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Wednesday, June 03, 2009

Recalling Villaraigosa

In the last three months since the Mayoral election, I have been approached by several people who have suggested that I lead a recall action against Antonio Villaraigosa. They have expressed their detailed complaints against him, most of which come as no surprise to me, because I ran against Villaraigosa myself based on some of these very similar issues.

I turned down these requests to be at the forefront of a recall action for several reasons. I didn't think...and I still don't think ... that it is my place to be leading the recall action. I did what I could do against a terrible leader in this city. I ran against him in the election and asked people to vote him out and to vote me in. Unfortunately, I didn't have the millions of dollars necessary to run a winning campaign. On election day, over 90% of the voters who walked into the polling stations had never heard of me. For the most part, they hadn't heard of any of the other candidates, either. (All apologies to Walter Moore, who did raise some money, but still only had 10% of what the Mayor could spend.)

Most voters in Los Angeles showed their displeasure with Villaraigosa by refusing to participate in the election. Even though the Presidential election in November of 2008 had shown record levels of voter interest and participation, the Mayoral election in March 2009 was pretty much the polar opposite. Dispirited and disenfranchised by his terrible leadership, 83% of the voters in Los Angeles chose not to participate in the March election and did not bother to go vote. The media was partially to blame for this, as they heralded their trumpets about how majestic and unbeatable the Mayor was. Columnist after columnist preached from the liberal rags about how Villaraigosa would dominate the election. When two geniuses on the editorial board of the LA Times told me that they thought Mayor Villaraigosa would get 70 to 80% of the vote, I suggested to them that they needed to reduce their intake of marijuana.

Of the 17% who actually showed up on election day, the Mayor carried the city by winning 55% of those votes.
55% of 17% works out to about 9% of the registered voters. So...our magnificent Mayor, with his millions of dollars of campaign money...and his unprecedented access to media coverage...and his fawning, disgraceful coverage by the biased left-wing liberal media...the best he could do was to get 9% of the registered voters to get out and support his re-election. Considering the fact that many of the votes for the Mayor came from City employees and union members  who, in one way or another, depend on him for a paycheck, the 9% of the vote begins to look even less impressive. His four years of being in charge of the City clearly did not impress many here in Los Angeles. 

I felt the election was a gross perversion of democracy. I blame this on two people. Mayor Villaraigosa and his genius hatchet man, Ace Smith. It was unprecedented what happened in the Mayoral campaign here in Los Angeles in March of 2009. Because the Mayor was facing opponents who had very little or no money to spend on their campaign, he and Ace Smith decided that they wouldn't have to run an actual campaign. They figured...the less coverage, the better. Villaraigosa didn't even open a campaign office until about one month before the election. He refused to appear at any event with any of the other candidates, thereby effectively denying us any media coverage. I think this is unprecedented in American history, where the leader of one of America's largest cities could just refuse to appear with the other candidates for his office. You didn't see James Hahn pull that type of bullshit when Villaraigosa wanted to take his job away from him in 2005. Nope, James Hahn acted like a man...like a responsible professional, and he gladly answered questions at various forums against his opponents  in the 2005 Mayoral election.

Villaraigosa -- who has to hide from voters now -- did not offer his opponents this opportunity because he lacks class and dignity. He lost tens of thousands of votes by the way he treated the voters here. He refused to appear at hundreds of events that all the candidates had been invited to attend. The other candidates and I became very accustomed to hearing upset forum speakers and organizers talking about how the one very important candidate had refused their invitation and would not be answering questions today. It came to be a standard speech that the other candidates and I would be able to memorize by the end of the campaign.

So, the Mayor who only does his job 11% of the time got 9% of the registered voters to vote for him.
Does this sound like someone who should be in charge of the second largest city in America?

I don't think so. As of right now I am not convinced there is enough of a passion for a recall action against the Mayor. Look at how disinterested voters were in the election. However, if someone wants to lead the charge, I am willing to participate in the action. I honestly think the City cannot afford four more years of Antonio in charge. He has the City paying his daughter 68K a year to be some type of "field representative" even though she has no college degree and no qualifications. He gives Councilman Alarcon's daughter a fancy job on the Taxicab Commission. Sure...that's right..because she's an expert on the taxicab business. I guess.

 And people wonder why the city is 500 million or maybe even a billion dollars in the red.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, there is no one more qualified to lead a recall election than the man who got fewer votes than anyone.

Phil, wise up. The reason why people asked you to "lead the effort" is because you are a rube who has time on his hands. They don't want to do it, because they are probably too busy with their lives.

If you think I'm wrong, then tell us why you think they're asking you. All of those westside Republicans who didn't get out the vote for you?

Before you answer, also tell us if you're going to do it or not. Stop writing all of these ridiculous "Last Word on......." essays and take the lead.

June 03, 2009 9:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

938 is spot on.

Phil, please try to think before you write these things. People mention a recall to you because it you have a lot of time on your hands, but you don't come across as hostile.

As much as I dislike Villaraigosa, he was just re-elected a few months ago. It doesn't matter by how much. He hasn't even done anything wrong in this new term because it hasn't STARTED yet. Are you aware of that? The basis for a recall has to be on account of something. And if the term hasn't started yet, there is no basis for a recall.

Is that sinking in at all with you?

I really dislike villaraigosa, but he is fresh off of a marginal election. You need to respect the results. Even if you were to completely disregard the election, it's not going to sweep YOU into office. And since you've declared such dislike of Walter, what's the point? It's not going to happen, so why waste your time?

June 03, 2009 10:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Our Mayor is a failure, it's time for a chnage.

You could get every union member who works for the City and lives in the City to sign a recall petition, no problem.

This guy's not friend to labor, he's just a friend to himself.

June 03, 2009 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Phil,

Who the hell are you?


June 03, 2009 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"He hasn't even done anything wrong in this new term because it hasn't STARTED yet. Are you aware of that? The basis for a recall has to be on account of something."

Umm, the second Villaraigosa is sworn into office he will be doing something wrong, and we have the case and evidence and you know that.

And this is a battle of perceptions to get the only 40,000 signatures needed and a recall petition on Tony doesn't appear to be a tough sell, these days.

A lot has come out since the election. Had the election been today I think we would have a run-off.

You are confusing logic with emotions and people act on the latter.

June 03, 2009 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:12, the time for change is not NOW, it was in MARCH.

The people who cared enough to vote, did vote. Those who didn't care enough chose not to.

You, too, had your chance to encourage your friends and neighbors to vote. If that didn't get you the result you wanted, that's unfortunate. But that's how it works in society.

As to Villaraigosa's first day of the new term, it seems like you have the material, so I heartily encourage you to start the recall election. I will sign it, because I'm confident that you must know what you're talking about. So get goin'

June 03, 2009 10:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boy, the Mayor's staff must not be too busy today. The spin is furious. It is time to consider a recall movement but it must be deliberate and careful so that it can be successful.

June 03, 2009 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa is Spanish for Malfeasance.

There is the (only) reason you need to start the effort.

June 03, 2009 12:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Great, then it is settled. Phil, I second the nomination for you to take the lead.

Don't back off now. It sounded like you were doing just that in your public comment today. Be a big boy and show us that you can lead a project from the start to a SUCCESSFUL finish. I might even vote for you if you can get this job accomplished.

June 03, 2009 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clearly the mayor's staff is afraid of the impact of a recall on his gubernatorial chances and will do anything to snuff this out now.

On election day - we did not know about his budget - we now do.

June 03, 2009 1:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I concur with the idea that it is time to begin exploring this option.

June 03, 2009 1:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


You use that word like you know something about politics or history.

Phil I know you mean well, but you are a political baboon. You are what they call a "rube".

You demonstrate your lack of knowledged by posting a non-story like this cliaming he "ran aay" from other candidates.

Even the greenest political novice knows that if you are in the lead and have the momentum to win, you don't risk it by debating your opponent and giving him/her an opportunity to look like an equal, or better.

Go back to school and take politics 1A or 1B.

THis blog is useless when fools can take our time to post stuff that is so elementary that a school kid knows.

June 03, 2009 1:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What happened to the John and Ken Recall petition? I don't listen to them regularly but a few weeks ago they said to go to their website and sign the petition. They need one millions votes to get a recall on the ballot.

June 03, 2009 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 1:15 p.m.

You are wrong! Villar chose not to accept matching campaign funds -not because he didn't want the money - but because he didn't want to debate Walter Moore!!!! By refusing matching campaign funds, he was not obligated to debate!

How much is AV paying you to monitor MS???? Whatever it is...you are overpaid!

June 03, 2009 1:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hate Villaraigosa as much as the next guy. But whatever he did or did not do in the campaign WON THE ELECTION.

I genuinely hate Villaraigosa. But HE WON.

Still, let's see if Phil can actually do something to show us he can lead and WIN. Show us what you've got Phil.

June 03, 2009 1:42 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

I did speak about Recalling Villaraigosa at City Council today. People are angry about the budget situation. There are many people who now would be willing to align themselves against Villaraigosa since the election exposed Villaraigosas weakness and lack of clout.

First..and most importantly, is the Neighborhood Councils. If I decide to follow through with this, I will be making impassioned speeches to all the Neighborhood Councils that would let me appear before them. I would remind them that Antonio Villaraigosa recently tried to kill them off by cutting 80% of their funding. I will also remind them that his daughter and Councilman Alarcons daughter still draw fat paychecks from the City for doing little to nothing....yet won't be getting deep cuts like the neighborhood councils will.

If each Neighborhood Council could deliver and fulfill a request to go out and get a few thousand signatures, right in their own neighborhoods, then this thing could quickly move towards becoming reality.

Several others would need to be consulted and I think a massive meeting about it would be a good idea. People like Ron Kaye and Soledad Garcia. Radio show hosts like Kevin James and Doug McIntyre might be willing to help. Yes...even Walter Moore can help. His 70, 000 voters could deliver a huge chunk of the support necessary to oust this terrible Mayor.
I think Walter could help...but would he...??
Given the opportunity to help rid the City of Villaraigosa would seem like a natural fit for him.

I am probably taking for granted that I can count on David "Zuma Dogg" Saltsburg to hit up his frequent hangout of Venice to prod surfers and skaters for signatures.

It is true that as candidates for Mayor, we didn't deliver a message that made people excited enough to go out and vote for us...but if we give the voters of this City the chance to give a single thumbs up or down on Antonio, I think the City will turn out in much larger numbers.

June 03, 2009 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes you DID infer that at city council today phil.

You talked about what percentage of votes that AV got, and how few people voted. If you didn't say it explicitly, you definitely implied it.

But so what? You are talking about it here. Don't go calling for something, and then say that you don't want to do it. That someone else should do it.

And why would Walter ever do SHIT with you, after all of your bullshit "Last word on......." entries. Why would Gordon Turner? Why would Zuma Dogg? You are not an answer person. You are not a leader. You want to come up with an idea, but have someone ELSE do it?

With all of your bitching about your awful showing in the election, one would think that you are anxious to show everybody what Phil Jennerjan can do.

But no, now that you think about it, writing those entries were really stupid because you could not see the big picture. You couldn't see that maybe you'd need to work with some of these people in the future. They would be idiots to partner with you on anything, given your track record of failure and attacking people who didn't deserve it.

Aren't you the leader of the west side repubLICKans? Where is your initiative to prove yourself, Mr. Mayor?

June 03, 2009 2:37 PM  

Blogger Foxy LA Lady said:


Here's how I see it. Let's think back and remember four years ago, when the mayor had his big ceremony as the second Latino mayor in L.A. history. All the hardworking Latinos who deserved a little respect found their leader. Many Angelinos were proud of the mayor for the things he promised to change. Church leaders listened to his promises, schools looked forward to a new leader and the people were proud to see the mayor with his former teacher who inspired him to become something.

That's what it looked like. In reality however, here’s what it was: The voters got emotional over the nixing of Chief Parks second term. This split the black voter base established many years ago by the late Kenneth Hahn. Now it was payback time all over again over Parks, but this time the voting sentiment was "anyone but James Hahn, we'll deal with the consequences later." This is no way to vote people! But this is what happened. The Rampart scandal which happened under Parks watch has cost the City of Los Angeles close to $95 Million. Yes my friends, Rafael Perez has pulled quite the number on us all. The worst part is no one talks about the fact that Parks was the one who exposed Perez. But why bother now right? Parks is a wonderful councilman.

When the press was brainwashed enough by the A.V. spin team, they hoisted A.V. up on a pedestal and acted like the election of Hahn vs. Villar was a historic moment and how the city would now be saved by a former drug dealer, gang banger, four-time bar exam failure, who no one knew at the time was porking around on his wife with a Telemundo reporter. Former mayor Hahn would be “thrown out of the city by the voters” and “Antonio” and his big toothy grin was going to save us all.

And so we watched as he hid behind the curtains in the mayors office during the immigration marches. And we watched as he filled potholes in the yellow jumpsuit, filling the holes with a shovel. We watched his best pal Martin Ludlow get thrown out of city hall on felony charges and we watched as his Telemundo girlfriend wrecked his marriage on the air. We watched as he failed to take over the schools, we watched as he hiked up the trash fee for new cops and fell short of being able to use the funds because it was unconstitutional. We watched as the new one million trees never came and we watched as he tried to get the taxpayer to pay for Measure B, which also fell on it’s face. We watched 600 marijuana dispensaries opened without Chief Bratton’s recommendation that they be kept 1000 feet away from schools or youth centers and we watched the mayor do nothing. Now we have marijuana dispensaries right in front and next to our schools. We listened as he stated that he loves our city and how he will be here as our mayor fulfilling his commitment to the voters. We listened as he apologized for cheating on his wife and now we watch as he makes a further mockery of his family by porking around with a KTLA reporter as his divorce awaits its conclusion. We watch as he makes the cover of L.A. Magazine as a "Failure." And now he really thinks he’s electable in a race for governor?

Hey! Wake up snapper heads! Is this who we want in our churches, in our schools, in our community, making promises we can believe in? This mayor has had it. He is finished. He is no contender and no one can breathe life into this mess anymore. It would be like teaching a pig to sing. You waste your time and it annoys the pig.

Be done with Mr. Villar, L.A. voters. No woman should ever vote for him again except for his recall.

June 03, 2009 2:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Foxy, a recall isn't even going to be attempted. Don't be dumb like Phil.

What, you are going to recall him before the term even starts? On what basis, Phil? On what BASIS? Because enough people didn't vote? Show us where that allows the vote to be vacated.

What about MY rights to have MY vote count? On what basis do you want to undo MY vote?

June 03, 2009 3:07 PM  

Blogger Foxy LA Lady said:

3:07PM This is not my first Rodeo. Whenever the time is right. I'm not in a rush. ;-)

June 03, 2009 3:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:58 Foxy Lady

You hit it right on the nose with the Midget Mayor Turd that just won't flush down the drain!!!

The clear record as a loser-prevaricator!!! I wish I had the time to lead a recall of this swine. All of you asses that have the nerve to support this flith make me sick.


June 03, 2009 3:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Maybe the first thing phil should do is admit that he was narrow-minded to attack the other candidates. Phil was foolish and should apologize to each of them, and post it on the blog, NOT HERE IN THE COMMENTS SECTION, but up front so others who don't go to comments can see it. As prominently as his attacks.

June 03, 2009 3:22 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

OK everyone, I called the City Clerks Office.

1) We would have to form a group and announce the recall drive. Public notice, etc...formal declaration of our intent to recall Mayor Villaraigosa. Publication notices.

2) From the time we declare, we have 120 days to get the necessary signatures. So we need to have an organization up and ready when we announce.

3) We have to wait until Villaraigosa has been in office (new term) at least three months...which means sometime in the fall.

4) Petition signatures..the BIG headache.
I hated getting over 500 for me just to run for Mayor...we need a massive amount for the recall. 15% of the registered voters in Los Angeles. There are 1,596,225 registered voters in Los Angeles. 15% of that is 239,434. That is a daunting number.

5) However, I don't believe in impossible. Breaking it down into council districts, that would only be an average of 15,962 signatures from each council district.

6) There are usually several homeowners associations and Neighborhood Councils in each district. Breaking it down into smaller sizes...if we could get 200 people to each go out and get 100 signatures from their neighbors, we could do it. We would need to use voter data to make signatures were correct and legit.

7) We would have months to collect them. We could have people do it over several weekends... or even faster, just call them and ask them to stop by a central location and sign the petitions.

8) Have Kevin James and Doug McIntyre continually hype the recall effort for months and urge voters to get to their central neighborhood signature collection center and sign.

9) Set up a website with information and publicize it so people know where to go to sign the petitions.

This is just a loose plan from me, put together in one day.....but I'm just "a rube".

Anyone smarter than me want to add anything?

June 03, 2009 3:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If the Mayor appoints Jack Weiss as head of homeland security for Los Angeles, that will be grounds for a recall.

Our public safety at a time of War is not going to pandered off for a political favor.

Time to start doing the numbers and align supporters.

June 03, 2009 3:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If the unions had known what the budget was going to include for them, the Mayor would not have won in March.

Things have changed in a very short time.

Now all the unions are aligned against the Mayor and if he moves forward with furloughs and layoffs or cuts in services while still letting fat cat donors get lucrative contracts from the City's coffers there will be just cause for a recall -- mismanagement of funds.

By the way, had Caruso run the Mayor would not have had a chance.

Maybe now Caruso will see the opportunity and realize the Mayor's coat tails do not have juice to get him to Sacramento.

Yes we can!

June 03, 2009 3:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, who is this "WE" you keep referring to.

YOU authored this subject, so how about YOU lay all of the groundwork. Not WE, but YOU show some initiative and SAY you're going to do it. Otherwise, you are wasting "OUR" time.

June 03, 2009 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since you are one of the honchos of West side repubLICKans, how about having your organization spearhead the project?

June 03, 2009 4:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Recall! Recall! Recall!

It's democracy in action -- nothing to be afraid of Mayor!

June 03, 2009 4:11 PM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:


You are going to need double that number of signatures to guarantee that at least half are real, registered voters.

June 03, 2009 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's a great point Petra. It shows why Phil came in last place; he can't conceptualize things.

June 03, 2009 4:45 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:


You are mistaken. You are assuming people are going to stand around outside supermarkets asking for people to sign who haven't voted for years and don't remember where they are registered. My attack plan is much more specific...to go after voters at their homes...call them...ask them to sign. The signatures and data will be a match. I learned this the hard way during my run for Mayor. Going door-to-door and using old voter registration sheets I still had from the McCain campaign gave me the highest rate of success.

June 03, 2009 5:48 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

New domain names....




now belong to Phil Jennerjahn.

Guess I have to build the websites and start the ball rolling myself....


June 03, 2009 5:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What is a rube?

June 03, 2009 6:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Contact all of the City's labor unions. They'll help you organize a recall against this labor turncoat.

June 03, 2009 6:15 PM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

I'm just trying to help, Phil.

You're going to have to prove me wrong to prove me wrong.

Fun indeed!

June 03, 2009 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A rube is a greenhorn, an inexperienced fool.

Need I say more?

June 03, 2009 6:53 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

1. Getting the required 239,000 signatures would be VERY difficult, to put it mildly. Some factors that would help are:

a. Villaraigosa announces he's running for governor, which means his opponents might help fund a recall effort just for the bad publicity he would get.

b. The Republican Party of Los Angeles County actually starts acting like a political party, and organizes into action.

c. The police union, flush with its success in backing Trutanich, decides to support a recall.

d. The SEIU joins the fray.

e. People get behind one good candidate, and we don't have everybody and his dog running -- pun unintended -- because that gives the media an excuse to lump 'em all together and ignore them.

2. I am NOT running again. I ran twice. The people have spoken. I effectively gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars of income trying to save this city. Never again.

3. Villaraigosa's position will weaken by November -- which is the earliest this could be done because:

a. We all know he's going to run for governor;

b. By that time, even the most oblivious registered voters of L.A. will start to realize something is seriously wrong at City Hall; and

c. There won't be a state or national election consuming all the political "oxygen," i.e., taking up the time of the "journalists" who pretend to cover local politics.

Or something.

June 03, 2009 8:22 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

P.S. The speaker IMPLIES, the listener INFERS.

June 03, 2009 8:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I called the city clerk's office, the guy told me we only need about 40,000 signatures to get it on the ballot.

Here's something that seems to back that statistic up. Are you SURE?

See if you can pull anything from this:

Page 1
of the total number of votes cast for all candidates for the office of MAYOR [Ch. Sec 451(b)].
of the total number of votes cast for all candidates for the office of MAYOR [Ch. Sec 461(a)].
as of:
City of Los Angeles:
Los Angeles Unified School District:
Los Angeles Community College District:
of the total number of registered voters of the City determined according to the County Clerk -
239,442 **
Registrar Recorder's last official report of registration to the Secretary of State
[CEC Sec. 9255 & 2187].
of the total number of registered voters in the City of Los Angeles to recall the Mayor, City
TBD ***

June 03, 2009 8:56 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

The number of signatures required is different depending on whether one wants to amend the charter, recall someone who holds a city-wide office (e.g., the Mayor), or recall someone who holds a district-wide office.

I believe the 239,000 figure is correct for recalling the Mayor.

Here's the City Clerk's web page re same, and it cites the Election Code provisions applicable to each, which one can also double-check on-line:


June 03, 2009 9:13 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

P.S. For an initiative petition, one would need about 41,000 votes, per the City Clerk page I cited.

June 03, 2009 9:16 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

To: Walter Moore,

As a formal rival for the Office of Mayor, I cordially invite you to draft the official 300 word statement as to why Antonio Villaraigosa should be recalled. I figure with your background and research into the Mayor and his financial shenanigans, you would be a natural to prepare this statement.

I will give you full credit and you can even read it to the media on TV when it gets filed.


a. Prepare Notice of Intention – follow form and wording requirements [EC § 719].
i. Include heading, proponent names, Statement of Reasons (300 words
maximum) and signed Affidavit of Truth.

June 03, 2009 9:31 PM  

Blogger Foxy LA Lady said:

Remember this?

"...Five of Antonio Villaraigosa's constituents want him recalled because he swore up and down after winning the bitter 2003 battle for his 14th district council seat that he would finish his term - then made the mistake in August of announcing he'd rather be mayor..."

Source: http://lavoice1.org/article340.html

...and now that he's mayor, he'd rather maybe run for governor, using the people who voted for him as a stepping stone. Anyone see a pattern here?

June 03, 2009 9:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Prepare a bill from Antonio:

1) Trash Fees

2) Telephone Utility Tax

3) Sales Tax

4) DWP Rate Increases

Then show Antonio's dinner check with $300 bottles of wine and pictures of him with his telegenic girlfriends.

Talk to Riordan and get seed money to do direct mail with return postage for recall (unless law requires specifics).

Do radio ads on Spanish language stations where anger at his divorce is still very, very high among devote Catholics.

Do not relent. He is vulnerable and he knows it.

Mostly, steer clear of SEIU management and go straight to the members. Same with the County Federation of Labor as Maria Elena Durazo will organize to support her Antonio.

June 03, 2009 9:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So Walter, it looks like 41,000 to put the recall on the petition, right? Low voter turn out benefits the people, or at least citizens in this case.

The 200,000+ figure is to amend the charter as far as I can tell.

June 03, 2009 10:24 PM  

Blogger Foxy LA Lady said:

Two more reasons:

1. He cannot represent the women's business community and constituency with the stigma of his conduct towards women.

2. He is morally unfit to represent the church.

June 03, 2009 10:29 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Negative -- it is 15% of the registered voters for a charter amendment OR recall of a city-wide office. It will take around 240,000 signatures, not 40,000.

And Phil, I'm sure you're capable of 300 words on why Villaraigosa needs to go. Include me out. I've done my tour of duty, and then some. I've got a day job and cases beckoning.

June 03, 2009 10:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh shoot...you're right about the 240,000. That's only six times more than what I was told by Clerk office. I'm out.

June 03, 2009 11:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

City workforce: 40,000

Neighborhood Councils: 1,000+

Catholics: 200,000+

Ex-wives and former girlfriends: 1 + ?

The numbers are already there.

Paste leaflets on garbage cans during pick-up days reminding people about the fee increases.

Visualize the logistics, not the obstacles.

June 03, 2009 11:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

“55% of 17% works out to about 9% of the registered voters.”

Just to place the 9% in proper perspective since Villaraigosa is a long time career politician.

Los Angeles Population: 3.8 million
Los Angeles Registered Voters: 1,596,165
9% of Los Angeles registered voters voted for Villaraigosa: 152,613

June 04, 2009 12:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK wait, we should look to the unions to help get a recall going? Who is running the city again?

Let me get this straight, the mayor facing one of the worst budget deficits ever talks about furloughs and layoffs and people want a recall? Give me a friggin break!

We need less goverment employees and unions, not more. There are already enough lazy people sitting around doing nothing.

Phil, you lost me at Kevin James and Doug Macintyre.

June 04, 2009 3:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Stop playing in the sandbox, kiddies, and get real. The best way to get signatures is to pay for them. Generally that costs about $2 per signature so it would take over $500,000 to ensure enough signatures. Eli Broad, Dick Riordan or Rick Caruso could fund that in a heartbeat. So could the Police Protective League, who just spent a similar sum to defeat Jack Weiss.

June 04, 2009 6:59 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

12:12: Bingo. Exactly.

And I blame the local media, in large part, for the abysmal turn-out by L.A.'s oblivious voters.

Did you know that 700,000 more people showed up to vote in L.A. in November 2008 than in March 2009?

If voters know the stakes in an election, they'll show up. But if the media tell them the outcome is a foregone conclusion, and the only alternative is nine wacky amusing eccentrics, well, that's how we get stuck with the career politician who represents only special interests.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, and its a disservice to democracy.

June 04, 2009 8:06 AM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

I'm having a very hard time believing you wouldn't run again if Tony Villar were successfully recalled, Mr. Moore. A very hard time.

June 04, 2009 10:04 AM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

Phil, I'll give you a hand with the 300 words. Here's a start -

Word 1: deficit
Word 2-3: 11% Mayor
Word 4-7: can't keep it zipped
Word 8: union
Word 9-10: pension fund
Word 11: deadwood
Word 12-13: city infrastructure
Word 14-15: la raza
Word 16-17: inclusionary housing
Word 18-19: Mexican mafia
Word 19: rockstar
Word 20-22: "Bank of DWP"

No, seriously Phil. I'll give you a hand on that if you like.

June 04, 2009 10:12 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Petra Fried -- Believe it.

Remember that classic definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

Or, as Mark Twain may have said: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then stop. There's no use being a damn fool about it."

June 04, 2009 7:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is that bad Botox work or has he actually internalized the hopelessness of his political future?

June 04, 2009 11:39 PM  

Anonymous mad as hell, etc. said:

Why a recall? It seems to me that better results might be achieved using the referendum and initiative processes, and less signatures would be needed.

If the initiatives and referendums succeed in tying the hands of council and mayor, then they could achieve the same results as a recall.

June 05, 2009 8:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mini-Mayor is a joke. He has caused the budget mess by letting the city departments hire around 8,000 employees since he has been in office. He was too busy traveling the World and working on Hillary's failed campaign to know what was going on at the city. He also hires general managers at huge salaries (much higher than those with years of service)for political payback for supporting his tired career. Most City employees do not like him. They know he is stupid, frivolous and phony. Let's get rid of him NOW!

October 03, 2009 8:52 AM  

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