Rare Joel Stein Reporting Moment in Former Fishwrap of Record
Joel Stein reports it but doesn't say it. In his piece this morning on public comment (which includes a healthy portion of Zuma Dogg) he describes a full City Council meeting---something that hasn't been done in the newspaper in decades.
And even while he's describing the various carnival elements, and how all the real decisions and debate has already taken place elsewhere, he also comes very close to saying what is in fact the only true thing about Council that can be said: that it is not Public Comment that is a farcical carnival, it is the entirety of City Council itself.
Council in session it is fraudulent, absurd, and not at all transparent---and ironically Joel Stein's piece reports it as a circus even while contributing to the absurdist element.
Council gets the public comment it deserves.
And even while he's describing the various carnival elements, and how all the real decisions and debate has already taken place elsewhere, he also comes very close to saying what is in fact the only true thing about Council that can be said: that it is not Public Comment that is a farcical carnival, it is the entirety of City Council itself.
Council in session it is fraudulent, absurd, and not at all transparent---and ironically Joel Stein's piece reports it as a circus even while contributing to the absurdist element.
Council gets the public comment it deserves.
Labels: a guy in la, Los Angeles City Council, los angeles politics
Posted by Joseph F. Mailander @ 1/04/2008 07:43:00 AM
62 Comments:
He obviously went to a Friday meeting where they hand out awards and everyone pats each other on the back. So much time is wasted with those ceremonies.
There are some people who take advantage of public comment. I saw that crazy black lady who is always at the meetings. She got up with the animal people to speak about the issue. Instead of saying she was for or against the animal item, she said she was against beastiality and so was Jesus. All the animal people looked at each other like "who is she?" The woman has mental issues.
Then there's Zuma Dogg. In the beginning he had a real reason to be there. Then he got a big head and started doing the rap dance thing. He was rapping and dancing over our freedom of speech making a mockery of it. He made activists look like nuts.
I'm all for freedom of speech and the Brown act but let's show a little class. Speakers should speak on topic about specific issues related directly to the City of LA. All that showboating is a waste of everyone's time.
First
Stein is off track here - its not public comment that needs to be banned - but proclamations and special moments and all that stuff. Even at full strength Zuma, Matt, Hunt, etc. don't waste anywhere near the amount of time (and I'm not saying they, especially Zuma, waste time but lets just go with that right now for the sake of argument) that the Clowncil does with Mickey Mouse, concerts, proclamations, adjourning motions, bets, etc.
He's right too that everything is worked out ahead of time and business is voted on in such a way that any person such as Stein or even a regular citizen who had never been to a Clowncil meeting, well they'd have no idea what was going on.
So indeed Joe you are right - Clowncil is a circus and public comment is not the problem.
I think 847 has it backwards. Zuma did all the rapping and singing first and later expanded into more topics in greater and cogent detail.
My view is that when Zuma was there just to rap about Venice Beach and incense the Clowncil viewed it as amusing. When he started working with insiders and other activists and dealing with issues such as development, infrastructure, political refom, etc. they got nervous.
Zuma is just the guy to bring the news of the shadiness to the masses.
Sam, you don't get it. It's now how much time collectively zuma, matt and hunt and their camp followers waste, it's that it's ALL wasted, tacky time. The outrageous nerve of him and you (who benefit from hits on this blog from his few nutty followers as well as those who post to tell him to sod off) thinking he's necessary to "educate" the public...
And you havez the nerve to resent some proclamations which usually last a minute or two, to people who have devoted usually years of their lives to truly meaningful projects which benefit the city...while each of these morons gets upto 5 mins/ DAY for their idiocy. Just shows that fools only gravitate to fools.
When proclamations last longer they're either for groups or someone of exceptional value to the community and society, like retiring Ed Guffman recently...Only the craziest egotists can think those three idiots and their clones (the Jabba the Hut lady and her sidekick started showing up daily after zuma did, and they reference him as an example -- though they're not as bad, just annoyingly self- important weird time wasters) are more important and of greater value to society than the relatively few people (or countries) who merit proclamations.
That having been said, the Council and Eric (and a few CMs who like to get down to business) have cut down the number and duration of these proclamations -- which used to be overused by a few CMs (like Janice Hahn, who's also got the most fee waivers from a cursory glance) and they're on Friday's. But to think they take away from the time morons like zuma, matt hunt and their camp followers waste daily and weekly is a negative... Every minute zuma and these guys are there makes our city look like a low-class cesspool and national laughingstock.
And at a time when you losers whine about Council and staff salaries, how much do you think it costs them to endure a collective half hour or so of you morons' daily preaching?
But then you guys delele comments like this -- when comments on a blog don't waste anyone's time since anyone who doesn't want to read them, can skip them -- unlike with the wackos in chambers. Which is why these nutcases might end up jeopardizing public comment for everyone -- since they have no self-restraint.
mayor sam,
Yes, Zuma has gotten more into real issues but he still acts like a fool in front of the mike. He personally attacks city people which isn't polite or effective. I don't think his speaking or blogging has really changed this city for the better. It takes more than blogging and rapping to change things, a lot more.
Au contraire. Were it not for Zuma Dogg I don't think that talkradio hosts like Doug McIntyre, Kevin James, John and Ken, certainly Mr. K (when he was on the air) would be paying as much attention to City Hall as they do.
A 100 years of Leonard Shapiro or Howard Watts never got that. Zuma did it in a matter of weeks.
And now - having received several proclamations myself (anyone who's been to my place sees I have a Richard Alarcon right next to the bathroom) I know that most people deserve them (I'm not saying I do but most do). However these proclamations should be given out at events where people are at (and many are) and not take up meeting time. Unfortunately, as noted about Janice Hahn for example, most of these presentations are to masturbate the ego of the Clowncilperson or pay someone back. And not ALL these presentations are proclamations for Eagle Scouts who help little old ladies cross the street - a lot of times they are presentations and can be anything from parading Mickey Mouse (pointless) to bringing in a parade of speakers to spout off whatever idelogical charge the respective clowncilperson is pushing.
And even amongst the nonsense of Matt and Mike (I don't put them in the same league as Zuma) important issues come up and shadiness comes to light.
See your view is that there is no shadiness at City Hall, but anyone with a brain knows its all shady and practially all the city clowncil members are, for lack of a better word, crooks. We need gadflies to keep an eye on it and bring it to light. How else are we going to know about things like Tennie Pierce, Dirt Burnell, etc.?
"Were it not for Zuma Dogg I don't think that talkradio hosts like Doug McIntyre, Kevin James, John and Ken, certainly Mr. K (when he was on the air) would be paying as much attention to City Hall as they do."
Higby: I'm sure those guys are insulted by that comment. Zuma Dogg is a fool and your credibility, such as it was, has been completely destroyed by defending his moronic act. The reputation of this blog - which rarely elevates itself above the graffiti on a public bathroom wall - has been "shady" for years.
Proclamations and presentations bring the council into the lives of people in the city and give it a human face. They're part of the celebration of achievements by groups of people -- dozens maybe hundreds of hard working, self-sacrificing volunteers and future leaders at a time.
Public comment of the self-serving "look Mom, your boy ZD's on local TV again - that's why I didn't clean my bedroom in your basement today" are about one person's narcissistic abuse of a right intended for the airing of actual grievances, for their own tele-masturbatory delight.
Hmmmm... A) Many people being celebrated for what they do to make this a better city vs. B) a handful of nutjobs croaking redundantly about perceived grievances that have almost always been decided already based on the laws of the city.
I'll take the proclamations and presentations ANY day.
Let's do them TWICE a week!
Has anyone counted the number of 245s applied against Mayor Villaraigosa's corrupt sydicate of commissioners? It's unprecendented. ...the City Council showing some balls and rebelling.
p.s. I'm not a CM Staffer.
12:06, Do you know where the list of 245's exists? Can you direct me to the website, please?
Proclamations and presentations bring the council into the lives of people in the city and give it a human face.
Who are you kidding? It's all about them. Certain people maybe, but not all.
Look we care, We are doing something, Yes we listen, yeah yeah.
When some people are invited to speak or do the pledge of alliance at the Supervisors meeting, it's their people that they are promoting, not necessarily the best or most deserving.
They are using them or their photo op's for their next campaigns.
LA Times said, "Three regulars -- Matt Dowd, Mike Hunt and Zuma Dogg -- started attending...after they'd been thrown off Venice Beach for selling stuff without a license."
Um, excuse me...it was for selling WITH a license. Big difference. That's libel, y'all!
8:47am,
Um excuse me, other way around...FIRST I did the dance and sing thing...THEN, stopped doing that in favor of a toned down approach. Check the facts/video, or ask anyone.
(Nice try, though. Mayor Sam nailed it.)
10:19 said, "still acts like a fool in front of the mike. He personally attacks city people which isn't polite or effective."
[you're spinning. again, been pretty toned down in my presentation (using my politician/dj voice)...and personally attack people at public comment? PLEASE SHOW THE PROOF IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS OR MORE! Nice try! Too bad you hide behind anonymoity, so you are not forced to back up what up say.
Zuma, guess what?
You and your fellow fools have made yourselves public figures by your endless misuse of city resources and time to promote yourselves as "personalities", so anything goes! Anyone can say what they want about you, not just the Times. Bet their attorneys are quaking in their boots, thinking about you and the other Three Stooges going after them like you're harassing the city.
1:15 p.m.
We're pretty much on the same page, but the real "Three Stooges" were only PRETENDING to be morons, so as to make people laugh -- they were really skilled businessmen.
People actually WANTED what they had to sell.
And, they didn't have to PERFORM on "free" "taxpayer" supported TV in order to get an audience.
Maybe the "Three Stooges" lawyers' should consider suing you for libel..
Huizar was outed by Stein for being the fraud most of us already know him to be.
A self-aggrandizing, resume-dropping fraud: Jose Huizar.
Huckabee apparently was involved with an article depicting Bush's foreign policy as an arrogant bunker mentality. Hmmm. So what exactly isn't true about that statement that he's drawing heat for it from his GOP competition? Much as I don't like the guy politically, he does have a annoying capacity to say concise things that assault his political rivals or political inverses in accurate ways.
Let's examine. "If you're not with us, you're against us". Sounds pretty arrogant.
Building a fence on a border. Sounds like 'bunker' thinking to me.
Spending four years ignoring military realities on the ground that they're involved in an counter-insurgency campaign while alienating potential allies. Sounds like both.
It isn't totally accurate. We're doing some cooperative thinking to suppress DPRK (in case no one noticed, I find it much more amusing to refer to N. Korea as the 'democratic people's republic' when it has none of the three in actuality). But in so far as the 'important' direct American threat of global terrorism? We're not thinking very much about going outside of a bunker or we're just doing things arbitrarily.
So I don't see how it's 'an insult to the President' when it seems like a fair critique. Nor do I see that pulling punches directed at the President is very helpful in a democracy. Criticism is supposed to be liberally available for any public figure. Some of it might be useful, some can be ignored, and some is just accurate assessments of personal flaws, like arrogant bunker mentality thinking.
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Section 1076 of the new law “changed more than one hundred years of well-established and carefully balanced state-federal and civil-military relationships.”
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LA Times says, "Zuma Dogg is the undisputed master of the general comment genre".
I'm the "undisputed master", y'all, yeah-yeah!
Big ZD, aka "the undisputed master"!
Zuma Dogg is a fool and your credibility, such as it was, has been completely destroyed by defending his moronic act. The reputation of this blog - which rarely elevates itself above the graffiti on a public bathroom wall - has been "shady" for years.
Conversely, the reputation of utterly anonymous staffers, who can't even bear to sign their names to one true public opinion for fear of risking the wrath of their boss's boss, but who never seem to miss an opportunity to dump on Zuma, continues to shine forth, bringing forward valuable civic polemics daily!
Joel Stein is absolutely right that the City Council has been too generous (read, liberal wimpy) in its too-broad and open-ended interpretation of the Brown Act: he points out that if it did apply to all legislative bodies in California, the State Legislature, Board of Supervisors and other bodies would also allow all these time-wasting and even downright rude gadflies 5 mins./ day each, 3X week. But they don't.
All other bodies have restrictions that are much, much more restrictive in terms of number of appearances, or none at all -- have the City Attorneys check into that, Dion O'Connell. Stop looking so damn tied in knots over how many times these self-promoting time wasters have to be warned, and over how far they can go. Man up to the job. Contact your colleagues at the State legislature, already! (Never mind Rocky's lack of leadership -- go for it.)
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3:02
Is anonymity now presumed to be the equal of "wrong" on the blog or is it just an easy way out of the issue at hand, like "yeah, whatever" -- a tool when the point is annoying, but not something you know how to refute.
For as long as this blog has been running, going back to the "Sacramento Nighties" days and before, whenever the thread writers couldn't really make a pithy comeback, the answer was "well, you're afraid to say who you are, because you work for City Hall."
(I think Ben Franklin started out "anonymous" for the most part, and most people give him a lot of props).
No one really debates (do they?) that Zuma Dogg is to city government what the "Weekly World News" tabloid is to serious journalism. He brings nothing of value. He's the circus act.
And the L.A. Times columnist is a little boy who had a deadline to hit and was too lazy to think of anything more creative. So he decided to "join the club" and just giggle at everything he didn't understand.
But serious news leaked out anyway. The majority of Council's work takes place in committee meetings and in the field, and it's dispensed with in most cases within a few minutes -- because hard work has preceded the bigger meeting.
If I came to any of your places of work when the monthly "staff birthday" lunch or after hours mixer was taking place and decided that's how you conducted business, you'd look even more foolish than he tried to make Council look.
But it's a cheap laugh, and he met his deadline without having to think hard, or really be creative or dig deep on anything of consequence -- and now he thinks he's Steve Lopez.
Honestly, people -- every frat boy Ivy League journalist wanted at one time or another to work for the Lampoon, or Onion.
Most grow out of it, however.
Don't get too jazzed about being the "undisputed master"
ZD. That's a bit like being called the tallest kid on the short bus.
You're moving up fast in the ranking of a sport nobody much plays -- or cares to -- proud to have the largest collection of 8-track tapes on the block.
But nobody wants to listen to them, because they all have I-pods.
jabba the hut lady and her sidekick...lol
and 3.30
when they're writing about you in the LA Times editorial pages, maybe then you'll remove your anonymous mask.
until then you're just another crybaby.
that podium has served its exact purpose as designed. and we set some standards. so we bent some rules. that's good activism. its politics.
bottom line though, don't cry on this blog, go down to the podium and tell them yourself.....
Zuma Dogg iz da undisputed master o' da general comment genre?
"Homey don't play that"
PEOPLE DO NOT GET INTO VOLUNTEERING FOR THE AWARD.
AND NO ONE IS STAYING IN VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'LL GET IT.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GUSHING CMs ON FRIDAYS. OTHERWISE, THEY WOULDN'T RUN TO POSE FOR THE PHOTO OPS.
The city council does waste a lot of time and money all by themselves- all they do has to relate to getting re-elected or moving to the next political office available after they are termed out. Their salaries are the highest in the nation for city councilpersons.
The idea that they are good because they get a lot done OUTSIDE the meetings is not necessarily good. Ethical behavior and fair play are getting to be even more scarce commodities at city- reference to the deception of the "term limits" ballot measure last year, and the "tax cut" requested of voters to establish and expand the cell phon tax.
Zuma's "antics" still must cause some amount of concern, since there is always a lot that the council, individually and collectively, would prefer not be aired in public. The proclamations buy votes and make them look like really good guys.
But there is no payoff for letting public comment happen. There is always the possibility that a verbal potshot might hit it's mark and stir up unwanted trouble, reveal undesired behavior and just simply make trouble they don't want. Proclamations, etc., are "safe" activities and are usually not controversial items that could cause one some serious backlash.
On the other had, issues, actions and policies being discusses might be harmful to these guys to some degree or another. If they cut out the public access for commenting they will be more like the Bd. of Supv. who have a pretty much closed playground to operate in. Their actions brings images of Molina going off on whomever she feels like, rightly or wrongly, but they created the conditions to keep more power.
And about the 24/7 mission of the politician to keep an office- the staff gets the vibe and work to enable this priority as it keeps them gainfully, very gainfully, employed. And THAT is a big motivation- much, MUCH more that what is good and not good for the public.
In that context, Zuma and the rest just get in their way.
IN CD14, a non-fan of mr. Huizar.
The LA Times actually reported on the City Council?
Amazing. Maybe they'll start doing stories about all the corruption in City Hall.
Naaah!
Has anyone noticed how Dion O'Connell literally shakes when he has to grab his microphone?
He's like the kid who insists that everybody sharpen their pencils to the exact same length as everyone else's pencils.
He undoubtedly got pummeled in his youth by the normal kids.
All of the proclamations and commendations are a waste of time. It's ludicrous. It's like when the mayor appoints commissioners and this entire council feels the need to say something. It couldn't be more boring. I remember when that was one item that was over in a minute. I think it's just this particular council. I don't ever remember other councils in the past wasting time taking stands on issues they have no control over. They're just time-wasters and back-patters with big egos.
Who cares about the old black woman. She goes. She gets more credit to me than the lazy ass constituents who don't go to any meetings.
Zuma stays on topic and if you say he doesn't, then you don't attend or watch enough enough council meetings. I don't care what his delivery is. I care about his message. His message is on point and the people who don't like him are scared of him because he's hits too close to home.
Right on Mayor Sam! You said it all in your third post.
Oh anonymous 10:04 poster, you are so wrong. You are way off base. Perhaps you can think of one deserving proclamation. Good for you. I could too if I thought hard enough. But to say that Zuma is just wasting time is dead wrong on your part.
I don't want to hear about "class" either when discussing City Council. Those people are pretty freaking low life. Show some class to them because? Because why? Because they deserve it? Hrrump.. Hardly. I think it's up to each individual person giving public testimony as to how much class they're willing to show. Public comment is public comment. The average person is stupid and that's the truth. Even stupid people get to comment on issues.
12:52
To find a list of the Section 245 motions that have been submitted in the City Council and the votes, go to the city's web site at www.lacity.org and click on Council File Index. In the search box type in SECTION 245.
It's hard to believe that one person spent half a day trying to convince us not to pay attention to Zuma.
Go elsewhere. Go to your fantasy world where all the CM's are there for "us" because we elected them.
Shady? That is an awfully nice word for what those people do.
"Building a fence on a border. Sounds like 'bunker' thinking to me."
^^^^^^^^^
That was the stupidest comment I've read in quite a while.
8:16
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let us formally correct the facts in this article:
1. Matt and Mike first showed up on Jan 29, 2006, with Zuma Dogg joining them a couple of months later early April. 2006. (the law which violated them all was enforced from March.06)
so its 2 years at City Hall this month. [not 1 1/2)
2. all three of them had valid (lifetime)licenses from the City.
3. they were a team, Mike knew the procedures, Matt digested the agendas and regurgitated the language to Zuma Dogg, who effected the delivery at the podium. later others regurgitated info into the bat computer and from thus the Zuma Dogg phenomenon has extended.
this article proves that beyond any doubt!
8:16,
"Homey don't play that"
Astonishing you read at all.
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City of Los Angeles Code of Ethics
Adopted by Council resolution, July 21, 1959 and Amended August 23, 1979 by Council resolution
XII
Activities Incompatible with Official Duties and the Reporting of Improper Government Activities
Persons in the public service SHALL not engage in any improper governmental activities or in any actions or practices which would interfere with the proper performance of the duties of others. Persons in the City service are strongly encouraged to fulfill their own moral obligations to the City by disclosing to the extent not expressly prohibited by law, improper governmental activities within their knowledge. NO officer or employee for the purpose of intimidating, threatening, coercing, commanding, or influencing any person with the intent of interfering with that person’s duty to disclose such improper activity.
I think this should also apply to public comment.
XIII
Loyalty
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Code of Ethics
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9:19 pm,
You're a genius! I hope people in the financial markets read your post and live by it!
AND, thanks to everyone who posted nice comments defending me against jealous, mis-guided, mis-informed losers who still thinks their lies and propaganda can fool you.
(These spinners are the same people who think you will be fooled by Prop S, too.)
But mainly, this comment is to tell 9:19pm I agree wholeheartedly, and hope people with portfolios keep your comments in mind.
I'm up at 4am,
Cold medicine caused insomnia,
ZD still creepy,
That is all...
Doesn't Joel Stein's headline say it all?
Think the public comment period at City Council meetings is useless? Wait until the pols start talking.
What a doofus-douchebag that Kevin Roderdick is at that fluffbag blog of his with his Britney Spears story links.
Here's what Roderdick took out of the LA Times article about City Council's dog and pony shows and time-wasting ass-kissing grandstanding:
_________________________________
LA Unobservant said...
Joel Stein's latest needs-a-column gimmick
[Roderdick's jealousy of everyone else, is already apparent in the headline! Is it automatically a gimmick because it includes ZD? I think your big pumpkin head, and crybaby anonymous postings on this blog are a gimmick.]
RoderDick continues, "He (Joel) appeared at the City Council comment period and for 53 seconds argued that the council stop giving free air time to Zuma Dogg and the other gadflies. Enough for 500 words and this week's column."
ZD says...No you pumpkinhead, fluff-posting, ass-kissing, irrelevant, out of the picture loser.
Did you READ the article? If you are trying to say that article is about, "stop giving zuma airtime" just proves you are a bitter loser, who doesn't comprehend what he reads. Sorry you cant't get an article published in a real newspaper anymore.
You have low reading comprehension you human bobble-head...and now...the whole world knows it.
MORE ON RODERDICK TO COME. He has to learn to keep my name out of his mouth, since he's far too jealous and bitter to be objective.
I hope everyone who thinks Roderick is so great, realizes that is all in the past. And if you want links to stories about Britney Spears, LA Observed is YOUR blog.
Kevin...do you have an opinion on anything, or just link to other stories? Sorry no one talks about you anymore Kevin. Try speaking from the heart, instead of worrying about being a neutered lap-dog, you neutered lap-dog. (lap-dogs don't get two "g's".)
I'll challenge Roderick to an IQ/Reading Comprehension test ANY DAY! (And I'm not trying to say that I am smart. I'm trying to say R-dick is dumb...dumber than ZD.)
New Years Prediction: Will R-dick finally achieve his long lost dream of being published once again (somewhere besides his own blog to links of REAL stories). Do you think anyone will comment in the media on ANYTHING he has done?
And remember, that Britney Spears story link is as LA Observed. (No new info, just a link to the original story.)
And remember Roderdick, the Joel Stein story was about something else other than preventing ZD from speaking. (Ask a fifth grader to explain it to you. You couldn't see through the satire, apparently and completely missed the point.)
Maybe the reason you are such a frustrated loser, is because you have trouble comprehending what you read.
Anyway Kevin, thanks for reminding me YOU have been so jealous of ZD -- since day one. Although I would remind people that my life is nothing to be jealous of -- in your case, i guess you are, anyway. (Call Dr. Phil you DOOFUS!)
Here's the point Roderdick, if you bothered reading the entire column:
LA Times said..."weirdest part of the meeting was that, when I wasn't looking, the council passed $29 million in bonds for affordable housing, gave 11 neighborhoods street lighting for the first time and reinstated commuter express buses. All of which took about four minutes because the details were worked out in committee.
The rest of the three hours was bread and circus. Which I understand is a big part of politics. The rest of the three hours was bread and circus. Which I understand is a big part of politics....A lot of politics is like a kids' soccer league, making everyone feel good about themselves with trophies for participation, good attitude and loving Rosa Parks. Which is really a waste of time"
Do you get it yet, R-dick, or maybe someone else can read it to you and explain, like when someone reads a pop-up book to a three year old.
(LOL! ZD is smarter than R-Dick.)
Kevin, what a compliment! To be called a loser by the Mother of All Losers, ZD himself is really an honor. Cherish it.
This fool, whose real name is Dvid Elliott, has been harrassing the Council fopr almost two years. Now we find that he is nothing more than a puppet and that his puppet masters are Matt Dowd, who reads and "regurgitates" (That also means "throws up") the agendas and Mike Hunt (I laugh every time I write his name) reviews the rules, and the two of them tell Elliott what to say.
I guess they told him to make fun of your name and your excellent blog as well. Pay them no mind, they are all final and complete losers.
Don't worry, Kevin. Elliott has now cast off the two other losers and will now be losing by himself. I expect that he will run out of money soon and go back to huckstering or whatever else he does to put aside the big bucks he invests in the market.
Keep it up Kevin, your Blog is number one in my book and many others as well.
What I want to know is how do these guys Zuma, Mike and Matt all live without having jobs? Zuma is the one I believe has serious issues he researches and speaks out against. Mike and Matt are just two losers jumping on his bandwagon thinking they're rock stars. What do their parents think of them not having a life and not working having respect for themselves being "real men"?
"""""Proclamations and presentations bring the council into the lives of people in the city and give it a human face.""
THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. THOSE PRESENTATIONS ARE NOTHING BUT KISS ASS PAYBACKS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAMPAIGN, DONATE AND HELP THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'RE NOT STUPID AND WE ALL KNOW IT.
ZD is very angry. But it gets Mayor Sam hits.
Why does anyone bother with this outlandish caricature Zuma Dogg?
He clearly lacks any background or knowledge of how things work in Los Angeles, and also lacks rudimentary skills in spelling, grammar, structure puntuation, use of capital letters and just about anything else having to do with the proper use of the language. he clearly did not advance past High School, if that.
He cannot carry a tune, and looks like yesterday's laundry on a skid row alcoholic.
So, what keep him on the blog? Is it this guy Higby everyone talks about, or is it Mayor Sam?
I am confused, but not enough to do my own research. Someone tell me why anyone gives "Zuma Dogg" the time of day.
7.50 am
as it says in the article :
"Batman doesn't say what he does when he's not Batman."
that ought to be the ZD quote of the year already. thanks Joel Stein for reporting it.
we're rotfloao
PS... this council took away our boys' normal daily activities with some bogus ordinance enforced by LAPD.
Joe Mailander got it spot on last line of his best ever thread:
Council gets the public comment it deserves.
What happened to the "ZD is a barrel of warm puke" post?
He is, and everyone knows it. What's the big deal about posting it?
Does everyone have thin skin around here? You don't delete comments that say that about Villaraigosa or Weiss or Garcetti.
But then again, you don't call them by their real names either.
What a double standard. You guys are all Democrats. (I can't think of a worse insult right now)
8:43 knows Higby and Higby knows 8:43. All too well.
9:51 am,
There it is. Your insightful comment about puke. No, I don't call people that kinda stuff. I might call them shady, corrupt, taking money from special interests, promising contract favors if you donate to their private campaign fund, and a bunch of other stuff -- but I tend to try and stick to things about their performance...not that Bababooey, Howard Stern stuff. But I know you have to go with what your emotional and intellectual skills will allow you. We understand. What you are trying to say is, (caveman voice, banging club): "ZD bad...ZD bad!"
LA Times called me the "undisputed master", not you! Don't step!
Emotionally Crippled Loser said...
"You don't delete comments (calling people 'puke')that say that about Villaraigosa or Weiss or Garcetti."
Not only do I not call people that, I have never seen anyone else call them that. And I DO delete posts that cross certain lines about antonio and anyone else at city hall. don't get it twisted E.C.L.!
Zuma has the courage to tell the truth, something that the newspapers have lacked. He makes City Hall transparent and they hate him for that. If all those politicians were ethical they wouldn’t fear him.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE MESSAGE and as long as people understand it, I have succeeded.
The criticism that you inflict in other people only shows that the message is very important and somehow it affects you.
Free speech belongs to every human being, not those that you choose.
“On the altar of God I pledge hostility to any government restriction on the free minds of the people.” Jefferson’s Memorial inscription.]
First nation state to establish the principal that sovereignty and political power ultimately resides on the people
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