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Wednesday, April 13, 2005

Stem Cell Debate Continues

In today's Daily News and LA Times (slow pokes) they finally report on an issue we've known for quite some time (hours not days) that Los Angeles is not in the final four.

Daily News:

SACRAMENTO -- In a blow to the city's prestige and economy, Los Angeles' last-minute bid to become home to the state's new $3 billion stem cell research agency failed to meet two minimum requirements Tuesday as four other cities made the short list of finalists....

"The bid was supposed to be complete when it was turned in," said Walter Barnes, acting chief administrative officer of the institute. "The fact they did not provide anything on these minimum requirements is all (the chances) they get...."

Jack Kyser, chief economist of the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp., called the failure a blow to Los Angeles' efforts to promote itself as a biomedicine rival to the Bay Area.
"There would have been a tremendous amount of prestige, but also it would have made people recognize that L.A. is a player in biomedicine," Kyser said. "We have a huge base, but we don't have the recognition. It's the Bay Area, it's Orange County, it's San Diego that are the players in biomed. Yet you have so much research being done around the (L.A.) area..."



Los Angeles Times:

Los Angeles failed to make the short list of cities vying to land California's $3-billion stem cell institute Tuesday, after state officials said the city did not complete the proper paperwork...
Shannon Murphy, Hahn's spokeswoman, said city officials had been in contact with the state's Department of Governmental Services, which oversaw the bids, and had tried unsuccessfully to clear up the points in contention.In particular, she said city officials had complied with the requirement for an irrevocable lease offer. A City Council resolution that was passed prior to the bid should have been enough, she said."We provided clarifying information to the state, and it's unfortunate that the state doesn't see it our way," she said.Matt Bender, spokesman for the Department of Governmental Services, said in response: "The staff report speaks for itself."

In my previous posting my source was incorrect on one of the finalist cities - I listed San Jose instead of Sacramento.

LA Voice claims i was wrong on the reason Los Angeles didn't get into the finals.

"UPDATE 2: Chief Parker did indeed get the short list wrong, and got the cause wrong: L.A. apparently failed to make the correct offer of facilities, rather than failing to fill out the application correctly."

I wrote that we filled out the application wrong.

The Los Angeles Times reports we "did not complete the proper paperwork."

Same thing!

Not filling out the "proper" paperwork is wrong.

You got me on the listing the wrong cities - but blasting holes in what i post hopefully doesn't become a new sport for you Mack.

Cause the Chief doesn't lose.








38 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nothing is essentially changed. However you cut it, Jimmy's sophomorioc staff just plain dropped the ball.

Someone should have been on top of the bid and checking it backwards and forwards, but it is hard to do anything when you are in a bunker mentality.

Well, at least one staffer will be leaving early.

April 13, 2005 2:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How could we ever expect Jimmy's staff to get it right? They only had six weeks to read the MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS and comply with them.

Despite the spin, this is a severe blow to Eli's plans for a Biomedical Center in, guess where, CD 14ers?

Jobs aplenty for you and your pals.

No way to blame this one on Antonio. This is all Jimmy's fault.


Los Angeles Daily News


Stem cell bid bungled
L.A.'s last-minute offer to host institute ruled incomplete


By Harrison Sheppard and Brent Hopkins
Staff Writers


Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - SACRAMENTO -- In a blow to the city's prestige and economy, Los Angeles' last-minute bid to become home to the state's new $3 billion stem cell research agency failed to meet two minimum requirements Tuesday as four other cities made the short list of finalists.

San Francisco, San Diego, Emeryville and Sacramento were selected by the staff of the site-search committee for the location of the new California Institute for Regenerative Medicine, which will award grants and oversee the state's unique stem cell research program approved by voters last year. The committee will take up the recommendation today.

Bid evaluators said Los Angeles failed to meet at least two minimum requirements: Failing to propose a site with office space on a maximum of two floors with an internal stairway connecting them and full handicapped-access compliance, and failing to submit an irrevocable offer with the bid.

"The bid was supposed to be complete when it was turned in," said Walter Barnes, acting chief administrative officer of the institute. "The fact they did not provide anything on these minimum requirements is all (the chances) they get."

Mayor James Hahn put together Los Angeles' bid with his political ally, billionaire Eli Broad, and submitted it just hours before the deadline last month. The bid included the free use of 17,000 square feet of office space at City National Plaza -- formerly Arco Plaza -- as well as occasional free use of a corporate jet, $1 million in foundation grant funds and free access to the Los Angeles Convention Center.

In addition to Los Angeles, the institute disqualified Long Beach and four other bidders for failure to meet minimum requirements.

The city's failure to even make the list of finalists for a project that could bring prestige and expanded investment in biotechnology to Los Angeles prompted sharp criticism from the business community and from Hahn's challenger in the May 17 mayoral runoff election, Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa.

Jack Kyser, chief economist of the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp., called the failure a blow to Los Angeles' efforts to promote itself as a biomedicine rival to the Bay Area.

"There would have been a tremendous amount of prestige, but also it would have made people recognize that L.A. is a player in biomedicine," Kyser said. "We have a huge base, but we don't have the recognition. It's the Bay Area, it's Orange County, it's San Diego that are the players in biomed. Yet you have so much research being done around the (L.A.) area."

Late planning While some other cities also submitted bids on the last day, March 16, Kyser said Los Angeles started planning late and needed to have worked more quickly to put together its package.

"They probably should have gotten it in sooner," Kyser said. "You can't just make a last-minute pursuit. Sense the opportunity, determine who the competition might be and what they might be offering and then make your bid."

Villaraigosa accused the mayor of botching the city's bid.

"This is yet another failure by Jim Hahn and his administration," Villaraigosa's campaign manager, Ace Smith, said in a written statement. "Because of Hahn's blunder, Los Angeles is now out of the running for this very important award and lost an opportunity to be a leader in stem cell research."

Hahn spokeswoman Shannon Murphy said the mayor was disappointed in the decision but believes it revolved around costs as much as any other factor -- a statement that was challenged by Barnes, head of the institute.

"The value of real estate and a four-year lease in Los Angeles is probably worth what a 10-year lease in Sacramento would be," Murphy said. "And the fact is, Los Angeles will not be left out of the work on this. Los Angeles has produced more than 150 spinoff companies in the area of biotechnology. Los Angeles is the incubator for this industry in the country. We believe Los Angeles will not be left behind in this research."

In fact, the top-ranking bidder was San Francisco, where the cost of living is at least as high as Los Angeles. That city received 158 out of a possible 200 points, followed by Sacramento with 133 points, San Diego with 116 points and Emeryville, where the CIRM's temporary headquarters are now located, at 113 points.

The direct economic blow is minimal, as the headquarters will only have about 50 administrative employees, plus provide ancillary economic benefits to firms that would service the agency, such as accountants, lawyers and public affairs companies.

But cities from throughout the state were eager to claim the new center as their home, hoping to boost their biomedical industries. Several cities put together aggressive incentive packages with free office space and other perks. The center itself will be an administrative agency, not a research facility. It will issue grants to companies throughout the state to conduct stem cell research.

The bulk of the economic benefit from the stem cell bond will come in the form of grants awarded by the agency, Kyser said, and Los Angeles companies should still have good opportunities to apply for those funds.

But having the agency in Southern California might have given those companies a hometown edge, he said, as well as attracting more companies to the region and making the general public aware that there is a significant biomed presence in Southern California.

Firms and research institutions in the biomedical field employ about 25,000 people in Los Angeles County and 185,000 statewide, Kyser said. By comparison, similar employment in San Francisco County is only 5,300 and 14,800 in neighboring San Mateo County.

Eager to cash in on stem cell bond funds, local universities have been beefing up their facilities to handle the research.

USC, UCLA projects In February, the University of Southern California announced plans to anchor a 100-acre biotech park surrounded by a 1,207-acre redevelopment zone under city and county authority.

A month later, UCLA announced the creation of the Institute of Stem Cell Biology and Medicine. Judith Gasson, the institute's co-director, said the city's failure to win the headquarters bid would not hamper UCLA's research efforts.

"It would have been great for Los Angeles, but I think the impact will be very minor," Gasson said. "I think the most important thing will be the actual research. That'll be conducted throughout California at academic institutions, including UCLA, regardless of where the headquarters is."

Business groups and the Mayor's Office began collaborating on the proposal six weeks ago, banging out the offer in 30 days.

Bruce Ackerman, president and chief executive officer of the Economic Alliance of the San Fernando Valley, who helped craft the offer, said the group knew it was a long shot but still believes it was competitive.

"That's not good news -- left out and left behind once again," he sighed. "We had a really decent proposal, complete with a landlord willing to throw in some space."

He dismissed accusations that the group had bungled the offer, saying Los Angeles lacked the tight business-university cluster found in San Diego and the Bay Area.

"As one of the people involved in it, I don't think we screwed up."

Staff Writers Rick Orlov and Gregory J. Wilcox contributed to this report.

Harrison Sheppard, (916) 446-6723 harrison.sheppard@dailynews.com

April 13, 2005 7:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LAT..Boland criticized Villaraigosa for voting against bills to increase penalties for gang crimes, allow judges to require gang members convicted of crimes to register with local law enforcement, allow the seizure of assets from gang members convicted of crimes, and increase the penalty for those convicted of child abuse resulting in death.

Antonio’s 10 point plan when he took office to reduce crime. He hasn't completed not one of them.
1. Interagency cooperation.
2. Expand police presence in parks.
3. Work with schools.
4. Early intervention.
5. Target graffiti.
6. Hire more police officers.
7. Expand real community-based policing.
8. Protect witnesses.
9. Train officers to prevent conflict.
10. Tougher gun laws.

April 13, 2005 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks CD 14ers. You guys never disappoint.

Leave it to you to try to morph a complete failure by Hahn into a critique of Antonio.

Is it any wonder you are so ineffective in fighting him in the district? You've got him down to only 85% of his own district!

Good work, keep it up...

April 13, 2005 8:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The "Congressional Report" is a full investigation of the facts behind Bill Clinton's @144 pardons.

Antonio is mentioned twice in minor places, with no guilt associated with his actions.

Pin your hopes on some other donkey's butt.

April 13, 2005 8:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Re-read it. Antonio is mentioned more then twice and it nails him on the letter he wrote. Oh and let's not forget that tape of him on Channel 4 denying to Laurel Erickson.

Chief Parker I remember MEAT posting something about Antonio doing something really big on this stem cell subject. It was a couple of months ago. How can we bring up that post again? There's no doubt it was from MEAT and he said Antonio was going to announce a big plan to bring the stem cell here to LA. I'll try and find in archive.

April 13, 2005 8:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does anyone know which deputy mayor led the effort to get this Biomed Center? Who ever it is should be fired right away for not reading the documents and following basic instructions!

My guess would be that this was handled by Doane Liu...but then again, it could have been almost any of those inept deputy mayors.

April 13, 2005 8:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

San Francisco has always been known to be the place where the stem cell headquarters will be situated. Los Angeles never had a chance - but still, the mayor's people should have done a better job.

Tony Villa didn't do anything to bringg biomed to Los Angeles - it simply doesn't work that way. You have to "home grow" it. Amgen, nor any large biotech company, will ever leave Thousand Oaks, Emeryville or wherever, for the city of Los Angeles.

And talking of Eli Broad's plans. Really that wasn't about biotech but property development. Eli and Ed Roski making tons of money off development. Again, folks, a lot of people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to biotech and the city of Los Angeles.

April 13, 2005 9:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The thought that Antonio is mentioned at all in the report in a negative light is a disgrace in itself. If I was a politician, I would not want my name AT ALL in the report linked to any Vignali or such type of person. Why has the Villaraigosa camp not posted information for an East Los Angeles rally? There is a problem with this election, there are two liberals on board for the race of Mayor. As somone said earlier about picking from two poisons, it is shameful that we cannot produce better candidates then these two. One has a staff full of socialistic propaganda minded individuals, and the other is in political turmoil. I have to pick one of these two? I do not think people want CHAOS in Los Angeles/Valley by choosing Villaraigosa...I foresee racial tensions. The Villaraigosa team is ready to initiate their real agenda in office and that is having Los Angeles/Valley be the leading Communist Hub of the nation.

April 13, 2005 9:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bill Handel (Handle?), the morning drive time host on the largest talk station in L.A., was only the first to really go hard out against ADV this a.m. on his show, putting the scare into his middle-of-the-road listeners.

More to follow, for sure:

McIntyre
Prager
Rantel
Elder
possibly even Ingraham, who keeps an eye on L.A.

. . . and yes, even Hahn-baiting John & Ken, when push comes to shove, will tear into ADV on-air.

This is what the phony baloney poll numbers have brought down on ADV's head only half-way down the runoff stretch -- a half-dozen drive-time talk jocks with more listeners than any of his recent endorsers have constituents, blasting him day after and he can't show his "face" on their shows out of cowardice and rabidly indefensible socialist policies.

Hahn's "stupid" campaign people couldn't have planned it better, or paid enough to get this happening to Antonio in the final stretch.

Yeah, 5 weeks is a LONG time -- about 25 days and 60-80 potential hours of Antonio bashing by the predominantly libertarian and Republican airwave mega-voices, in a city where nearly EVER voter has to be in their car sometime during these hours.

Oh well, there's always that junior league 50-watter for Antonio that runs Air America(are they even broadcasting this month, or not?), or KPFK to bail him out.

April 13, 2005 9:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

YEAH, you "scooped" the Times... they waited to get the story correct -- shame on them.

April 13, 2005 9:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Night owl at 2:45 a.m., I'll bet there are some people on Hahn's staff who can spell sophomoric correctly?

April 13, 2005 10:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good for Bill Handel to be on board telling it like it is. Illegals will coming in droves to LA if AV wins. He also stated that the blacks are more racist then anyone if the only reason they're voting for AV is because Hahn got rid of Parks. LAPD will leave in great numbers if AV wins. They know AV made a pact w/the devil Parks to get rid of 3-12. You'll have cocaine addict and hooker lover Mike Hernandez, corrupt Richard Alatorre, corrupt Parks, all the Latino MECHA idiots runnnig city hall. Good-bye LA

April 13, 2005 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I work and live in the CD 14 and as a community worker, not everyone knew or knows Villaraigosa. This is a myth that is put out by the Villaraigosa staff. The fantasy that everyone knows Villaraigosa is questionable because I deal with community residents daily. I ask if they will vote and majority have NEVER seen Villaraigosa in the neighborhood. Just out of curiosity, I ask if they know there are neighborhood councils he has implemented, they ask where these places are because they do not know of them. These are residents of CD 14 who are not your stereotype which Villaraigosa staff likes to label. These are a diverse group of residents from economic to ethnic diversity. The neighborhood council meetings are implanted with anarchists that support Villaraigosa, just go to one of them. You will have some that refuse to pledge the allegiance, denounce America, and others that hold positions that are illegal in this country. These are the neighborhood councils Villaraigosa "claims" to have implemented, the councils consist of his staff (social propaganda) and people is his circle. Go and question their proposals, make a an opinion, and disagree in the meeting. You will be ousted faster than you can say, "Villaraigosa is a...liar."

April 13, 2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The thought that Antonio is mentioned at all in the report in a negative light is a disgrace in itself. If I was a politician, I would not want my name AT ALL in the report linked to any Vignali or such type of person. Why has the Villaraigosa camp not posted information for an East Los Angeles rally? There is a problem with this election, there are two liberals on board for the race of Mayor. As somone said earlier about picking from two poisons, it is shameful that we cannot produce better candidates then these two. One has a staff full of socialistic propaganda minded individuals, and the other is in political turmoil. I have to pick one of these two? I do not think people want CHAOS in Los Angeles/Valley by choosing Villaraigosa...I foresee racial tensions. The Villaraigosa team is ready to initiate their real agenda in office and that is having Los Angeles/Valley be the leading Communist Hub of the nation.

April 13, 2005 10:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Instead of blasting Antonio, maybe Hahn can explain how LA, with two major research medical centers, (UCLA and USC) didn't meet minimum requirements.

Screw a damn letter for a drug dealer. LA's missed an opportunity to get the early start at becoming THE biomedical capitol. That means another missed opportunity at expanding the local economy and creating the next generation of jobs.

April 13, 2005 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which deputy mayor was is charge of the bid? Someone else asked this earlier and no one responded

April 13, 2005 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous poster lets get it right. Antonio didn't implement ANY Neighborhood Councils. Boyle Heights NC has many more Hahn supporters then AV. He hasn't been to a NC in 2 yrs. LA32 is the NC that is full of AV supporters who do everything illegally and got nailed by city attorney. AV hasn't been to their meetings as well. You're right on the CD14 residents. They don't see AV because like these past couple of days he's back EAST raising money. He's an out of touch CM who only accomplishment is community sweeps.

How about Larry Elder. He supported Hahn booting Parks. I'm sure he can be added to that conservative list of drive time radio talk show hosts.

April 13, 2005 10:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And you lovesick bloggers think ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA is going to be able to help bring business and high prestige jobs into L.A. What a HOOT!

This guy has more boarded up buildings and empty lots in his district than EVER before.

Two of the spaces he leased for campaign offices in 2003 are STILL empty and boarded up and haven't seen a tenant since he took office.

One local chamber of commerce closed its doors.

PLUS, you think he'll bring COMPETENT staff? From WHERE? Hahn's people look like rocket scientists compared to ADV dim-witted out-of-towners.

Double-Hoot.

(Here's why is MATTERS what goes on in his district, bozos. It WON'T get better when these people run bigger, more expensive project for the WHOLE CITY. It can ONLY get worse!!!!

April 13, 2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV staffers at CD level - answer to problems they don't understand, can't figure out. "Call 3-1-1"

ADV staffers at Mayor's level - answer to problems they can't figure out. "Call . . ."



Um. . .

Can you hold the line a minute. . .

JIMMMMMMY!


Thanks for holding.

"Call Ghostbusters!"

April 13, 2005 10:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Anonynmous individual who posted at:
7:11 AM, April 13, 2005

"Despite the spin, this is a severe blow to Eli's plans for a Biomedical Center in, guess where, CD 14ers?"

If this is such an important issue to the Villaraigosa Campaign and it's socialist staffers, then where was our councilman for CD14 "Villaraigosa" during this important situation of getting a Biomedical Center in Los Angeles. If he cared so much about it and is lashing out at Hahn, tell me, what did he do? Apparently, nothing. He did nothing because if he had the pool he says he does in politics he would have networked so hard, with so much ENERGY, HOURS, and tried to make this thing happen for Los Angeles. Instead this politician sacrificed the future of Los Angeles by doing nothing to help it's residents prosper through the jobs it could have brought in. Villaraigosa and communist camp is only out to point fingers, but it would have been an opportunity for him to show us that he could be mayor and do the job, on the contrary he did nothing! As he has been doing nothing for the the promises he made to many residents he stepped on for his selfish goal.

April 13, 2005 10:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NO shit, people, if you think Hahn's people are incompetent, BOY have you go an early a.m., nasty, shrill alarm clock (that can't be shut off) wake-up call coming.

(And that's AFTER the 12-18 months it takes them to supposedly "learn the new job!")

CD14 would like the city of L.A. to meet David Spade's bastard sister. . .

Lisa SarNO! NO! NO! NO! NO! (And she's one of the smarter ones!)

They not only won't get the applications processed correctly, or on time, they'll mail them to thw wrong addresses, with insufficient postage, and yell and the mailman and tell him it's all HIS fault (like they do to the constituents).

I hope some of you know ADV's campaign staff PERSONALLY - or have LOTS of money to give to his next (or next, or next) campaign funds, because your ain't gonna get ANYTHING done without connections or the proper "tribute" being paid.

April 13, 2005 10:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Welcome to Mayor Villar's office...

TIPS WELCOMED (and encouraged)

April 13, 2005 10:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why wasn't Villaraigosa and his socialist staff fighting for this Biomedical Center? They want the city to prosper, so where was he on this issue when it arose? I'm sure he knew about it because he and his staff are sure using it as a political weapon. Did he know and do nothing for political election ammunition. This was probably not as important as meeting Magic Johnson after having 5 cups of some caffeine beverage :)

April 13, 2005 10:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dateline: AV Headquarters

In a release this morning AV vowed as your new Mayor - I guarantee that I will bring the level of expertise in the Mayors office at the very least up to that of Emeryville, California. The Emeryville horror will not reoccur while I'm Mayor. I will go as far as to pledge, if necessary, I'll send recruiters into the wilds of the San Joaquin Valley to find competent staff.

April 13, 2005 11:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

RE: Dateline: AV Headquarters

"The Emeryville horror will not reoccur while I'm Mayor"

Does this mean he wants us to settle for his Immigration Horror instead? Or maybe Socialistic Horror, Communist Horror, Flip Flopping Horror, or just plain across the board TOTAL INCOMPETENT HORROR?


RE:
"if necessary, I'll send recruiters into the wilds of the San Joaquin Valley to find competent staff."

Is he going to fire all of his socialistic propaganda staff, I feel for his staff, they must be like chickens without a head trying to now compete with real professionals.

April 13, 2005 11:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV isn't going to let ANYTHING good happen in the city while Hahn is still mayor, even if he could help it along. This is the level of civic assasination they'll stoop too -- look at the police sales tax issue, just one example. Even if needed urgently, NOTHING that Hahn could possibly claim as a positive will escape ADV's protest.

Like he told the Southwest Museum coalition, "I can fix this (better) in a few months, when I'm mayor -- (please ignore the fact that I could have ALREADY fixed it a year ago as CM, but then you might now have voted for me for MAYOR.

Every 4 years, the same crap, 12-18 months of stagnation so the OTHER guy can't get credit for anything good.

April 13, 2005 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You are obviously a Hahn whore. Along with the rest of the Hahn whores that refuse to take responsibilty for their consistent stream of screw ups and continue to whore for an incompetant and/or dishonest Mayor to preserve their own ability to whore.

April 13, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good point made! Anon 11:50 AM

This is Villaraigosa. He is willing to sacrifice something good for the mass for his only political greed. Horrific greed that is engraved in him so far that nothing is going to happen while Hahn is there if he can prevent it. If he has this high profile political network, then maybe he jinxed the deal. And if he didn't then why didn't he do something for once for the benefit of ALL not just one ethnic race.

April 13, 2005 11:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For 11:53 a.m. --
You are obviously a VILLARAIGOSA whore. Along with the rest of the VILLARAIGOSA whores that refuse to take responsibilty for their consistent stream of screw ups and continue to whore for an incompetant AND dishonest COUNCILMEMBER to preserve their own ability to whore (although "pimp" Tony IS known to treat his HOs better - but not keep them around longer).

(It's not really funny, but this is EXACTLY like that kids game -- "Hahn is rubber, Villaraigosa is glue." Every bad thing you can say about Hahn (mostly without proof), ADV has been, is, and will be worse at and about -- and his ARE proven failures. His people have stopped trying to pretend he did anything on City Council for two years, because people in the district keep asking, "When, where?" (And there's never any proof).

April 13, 2005 12:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THAT must be why Antonio keeps saying he'll create more new jobs in L.A. -- just by playing musical chairs with his own political offices - because he SHURE hasn't done anything about business development of better biz climate in his own district.

April 13, 2005 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good ideas on this blog, some worth stealing.

Problem is, Jimmy's kids can't seem to read, so the ideas do them no good.

Kam is spun out these days, so he has no time to read others' spin.

Time to just chill while the Yawn Campaign freezes.

April 13, 2005 2:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I still have not figured out who was in charge of the bid. Does anyone know?

April 13, 2005 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's talk businesses. In Antonio's Boyle Heights businesses that have been ther over 20 yrs are losing and going under cause his little butt hasn't done anything to help them with the MTA and all the construction. If he can't help his own district you really think he will do anything citywide? WRONG. ADV lovers just accept the fact that all Antonio can do is make his community pick up brooms and sweep. Pretty soon we will have the Minute Men Project here in LA going after all the illegal immigrants that are already packing to come to LA. You think your taxes are being wasted on healthcare, schools, benefits etc. LA will be bankrupt with Antonio as Mayor.

April 13, 2005 3:28 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Don't expect talkradio to bail Poopy out. Don't get me wrong, I love Al Rantel, Doug McIntyre and even Larry Elder. But they couldn't get Walter Moore more than 10K votes. Most of their folks will probably stay home.

The rest of the people who are voting are not listening to those guys- they're listening to Star, KOST, KBIG, Big Boy, Jamie & Danny, etc.

John and Ken couldn't even make a respectable dent in that moron David Dreier's vote. Talk radio doesn't have a big audience, it has a good audience. An audience of rich, old white guys who buy the Ford trucks, plumbing services and drunk driving attorney services these stations advertise. And even then, a lot of their listeners come from outside the City.

April 13, 2005 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What demographics are you looking at "rich old white guys who buy Ford trucks?"

(That was a joke, right -- you don't really think that's who buys Ford trucks? Flip the stations through the Spanish-language stations on cable next Saturday a.m., and see who all the trucks are being marketed to -- the one's being announced by pretty young Latinas in short skirts and high heels).

And you don't really believe that's what "rich white guys" drive around L.A. in?

Anytime J & K talk illegal immigration, every third caller in is a 2nd or 3rd generation Latino saying, "yeah we've got to do something about this."

April 13, 2005 8:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam's back -- finally talked Hertzberg into endorsing ADV on your "secret mission" huh?

April 13, 2005 8:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Cause the Chief doesn't lose."

Except perhaps his mind? Alzheimers setting in -- forgotten the primary, and who you backed there already?

April 13, 2005 10:10 PM  

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