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The King of Ramona Gardens: Last night, Councilman Jose Huizar called for an investigation into a police shooting near the infamous project. Huizar looked angry on Fox 11 news; maybe he was plaing to the locals. A man allegedly pointed a gun at an anti-gang officer, and was shot. Daily News reports that the man died of his wound this morning. Tenants at Ramona Gardens say the man did nothing wrong. "The suspect 'was on a bike, and the cops tackled him, and he like got away,'' a boy who saw the shooting told Channel 11. 'And they pushed him by the trailers, and they shot him three times, and he fell.''
Who knew? The former fishwrap of record really goes out on a limb: "Some say downtown developers overestimated demand." That's the top story at the site today. "But there are signs that downtown's residential boom is slowing, if not stalling out altogether."
If Santa Monica feels considerably warmer than usual this weekend, it's because political consultants are holding a convention there, starting today.
We. Told. You. So. The ripoff Prop S largesse won't matter one bit to the City's coffers in the near future. Those of you who were duped into voting for maintainting services: you won't be getting them anyway. Mayor to Managers: Prepare for Layoffs.
David Markland of the erstwhile blogging.la (where there are grumbles about the odd retro site redesign) will start blogging for the peacock affiliate soon, on the State legislature and other state and local matters. He's a little green for that kind of job, but I've always thought he could turn up the heat when he wanted, and now's a big chance. The bridge blog while KNBC sets things up is called California Faultline.
Pols: I don't know about you, but what bugged me most about Samantha Power "she's a monster" story was the fact that the plea "this is off the record" was stitched right into the text, unflinchingly. When doing an interview, I always tell folks in advance that if they want to go off the record, they should say so. If you don't have the same courtesy extended to you, here's a little primer on how to go off the record, at Slate. And remember: you're way less likely to be betrayed by a blogger, who needs to maintain good relationships, than by print.
The King of Ramona Gardens: Last night, Councilman Jose Huizar called for an investigation into a police shooting near the infamous project. Huizar looked angry on Fox 11 news; maybe he was plaing to the locals. A man allegedly pointed a gun at an anti-gang officer, and was shot. Daily News reports that the man died of his wound this morning. Tenants at Ramona Gardens say the man did nothing wrong. "The suspect 'was on a bike, and the cops tackled him, and he like got away,'' a boy who saw the shooting told Channel 11. 'And they pushed him by the trailers, and they shot him three times, and he fell.''
Who knew? The former fishwrap of record really goes out on a limb: "Some say downtown developers overestimated demand." That's the top story at the site today. "But there are signs that downtown's residential boom is slowing, if not stalling out altogether."
If Santa Monica feels considerably warmer than usual this weekend, it's because political consultants are holding a convention there, starting today.
We. Told. You. So. The ripoff Prop S largesse won't matter one bit to the City's coffers in the near future. Those of you who were duped into voting for maintainting services: you won't be getting them anyway. Mayor to Managers: Prepare for Layoffs.
David Markland of the erstwhile blogging.la (where there are grumbles about the odd retro site redesign) will start blogging for the peacock affiliate soon, on the State legislature and other state and local matters. He's a little green for that kind of job, but I've always thought he could turn up the heat when he wanted, and now's a big chance. The bridge blog while KNBC sets things up is called California Faultline.
Pols: I don't know about you, but what bugged me most about Samantha Power "she's a monster" story was the fact that the plea "this is off the record" was stitched right into the text, unflinchingly. When doing an interview, I always tell folks in advance that if they want to go off the record, they should say so. If you don't have the same courtesy extended to you, here's a little primer on how to go off the record, at Slate. And remember: you're way less likely to be betrayed by a blogger, who needs to maintain good relationships, than by print.
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Posted by Joseph F. Mailander @ 3/13/2008 08:13:00 AM
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Jose Huizar, the CD-14 council member, continues to speak to the people, and in so doing, he becomes his own worst enemy again as he decides to surface with a public comment.
This shooting happened last night, but he immediately jumps into the fray with an anti-police attitude, calling for an “independent investigation.” There always are investigations into police involved shootings, but he is already implying that only an independent investigation will show the truth.
The Councilman is either privy to unassailable sources that will show the police to be blameworthy, or he is just inherently dubious of police conduct.
There is barely time to sort out things and yet Huizar has to open his mouth to reveal his true thoughts.
Is it any wonder that police morale is low, that police feel they can't win for losing. A few weeks ago the LAPD lost a fine officer and another was wounded. Is it only when a police officer is shot or dies that any praise is given?
What appears here now is that a man pointed a gun at police and was shot. There might be some concern about why the man was carrying a gun in the first place. Some might consider pointing a gun at police to be an ambiguous act, but most people will consider that action as a deadly threat to life.
Antonio Villaraigosa will never get the promised boost in LAPD recruitment with his protégé (maybe "renegade puppet") jumping into the press with his implied accusations against the LAPD. Why would people want a career that can be ended in an instant, and where instant judgments are constantly second-guessed? But having to watch your back and your front and your side might be just too much for anyone to choose an LAPD career over one in another department.
Maybe, just maybe, this man was entirely responsible for what happened to him. The police have to deal with crime. Could it be that once in while they do run into actual criminal conduct?
Let the investigation(s) determine what happened- and if Huizar is wrong in his insinuations, will he apologize to the LAPD?
Jose Huizar himself as a supporter of Special Order 40 does not do all he can to reduce crime in even the most basic way for the good people in L.A. or in CD-14.
An opinion in CD-14
Most of the residents of the Ramona Garden are gang members or their families. Ramona Gardens is Mexican Mafia headquarters for the members not in Pelican Bay state prison.
So of course if the cops shoot some low-life mexican cholo, the residents say a cop shot an innocent and very good person.
Huziar another dumb-ass mexican politican who will quickly accuse the cops and defend the mexican cholos first, without knowing the facts. I will bet at 100-1 odds the "innocent person" they killed is a Big Hazard (Hazard Grande) gang-member who has a long criminal record.
When the cops killed the low-life Avenues gang memember on Drew St. with an AK-47, some other low-life family member and idiots said the cops killed an unarmed man.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues23feb23,1,196646.story
Several residents interviewed Friday said they supported the Avenues. "I've been here 25 years and they've never disrespected me, said Modesta Hernandez. On the contrary, they protect us. They help us. They depicted the police as hostile and corrupt, and several said the shooting of Daniel Leon was unprovoked, although one neighbor said he clearly saw Leon raise the assault weapon at the officers"
I'm sure Don Quackers will be on here telling us about the racist cops and the good cholo members of Ramona Gardens.
Don Quackers never met a cholo or illegal alien who did wrong or is not a victim of the LAPD, gavachos and republicans.
But ask Don Quackers about the blacks living in Nickerson Gardens and he will tell you about the evils of the "mayates" and changos.
When the LAPD is 95% latino and 95% of the politicians in California are Latino, will Don Quixote still blame the LAPD, gavachos and republicans for the Chicanos problems?
10:55 AM,
Hate is like chewing glass.
Congrats to Markland. He deserves the opportunity.
Green? What the hell are you talking about? I'm a freakin' blogger.
BTW, the site isn't coming soon - its been live and active since last Saturday. So, yknow, feel free to take a look around.
Thanks for the mention!
-Markland
These mexican politicans are really idiots when it comes to lowering crime in Los Angeles. The mexican pandering idiots like Huizar and Villa-Mugoso compalin about gang violence and crime but do nothing to advance the "varrio" gang mentality in Los Angeles.
The mexican baboso politicos are quick to defend the cholos who are all over Los Angeles carrying guns, and they wonder why there are so many gang shootings and killings.
Huizar and Villa-Pendejo you need to get rid of cholos with guns, these are the low-life idiots shooting kids all over Los Angeles. Ramona Gardens is famous for being home to the Hazard Grande street gang, many "made" Mexican Mafia gang members grew up in Ramona Gardens. There have been many gang murders in Ramona Gardens over power struggles within the mexican mafia. Huizar should be forced to walk around Ramona Gardens every night to see the low-life losers he is defending. Huizar go vist Ramona Gardens a few nights or if you are too scared rent the movie "America Me". This place has sold more drugs than Pablo Escoabr ever did. There are generations of low-life loser cholos raised and trained in the Ramona Gardens, maybe Huizar should ask for investigation of the Hazard Gang and mexican mafia in Ramona Gardens.
Keep electing these mexican born pendejos and Los Angeles will be another shithole like Huizar's hometown of Tijuana.
Huizar, eres una desgracia, por favor regresa a tu querido Tijuana, México, la basura de Tijuana te espera.
Correction ...
The mexican pandering idiots like Huizar and Villa-Mugoso compalin about gang violence and crime but do nothing BUT advance the "varrio" gang mentality in Los Angeles.
Jose Huizar himself as a supporter of Special Order 40 does not do all he can to reduce crime in even the most basic way for the good people in L.A. or in CD-14.
An opinion in CD-14
March 13, 2008 10:34 AM
Another opinion...mine says the Huizar will NEVER apologize, he is too self involved to ever admit he is wrong.
Maybe I am one of his ex-employees.
DQ said:
"Hate is like chewing glass."
Confucius say:
Focused criticism with proper venom will silence the racist old cholo.
I remember a little something by the name of "Rampart." I think it involved one, two, three, or all o the freakin division. I agree 100% with the fact that gang members need to be brought to justice. If he had a gun and pointed it at the police, then by all means...enforce the law. What the several ignorant people on this blog don't realize is that LAPD-community relations in Ramona Gardens are at an all-time low. A teenager was runover by the LAPD last year, several residents complain about the LAPD arresting them for no reason (in fact, several have had their charges dropped), working people getting pulled over and intimidated, etc.
Is there a gang problem in Ramona Gardens? Of course there is. Are there good, hard working people living there as well? Of course there are. And these good people--by the hundreds--have raised hell in recent weeks about the police brutality that is occuring inside of Ramona Gardens. Beating up on gang members is one thing, but doing this to everyone in Ramona Gardens?
ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE that argues against this rationale is not a decent human being. I agree that Huizar should not defend thugs, but I have seen the video clip and all he says is "let's investigate the facts." Who can argue that? I realy don't understand why all the negative energy on these blogs. It's my first time here, and if this what "supposed" educated people make out of things, no wonder our city is the way it is. No wonder politicians question their every move. Even when they don't rush to judgement, we pounce all over them. And when they do what we elect them to do, "represent the people" we bash them for this. Regardless of what shady things all politicians do, they sure have a tough job. I doubt anyone on this blog is smart enough (blatantly obvious) to fathom what it takes. Good evening, everyone. Peace and Love.
The dumd ass cholo supporter and enabler, Sr. Huizar should read thee two links below. Too bad the LAPD can't "accidentally" shoot Huizar in the ass where is where is brains obviously are.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-homicides6mar06,0,7827611.story
The 74 killings so far in 2008 mark a 27% increase compared with the same period last year. The jump in homicides has included several high-profile killings, creating a perception of escalating violence.
I'll bet the LAPD has the gun with the fingerprints of the innocent cholo killed in Ramona Gardens.
I'll bet they also recover the bullet fired at the cops, from the gun of the innocent Harazd Grande gang member.
How much information did Huizar bother to "investigate", before saying the LAPD should be investigated.
Huizar get some real facts from other than the gang member's family, before you open your mouth, You Jack-Ass.
The 40th Anniversary of the East L.A student walkouts was a circus or should I say a Greek tragedy. There was enough comedy for the Pocho Hour of power. When I read about it in the paper and watched it on TV, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry...so I did both. It had a cast of characters that included cast-offs, wannabes, has-beens, and oportunistic Latino politicians. These so-called Chicano walkout leaders only come out every ten years; other than that, you never hear about them. Take for example, Bobby Verdugo. This guy's claim to fame is that he is a wannabe comedian, a college drop out, and a convicted felon. Then you have the great Sal Castro, this guy has not done anything since the walkouts 40 years ago. In fact, when 40,000 Latino immigrant students walked out in March 2006 against HR 4437, an anti-immigrant piece of legislation, he spoke out against the walkouts. Maybe he was a little jealous because the student walkouts in 2006 were bigger than those of '68 and he was not asked to lead them. Then there is Mita Cuaron. This wannabe artist is a 55 year old lesbian who wants all drops put in jail..Mita, with an educational system so screwed up, do you blame anyone for dropping out? Next, you have Vickie Castro, wasn't this the same Vickie Castro, who as a school board member was responsible for spending $300 million on the Belmont Learning Complex that never got built because it was built on land that was contaminated? Then you have Big Mamma, Monica Garcia, a 300-pound lesbian leading the march. Other than having a big mouth and eating double cheese burgers with menudo, she has not done a thing as president of the LAUSD Board. Finally, you have the ex-bed buddy of the late, great, Miguel Contreras, state Senator Gloria Romero. This woman has never done a thing for education and never participated in the '68 walkouts. As a matter of fact, she sponsored SB 1381 the Mayor's proposed take over of the LAUSD, which was thrown out by the courts. Her and High roller, Fabian Nunez wanted to deprive voters of an opportunity to vote on the issue. When we finally met the enemy...we realized...that the enemy was us.
East L A has wanted to secede for some time -- what a dream for L A!
Molina discouraged them, concerned they wouldn't be able to provide for their social services, and like other cities, would have to contract for police or sheriff's with Baca or the city. But wouldn't that mean they're paying for the cops from their taxes?
She also fears they couldn't afford to fund a school district, with all those impoverished families. But they'd have Academia Semillas as their own financial burden and joy!
Oh yeah, that's another problem Molina and others pointed out: it's a low-income, low-tax base, area, with a big sucking noise from the city coffers from services.
Maybe Las Villas isn't such a bad idea after all, but only if they secede and take Lincoln Heights and Glassell Park with them!
And think, they'd get to keep "Huizar's Winter Wonderland," El Grito festival and a billion more, all to themselves! Or they could give all their pols the boot and elect their own brand-new Mayor!
4:26pm: Deja vu?
O.K., assuming that you thought that it was so good the first time around that you want to stay with it and paste it into more threads.
At least freshen it up.
I wonder how many billions we spend arresting mexican gang members California and the United States? How many years before we (U.S.) have mexican gangs fighting the army like down in mexico.
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From todays wire services and an FBI Press Release:
Puente 13 members tied to meth ring by Feds
The feds are rounding up Puente 13 members in connection with a methamphetamine distribution ring, according to the FBI.
Already arrested are:
John Antonio Dacosta, 28, Steven Mark Mancha, 34, Ernest George Mancha, 34, and Lenny Robert Casas, 18, all of Whittier; Lorraine Christina Lopez, 34, Josue Deloen, 26, Rene Valdez, 39, Rafael Munoz Gonzalez, 38,
Steven Burgan, 25, Noel Gonzalez, 56, Noel Gonzalez III, 35, Michael Anthony Ortega, 35, Henry Collao, 20, and Joventino Garcia III, 18, all of La Puente; Andy Villa, 27, of Glendora; Hoia Thanh Nguyen, 32, of El Monte; Wayne Arthur Goik, 59, of West Covina; and Antonio Torres, 20, of Phoenix, who was arrested
in Arizona.
From the wire services and an FBI Press Release:
Last December, the Sheriff’s Department created a task force along with the U.S. Attorney’s
Office, DEA and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives, to
investigate the drug and firearms trafficking operations of Puente 13, prosecutors
said.
Puente 13 distributed large quantities of methamphetamine, a portion of which was produced
locally in clandestine laboratories, prosecutors said.
Puente 13 members also allegedly sold cocaine, marijuana and oxycodine in Los Angeles,
Seattle, Arizona, Alaska and North Carolina.
Authorities executed 35 federal search warrants, which yielded one pound of suspected
methamphetamine, 20 pounds of marijuana and 16 firearms, prosecutors said.
“Today’s arrests will severely disrupt firearms and methamphetamine trafficking operations
in the San Gabriel Valley,” said DEA Special Agent Timothy Landrum in a statement.
"Most of the residents of the Ramona Garden are gang members or their families."
....or their families. And since when does being related to a gang member constitute criminal activity? A more accurate version of your statement would be to say that everyone in the world is either a criminal, or is related to one.
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