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Tuesday, April 26, 2005

Check Into Cash

paydayJimmy Hahn must be getting desperate enough that finally his press releases are making it to Mayor Sam.

Besides box cutters, Vignali, Hugh Rodham and the Lakers lousy 2005 season, The Mayor of Poop is now blaming Tony Villar for payday loans. Boy, I'd hate to see the Mayor's Lexis-Nexis bills for all the crap he's digging up. Then again, maybe Laura Chick wants to see them.
MAYOR HAHN ANNOUNCES POLICY TO CRACK DOWN ON PAYDAY LOAN INDUSTRY
VILLARAIGOSA HELPED CREATE IN CALIFORNIA

LOS ANGELES – Mayor Hahn today announced a policy to crack down on
payday loan companies which have been preying on low-income and
minority consumers in California since they were legalized by former
Speaker Antonio Villaraigosa and the Sacramento Legislature in 1996.

The payday loan industry did $40 billion in business in 2003, and
generated an extra $6 billion in finance charges alone. Mayor Hahn's
policy will toughen zoning restrictions to make it more difficult for
these companies to do business in Los Angeles, putting the full weight
of the Mayor's office into stopping their rapid growth. There are now
more than 2,100 licensed payday lenders in California, over 250 of
which are in the City of Los Angeles. According to a recent study, 60
percent of African-Americans and 49 percent of Latinos in California
live within a mile of a payday loan company.

Villaraigosa voted to legalize payday lending in 1996. That bill was
opposed by the Consumers Union, which argued that "Particularly
vulnerable consumers need special protection precisely because they
are desperate and willing to accept almost any terms that are
offered." Payday lenders in California are currently allowed to charge
a fee of up to $15 per $100 borrowed, an interest rate of 911 percent
on a one-week loan.

Jean Ann Fox, Director of Consumer Protection for the Consumer
Federation of America, said in 1998, "The payday loan industry is the
modern-day equivalent of 'loan-sharking.'"

According to Center for Responsible Lending senior policy associate
Susan Lupton: "It's legalized loan-sharking. It's throwing an anvil to
someone who needs a life preserver."

As Speaker and Speaker Emeritus, Villaraigosa also opposed efforts by
consumer advocates to reform the payday loan industry. During that
time, he raised over $17,000 from the payday lenders for his political
campaigns, including his 2001 campaign for mayor.

"When he had the chance to lead, Antonio Villaraigosa failed to stand
up for consumers," Mayor Hahn said. "Instead of protecting low-income
Californians, minorities and seniors, he opened them up to payday loan
sharks whose sole goal is to rip them off."

"The sad fact is, thanks to Antonio Villaraigosa's efforts, there are
more payday loan companies today in California than McDonalds and
Burger Kings combined. That's why I'm going crack down on these
companies. We need to make sure they can't set up shop in our
neighborhoods and take advantage of the neediest among us."

California passed a law in 2002, supported by consumer groups, to
increase the regulation of payday loan companies. But Mayor Hahn said
that was only a first step.

"California was one of the first states to legalize payday
loan-sharking," Mayor Hahn said. "I don't want it to be the last to
get them out of our neighborhoods. 14 states ban payday loan
companies, including New York. We need to make that kind of commitment
to protect the most vulnerable consumers here in L.A. and across our
state."

46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey does anyone know who the national political figure coming out to endorse ADV on Saturday is?????

April 26, 2005 4:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey does anyone know who the national political figure coming out to endorse ADV on Saturday is?????

April 26, 2005 4:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The 42nd President of the United States.

April 26, 2005 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The frontrunner in the race to be the next mayor of the "City of Angels" is no angel himself, says a California family advocacy group. In fact, says the group, Antonio Villaraigosa has one of the worst records on family values and religious freedom in the state's history. "Villaraigosa is against the Boy Scouts, against protecting marriage for a man and a woman, against religious freedom, and against parental rights," says Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families. And there is more, Thomasson says. "If elected mayor, Villaraigosa would truly be 'the ACLU Mayor,'" he says. The CCF leader points out that in the early 1990s, the mayoral candidate was president of the Southern California chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, during which time he "relentlessly attacked" the Scouts, promoted homosexual "marriage," and persecuted religious values. And according to Thomasson, Villaraigosa -- as a member of the California State Assembly -- authored two "ultra-liberal" bills: one targeting religious businesses that prohibited the hiring of open homosexuals, and one requiting that high school student be taught to appreciate sexual orientation as a condition of graduation. Both bills were signed into law by then-Governor Gray Davis. Thomasson calls Villaraigosa a "deceptive" candidate who, if elected, will use his "unbridled power to undermine, attack, and destroy basic family values." [Jody Brown]

April 26, 2005 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

better not be the wanna be 44th; she's poison...

April 26, 2005 5:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So Jim Hahn is opposed to gay rights? Well lets hope that word gets out.

April 26, 2005 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I know ONE place you WON'T find chicken-SH.. ADV this week. . . he won't be at the following meeting to discuss why his SUPPORTER and IE campaign CONTRIBUTOR to the tune of $60K STOLE the designated school property from kids in his own backyard -- in a district where public high school are 130+ percent of capacity. Why he's willing to benefit from this crook's blood money stolen from Northeast kids futures.

NOPE, won't find THIS encounter on his schedule (from ASNCAlert):

Date: Thursday, April 28, 2005
Time: 6:30PM PDT

Taylor Yard Parcel F property, which LAUSD had an agreement in principal to purchase for use as the site for a new Northeast LA high school, was unexpectedly sold to another party, Richard Meruelo, without LAUSD's knowledge.

Assembly Member Jackie Goldberg is hosting a meeting for the
public to discuss the situation and its potential ramifications, and hear from LAUSD and other officials on how to proceed. Please attend and participate in this important community meeting at Glassell Park Elementary School - 2211 West Avenue 30 in Glassell Park

April 26, 2005 5:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you paid more attention BEFORE campaigns started, you'd see Hahn has been DOING things ever since he was elected -- FOR the people of the city. Look at the city's Website -- some new program, project, initiative EVERY week. You can't nail him for just being opportunistic with these things, because they didn't JUST start in the past 6 months. That's ADV's grind. Ask the people at Rec & Parks what kind of hoops he's got THEM jumping through the last couple weeks (on a project that's 12 months behind schedule in CD14 -- because HE's been AWOL and his troops are deer-in-headlights -- ALL just so HE can say he's moved ONE tiny project ahead in CD14 in TWO FULL YEARS!

Robbing their (RAP) operating budget to make ADV look good for election day. That's GRAFT by ANY definition.

April 26, 2005 5:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH, Please, please make it John Kerry endorsing ADV.

Losers of a feather, get knocked out together!

HA!

That's ALL the moderates middle of the Valley need to come SCREAMING back to Hahn's side.

Theses bozo liberals have NO idea how out-of-touch they are, thinking a rabid East Coast millionaire's endorsement would HELP ADV (it will HURT, so good!)

April 26, 2005 5:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is an excellent initiative on Hahn's part -- just what I would expect from someone who actually passed the bar the FIRST TIME.

Why you ADV-lovers want to hitch your wagon to "Forrest" Villaraigosa is beyond reason. Maybe its just so you can keep shouting.

RUN ANTONIO, RUN!!!

(But you DON'T need to ask... that all he CAN do -- run for office and run FROM responsibility).

April 26, 2005 6:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This check cashing thing is very typical of Tony's position on almost any substantive issue. He, and his consultants, say one thing and do exactly the opposite.

Tony is pro-consumer, but supports these check cashing businesses stealing from the desperate poor.

Tony says he is pro-environment then he takes a job with a corporation looking to destroy the desert.

Tony says he is pro female, then he subjects his wife to ridicule and he continues to treat women as objects.

Tony says he is all about law and order then he plays a pivotal role in freeing a white drug dealer.

Tony is pro black but he let's the blacks in this drug case linger in prison.

Funny thing is, Tony and his consultants have been selling Tony to the Sierra Club, Women's Groups and Maxine Waters - not to mention the Latino Peace Officers Association - and they have been buying his sales pitch lock, stock and barrel. If only they did their homework and weren't dazzzled like little school girls.

April 26, 2005 6:03 PM  

Blogger Phil Krakover said:

OK, folks, I'm back for a few weeks before I go back to my dirt nap.

When Mayor Sam and Bull Parker left, I had to run this stupid City. I left Ferraro in charge and look what he did. Ugh.

Hahn is so desperate right now, you Hahn folks are getting desperate, too.

Hoping for Kerry, hoping for Hillary, hoping for Teddy, hoping for anyone to save his and your butts. Waiting for Villaraigosa to make a mistake.

Well, if it is anyone except the old Bullshitter Bubba himself, it is stupid and Villaraigosa will deserve to lose.

Can Parke be that dumb? Hmmmm?

April 26, 2005 6:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which national figure can possibly help Tony now. Everyone that comes to mind will just be preaching to the choir. Hillary, Bill, Kerry, even Sharpton - Tony's got all those votes coming his way anyway. Tony needs white conservative republican votes. The only person that can help him with that is GW Bush, Tom Delay or Newt Gingrich. Otherwise, any liberal endorsement will further alienate the votes he needs. Keep up the good work Parke.

April 26, 2005 6:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LEXIS NEXXXXIS? Dang, you're a more out-of-date dinosaur pol even than ADV!

April 26, 2005 6:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

YES, 6:07 p.m., THAT's what I've been saying.

GW owes ADV an endorsement. ADV was SO successful working the Kerry campaign that GW WAS RE-ELECTED with a sub-50 percent approval rating!

April 26, 2005 6:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I know who it is.....it is Zacarias Moussaoui, coming here to go over box cutter techniques with Tony. Or perhaps to go over defense strategies against FBI tapes.

April 26, 2005 6:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHO SAYS THERE'S NO OTHER CHOICE (but Hahn and Villaraigosa)

This just in:

Candidate Name
OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK - ELECTION DIVISION
CITY OF LOS ANGELES
2005 GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION WRITE-IN CANDIDATES
CERTIFIED LIST OF CANDIDATES
As of April 21, 2005

MAYOR

CAESAR SAINT AUGUSTINE DE BUONAPARTE

April 26, 2005 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(Is that a Hispanic name?) Because IF it is. . . it's:

Another nail in ADV's coffin!

April 26, 2005 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

According to a loose-lipped Ahnold top operator, Rudy G himself is coming to town at the request of Dick Riordan to endorse Tony. WOnder how Bratton will take it. No love lost there.

April 26, 2005 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have a newsflash for all of the conservatives that hang out on this blog. Republicans are not a crucial voting block in Los Angeles elections. Kerry won Los Angeles County 65%-33% over an incumbent president (He won California 55%-44%). He probably won the city of LA by a lot more. Probably in the San Francisco range. Hahn didn't win last time because he had Republicans, he won because he had the African American vote. He also had a lot of non African American just because of his family name (Kenny Hahn was widely known). One more thing, Kerry's endorsement would not scare away moderate voters. You may not be aware of this but Kerry won moderate and independent voters in every single state he campaigned in. And he ran a LOUSY campaign (except for the debates).

I'm awaiting the following response. Antonio has orgies in West Hollywood and beat up his aunt and is having an affair with 5 female staffers and his daughter steals girl scout cookies or something else you guys can come up with....

April 26, 2005 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Right, GOP not crucial, but when he ran for councilmember in an 80 PERCENT Dem district two years ago, little ADV joined THE REPUBLICAN REVOLUTION and paid money to be in a mailed aimed JUST at GOP that was a bunco scam to make the FEW GOP voters think HE was the Republican.

But NOW, two years later, when he's already lost citywide once, and his opponent has been endorsed by EVERY legitimate GOP group that wold dirty itself with a double-Dem municipal mayors race, he SUDDENLY doesn't CARE about GOP votes (despite begging Riordan to endorse him as his second choice after Hertzberg).

Tell me ANOTHER fairy tale, daddy -- you lie ALMOST as good as your master, ADV!

April 26, 2005 6:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BOY, good things those GOP votes don't matter, Anon 1t 6:34... because, putting aside the much-maligned (here, anyway) Lincoln Clubs, there's STILL a truckload of current and former GOP leaders endorsing Hahn. Good thing that 20-25 percent of likely voters DOESN'T matter (because ADV is poison to them).

REPUBLICANS FOR HAHN

-- Los Angeles County Supervisor and former Republican State Chairman Mike Antonovich
-- U.S. Congressman Dana Robrabacher
-- U.S. Congressman Howard P. "Buck" McKeon
-- U.S. Congresswoman Bobbi Fiedler (ret.)
-- State Senator Bob Margett
-- State Senator Dick Mountjoy (ret.)
-- State Senator George Runner
-- Assemblyman Bob Huff
-- Assemblyman Dennis Mountjoy
-- Assemblywoman Sharon Runner
-- Assemblywoman Audra Strickland
-- Tony Strickland, Former Assembly Republican Caucus Chairman
-- Assemblywoman Paula Boland (ret.)
-- Los Angeles City Councilman Greig Smith
-- Los Angeles City Councilman Dennis Zine
-- Los Angeles City Councilman Hal Bernson (ret.)
-- Los Angeles City Councilman Rudy Svornich (ret.)
-- Former LA County District Attorney Bob Philibosian California
-- Supreme Court Justice Armand Arabian (ret.)
-- Former California Republican Party Chairman Frank Visco
-- Shawn Steel, Former California Republican Party Chairman
-- California Republican Party and LA County Lincoln Clubs Treasurer Doug Boyd
-- Republican Party of Los Angeles County Chairman Linda Boyd
-- Republican Party of Los Angeles County Vice Chairman Al Han
-- Republican Party of Los Angeles County Secretary Sylvia Granados
-- Southerland Republican Party of Los Angeles County Treasurer Cesar Castellanos
-- Republican Party of Los Angeles County Assistant Treasurer Timothy Escobar
-- Former Cerritos Mayor Bruce Barrows
-- Nancy Spero, President, San Fernando Valley Chapter, California Republican League
-- Former California Republican League Official Connie Friedman
-- United Republican Finance Committee Chairman Richards Barger
-- Former Republican Jewish Coalition President Bruce Bialosky
-- San Fernando Valley business and community leader Bert Boeckmann
-- Chairman of the campaign to Save the Los Angeles County Seal David Hernandez
-- Former Bush 2000 Campaign State Volunteer Chairman Dr. Joel Strom

(OH, but then, Tony has Riordan and a couple of pissed off wannabe SFV (secession) mayoral candidates that never were).

What happened to the "Riordan doesn't matter, he's unpopular" strain that oozed from ADV people when he endorse Bob H.? All gone now? NOW he's an ASSET?

April 26, 2005 6:56 PM  

Blogger Athena said:

Kerry? Hard to see how that could do anything but help Antonio.

Kerry won LA City 73% to 26%.

He has a massive fundraising and activist base in the city. He has the largest politcal e-mail list in the city.

At minimum Kerry helps Antonio raise a couple hundred thousand more. At best, his presence and endorsement helps turn out tens of thousands of partisan Democrats who wouldn't normally vote in a municipal election.

Hahn, with his KABC appearances, is trying to motivate a Republican base vote. His problem is that these Republicans don't like Hahn. The Kerry base likes Antonio.

April 26, 2005 7:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're not comparing apples with apples 6:34 -- you're talking about a Democrat vs. a Republican in city and county voting.

That's not what May 17 is about -- it's TWO Dems splitting up the Democratic vote (even if unevenly), PLUS one of them (Hahn) gets's the majority of the 20+ percent GOP vote (as icing on the cake).

This WAS a factor in 2001 -- nearly as much as the African American vote, which will STILL split, while ADV's Latino base is eroding from word of mouth and lying words FROM his mouth for two years.

The problem with a limited-appeal candidate like ADV (never won a citywide race vs. Hahn's 6X wins), getting such HIGH numbers from bogus polls early on has his hacks scared silly. They've got him running ragged pulling money from the East Coast (and looking dense in debates), out of their own fear of failing him again.

Get used to it, get over it, take your medicine. It's 2001 ALL over again, except the fall is going to be faster and sharper and hurt a hell of a lot more.

I'm not sure ADV can handle it this time. THEN, he has nowhere to go but backwards (and the trail of burned people BEHIND him DON'T want him back).

April 26, 2005 7:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's pretty simple logic -- you still need to get significant portions from EVERY subgroup in L.A. to win -- especially with two democrats running against each other.

Because of his rabid liberal background, ADV has several he's not even trying for -- avoiding most radio and TV news shows, out of fear of exposure as a limited, do-nothing candidate. Meanwhile Hahn has gone everywhere and has visible, notable support from several major players in every racial and ethnic camp.

Plus, L.A. talk radio is NOT just racist conservatives (in fact most of the hosts won't allow them to go there), Don't fool yourself - that's just more sour grapes. They wouldn't post the kind of numbers they do -- especially the locals, if that's all there was to it.

Many of the top talkers are libertarians and independents -- also not fond of the ACLU boy from the Eastside -- representing even MORE sub-groups ADV can't touch and is pretending he's not "interested" in as the preamble to sour grapes spin later.

April 26, 2005 7:13 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Unfortunately for Attention-Deficit Villaragosa, not ever having had an original idea is now coming back to bite him - BIG time. ADV® has tried to take a page out of Hahn's own 2001 play book (copying ideas, AGAIN, but still doing them wrong in the end) and has thrown all his eggs into taking away Hahn's African American base and growing his support in the Valley.

Even if the "field" hadn't changed drastically since then, taking that page wouldn't have been enough to save ADV® from himself and his own failure to perform. He's losing ground in his own support groups from 4 years ago, and can't BUY enough ads to make up for Hahn being free to walk (or talk, on radio and TV) into ANY part of the city and say "I improved THIS in your area, I lowered crime THIS much in this part of town."

And all ADV® can do to counter is say, "but people around hime are being INVESTIGATED."

NOW, after being nailed repeatedly since the primary by major media from the L.A. Times to local TV for doing NOTHING for two years -- except play "wait it out" coutesy of the city payroll, ADV®'s redundant, tedious "I'm a hands on leader" ads running incessitantly are sounding like some BAD joke or cartoon of the real ADV®, to anyone paying attention.

"Hands on? But you got NOTHING done in TWO YEARS?"

"Well then, what," they're starting to ask in droves, "did you HAVE your hands ON, all that time?"

April 26, 2005 7:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV was always claiming he was the "consensus builder" and that he brings people together -- looks like he's bringing the Republicans and Democrats together in this race to - to SUPPORT HAHN.

Look at ALL those former assembly people from the other side of the aisle that ADV said he worked well with - endorsing th OTHER guy.

His own district three-quarters democrats is more divided and wracked with partisan angst than ever before, and STILL no community leaders from the Eastside listed as supporting ADV - the people who know him best "love" him least.

April 26, 2005 7:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

IF it's Kerry I think that will backfire. The city loves Bratton and hates Parks. To those ADV lovers please please tell us one thing your guy has accomplished in his 2 yrs as councilman? Word is the media is out there getting stories on ADV. People are talking. No record, no community support, no accomplishments. Chief Parker where is your made up list of 80 neighborhood watches? Even some reporters now say they know they don't exist.

April 26, 2005 8:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry I met Rudy G. If he endorses ADV that will backfire. Can't believe Kerry would be dumb enough to get involved knowing media is still reporting the drug letter. Can he also be that desperate?

April 26, 2005 8:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sure doesn't look like the hahnwatch website is getting the traffic this one does. I still think it's MEAT or Chief Parker's way of distracting from these posting. Anti-ADV people should ignore that hahnwatch website and stick to this one. Post here.

April 26, 2005 8:59 PM  

Blogger Athena said:

Oh, by the way. How's that recall coming along? You have, what, like 10 days left to collect the signatures?

What? No signatures yet?

You mean this whole recall thing was a ruse? A lie? A scam?

And no one fell for it. Nothing in the papers. Not even Hahn was stupid or desperate enough to mention it.

April 26, 2005 9:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Athena,

It's just as how others have said about the entire recall effort: there was never a real organized campaign to remove Villaraigosa from office. They never had the money, the volunteers, and the structure to pull something off like that.

What it has been is nothing more than a grass-root effort to tarnish the name of Villaraigosa enough to weaken his campaign. They might have succeeded in some capacity at being a thorn for the Villaraigosa staff to deal with, (Martha Cisneros and Monica Harman - AKA "Beavus and Butthead") mostly because they show up to events to make a spectable out of themselves. But other than that, what can they really do?

With over 250,000 residents in the 14th Council District, the only real petition that counts is the one that has 125,001 signatures on it.

That's a hard task to accomplish, but I'm sure that the recall campaign is finding it hard enough to even hit 5% of that figure.

Come on recallers, report your #s!

April 26, 2005 9:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The recall was sacrificed for Nick's wife's new $75K convertible Lexus. If it wasn't for that she was off to Memphis.

April 26, 2005 9:25 PM  

Blogger Republican for AV said:

That's a fair trade, a skittery wife and a $75,000 convertible for a recall.

I love the politics of CD 14. Reminds me of the Keystone Kops.

There are plenty of Republ;iocans supporting Antonio, the ones you have listed are just the party hacks.

The vote is 22% of the City, but Republicans tend to vote more than Democrats.

Jimmy may do better in that froup, but not well enogh to overcome the rest of the City, especially his former support group in th eblack community.

April 26, 2005 9:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Again ADV Lovers attack and try and discredit those who don't support him. MONICA IS NOT PART OF RECALL. You have to live in CD14, she doesn't. Ask some of the city council members the great compliments and positive remarks Antonio made about Monica's committment to public safety to the entire city council meeting when she was campaigning for Measure A. Its on tape.

April 26, 2005 10:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is why the Black Community will not vote for Antonio. Not when he wrote a letter to get off a white guy and 30 blacks are still doing time for the same crime.
.....ex-councilman, Mike Hernandez, was also arrested and convicted for buying cocaine from two of his constituents. The Los Angeles Times reported that he would go to the Pico-Union area which is located just west of City Hall to buy cocaine during lunch. It was reported that authorities found pornography in his City Hall office during the investigation and search for evidence…….. including the support of another ex-councilman by the name of Richard Alatorre. Richard Alatorre was also a heavy user and abuser of cocaine. Court testimony by his staff relate accounts of his cocaine use while on duty. It was testified that he often came back from the office restroom with a white residue around his nose and that the same white residue was often seen on the top of his office desk. Unfortunately for La Raza, what James Hahn is throwing at Villargairosa is based on facts.Without exception, all of these "politicos" are members of the corrupt Democratic Party. The "Pardons for Sale" scandal
This scandal has angered two large blocks of voters in Los Angeles. The first is the L.A. Black community. The Black community is asking why the thirty Black youths that were imprisoned along with Carlos Vignali were not released as well. In fact, Carlos Vignali was the principal culprit in the crime. He was the one that provided the money necessary for the crack cocaine operation and was one of the main leaders.

April 26, 2005 10:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Of course Republicans are supporting Antonio Villaraigosa - they know they can buy him.

April 26, 2005 10:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is there any city agency with which Laura Chick is satisfied?

April 26, 2005 11:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

if you guys read what was posted instead of being so consumed with what you write, you would have seen on Mayor Sam around 10 days ago the following:

1) The amount of money raised for the recall.

2) The number of signatures gathered.

And it is nowhere near the 125,001 number that a previous poster believes would be legitimate.

Come to think of it, how many votes did Antonio get in 2003? 14,000? Wow, 110,001 short of legitimacy!

April 27, 2005 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"You mean this whole recall thing was a ruse? A lie? A scam?"

Previous Anon, you're mistaking the recall -- a hard fought, but underfunded effort by grass roots activist who know they got screwed by ADV, with ADV's TWO YEARS on city council.

Now THAT was "...a ruse! A lie! A scam!"

Or else there would be something to show for it other than Tony's cancelled paychecks and the district's standstill projects!

April 27, 2005 1:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nice accurate reporting there, past poster "lots of Republicans support" ADV. They must all be members of the 80 invisible new neighborhood watches.

So Republicans who support Hahn are "party hacks" and those who support the more liberal, extremist Democrat candidate are what? MORE Republican.

Wow, the denial it takes to stay in line behind ADV is just staggering. It takes more FAITH in things unseen and promises of "future glory" to follow the pathology that is Antonio Villaraigosa, than to be a right-wing religious fanatic.

April 27, 2005 1:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In the SIX Months Mayor Sam's blog has been screaming Hahn is corrupt there's been more PROOF of an actual recall against ADV than of anything criminal of unethical done by Hahn.

April 27, 2005 2:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Laura Chick's next going to audit her own department, to see if there's anyone there the public has actually HEARD of before.

Whole department of bean counters run by a wannabe mayor who's alienating everyone she'll need help from to get any other job in government.

April 27, 2005 2:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, just out of curiosity, when is the recall election in CD 14?

Does anyone have the actual numbers of signatures required and those that have been obtained and turned in for verifation?

Why do I get the idea that this is a thing that is not going to happen in our lifetimes?

April 27, 2005 8:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, just out of curiosity, when are the HIGH LEVEL INDICTMENTS coming down around the ears of the Hahn administration?

Does anyone have the actual names of people who supposedly are being investigated by law enforcement officials that ACTUALLY work for Hahn and when they will ACTUALLY be indicted or even asked to testify?

Why do I get the idea that this is a thing that is not going to happen in our lifetimes?

(See what I did there... see how this works, bozo!)

April 27, 2005 9:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why don't you read mayor sam and you could get all the info on the recall you want. But here is a little something for you:

Villaraigosa spends $800,000 in 2003 to get 14000 votes in CD14.

Recall spends $3000 to get 4000 signatures.

Isn't Villaraigosa lucky the recall couldn't raise $20000!

Where were those "sleazy" bar owners when the recall needed them, Meat? (Just more bs from the biggest dum dum on Mayor Sam.)

April 27, 2005 9:40 AM  

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