Wing Nuts for Jim Hahn
County seal crusader David Hernandez proves that even a good guy can make a mistake once in a while.He just sent out a missive that was passed on to us asking folks to support Jim Hahn, in part, because it was the ACLU morons who scared the diarrhea out of the blowhard county supes who wiped clean our old county seal. Of course, Jim Hahn never came out in defense of the county seal (designed by his own dear old dad) until he was 20 points behind with less than a month to go in the election of his life.
Indeed, we detailed how the Mayor De Caca himself finally got religion at the last minute and came out in favor of the seal. As well, no one has proven that Tony Villar opposed the seal to begin with.
Interesting too that Hernandez's endorsement of LA's version of Gray Davis comes just as Jimmy Boy tossed his support to the new efffort to once again bring back the old seal. I truly hope this is no quid pro quo, ehh Dah-vid?
You see my friends, Jim Hahn has no record to run on and perhaps a criminal one coming his way. All of this crap - the seal, claiming Tony raped a woman with box cutters, the Carlos Vignali letter, all of it - is designed to take your eyes off a failure of an administration that has been described as the most unethical since Frank Shaw (sorry Frank, nothing personal). He wants you to worry about this kind of crap, and not that he has accomplished nothing in terms of the things he promised he would do four years ago when elected.
Mack Reed by the way goes into this in more detail at LA Voice - how the mayor is trying every dirty trick in the book to sway the spotlight off his sorry ass.
So in desperation, Jimmy Hahn is firing up - and using - the right wing nuts because he lost the Blacks and the Valley voters who once supported him. Trouble is, the right wing nuts are letting themselves be used. Jimmy is running around with an metaphoric elephant on his lapel as if he is no less a socialist than Tony Villar. Well the right wing nuts better take a look at Jimmy Hahn's support for Special Order 40, socialist schemes like the housing trust fund, banning Wal-Mart and his coziness with the unions. Oh yea, Jim is a Reagan Republican.
For those of you Republicans who are on the fence - know that a lot of Republicans such as Richard Riordan and many Valley leaders are supporting Villaraigosa. You can judge these two guys on the issues and make a decision - fair. But don't fall into the trap that even some top notch radio broadcastes such as Doug McIntyre and Al Rantel are falling into. Jim Hahn is not a conservative nor even one iota more conservative than Tony Villar. Kam Kuwata has slyly created an unholy alliance with Wacko Walter, Hal Netkin and other wing nuts that is going to come back to haunt them.
I can say these things, because I - Mayor Sam - am a bit of a right wing nut myself. But I will not be fooled by Jimmy Hahn. Sure, I may be taking a dump in the toilet with my vote for Tony Villar, but I'll gamble with new shit, than the same old stinking shit I've been dealing with for four years now.
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 4/25/2005 03:34:00 PM
28 Comments:
You guys are starting so many threads its unbelievable! How many threads are you going to start, so the readers don't get a chance to read what's posted on previous threads?
The entire AV staff is scrambling to find out who is leaking the information and how to cover it up. The Vignali incident has opened many doors, and one of those doors were to Villaraigosa and his infinite cast of shady characters. It's over AV. Vignali is much bigger than previously led on. It goes all the way too the top.
It should be Antonio DE CACA because he is so full of it.
DESPERATE. You guys are showing your cards at how Antonio has lost his peak. You've posted more articles in the last 2 hrs then ever before. Parke, Ace and ADV look stupid today. AFter making a big deal and blaming Hahn for that $700,000 OT for Van Nuys City Hall come to find out the CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE OT. Let see KFI Bill Handel, John & Ken have blasted Antonio. KFI is rated #2 radio station in LA. You don't think people are listening while in their cars? Larry Elder, blasted ADV last week. They know if ADV gets in this will become Mexico City.
Mayor Sam and Chief Parker should be investigated for working overtime! Another Skelton tactic, distraction, distraction, distraction! Keep it up, this is fun. Although I'm sure Parke, Ace and Tony aren't laughing. What was it that Steve Lopez said about Alvin Parra - that he was the Homer Simpson of L.A. politics. I guess that makes Parke Mr. Burns - DOOOH!
That's right Chief! This is my god damn blog and the rest of you can play on the freeway!
Just know, I won't delete something because I don't agree with it, nor even if you blast me.
I will, however, delete stuff that is repetive bullshit copied over and over again (like this god damn Larry King crap) on multiple articles. Not only is it bullshit that whomever you are that we know who works on the 3rd floor is doing this, but it makes it harder for everyone to read the blog, without regard to their viewpoint.
We will also delete any slanderous posts, particularly if they mention innocent people of unproven charges (like names of people some people are supposedly having affairs with). If you can prove it, bring it on. Also, if I miss anything like that (no matter who its about) let me know cause unlike Meat and Sac Nighties, I don't spend all day on this blog.
Now go gargle with razor blades you bums!
The censorship on this blog equals the mentality of the Villaraigosa camp. This is exactly how Villaraigosa runs his office "Put up or Shut Up!" He is the NEW AGE COMMUNIST, and is getting the Clinton Administration in trouble with the bringing the Vignali case in the lime light.
I don't know much about the box cutter incident or the woman he fought with in Capitol Hill, the other incident where he obtained over 160k from Vignali's dad, but I do know there is much more...if you read between the lines, I already know...it's all about timing.
Your main point for suggesting that people vote for ADV is STILL, "he's not Jim Hahn?"
Now we hear maybe Kerry (the "he is not Bush!" loser candidate) may be on his way to try and stop Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa's decline and rescue him from his inevitable rerun slide pattern mirroring 2001.
Your claims that the "crap" being spread about ADV last minute is to take eyes off Hahn's record is falling on deaf ears -- BECAUSE that's exactly what Tony V. did for 6 months before; throw "crap" at Hahn distract from his "lackluster" (L.A. Times) time in City Council. The difference is -- Tony's "crap" never delivered on it's promise, and people know a certain amount of Hahn's is based on proven flaws in ADV's character.
Unfortunately for ADV, he can't turn back the clock and undo his past -- and his "crap" about Hahn are much newer and based on less evidence.
All you hacks are cynics at heart and are willing to throw you own votes away, voting "against" - but most of us real people still want to vote "for" someone. ADV will lose because of this. But maybe in 20 years there will be an equal amount of Hahn garbage to dig up (with SOME proof) and he can try again.
Pretty sad when the two figure-heads of the BLOG have to cheer each other on... your Hahn-hating jabs are missing their mark out here. Four years or rampant "corruption" even if your prove any of it is still out-STUNK by ADV's entire career as an empty-suited showboat who can't get anything done.
This blog was deleted so much, you can't deny the fact of this blog in cahoots with Villaraigosa campaign. It is actually Ace, Parke, Ulysses, Carreon, and all the "good" people with "NO History" who never had any extramarital affairs running this show...We'll keep you posted on the new show soon.
Too bad for Tony V. "nuts" vote a lot more consistently and often than the "lovers" who just want to feel good about some pretty-boy candidate.
Someone is Maaaad! It ain't the AV Haters, it's the creme of the crop AV lovers in the office pulling their hairs out as to why Ulysses let this happen, Are you not in control? I control the blog, I control the delete button, I control the voters, repeat after me, I am the most holy man in American-I am Villaraigosa!" Those wing nuts are aiming right at AV, but they are not wing nuts, it's the FBI.
Mayor sam, I do not believe you are a right winger at all, that comment you made does not go hand in hand with the way you have behaved in deleting all types of posts that are not in favor of Villaraigosa. A right winger, republican, and even a conservative democrat has much more unbiased behavior than the freedom of expression you took away from most people here today. You sleep with commies, you are a commie.
Mayor Sam, there had to be a quid pro quo between the Mayor and David. First off, Jim Hahn never makes a deal or takes a position that doesn't benefit him, but more importantly, I too received the Hernandez email and in it David says:
"After the Mayor stepped forward and formally endorsed our petition drive, I decided to act on his behalf. "
Smoking gun. Quid pro quo. As a Catholic Latino Republican I am ashamed in David.
You must be a total moron or unable to read and remember anything. Jim Hahn was interviewed in by the print news media when the County seal ruckus began and defended his fathers design. So shut up!
Face it, Mayor Sam, two-thirds of the likely voters are "wing nuts" of one kind or another.
Your boy's just sore because ALL the wing-nuts are accessible to a more moderate, less ACLU-cloistered Dem like Hahn, while ADV is stuck trying to create a 51 percent coalition of a much smaller center-left pool.
Hahn's sister also came out for the seal early on, too.
Tony's just sore there isn't something people actually like and want to keep that HE can endorse (that doesn't alienate some other fringe he's already pandered all over).
HECK, but if Hahn had made a big stink about it weeks ago, you can be SURE copycat ADV would have followed within days, just to be an asshole trumpster.
ADV: "I think there should be TWO crosses, much bigger, and a STAR of David, and a MUSLIM crescent, and a HAMMER AND SICKLE, for my commie buddies, and a something for the Bhudda-buddies, too. (Can we sneak a Shinto emblem in, as well, maybe on the back side, and then leave a BIG empty space for the Athiests, and a QUESTION MARK for the agnostics.
I'll get back to you on the rest.
Ah, hell.... ADV thinks the Mayor of L.A. should just RUN the county (damn, there go's Gloria's endorsement). See how delicate a balance there is when you try to pander to EVERY fringe!
Does Hal Netkin sleep well at night when he supports Mayor Hahn and the police chief who told white people to leave the state?
KABC Radio - Ken Minyard Show - August 26, 2003
Caller Steve (regarding Special Order 40): "The rest of your arguments are humorous. They're here illegally his job is to uphold the law."
Chief Bratton: "In as much as California has pretty much indicated that they don't want us involved in that issue, we're out of that business. If you don't like it leave the state."
Jim Hahn should be blackballed by the California Democratic Party for getting in the dirt with the republicans.
Rumor has it he is going to switch his party affiliation so he can take Knabe's spot when he retires.
ADV did the EXACT same GOP-baiting stuff when he ran for City Council. It's been documented here, put his name on a mailer BIG AND BOLD inside -- had GW's picture on the front with a smiling face, said "JOIN THE REPUBLICAN REVOLUTION" (with a TINY, TINY asterisks by his name saying "this candidate MAY not agree with everything the mailer implies). You needed a MICROSCOPE to see that, but the GOP-baiting flyer wording was BIG AND BOLD.
ADV wanted people to think HE was the Republican in 2003 vs. Pacheco, to lure in the old folks and moderates up in the far north of CD14 -- Eagle Rock, Glassell Park, and Mount Washington -- and it helped him.
He mailed it ONLY to GOP voters, and fooled a lot of people.
Don't got getting all "holier than thee" for ADV. It's a MUCH farther stretch for him to pretend he's in any way compatible with GEORGE BUSH than for Hahn to tell people he's acceptable to Pat Boone and Walter Moore (and Netkin just hates ADV, period).
What's down the Vignali well are those FBI tapes that have Tony singing like a bird. It's just like Tony to think that he is invincible. That's what did in Alatorre, Polanco and Hernandez. They all thought they were untouchable. Those threads were deleted because Parke knows the truth. It doesn't help that Corina is no longer on the campaign. Fighting two wars on two fronts only spells defeat Parke. But Skelton has known Tony for over ten years now, you of all people should know what a big mouth he has. If you don't, the FBI tapes will let you know. One more week until the Vignali deadline! 2001 all over again.
"Jim Hahn should be blackballed by the California Democratic Party for getting in the dirt with the republicans."
There are Republicans in the Lincoln Clubs and the L.A. GOP leadership that should be blackballed by the California Republican Party for supporting the ethically challenged Hahn administration.
Support from these Lincoln Club and other Republican leaders, many who do not even live in the City of L.A., will not help Hahn's sinking campaign. They are just hoping that Hahn will win so that Hahn can do a fundraiser for them just like Hahn did for Tony Strickland after then-Assemblyman Strickland lined up the California Republican Assembly to support Hahn's campaign.
Since when did support from people "not living in L.A. matter" You notice how MANY of ADV supporters are from out-of-town, not to mention how much MONEY he's pulling in from people on the East Coast. It's a GD elite-coast takeover - but we have to live with the crappy results.
PLEASE -- the closer you get to ADV's district the less endorsements he gets.
HOW MANY COMMUNITY LEADERS FROM CD14 on Antonio's Website endorsement list. Still NONE, or did they finally find one sellout to destroy their own rep.
THEY KNOW, and you've been warned! Time to take out the trash, not promote it to MAYOR!
Jim Hahn has acomplished nothing. Let's see. When Mayor Hahn took office there were 36 libraries in all of Los Angeles. He opened 36 more, all without complaints from neighbors. He has also increased the hours and equipment in every library in the city.
When Mayor Hahn took office, McArthur park was a drug dealers haven that no one would go near. Now families can picknic there on a sunday without any worries.
Since Mayor Hahn took office crime is down, dramatically.
When Mayor Hahn took office no one thought the school district could find the land to build new schools on. Because Mayor Hahn worked aggressively with the district, they did so with a minimum of trouble in affected neighborhoods.
When 9/11 happened shortly after Mayor Hahn took office, most public safety experts predicted a disaster in Los Angeles which was identified quickly as being next on the terrorists list. Mayor Hahn kept the port open (The only major port to remain open without closing for significant amounts of time).
He took care of extra security costs without a dramatic increase in taxes (some people predicted LA would have to spend 20 percent of their budget just on new security measures) and kept the city safe. While he was working to keep the city safe he also made much needed improvements to a lot of areas including the pier area around Los Angeles. Mayor Hahn knew money would have to be spent on safety and he figured out how to also spend it on improving the city at the same time.
Mayor Hahn is the first mayor to make significant steps in empowering neighborhood councils developing rapid transit throughout the city. Clearly more has to be done, but he has gotten us started.
Mayor Hahn has worked to stop developers who wanted to use our need for affordable housing as a way to build without any sort of thought to the neighborhood they would be located in.
And so on and so forth. If you are for someone else, that is fine, but don't be silly and try and claim that Jim Hahn hasn't done anything.
Mayor Poopie has given away the City Treasury to Julie Butcher and Miguel Contreras.
Why else do they support him?
Graft, corruption and thievery abound and Jimmy is asleep in San Pedro, safe and sound from the crap that we face in LA, especially the drive-by's in CD 14.
What's the matter, not good enough for police protection?
Shame, shame, shame on Hahn.
Go chase Miguel and Julie and kiss their butts; don't forget McOsker's brother, the Firefighters Union guy.
Their butts are covered with Hahn kisses.
It is time for a change, and Hahn is not the candidate of change, dspite his campaign rhetoric.
He has had his chance and failed. Mayor Poopie has pooped out.
You're obviously looking at a different race -- the the past week, it's been Hahn gaining ground and ADV losing it -- just like 4 years ago, and Tony doesn't have a single card left up his sleeve. Tons of boring "my wife's a teacher" ads and pretend handshakes with fake citizens?
Yawn, saw it in March -- nothing left for Tony but stealing more City Council paychecks.
Enjoy, the career "ladder" turned out to be a step-stool Tony, and you're already on you tiptoes on the top, and falling FAR short of being mayor material.
What a marriage made in heaven!
The Service Employee Union, the Municipal Employees Union and...The Republicans.
But, that's not really true. A few outspoken nuts from the right side of the Republican Party chose to support Hahn.
Many outstanding Republicans, many from the Valley stand with Antonio.
Jimmy's coalition, the one he cobbled together four years ago, is gone, gone, gone.
The Black Community is voting for Villaraigosa in larger numbers than for Jimmy, and the Valley Conservative Democrats have all endorsed Villaraigosa and are supporting him this time around. Their disappointment with Jimmy is palatable.
The above explains why the numbers have been so large in Villaraigosa's favor.
Sure, those numbers will narrow; no one in their right mind expects it to be 64% to 32%, or even 53% to 35%, but those are the legitimate results of the polls by ABC and the LA Times, respecively.
So now the results of Jimmy's non-support will show, as the advertising begins.
On May 5, at 5:00 P.M., the news will be there in black and white for the world to see; Jimmy has virtually no support from the community and will be tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands behind.
The raising of money is a barometer of how the public will vote.
Jimmy's barometer is falling; stormy days ahead.
Ok poster so what is your argument for the fact that in 2001 Antonio had more money, was ahead in the polls, and a lot of the endorsements and then he lost. Don't forget Antonio's record hadn't come out when the LAT poll was taken. Not only that but a lot of what the media is reporting wasn't out. I doubt those polls are still that high.
In 2001 the public barely knew either candidate.
Despite 20 years in City office, Hahn had kept a low profile and half the voters thought they were still voting for his Daddy, viz. James KENNETH Hahn.
Now they know him and he has a lousy record of corruption and incompetence in his Administration, and has managed to piss off the Black Community and The Valley in the last four years.
Likewise they barely knew Antonio and Hahn had the money to paint him as a dope dealer and criminal type. Now they know this is not true. He has been a Councilman and they know who he is, and they know he is not a dope dealer.
Hahn has not been able to paint him as such and he will not stand by and take the punches as he did in 2001 without a strong response.
People are unhappy; the city if full of potholes and awful traffic, and they rightfully blame the incumbent Mayor. The public wants a change. Even Hahn knows it, trying to position himself as The Candidate of Change". Is that not the best joke of the year???
For all these reasons, Jimmy is toast.
That's true. Jimmy does have some staffers who have been known to get violent when the politics don't go their way.
That's it boys...scare those union leaders into supporting the mayor.
But its backfired. While the Union leaders have egg over their face and have to publicly support this clown, their members are coming out in droves for ADV.
Some of these unions may have new leaders next year. Imagine that - Julie BUTCH-er might have to get a job.
Well Jackie Goldberg may be hiring, wink wink.
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