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Friday, November 09, 2007

Home Depot no friend to LA

How much does Home Depot care about LA?

Not much, really.

Zahniser: Home Depot sues LA for $10 million

How much should you care about Home Depot?

Why don't you ponder that on your way to Lowe's tomorrow.

This is the biggest bonehead lawsuit a retailer has ever filed against a municipality. It may even get MayorSam himself to finally see the light about Agent Orange and how much they care for the cities they slam down their boxes into.

Sore losers. Sour grapes. Litigious bastards.

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39 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

assholes.

November 09, 2007 2:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

and they will win in court.

November 09, 2007 4:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can all thank Wendy Greusome

November 09, 2007 4:35 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Latham and Watkins is suing because it is their civic duty. It's kinda a class action lawsuit.

Because don't you know the lawsuit also said that, "the vote will have a citywide effect on the business climate, warning that 'unsightly vacant and deteriorating buildings will continue to plague the city because businesses will be too afraid to invest.'"

So good for L&W for taking a stand against plague. That's why they want to build a Home Depot, right? To renovate deteriorating buildings so business are not afraid to invest.

GOOD FOR LATHAM & WATKINS FOR ONCE AGAIN BEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ISSUE? (Didn't they put Antonio into office? Aren't they gonna run him for governor if he gets the SW Museum and Grand Ave Projects done.

November 09, 2007 4:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

the lawsuit is hysterical! wait till you read it!

November 09, 2007 4:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gee, if I wasn't already on permanent boycott of Home Depot, I would start!

On the news this afternoon:

L.A. City Council just gave many of us a new FAVORITE word to use!

November 09, 2007 4:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

so lets put two and two together:

if the City could only learn how to avoid these costly lawsuits everywhere, then they wouldn't have a budget crisis, we wouldn't need a phone tax, and we'd still get more cops.

oops, I forgot, it was THE COPS who triggered that latest big wave of May Day lawsuits.

the worst thing is that Bernie Parks is chair of budget committee, yet he's also the most complacent over litigation.
that don't add up.

NEWSFLASH TO BERNARD C PARKS: the phone tax is gonna lose, then whatcha gonna do?

November 09, 2007 4:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think the cholo mayor should take some of his cholo friends from East Los Angeles and vist the Home Depot Attorneys,

The cholos know how to stop a witness and any further legal action.

Lets all write the mayor and have him put the cholos to work saving the city some money.

November 09, 2007 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

POOR POOR BITTER BERNIE. Looks like he has failed again.

LAPD Cleared To Hire As Many Officers As Possible

(AP) LOS ANGELES The City Council has given the Los Angeles Police Department the go-ahead to hire as many officers as it can this fiscal year.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa says he is "elated" with the action. He had campaigned on a pledge to hire as many as 1,000 more officers. He had also threatened to veto any move by the council that would limit new hires this fiscal year, which started in July.

The plan approved by the council will give the LAPD the ability to hire as many as 780 new officers this year. That would be a net gain of 226, after retirements and attrition are factored in.

November 09, 2007 5:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just like those Prop R opponents:

"Sore losers. Sour grapes. Litigious bastards."

November 09, 2007 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Only Latham could file a lawsuit because a councilperson was representing constituents instead of representing Latham (as is the norm).

November 09, 2007 5:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There's a letter to the Editor in today's Times, rebutting Walde's claim that homeowner groups are playing an ever more vital role.

The new word for them is CAVE, Citizens Against Virtually Everything

"Thus far their record suggests that they will be a negative force, impeding almost any effort to improve the city."

How the tide has turned against NCs, especially since Sunland- Tujunga. After they had their permit pulled after claining they were 90% finished, other Walmarts and HD's and big box stores pulled out of talks with L A. And that's too bad, since areas like Perry's turn out for an opening of a Ralph's like it's the Oscars.

Wendy follows with a letter denying HD's claims that she both advised community groups in how to oppose them to get her support, and then sat as "judge and jury" over them.

She should pay for this lawsuit out of her reserves -- how much does each CM get? She's on the Budget Committee, let her and Bernie deal with it.

But leave the trash fee hike alone.

Cardenas today in Council was angry that the Daily News and the Mayor's supporters ever claimed that Bernie was planning to divert the trash tax for the general budget, or was ever critical of the LAPD.

That's strange because on Wednesday Bernie clearly led CEO Karen Sisson to say what he wanted her to: that it would be illegal to designate the trash tax hike toward cops, since it was written as going into the general fund.

Yes, Eric had agreed earlier -- but he and Rosendahl said their district was definitely expecting on the Council to deliver on their word to use the money for cops.

What's Cardenas' problem? Seemed like he's just mad that the middle classes aren't as easy to fool and lie to as he and Bernie had hoped.

If you promise them more cops on their streets in exchange to raising their taxes some $240/year then they will hold them to it.

The Eastside and South Central have the bulk of cops already. Like Rosendahl said, the "rich" areas are docked cops because they don't commit as much crime. But despite the private security everyone hires on the westside and west valley, robberies are still up and there's a 10minute response to serious crime reports.

These people see it as, if they had their houses and paid their taxes in San Marino or Santa Barbara, they'd be getting their kids great schools, good streets and sidewalks, and the cops would respond promptly.

Cardenas and Bernie and their group see it as, those people are "lucky" so they should just pay up and shut up. Alarcon also lashed out at the Daily News for "dividing our city again."

The "rich" have been concerned with pulling up the rest of the city for so long, it's time for Cardenas, Parks and their side to see how the other side thinks. Compromise can't just mean the "rich" doing what the East and South demands.

November 09, 2007 5:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Home Depot need to sue someone so that they can pay the $10 million that California fined them for environmental disaster that they caused. It's strange how the fine and the lawsuit amounts match. Get it from LA to pay the State. How stupid are these guys at HD. If I was a share holder in HD I would be asking some serious questions about this management team.

November 09, 2007 6:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City will win this suit, no problem.
HD will have wasted even more money on a project nobody wants. This will only serve to alienate the City in any further projects by HD. What a bunch of dumbshits.

November 09, 2007 7:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Where's Mirthala?

November 09, 2007 8:36 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

This is really about the stupidest thing Home Depot has done to date.
I thought busing in paid supporters was as bad as it could get, but this takes the cake!

November 09, 2007 8:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You think HD trying to recoup its investment of some ten million so far, wasted, is dumb? And it's looking at an EIR of what, thirty million plus years of delay? Only thing that was dumb is Wendy's caving to the NC over city staff. To stave off a win, they have to point out phony supporters of bused-in workers, or prospective workers, lobbying by Alatorre and others so hard they had to be kicked out of chambers in the back, so smug they'd taken that over.

Paint a picture of HDs arrogance.

Otherwise this IS a stupid attempt by Wendy to override laws. Let Zev propose his amendments to current building procedures and approvals == until then, the law applies.

So many CM's are barely literate, this is beyond them.

November 09, 2007 9:27 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

It was HD that got caught breaking the rules on the books. Greuel has simply insisted that they follow the existing laws and procedures.

November 09, 2007 9:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boycott Home Depot... shop at OSH! They're a bit more helpful at OSH...
Help at Home Depot? pahhh!

November 09, 2007 9:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nobody will win the lawsuit because it will never go to trial. The suit is goofy because it doesn't matter. The goal was to file any kind of a suit so that the matter could be discussed behind closed doors by the City Council. There was more than one City Councilmember who voted publicly to support Wendy, but who knew that a lawsuit would result. Now they can fold as part of the settlement discussions. Home Depot doesn't want the money. They want the permit.

November 09, 2007 11:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1137 Bingo.

And it even gives Wendy cover to fold.

If they dropped their pants for Tennie Pierce, in this case they'll get naked.

November 09, 2007 11:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Council getting naked? Gawd, what a revolting picture!

November 10, 2007 1:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've a question for Captain Sparrow: I notice that it's illegal in England to die in the Houses of Parliament as the one dying is subject to arrest.

Has anyone in his crew eaten a mince pie on Christmas Day? If they have, they could be subject to arrest.

What other dumb laws have we here, besides driving on the wrong side of the road, according to you Brits?

November 10, 2007 1:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Agent Orange"? Brilliant descriptor
Joseph!

November 10, 2007 3:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you all are stupid, HD did what they were supposed to do. It was CM that pulled back the permits and turned it into a big mess. HD will win a lawsuit if it ever goes to trial (they will settle). on the other hand, Wendy has her constituents happy and they vote for her again, what a great indirect campaign contribution and at what price tab. The city is so unfriendly to businesses its sickening

November 10, 2007 5:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Home Depot Lied, a small town almost died. The small town won and now Home Depot cries. Poor HD, poor, poor HD!
They just keep throwing more money
at the mess they created, hoping the problem will all go away.

November 10, 2007 5:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:56, HD has deep pockets, apparently. I'm sure HD has taken its cue from our City and State "leaders" who throw more money at problems in the hope that these problems will go away.

Two cases in point: at the State level, it's education; at the City level, it's LA Bridges.

Maybe HD has some former City and State officials advising HD that this is the logical way to proceed. Your comments?

November 10, 2007 10:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No one was to worry. Home Depot is shooting itself in the foot. They want to become so big and they will. Then they will not be unable to maintain with more expenses and no new customer base.

Get it? They will become so big they will go out of business. I guess they are not that smart. And best of all no one has to do a thing about it, they will do it to themselves. This market is already overcrowed. So, let them do was they wish. They will just go out of business on their own.

November 10, 2007 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I wouldn't expect any monetary action on this at all.

HD will file and very quietly settle the suit, probably for nothing other than a couple of new locations promised.

Otherwise, it's $10 million worth of even worse publicity and a red flag to any community that they may be dealing with in the future.

Bad biz, there, HD. Very stupid move.

November 10, 2007 9:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Kudos to Councilmember Wendy Greuel.She did exactly what her constituents elected and expected her to do - support her community. It's incredible that a major business such as Home Depot and their idiot law firm doesn't understand that!
Shop at Lowes, Do-It-Center, OSH, any place but Home Depot and their inferior service, community involvement and refusal to honor Sunland-Tujunga's Foothill Corridor Business Specific Plan (It's an Ordinance!).Don't ever forget their unethical, sleazy tactics. A general merchandise store in stead of Home Depot in Sunland-Tujunga is not going to hurt L.A.'s business environment. Those persons saying so can't possible believe anyone is going to buy their hype. Most people are not that stupid. Good-by Home Depot!

November 10, 2007 11:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon in the short time he's been on council has proven to be a complete moron. Listen to him speak and you will know he sounds like an uneducated fool. He stands up and panders to the cameras yet he doesn't say anything meaningful. For being a Senator and former council member he's an embarrassement as far as knowing how the process works. Many of his constituents already are calling him a joke. Unbelievable these clowns get elected.

November 11, 2007 7:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I always shop at Home Depot. Yesterday I found a Lowe's almost as close to me. I'll continue to shop at Lowe's until HD drops their lawsuit. It's my money and I'll choose where to spend it. It's one of the few bits of control I have left in this ever mindboggling city.

November 11, 2007 8:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon is indeed dumb, and panders to his Hispanics ONLY, calling L A "the capitol of Latinismo" with no boundaries between US and Latin America, so we owe it to all illegals to give them free health care -- since they're bringing their diseases up north anyway. (That they are, like chingas -- a deadly insect-born disease necessitating a facility in Sylmar just to treat these immigrants at huge expense.) Sensible solution: keep out these illegals and their diseases, or bill their home countries for their care.

Ditto with their uninsured collisons (we have to buy Mexican auto insurance or are JAILED if we don't pay cash for any accidents), schools, ER care etc.

Plus he panders to the unions, especially those employing Hispanics.

Then he and Cardenas lash out in support of Parks at the Daily News (boy, do they hate the Daily News) and Westside and West VAlley CM's for "trying to divide our city," like over swiping the trash fees to put more cops into THEIR Mexican and black neighborhoods. Clearly Parks, Cardenas and Alarcon were hoping the middle class was as dumb as THEIR own constituents, and would forget promises made to them. But sorry for them, it's not quite as easy to steal from the slightly more educated classes.

Reyes seems like he's actually trying to understand the other side but is also demanding social services for his district and calling East of Alvarado narrow- minded and uncaring.

Break up the city into east and west, but first and foremost, do it to LAUSD on a smaller basis: give the Hispanics, blacks and all the others separate mini-districts on a par with their NC boundaries. AND make sure each area funds its own social services and schools.

November 11, 2007 2:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City is on good ground to win this lawsuit. City Council merely ruled that HD was improperly given a building permit with no environmental review and by ignoring the applicable specific plan. It was not a final denial of HD's project. It was not a final decision. The case is totally premature and the City Attorney can easily defend it.

The theory that City councilmembers will cave to Latham & Watkins attorneys in private settlement discussions would be an outrage. And if Rocky is complicit, it demonstrates the complete lack of public responsibility at our City Hall. If Latham can just buy politicians like Rocky with campaign contributions (legalized bribery), then I guess the City is lost.

Wendy is right. If Latham can sue her for merely being responsive to her constituents (instead of the usual politician blowjob of Latham attorneys) then our City Council has no power to formulate public policy.

Latham, and other law firms representing big developers, are out of control and a scourage on our City's political decision making process.

November 11, 2007 5:44 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

5:44, you nailed it!

November 11, 2007 7:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City always refers to Home Depot as a big tax base.
How much money do they cost the city?
Wasting City Council Member time?
(Lobbyists)
Extra Police Presence,
Increase in crime around H.D. Stores.
Illegal alien issues,
Street cleaning and trash pick-up from all of the loitering,Vandalism
27 meetings with Building and Safety regarding the S-T permits,
toxic waste issues,
Lawsuits,(ALL ISSUES)
Discrimination,illegal disposal of chemicals,Illegal transportation of chemicals,Shady contractors,Etc..
Now city attorney's
Air quality issues,
DANGEROUS store fires,
Paramedics to pick up the injured customers.
We won't even go into the dead ones.
Amazing the information the internet holds.

November 12, 2007 4:10 PM  

Blogger Unknown said:

4:10pm, Let's not forget the loss of tax revenue created by all the stores and home service contractors driven out of business.Also, since our community spends, tons of money in the neighboring cities of Burbank, Glendale, and Pasadena for general merchandise, the City of LA is losing
those much needed tax dollars.

November 12, 2007 4:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Idiots, all the people who think that the City will win the lawsuit by Home Depot. The City did not apply the same standard to this change of business that it would of used in other circumstances. This unequeal treatment will result in a win by HD. But, it will never get to court the City Council will be told by the City Attorney that they were wrong and the permits will be issued.

All of you crazy "closet socialist" activists who think that you can dictate what business should move into an abandoned store will be in for a surprise when you see the Home Depot open and full of business. The average person doesn't care about this issue. I will assure you that this Home Depot will be full of "normal" Sunland Tujunga residents when it does open. Yea, there may be a few unstable residents protesting in front of the store when it opens, but in six months they will be gone and the store will serve the neighborhood, just like any other Home Depot.

November 12, 2007 9:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City will win this lawsuit.
It's a no brainer.

November 12, 2007 9:29 PM  

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