More Frames than a Picture Show
Today Jim Hahn released his 4th political frame on Tony Villar.
Here are the previous frames he has released.
1. Sacramento politician.
2. Flip-Flopper
3. Results vs rhetoric
And today the new frame -- change vs status quo.
Tony Villar has stuck to one frame -- "we can't afford 4 more years of FBI probes and corruption charges -- we need a fresh start."
Mr Hahn -- is Tony a Sacramento politician that flips-flops, but who is all rhetoric while standing up for the status quo?
I know i am an old retired police chief, but even i know politics 101.
Here are the previous frames he has released.
1. Sacramento politician.
2. Flip-Flopper
3. Results vs rhetoric
And today the new frame -- change vs status quo.
Tony Villar has stuck to one frame -- "we can't afford 4 more years of FBI probes and corruption charges -- we need a fresh start."
Mr Hahn -- is Tony a Sacramento politician that flips-flops, but who is all rhetoric while standing up for the status quo?
I know i am an old retired police chief, but even i know politics 101.
Posted by Anonymous @ 4/26/2005 11:01:00 PM
39 Comments:
All of the above -- PLUS, Antonio Villaraigosa is a pathological liar who can't be trusted to do anything he says he'll do.
Someone prove me wrong.
End of story!
No logic in the original post, at all. If you lie and promise things you never intend to deliver (and can't in many cases), then you can be ALL things to everyone.
That has BEEN the status quo for most rabid leftist pols. Promise to change things, raise more taxes, deliver less in the end (shorthand = socialism).
Take from the rich and middle class until EVERYONE's poor.
At least ADV has been consistent, since he KNOWS nothing can be proven and a lot of the "corruption" is just his one people dropping dimes to the media about "bogeymen" in city government.
Probes and charges is ALL he'll cop to, because he knows, like the scam he played on CD14 and Pacheco 2 years ago -- that if he wins (or even if he doesn't) it all goes away after the election.
No merit, no basis, nothing by frameups, exaggerations, and smoke-blowing by ADV - a politician who can ONLY win if he paints his opponent as "dirty" (to hide his OWN true, proven dirt).
SIX FULL MOMTHS OF THIS B.S. -- scroll back to the original archive of the MS blog.
Hahn's been "going to go down" for ages... indictments have been "coming down" for months. More names of HIGH Hahn administration officials were about to be logged on the police blotter. No proof, nothing close to it, and no one has even come close to showing Hahn is corrupt or anything close to it.
And Hahn continues to put the challenge out there. Prove I had anything to do with it, and I'll take responsibility. Why is he at ease and calm about saying that? Because there's NOTHING THERE.
Even a career criminal doesn't CHALLENGE like that, because they ALWAYS have doubts that they covered everything up. But there's nothing for Hahn to cover up.
Face it ADV-lovers, your whole campaign has been based on "he's dirty" -- and it turns out HE'S CLEAN. To bad ADV and his people didn't expend half as much effort in convincing people ADV was competent -- but there too, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE.
It will be easier to convict Hahn of corruption without ever finding a shred of evidence, that to "convict" ADV of being an effective public servant.
It's ALL a scam, Mayor Sam. Or is it MAYOR SCAM?
Hey Chief:
I understand that you are using Chief Parker as your handle but it really isn't funny when you and Mayor Sam pretend to actually BE these people.
Use the names but don't try to be these dead guys, you look like idiots.
Blog away, dumB dumBs.
Someone bashing away on the previous thread about how there's NO proof there's an ADV recall.
Well in six months Mayor Sam's blog has been claiming Hahn is corrupt, there's been more REAL proof there's a recall on Villaraigosa, than any any guilt for Hahn.
Chief:
They're all part of one theme: You can't trust Antonio Villaraigosa.
Look at 2001 and get a clue.
Thank you Chief Parker and Mayor Sam. You are proving to us anti-ADV people that ADV team is in deep trouble. The fact that you are now constantly changing the threads but still getting the negative hits tells me either Antonio threaten the hell out of you guys or you're being paid.
HAHN ISSUES: Public Safety,(brought back community policing and the Senior Lead program) works with 85 neighborhood councils and gave representation on commission boards, Neighborhood block program on the Eastside alone $1 million, graffiti removal program Operation Clean Sweep, Affordable housing, after school programs, gang reduction prorgrams, LAX expansion, etc.etc.
Antonio: In 2 yrs making the community sweep the sidewalks
DESPERATION IF ADV HAS TO BRING IN KERRY. This should be a great sign for Hahn. Hey, where did those protesters go?
LAT....sources familiar with Villaraigosa's campaign said Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic candidate for president last year, would be in Los Angeles on Saturday.
Mr. Villaraigosa has had two years on the City Council. He's failed to show any leadership on any issue, let alone education
Hahn is acting like Kerry, a new issue or slam every day. Can't stay on message. Dan Lungren did the same thing to give it to Gray.
AV has stayed on message,unlike Kerry.
Speaking of Kerry, the loser will be in LA. later in the week. He will doubtless endorse AV. This is a two headed monster.
It does show AV as a person able to attract National attention; it will turn off Republicans who are 22% of the votes and who intensly dislke Kerry. Worse, it may encourage them to vote to oppose Av.
This dead consultant's advice to AV is take a pass; you are far enough ahead to not take the risk.
Every newspaper has reported ADV doesn't have a plan or message. Intersting that on ADV's absentee ballots he sent out he doesn't list his 80 neighborhood watches as an accomplishment just the community clean ups. Wonder why? Of course he lists his assembly stuff from way back when. Why doesn't he list his councilman accomplishments? He doesn't have any.
Kerry endorsing ADV will show just how liberal he really is. Agreed poster it will definitely turn off Republicans especially in the Valley.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005
Why did Floridians give $179,000 to Villaraigosa?
Employees of hotel gift shop operator -- with ties to concessions at LAX -- come up with $41,000 for a candidate who has questioned Mayor James Hahn's fund-raising.
By David Zahniser
Copley News Service
Los Angeles politics might seem a world away for William Pineda, a business license sales analyst who lives in Plantation, Fla.
But Pineda and 18 of his colleagues at Travel Traders, a Miami-based company that operates hotel gift shops, are playing a key role in Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa's campaign for mayor.
Villaraigosa received $179,000 from Florida contributors as of April 5, the end of the city's most recent financial reporting period, with one of every six dollars coming from individuals affiliated with Travel Traders. Yet some of those contributors had difficulty explaining, or simply refused to say, why they gave $1,000 or more to a mayoral campaign 3,000 miles away.
Out of 10 Travel Traders employees contacted by Copley News Service, three spoke openly about their contributions to Villaraigosa. Four did not return calls, and one hung up when asked about his donation.
Another employee voiced confusion about how she was identified in campaign statements. And Pineda simply drew a blank when asked about Villaraigosa and his involvement in the Los Angeles mayoral election.
"Are you sure you got the right number?" he asked.
Told that Los Angeles City Hall campaign records show that he gave Villaraigosa $1,000 on April 1, Pineda responded: "Wow. You probably called me at a bad time."
"Let me finish typing up my e-mail and then I'll get back to answering your question," said Pineda, who put the call on hold and did not return, despite a 20-minute wait. He did not respond to follow-up calls.
Although city law allows individual contributors to give up to $1,000 to a candidate in the primary and $1,000 in the runoff election, they cannot be reimbursed by their company afterward. Such a practice would exceed contribution limits and is considered campaign money laundering.
However, even assuming the contributions from the Travel Traders employees were properly given, such a large number of donations from the same out-of-state business entity should raise red flags, said Robert Stern, executive director of the Center For Governmental Studies, whose group tracks campaign finance issues.
"These are people 3,000 miles away who are ... not executives of the company and are giving the maximum amount," Stern said. "And the most important question in my mind is, what does this company want in L.A.? What do they want from the Mayor's Office?"
Campaign fund raising has become a central issue in Villaraigosa's bid to unseat Mayor James Hahn, with the councilman repeatedly pointing to state and federal grand jury investigations into city contracting. Those probes are focused, in part, on whether contracts were awarded by Hahn's administration in exchange for campaign donations.
Yet Hahn campaign adviser Kam Kuwata accused Villaraigosa of having his own pattern of helping campaign contributors.
"If I wrote a $1,000 check, I would know, I would remember," Kuwata said. "I would venture a guess that 99.99 percent of the people, if they wrote a $1,000 check, they would remember, too."
Villaraigosa campaign spokesman Ace Smith had no information either on Travel Traders or a related company, S.E. Florida Investments, but argued that there is nothing improper about out-of-state donations. Furthermore, he argued, it is not unusual that contributors would want to remain close-mouthed about their political activities.
"I think private individuals are allowed to have a sense of privacy," he said. "I don't think there's any law against that."
Neither the president nor the general manager of Travel Traders returned calls seeking comment about the contributions, which came from all levels of the company, from top executives to a help-desk manager. In total, Villaraigosa received $41,000 from donors affiliated with Travel Traders or S.E. Florida Investments.
Many of those who gave as employees of Travel Traders also donated as workers for S.E. Florida Investments. For example, Travel Traders executive assistant Lisa Edouard gave Villaraigosa $1,000 on April 1, while she gave a second $1,000 contribution on Sept. 28, during the primary campaign.
City records identify Edouard in connection with the latter contribution as a human resources director for S.E. Florida Investments. Asked about that company on Tuesday, she said in a brief telephone interview that she had never heard of it.
"I'm not familiar with that name," she said. "That's not Travel Traders."
Moments later, Edouard told a reporter to call her in 15 minutes. She never came to the telephone in subsequent calls.
Villaraigosa spokesman Nathan James could not explain the discrepancy but said the campaign makes every effort to obtain correct contributor information if it cannot be found on a check.
Travel Traders applications manager Curtis McGough hung up the phone after he was asked about his two $1,000 contributions to Villaraigosa. But three others were more open about their support.
Sales audit analyst Eddie Garcia, who left Los Angeles when he was 15 but still has family in the region, said he believes the councilman would be "a breath of fresh air" in Los Angeles. Garcia said he learned about the candidate during a meeting held by his company in September.
"It was kind of like a meeting about possible business in Los Angeles," said the 25-year-old analyst, who would not provide additional details. "I'm not sure if a fund-raiser is the right word."
Travel Traders database administrator Shelia Williams said she decided to give money after conducting research on the councilman and discovering that he was endorsed by Earvin "Magic" Johnson. Records show, however, that Williams gave her donation 10 days before Johnson announced his support.
Williams also said she shares the councilman's views, but refused to say what those views are.
"He's a family man," she said. "You know, diversity."
Travel Traders was previously owned by W.H. Smith, a London-based company that operated gift stores at Los Angeles International Airport. Two years ago, W.H. Smith sold its airport concessions to Travel Traders, which ran 280 hotel shops across the country at the time of the sale.
Officials with Los Angeles International Airport said they had not received any inquiries from Travel Traders on LAX concessions, which go up for bid next year.
Garcia said almost everybody in the company attended the meeting on Villaraigosa last fall. Still, he would not say what business opportunity the company expects to have in Los Angeles.
Sales audit manager Cesar Luzcando said he wanted the money to support a Latino candidate and a Democrat.
"Is the other one Hispanic? No," Luzcando said. "This guy is Hispanic. I like what he says, and I like the guy."
Luzcando gave $1,000 on April 1 as an employee of Travel Traders. Like several employees, he identified himself as a staffer for two companies, giving $1,000 to Villaraigosa this month as a Travel Traders employee and $1,000 as an employee of S.E. Florida Investments in September.
While he voiced support for Villaraigosa, Luzcando would not say how he learned of the councilman's mayoral bid.
"I don't need to explain why or how or what," said the sales audit manager, adding: "You have a great life and don't call me again."
Kuwata, the Hahn spokesman, said he expected that Villaraigosa will work to reward Travel Traders if he is elected mayor. Smith, however, voiced astonishment that Kuwata would level such a charge.
"Nothing illustrates the mind frame of Jim Hahn and his campaign more than that comment," he said.
"Because clearly that's the way they think about campaign contributions. We don't."
Hey Jimmy:
Better call your Airport Commission and tell then to reconsider their hurried up, jammed through, recent renewal of these contracts for Duty Free Shops. You pushed it through, and look how they are acting now.
Looks like they are sleeping around, took your renewal and turned around and started sleeping with Antonio.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Bet THAT'S never happened before. Or, has it?
Uh oh, another leak on the sleaze pipeline Parke. Isn't Florida a hotbed of drug activity and one of Vignali's major ports of entry. Richard Muruello, the ugy ripping off LAUSD on behalf of Tony and Huizar, isn't this Cuban from Florida?
"...These are people 3,000 miles away who are ... not executives of the company and are giving the maximum amount," Stern said. "And the most important question in my mind is, what does this company want in L.A.? What do they want from the Mayor's Office?"
Interesting...please read this part. The article is so well written, I choose not to paraphrase, so here is part of the original article, "Why did Floridians give $179,000 to Villaraigosa?"
"Many of those who gave as employees of Travel Traders also donated as workers for S.E. Florida Investments. For example, Travel Traders executive assistant Lisa Edouard gave Villaraigosa $1,000 on April 1, while she gave a second $1,000 contribution on Sept. 28, during the primary campaign.
City records identify Edouard in connection with the latter contribution as a human resources director for S.E. Florida Investments. Asked about that company on Tuesday, she said in a brief telephone interview that she had never heard of it.
"I'm not familiar with that name," she said. "That's not Travel Traders."
Moments later, Edouard told a reporter to call her in 15 minutes. She never came to the telephone in subsequent calls.
Villaraigosa spokesman Nathan James could not explain the discrepancy but said the campaign makes every effort to obtain correct contributor information if it cannot be found on a check."
****This smells of Vignali****
If nothing else, these out-of-towners think ADV's star is rising for something MORE than L.A. politics, and they want to get on his "good side" for down-the-line.
It's PAY FOR PLAY in advance, or PAY IT AHEAD.
Getting in on the ground floor of a presumed national pol, while he's still CHEAP!
THEY know he's not going to stay in L.A. long, either way... WHY CAN'T Angelenos see this!
What is happening here in this election is the Vignali case. Villaraigosa was told to write that letter and for his own reasons he did so. The Vignali case is like "opening a can of worms" and once you look further into it, the entire picture looks worse. I choose to no longer look into it, for the simple reason that it involves Villaraigosa lying consistently on what he knew and what he says he knows now about the entire case. Vignali Sr. was a major contributor to many Latino public officials and this hurts the communities. Ethics was thrown out the door by these people who wrote the Letters to Clinton. By researching Vignali and Villaraigosa, you open the next door to the democratic party, especially the Clintons, and the 400k that Hillary's brother took for pay (for unknown work), just like Av gets checks (for unknown work). You see, there is more to this, and then it gets crazy with AV twisting the story as to why he wrote the letter, if the Vignali story goes beyond what it is now, AV will be in big trouble with the Clintons and Vignali, I think he could care less about his political career if he pisses off Vignali Sr, that is the end of his entire career. It's ugly and it's up to you to research it yourself, keep in mind, it is going to make you upset at how the level of politics is played from National figures to local politicians. A national politician is coming to endorse AV, that is fine, but it's all about favors, money, corruption, and the big DRUGS. Who supplies drugs to certain politicians---? Who benefits from the pardons? Who benefits from writing the letters to Clinton on Vignali? Who is under political protection and why?
"PARDONS FOR SALE"
I laughed so hard when I got this e-mail from John Kerry. Antonio ignores his district to work for him and now he's coming back to repay the favor. The media will hit Antonio hard on the Florida money and embarrass him in front of Kerry.
Rallying around a stand-up guy like Antonio Villaraigosa is exactly the kind of thing you and I and other members of our johnkerry.com community should be doing. He keeps his promises, works hard, and gets things done. He's a leader with integrity. Thank you for your interest in joining John Kerry and Antonio Villaraigosa on Saturday, April 30th at 1:00 pm for a special event at the Los Angeles Valley College in Van Nuys. Space is limited, so please fill out the following form to reserve up to 4 seats for you and your family today. Tickets are free.
Special Event with John Kerry and Villaraigosa
Saturday April 30th 1p-2:30p
LA Valley College, 5800 Fulton Avenue
Instead of disrupting Tony's fake community meeting at CHARO, why not focus on the Kerry endorsement at L.A. Valley College. There will much more press there.
Again, another political endorsement from someone who doesn't really know Tony. Does Kerry know that he is about to embarrass himself? Well, he embarrassed himself last year, so I guess it's no big deal. Tony blew Kerry's election, so why shouldn't he return the favor.
to Anon 9:44 AM
If you, by your own account, you believe that AV is of the caliber to move on to a higher national office, why wouldn't Angelenos like me want him as our Mayor?
Why wouldn't we want the best - an "A" Team type of player? Is that not what the yahoos in TX wanted when they elected GW? Didn't they want to have someone who could forge ahead and be a national leader? I never heard anyone say, “I can’t vote for him cause then he’ll run for President”. Vote for someone on merits. We have someone like that in Antonio – we will make it happen! I’m voting for him for what he will do for us now –not what he may or may not run for in the future.
I for one want someone who can play with the "big boys". Let's stay on message - something Yahn can't do. The name of the game is endorsements and money to get your message out. Hey, Mayor Sam - how are we looking on that scorecard of yours?
-Mustang
Mustang,
Boy your rationale sums it all up for Tony Lovers/Truth Haters. The conserative base that GW developed in Texas actually accomplished something. Democrats were gerrymandered out of their seats, business taxes were ignored and people were put to death at a record pace. All promises that GW delivered on, whether you agree with them or not, and then he took his crusade to a bigger stage.
What has Tony accomplished? To promote someone just because they can schmooze with the big boys? Yeah, that's an excellent criteria to vote for someone. If this is truly the way you think, then you are the epitome of the ignorant, uneducated Latino voter. Keep posting, you're making an excellent case for Hahn.
Mustang,
I agree with you - excellent reasons for voting for a candidate. Where can I vote for Monica Lewinsky? Isn't Tony doing the same thing with the big boys?
Please, come one come all. For every AV hater that comes to the rally there is one less person that can reach out to voters and persuade them to vote for Yahn. In fact, let’s get the bus that is bringing in all the volunteers for AV’s walk through out the city to pick you up. You will be doing so much good to Yahn by being a bunch of obnoxious ranters and having your antics eclipse what every poorly scripted message Yahn he will be on that hour. When the camera takes the B-roll pan shot all they will see is a sea of volunteers yelling and screaming in support. No one can hear you on B-roll.
Bring it on!
-Mustang
KERRY coming to town... kiss away ANY GOP votes Tony thought he was getting and add TWICE as many "I'll sit this one out" moderates and conservatives into Hahn's column.
Like the red-staters kept saying after 11/04. You boys JUST don't get it.
What a bunch of nancy-boys!
"Help us defend Antonio from Jim Hahn's desperate attacks -- please contribute today!" -- screams P. Skeleton every other day in urgent fundraising appeals.
ADV CAN'T defend his own record, won't use FREE media like radio and TV because "they ask tough questions" and wants his lovesick supporters (who've paid nearly $10 million to get him 24 LACKLUSTER months - sez' L.A.Times - in city office so far) to keep ponying up, because other leaders are being "mean" to him. If this isn't a CULT of hero worship, then nothing is... when the money just KEEPS pooring in, despite the fact he's done nothing for two years, the "faithful" can't express in logical terms why they support him, and he runs both ON and FROM his record in state assembly (depending on the audience).
Ask any rabid Villaraigosa supporter WHY he deserves to be mayor, and you'll either get:a) he's NOT Hahn; b) he has "connections" (which have NEVER
panned out for ANYTHING in L.A. in 2 years); or, c) the worst yet -- it just "feels" or "seems" like he's "right" for the job. Then there's also the racist, unspoken answer, which is: D) L.A. is "overdue" for a Latino mayor (so we'll lower our standards and accept this do-nothing empty suit, because he's come the closest to far).
How about a MAYOR who defends HIMSELF... who stands toe-to-toe with detractors and bad journalists and rumor-mongers and says "NO, you're wrong -- and here's why" -- not a pantywaist who needs to BE defended in every race because he's DONE nothing to warrant continued support, let ALONE earned his own keep in the city for TWO YEARS.
By the time he loses the mayoral race THIS year, his abject subjects will have made ADV the $6 MILLION MAN twice over. . . SIX MILLION for each year of lousy service to the city, and two failed mayoral races where he chased OFF other candidates who might have run against Hahn based on the merit of their accomplishments and ideas.
Perish FORBID anything like a 9/11 ever happened to L.A. if ADV became mayor -- HE would be hiding behind the voters, andf his political hacks would be circling the wagons around him aying "defend Tony, defend Tony!"
Don't bother stocking a bullhorn for this "mare" -- just get him a bulletproof vest and a bunker to hide in somewhere safe.
Your server has been acting up, better check it.
Speaking of NANCIES - do go check out the Hahnwatch blog. Safe from hordes of Anti-ADV anons, the Hahn-haters are engaging in a "safer" (less obstructed with facts and reason) form of mutual mastur-blogging.
To you Antonio lovers name just ONE accomplishment in the 2 yrs he's been councilman. Just one! The only ONE ADV list on his absentee ballot is community clean ups. My question is how can anyone vote for a councilman who only has ONE accomplishmet in 2 yrs? Chief Parker still waiting for that investigation of 80 neighborhood watches. ADV isn't listing them on his mailers.
"Help us defend Antonio from Jim Hahn's desperate attacks -- please contribute today!"
12:12 Anon -- the other side of this is the TWO-faced hypocrisy of the ADVlovers, saying...
Ha Ha, Hahn doesn't have enough money to keep up with ADV
And, Ha Ha, Hahnis preaching to racists and neocons on the radio - they don't count,
BUT,
PLEASE GIVE MORE MONEY TO DEFEND ADV!
(Defend him from what -- if there are NO more televised debates, Hahn is "broke," and his "free" media is worthless and easily discounted. Then there's no "attacks" right?
Maybe it's to defend ADV from his OWN record of incompetency. That's what "attacks" him most.
DESPERATE - DESPERATE - DESPERATE -
Jim Hahn for Mayor 2005 spending his precious little campaign funds to fund a recall of Antonio Villaraigosa as Councilman.
Can he sink any lower?
Adding to Mustang's comments about ADV hanging out with the big boys is to keep in mind that he may have been let into the BIG house, BUT he (ADV) hasn't been asked to sit at the table!
OK, I'll name an accomplishment of Antonio's!
He has managed to piss off the entire group of you bloggers, thus removing you from doing other mischief in CD 14 while you spend night and day taking up space on this blog that nobody reads.
If you were worth salt, you'd be out trying to raise enough for your cabron candidate to get on TV. As it is, he's out of bucks to go on TV until the last week.
Pretty smart of him, I'd say.
ADMITTED... his ONLY accomplishment -- NOW, or 4 years from NOW!
As much as you'd lilke to think so, Tony Lovers/Truth Haters, this isn't an accomplishment. It is a reaction, just like a rash, cold sore or fever. I'd say it were an itch but Tony would probably be the first in line to try and scratch it.
Regarding Kerry's e-mail, does Tony even know the meaning of the word integrity?
Yeah, REAL SMART -- stiffs his whole district and the city for two years worth of six-figure annula paychecks, JUST to keep "five sleazy recall bar owners" posting on a blog "the media never reads."
Don't you ADV-lovers ever even read each other's bogus claims before you contradict one another. Tony REALLY hates that, so shape up CD14 staffers.
Antonio spent $3 million more then Hahn in 2001. He even had more endorsements remember the unions? Well, that parade is over. Hahn may not have the money but he has the experience, record and will come out on top. Never underestimate him. Parks did and his butt was gone.
ADV is losing a percentage point of support a day --- bing, bang, boom.
It could never last when there's no material to work with. Millions for ads, zero for achievements.
Like the new media people always say -- CONTENT is king, (*and ADV is an empty suit).
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