Hahn's New Theme
Over the past few weeks Jim Hahn has released one endorsement after the other, what I did not notice is a theme. I did not see the theme until today.
The theme Jim Hahn is using for this debate is one issue – Secession. Don’t see it? Let me explain.
Hal Bernson
Nate Holden
Mike Antonovich
Walter Moore
And now the weirdest dinosaur of them all --- Paula Boland – have all endorsed Hahn.
Hal Bernson on Secesssion
The Valley secession movement, which is the oldest and best organized of the three, began in 1975, when a group of political neophytes formed CIVICC, the Committee Investigating Valley Independent City/County. Their rebellion was crushed when the California Legislature, in part thanks to lobbying by then-Mayor Tom Bradley, gave large cities veto power over secession, even if voters approved it. But the leaders of the group became powerful over the years: Hal Bernson, then the owner of a jeans store at the Northridge Fashion Center, was elected to the Los Angeles City Council in 1979 and serves as an alternate on the Local Agency Formation Commission, the state panel overseeing the secession applications –April 14th Los Angeles Times
Nate Holden on Secession
In recent days, City Councilman Nate Holden has also begun speaking out in favor of secession – April 5th 2002 Daily News
Mike Antonovich on Secession
ACCORDING TO ANTONOVICH, "THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY AS A STAND-ALONE CITY WOULD BE ONE OF THE TEN LARGEST CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN CALIFORNIA. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING TREATED AS A 'POOR STEPCHILD' OF THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES. SAN FERNANDO VALLEY RESIDENTS NOT ONLY SUFFER FROM A PHYSICAL DISTANCE FROM CITY HALL BUT ARE EVEN MORE DISTANCED –Mike Antonovich’s County website
Walter Moore on Secession
Hahn, backed by massive contributions from special interests eager to maintain their lucrative "pay to play" status quo, persuaded a majority to vote against secession. Moore voted for secession. –Walter Moore Website
Paula Boland (the largest recipient of BFI funding in BFI history) on Secession
Another CIVICC member, Paula Boland, was elected to the Legislature in 1990 and sponsored a bill to repeal the city secession veto –April 14th Los Angeles Times
Now to fair Tony Villar has his list of Secession supporters as well, Keith Richman, Benny Bernal and Richard Close Chairman of Valley Vote.
However, it should be noted that Tony has also received the endorsements of others who opposed secession like, Richard Riordan, Yvonne Burke, Maxine Waters and Bernard Parks.
This chief opposed secession, mainly because I believed the City would then have to raise taxes and my conservative instincts didn’t like the taste of that.
My only question to Hahn is this, when you reach out to old dinosaurs like you have, I begin to wonder if the ship is sinking or have you lost your rudder?
The theme Jim Hahn is using for this debate is one issue – Secession. Don’t see it? Let me explain.
Hal Bernson
Nate Holden
Mike Antonovich
Walter Moore
And now the weirdest dinosaur of them all --- Paula Boland – have all endorsed Hahn.
Hal Bernson on Secesssion
The Valley secession movement, which is the oldest and best organized of the three, began in 1975, when a group of political neophytes formed CIVICC, the Committee Investigating Valley Independent City/County. Their rebellion was crushed when the California Legislature, in part thanks to lobbying by then-Mayor Tom Bradley, gave large cities veto power over secession, even if voters approved it. But the leaders of the group became powerful over the years: Hal Bernson, then the owner of a jeans store at the Northridge Fashion Center, was elected to the Los Angeles City Council in 1979 and serves as an alternate on the Local Agency Formation Commission, the state panel overseeing the secession applications –April 14th Los Angeles Times
Nate Holden on Secession
In recent days, City Councilman Nate Holden has also begun speaking out in favor of secession – April 5th 2002 Daily News
Mike Antonovich on Secession
ACCORDING TO ANTONOVICH, "THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY AS A STAND-ALONE CITY WOULD BE ONE OF THE TEN LARGEST CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN CALIFORNIA. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING TREATED AS A 'POOR STEPCHILD' OF THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES. SAN FERNANDO VALLEY RESIDENTS NOT ONLY SUFFER FROM A PHYSICAL DISTANCE FROM CITY HALL BUT ARE EVEN MORE DISTANCED –Mike Antonovich’s County website
Walter Moore on Secession
Hahn, backed by massive contributions from special interests eager to maintain their lucrative "pay to play" status quo, persuaded a majority to vote against secession. Moore voted for secession. –Walter Moore Website
Paula Boland (the largest recipient of BFI funding in BFI history) on Secession
Another CIVICC member, Paula Boland, was elected to the Legislature in 1990 and sponsored a bill to repeal the city secession veto –April 14th Los Angeles Times
Now to fair Tony Villar has his list of Secession supporters as well, Keith Richman, Benny Bernal and Richard Close Chairman of Valley Vote.
However, it should be noted that Tony has also received the endorsements of others who opposed secession like, Richard Riordan, Yvonne Burke, Maxine Waters and Bernard Parks.
This chief opposed secession, mainly because I believed the City would then have to raise taxes and my conservative instincts didn’t like the taste of that.
My only question to Hahn is this, when you reach out to old dinosaurs like you have, I begin to wonder if the ship is sinking or have you lost your rudder?
Posted by Anonymous @ 4/08/2005 09:11:00 AM
20 Comments:
This is the most incomprehensible post to date Chief. And, is your point that soon-to-be former Mayor Hahn is now going to run as the secession candiate? That's laughable and doesn't pass the straight-face test.
Ummmmmmm.... Methinks you missed the point... Jim Hahn is running on a "I kept this City together" theme... and faught secession every step of the way so on this one, your dead wrong
yea Chief... you would have to raise taxes if the valley got it's fair share of services. Thats why the cop tax failed, the Valley folks are tired of sending our cops to clean up your mess of south central.
Funny, Chief Parker, your so-called "conservative instinks" don't seem to have any trouble cozying up to ADV, the most spend-crazy rabid liberal to ever get this far in an L.A. mayor's race.
The guy who as speaker helped run the state up to the ledge PAST the outer edge of bankrupty with rampant spending.
The mayoral candidate who has refused under repeated questioning to rule out tax increases in the city (if) elected. Whose track record shows he HAS to raise taxes in the city non-stop to pay off any part of the pandering he's now becomes best known for.
Compared to your hate-Hahn bias, your "instincts" and concern about increases taxes take a way-way back seat.
Yeah, you're a conservative all right CP (wink, wink). Tell me another night-night story. The one about the three bears, maybe?
Hahns theme is steadfast... as opposed to Flip Flop Tony...
Flip Flopped on wether he would run for mayor (he already has filed for Senate),
Flip Flopped on the firing of good for nothing Parks (wow... hasn't crime gone DOWN since we fired his sorry ass???)
and now is Flip Flopping on the closing of landfills...
I wouldn't trust Tony with the keys to my 78 Nova
Hey, here's a one-liner that could have saved you from embarrassing yourself with this far-fetched thread.
MAYBE these are the secessionists that (now that they're STUCK being part of this city), realize they need someone competent running it so we ALL survive -- i.e. NOT ADV.
You forgot his Flip Flop on Neighborhood Councils. Tony has never been to ONE NC meeting... takes their money and has NO plan to empower NC's at all.
Parker said: ...when you reach out to old dinosaurs like you have, I begin to wonder if the ship is sinking or have you lost your rudder?"
And when you have to hide behind the identities of old dinosaurs like Yorty and Parker to hide the fact that you're really a couple of pissed off junior--grade, modern day civil servants Hahn's people passed over for unwarranted promotions, then pretty much any analysis you post through teary, bitter eyes isn't worth the bytes it burns.
ADV can raise multi-millions to keep running his worn-out 20th century career into the ground, but can't come up with a few thousand extra from "influential" contacts to keep projects up and running in his own district.
It's all about HIM, ain't it!
Amazing that Hahn can get supporters who opposed him on an issue and now realize they want him more then ever. This is why Antonio will lose for sure. It comes down to public safety. Los Angeles Times, Boland criticized Villaraigosa for voting against bills to increase penalties for gang crimes, allow judges to require gang members convicted of crimes to register with local law enforcement, allow the seizure of assets from gang members convicted of crimes, and increase the penalty for those convicted of child abuse resulting in death.
FLIP FLOP AV...Villaraigosa of voting against a 1995 bill to authorize as many as 300 charter schools statewide.
Steve Lopez column this morning. A black customer is quoted, "If Villaraigosa wins," said Mr. Ford, we might as well all be living in Mexico." Ain't that that the truth!!
10:47 AM post by SacramentoNighties
Word Count=818 (3 pages)
Hmmmmm....
My word county - 10
There are some things money can't buy...For everything else there is useless blah, blah, blah
"Word County"... is that out by Inyo? Money CAN by a spell-checker. Get right on that, okay?
Short don't mean true, long don't mean wrong. Is someone, UNDER-compensating, here?
What an asshole!
"If at first you don't secede, try, try again"
Jimmy would embrace the devil right now if he thought it would get him a vote, an endorsement, or a dollar donation.
Funny, he hasn't embraced Antonio yet -- are your suggesting that's ADV's next "big" endorsement?
I'll wait and see.
Lucifer already endorsed ADV -- a few threads back. Check in here more often.
HEY MORON... Antonovitch and Bernson were ANTI - SECESSION!!!!!!
Well, that poops on the whole THEME of the thread.
Don't try to confuse this Chief with facts, though, he's an ADV supporter. They vote based on "feelings -- nothing more than feelings, try to forget my, feelings of love. . ."
Everyone sing along, it's Antonio's new campaigns theme song.
More biggies again today, (gasp) Merv Dymally...now there'sa man ot be admired. How he's kep out of jail all these years is truly a wonder.
And, a guy named "Joe".
Keep rollin' 'em out, Kam. They are bigger than life, and certainly offset the meaningless endorsements of Villaraigosa by Yvonne Braithwaite Burke, Maxine Waters, Bernard Parks, Herb Wesson and Re. Cecil (Chip) Murray.
No doubt you're hoping for Earvin "Magic" Johnson, huh? Don't bet on it.
While you're at it, take a shot at getting the endorsements of Tom Bradley and Gil Lindsey. Your chances might be slightly better with them than with Magic...
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