash.

April 13, 2005 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:32 ANON

Don't worry about the thousands of jobs - by freeing Vignali, I'm sure Tony created about that many jobs already - and in the drug/medical field too. Only thing is, you can't report drug pushers.

This demonstrates ABSOLUTE FAILURE of character in Tony.

April 13, 2005 10:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's not forget what Parke said about Vignali:


Convict's Father a Wealthy, Well-Liked Mediator on the L.A.Political Scene
Profile: Horacio Carlos Vignali has donated thousands across party lines. He puts emphasis on strengthening the Latino community, aides say.
Los Angeles Times
February 13, 2001

"He's just this big, genuine guy that everyone seems to love," said Parke Skelton, a consultant to former Assembly Speaker and Los Angeles mayoral candidate Antonio Villaraigosa, one of the politicians who helped. "He'll be there wearing this apron, covered in barbecue sauce, making these huge slabs of beef."

Hey Parke, was that meat kosher?

April 13, 2005 11:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:49 ANON
Before you run and hide behind Mahoney, look at the company he and Tony keep:

L.A. Politicians Urged Pardon of Cocaine Dealer
Los Angeles Times
February 12, 2001

Mahony also wrote the pardon office in 1996. He noted that Torres, Villaraigosa, state Sen. Richard G. Polanco and L.A. City Councilman Richard Alatorre "had reviewed this case very carefully and each one has concluded that the facts in this case merit a full evaluation and review . . .

"I now wish to add my voice recommending that all of the process, the law and the facts in this case be reviewed fully to determine if justice has been achieved in the case of Mr. Carlos Vignali Jr." the cardinal wrote. Calls to Mahony's office went unanswered Sunday night.

April 13, 2005 11:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The issue is not that he wrote the letter, it is that he and his conultants lied about it over and over again. As mentioned before, when you try and spin shit, it's just like when it hits the fan.
Vignali Case Casts Shadow Over Mayor's Race
Election: Becerra and Villaraigosa wrote letters on behalf of the drug trafficker, whose father donated to their campaigns. They have taken different approaches in handling recent outcry.
Los Angeles Times
February 20, 2001

Villaraigosa's role in the case dates back five years and appears to pose a lesser threat to his candidacy, which enjoys growing support from a wide swath of backers.

"It's very possible that our opponents will try to resurrect it at some point," acknowledged consultant Parke Skelton. "But people will look at how Antonio dealt with the problem. He was very forthright and did the honorable thing."

In an interview last week, Villaraigosa said he wrote one letter for Vignali in 1996 to the judge overseeing the appeal of the case, asking him to review the issue. He insisted that he never wrote to the White House.

"I wrote that letter without talking to prosecutors on the other end," Villaraigosa said. "I shouldn't have done that. I went with my heart as a father, and not with my head."

However, the letter the former Assembly speaker wrote May 24, 1996, was addressed to the pardon secretary at the White House, and in it Villaraigosa stated that Vignali had been wrongly convicted.

"After reviewing Mr. Vignali's case, I am convinced that he has been falsely linked to a drug ring . . . and that his conviction is a product of 'guilt by association,' " Villaraigosa wrote.

Later, Villaraigosa said he had not reviewed the letter before speaking to a reporter. He said he incorrectly recalled details of his correspondence.

"incorrectly recalled details", in other words, lying!

April 13, 2005 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's nice to see that Del Olmos legacy is still being heard, or read:


Don't Lump Vignali Pardon With Others
Los Angeles Times
February 18, 2001
Author: FRANK del OLMO; Frank del Olmo is an associate editor of The TimesOp Ed Desk

Only Villaraigosa got so carried away that he suggested Carlos Vignali might be innocent.

April 13, 2005 11:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Tony, what does Maxine think about the Vignali case:

Vignali Case Casts Shadow Over Mayor's Race
Election: Becerra and Villaraigosa wrote letters on behalf of the drug trafficker, whose father donated to their campaigns. They have taken different approaches in handling recent outcry.
Los Angeles Times
February 20, 2001

The candidates' actions also drew criticism from African American leaders and parents of drug offenders, who complained that the officials had done a favor for a well-connected donor.

"If they are going to fight for the rights of one drug offender," Earl Ofari Hutchinson, president of the National Alliance for Positive Action, said in a news conference Thursday, "then they need to be prepared to do the same thing for other drug offenders."

April 13, 2005 11:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Where are the jobs, Jim Hahn?

Oooops. Were we supposed to indicate our City's name on the application?

How could we be so careless, or should I say, incompetent.

April 13, 2005 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This story is still news. And Becerra, who got the most money by far and who coordinated the pardon effort, laughs all the way to the bank. Becerra and Villaraigosa are bad for L.A. They not only support drug dealers, they support illegals.

Villaraigosa is feeling the political pain now. Becerra is next.

April 13, 2005 5:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just heard on KPCC that Hahn has scheduled a press conference for Friday morning and there is speculation that Hahn may drop out.

This would be a terrible disservice to Los Angeles, but a blessing for CD 14 which will be rid of Villaraigosa.

Say it ain't so, Jimmy! Put up a fight against ADV!

April 13, 2005 5:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That speculation came from "Dr." Fernando Guerra -- and he's a homer for his homie Antonio. Doubt it is true.

April 13, 2005 5:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Baloney, Hahn's press conference is NOT about his withdrawal.

Hahn and the City Attorney are announcing a MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH in the Fleishman case. Hahn helped bust a former Fleishman VP who was responsible for the overbilling before the indicted VP got there.

Rocky and Hahn uncovered documents showing an attempt by Fleishman to deceive them. Hahn is clean. He didn't know the city was being billed for the "free" PR work Fleishman did for him.

April 13, 2005 6:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally someone calls it right. Hahn IS clean. He had no knowledge of the overbilling, or the moneylaundering, or of Abrams' activities. He is a decent guy who is getting blamed for the actions of others. He was not aware of the Acevedo loan. Or the O'Donnell contributions.

What politician do you know that keeps track of things like this? OK, maybe ADV does, but that's because he tracks who he owes.

April 13, 2005 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"...a blessing for CD 14 which will be rid of Villaraigosa."

This is another one of those lame attempts to spin the "hey CD14, at least you can get a new councilmember now" drivel that ADV-lovers have pressed into service when they can't prove he's done anything good for the Eastside in two years.

That's the political equivalent of finding out the local priest that's been molesting the kids in the parish is being "moved" to another parish somewhere, without punishment, and thinking "OH, good, now he'll abuse OTHER people's children."

So, CD14 should feel good that ADV may soon be going to neglect and ignore the needs of the ENTIRE city? Man you people really are warped.

That kind of misery don't love company (especially when they'll STILL be in his expended "parish of broken promises.")

April 13, 2005 8:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A few months down the road, when Jim Hahn is the "Richard Jewel" of L.A. politics, and Villaraigosa is still playing ceremonial CM in District 14, people who voted for ADV are going to start asking... why was it we thought we needed to ditch Hahn anyway?

April 13, 2005 10:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How BAD does it Hert? HA HA!

Even 50 feet tall, Bobzilla can't get NO respect. ADV's Website SPELLS HIS NAME WRONG ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT of Bob H.'s endorsement, says:

"Hertberg on Board"

(This is your "next" Mayor's STAFF, you wish, ADV-lovers!!!!)

P.S. Check with NC gadfly Daniel Wiseman, I think that means ADV's people are ANTI-SEMITIC, since SAYING Villaraigosa's name wrong is RACIST (he says...)


April 14, 2005 12:55 PM  

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