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Saturday, October 20, 2007

Centennial Celebration at Southwest Museum


EGP News Service

Los Angeles’ first museum, The Southwest Museum of the American Indian, will celebrate its 100-year anniversary on Sunday, Oct. 21, with an open house and a program for the entire family. The free celebration will take place from noon to 5:00 p.m., and will feature musical entertainment, food, and special behind the scene tours of the historic facility.

Perched atop Mount Washington in Northeast Los Angeles, the museum, founded in 1907 by Charles Lummis, has been undergoing a program of restoration and renovation of the physical structure and collections of Native American artifacts and artwork, one of the largest and most extensive collections in the country, under the direction of the museum’s current owner, the Autry National Museum of the West.

The Southwest Museum holds one of the nation’s most important museum, library, and archive collections related to the American Indian. In addition, it has extensive holdings of pre-Hispanic, Spanish colonial, Latino, and Western American art and artifacts, spanning 2,000 years. For nearly one hundred years it has supported research, publications, exhibitions, and other educational activities to advance the public’s understanding and appreciation of the Americas, with particular emphasis on the western United States and Mesoamerica. The Southwest Museum is located at 234 Museum Drive in Mt. Washington and is easily accessible via the Metro Rail Gold Line, which stops directly across from the museum.

****Join the "FRIENDS OF THE SOUTHWEST MUSEUM" for a 3:00 PM rally at the "mural" on Marmion Way.****

The battle for the integrity of the Southwest Museum and preservation of Griffith Park are now "ONE IN THE SAME". Activists in Northeast L.A. and Griffith Park must unite in protecting our cultural icons.

Col Griffith and Charles Lummis are counting on all of us to protect their civic gifts.

57 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Members of the Los Angeles press will be shocked to learn that going to an event at the Southwest Museum does not always involve having to pass two guarded checkpoints and a determination that you are on the list of people "allowed" to come to a an event with Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Councilmember Jose Huizar.

Yes, this Sunday, anyone can walk onto the SW Museum property. They can even go on a behind-the-scenes tour where the Autry will tell them everything about saving the Collection and nothing about the REAL future plan of Autry for the Southwest: to sell the building away for the highest price possible once they take the Collection to Griffith Park.

Why else would the Autry put on a flashy press conference at the Southwest Museum on September 27th trying to create the impression that the Autry has a concrete plan to save the Southwest Museum while at the same time Latham & Watkins, PCR Services Corporation, and the City Department of Recreation and Parks write and issue a Draft EIR for the expansion in Griffith Park that DENIES there is any plan for the future of the Southwest Museum?

Why is it that Autry and Latham & Watkins refuse to acknowledge that the removal of the Southwest Museum's world-class collection to Griffith Park will have a negative effect on the National Register of Historic Places significance of the Southwest Museum? Could it be that Autry does not want City officials to understand that approving the expansion in Griffith Park will ENABLE and ASSIST the Autry in its effort to breach Merger Agreement promises to preserve the independence and separate identity of the Southwest Museum?

How much did Autry and Latham promise the Mayor for his help in screwing over his neighbors and friends from his old neighborhood? What was Huizar's price for going along and not fighting for the museum?

The potential and totally preventable loss of the Southwest Museum is about to become a visible symbol of the utter corruption of our City Hall.

Oh, sorry members of the Press. Sorry for interrupting your snooze over this story.

October 20, 2007 8:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"A totally preventable loss of the Southwest Museum HAS become a visible symbol of the utter corruption of our City Hall."

The takeover of the Southwest Musuem will enable Autry to DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE AUTRY IN GRIFFITH PARK.

By placing the Southwest Musuem artifacts in the Autry, the Autry hopes to be "certified". This will enable them to get millions more in funds for building the building additions including the monster of a multilevel parking lot and and upscale restaurant. Naturally, the Freeway entrances will have to be adjusted and all the surrounding roads will have to be widened.

Each one of these people has SOMETHING TO GAIN by moving the Southwest Musuem artifacts to the Autry .

Honorary Charter Members
Congressmember Xavier Becerra
Senator Gil Cedillo
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez
Assemblymember Anthony Portantino
Supervisor Gloria Molina

THE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTE
Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa
Council President Eric Garcetti
{Councilman Tom LeBonge}
Councilmember José Huizar
Michael Alexander
Al Nodal
Richard Montoya
Herbert Siguenza
Ric Salinas
Linda Dishman
Suzanne Lummis
Paula Starr
Colleen Colson
Duane Champagne
Pamela Villasenor
Anthony Morales
Cynthia Ruiz
Carol Jacques
Tony Scudellari
Bill Rumble
Grayson Cook
Pat Griffith
Natalie Seaman
Eliot Sekuler
Jenny Krusoe
Jim Thompson

ALL TRAITORS TO CD14

October 20, 2007 10:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

if you have some thoughts on this thread topic, make sure you don't somehow find a reason to drag me through the mud with lies and propaganda. someone called "A True Local Resident" posted a really well written comment regarding SW Museum/Autry/Griffith...

But for some reason, ZD was tied into it all, somehow.

SORRY CHARLIE! Try reposting without the propaganda against ZD.

(I mean, this isn't even my thread...but somehow it's all about ZD???) Try again "A True Anger-Management Problem Resident."

October 21, 2007 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GRIFFTH PARK ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORT SW MUSEUM REUSE/EXPANSION
(Northeast LA residents can organize to spread the word -- see below)

Greater Griffith Park Neighborhood Council has joined other City of
Los Angeles Neighborhood Councils and the Friends of the Southwest
Museum in demanding that the City Recreation and Park Department give
a more careful and complete analysis of continued use of the
Southwest Museum as the primary exhibition site of the Southwest
Museum collection. The Neighborhood Council calls this a reasonable
alternative to Autry's proposal to expand in Griffith Park.

This development is significant because the Greater Griffith Park
area has previously been reluctant to openly criticize the Autry as
the Autry Museum auditorium is frequently used for homeowners
association and neighborhood council events. However, in its letter
to the City Recreation and Parks Department, the Greater Griffith
Park Neighborhood Council reports that it has never been given a
coherent rationale from the Autry management why the Southwest Museum
has to be moved to Griffith Park.

Welcome to the club Griffith Park! For four years, the communities of
Northeast Los Angeles have tried to comprehend the "Morphing Promises
of Contradiction" coming out of the mouths of Autry Management.
Indeed, it is not coherent. And frequently, it has been simply
contrary to the known facts. Autry's own architect, Brenda Levin,
headed a team of experts in 2003-2004 that prepared a comprehensive
report that found it was feasible to restore the Southwest Museum
building to meet museum standards and to increase earned revenues
(admissions, memberships and store sales) to within the norms of a
typical museum (30% to 50%). Autry now tries to hide the results of
this report from the public by not putting in on the Autry website
and simply says it has determined it is not feasible.

Instead, Autry has come forward with a plan it claims, without a
shred of proof, is economically feasible: spend 5 times more than the
estimate to restore the Southwest Museum to construct a giant
expansion in Griffith Park -- on land owned by the taxpayers of Los
Angeles. When completed, the square footage of the Autry will be at
least 3 times greater than the recently renovated Griffith
Observatory. For the last 4 years the Autry has claimed that its
fundraising for the Griffith Park expansion was in the "silent
phase". In other words, the fund raising continues to not go well.
At the end of 2005, after two years of trying to convince donors it
was a good idea to expand in Griffith Park, the Autry had only raised
$8 million. At this rate, its going to be a long long long "silent
phase" of fundraising to reach $150 million. Autry refuses to solicit
private foundations and wealthy donors for money to rehabilitate and
restore the Southwest Museum site it owns outright - a location that
would be far less expensive than its ambitions in Griffith Park which
is land owned by the taxpayers.

It is time for the communities of the Arroyo Seco, the people who
inherit the legacy of activism of Charles Fletcher Lummis, the
visionary founder of the Southwest Museum, to raise our collective
voices in outrage at the Autry and those its has financially induced
to support its ill-conceived, ego driven plan to raid the Southwest's
collection to build up its own standing in the museum world.
Councilmember Ed Reyes was right: This is nothing but Cultural
Piracy and the communities of the Northeast, and now Greater Griffith
Park, will not stand for it.

WHAT EASY THING YOU CAN DO TO HELP:

Help us get the word out now by copying this message into a new e-
mail, and sending it on to people in your address book you know in
other parts of the City, the State and the Nation who care about
cultural institutions like the Southwest Museum. The time has come
to spread the word of this outrageous proposal of the Autry to grab
the Southwest's collection and unnecessarily deprive our community of
its greatest cultural icon. As one person in Griffith Park recently
said: "This is like Highland Park coming over to Griffith Park and
saying it is going to move the Griffith Observatory, our biggest
historic icon, to Northeast Los Angeles. Of course people would be
upset." The time has come to channel anger and concern into ACTION.

For more information on this controversy, go to:
www.FriendsOfTheSou thwestMuseum. com

October 21, 2007 8:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is behind all of this? Jackie Autry’s ambition. She wants to be an empress and the Autry National Center to be her empire. She has erased her late husband’s name, is no more the Gene Autry Museum. Now she is erasing the name of The Southwest Museum, she needs the museum’s artifacts to give her empire credibility.
She is a millionaire so she has the strings to have politicians, lawyers and aspiring elites dance to her tune. I CAME TO ROB, ROB,AND ROB THE SOUTHWEST MUSEUM, BUT MAKE IT LOOK AS A FRIENDLY GESTURE I CAME TO HELP.

October 21, 2007 8:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:37am,

Very good post. Unless we have spoken, personally, that's the angle some other folks have tried to get me to follow. You summed it up, well.

October 21, 2007 9:36 AM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

What will the "Society of Traitors" get for selling out ??

October 21, 2007 9:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'What will the "Society of Traitors" get for selling out "

POWER!
Appointments to commissions
Managing the Land Use groups in the neighborhood Neighborhood Councils for developers.
Being invited to "special events"; to fundraise for the SW but will be used to support Villareagosa, Huizar, Reyes and the Democratic Party.

Bill Rumble president of the NE Democratic Club worked hard to support Yoli and Huizar; both selected by Villariagosa. Now Yoli is being primed by Av for Councilwoman. Carol Jacques (wife of Bill Rumble) appointed to run the El Pueblo, Huizar was originally selected at El Pueblo, then the School Board, then CD14. Huizar and AV put in Monica on the School Board. Are Carol,Yoli and Monica on the same fast tract when AV becomes Governor, Huizar becomes Mayor and the women become Councilwomen? Autry has supported all of these activities.

When they leave they will do nothing for the SW; as Villariagosa did, lie and run to the next "power' position.

October 21, 2007 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Two Hours-Mirtala

October 21, 2007 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'Anonymous said...
Two Hours-Mirtala

October 21, 2007 10:36 AM'

Please explain what this has to do with the SW?

October 21, 2007 11:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who donated to Jose Huizar ??


01/18/07 Krusoe, Jenny
S. Pasadena , CA 91030 Individual Executive Director
Center For The Arts, Eagle Rock $250.00
$250.00 $0.00

October 21, 2007 11:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

lummis said...
02/06/07 Jackie (Mrs. Gene) Autry
(Retired, None)
Palm Springs, CA 92262 Jose Huizar
Council Member - CD14
1291807 - RE-ELECT JOSE HUIZAR A - Monetary Contribution Received
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 01/21/07-02/17/07]
$500.00 [Election: 03/06/07]

October 19, 2007 2:43 PM

October 21, 2007 11:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is no way to check all of the people who contributed to any councilman. The donate through their friends and family, their business, their attorney and the attorneys whole staff. They give their home for events (many in Mt. Washington, ask Eliot Sekuler), donate food, etc. Never counted as income. In addition, like the unions members, and LAUSD many people are asked to "support" the powers that be; the employees of the Autry, the City of Los Angeles, employees of CD14, members of the Neighborhood Councils and then " Selected Groups" who 'Support or Friends of Councilman, School Board, Mayor" etc.

Developers from all over the country send money to elections to support what they want. Do you think the developers from Miami want to contribute to CD14 and what CD14 wants.... they do. They dont care about the SW, but care about CD14 and what the Mayor and Councilman can do for them in development.

October 21, 2007 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Legacy ??

October 21, 2007 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said...
Legacy ??

October 21, 2007 11:50 AM

Is this supposed to have something with the SW? I havent been here very long so I dont understand much of the "blog code" so, what are you trying to say?

October 21, 2007 12:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

sounds like a lot of "SOUR GRAPES", you got out organized and lost. stop being such babies. You don"t care about the SW Museum you just want to make sure that Latinos stay out of your community. You want to expand it so that the common latino won't be able to attend. You should call yourself "friends of whites folks in MT Washington".


just a bunch of losers, i heard you lost at Latino National Congresso. I guess the ALatinos say a bunch of white folks claiming that they had the native Americans best interest at heart story as a bunch of B.S.

October 21, 2007 12:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"you got out organized and lost. ...

Yes, we were out organized because AUTRY, VILLEREGOSA, HUIZAR AND REYES provided the FUNDING to fight us.

Formed THE " BLUE RIBBON PANEL"

Got them their 501 (C)

SET UP THE FUNRAISERS

SETUP THE WEBSITE

GOT THEM GRANTS

USING EMPLOYEES OF AUTRY, CD1, CD14 AND THE MAYOR to do all the work.

"You just want to make sure that Latinos stay out of your community "

If you had any skills you would know that the Northeast is predominately Latin. Highland Park, Eagle park, Glassell Park have had latins in the communities since the 1970's.

The wealthy Latins live all over CD14; Huizar lives in Boyle Heights, Allatorre lives in Eagle Rock, the Mayor lives in Mount Washington.

"a bunch of white folks "

Having AN NON LATIN NAME does not mean that they are NOT Latin.

WHEN DID THE SW PROBLEM BECOME A LATIN/ANGLO PROBLEM?

It shows how naive you are.

October 21, 2007 1:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Mayor does not live in Mt. Washington

October 21, 2007 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

His wife does and he did before he moved to the Getty House. It was his house of choice as opposed to Eagle Rock or Boyle Heights.

October 21, 2007 1:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's rather common knowledge within the Mount Washington community that those named on the "traitor list" have had long standing ties with the Mayor and his ilk. Big fish in a small but influential pond. The sad thing about it is that these people have done everything in their power to drive others away and have been very successful at it. However the last laugh is on them because the more they play these power games, the more irrelevant they become in their own community. They've got the same stink that was on Dan Wright on them, which if you've smelled that stink you would swear smells a lot like cow piles.

October 21, 2007 2:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"which if you've smelled that stink you would swear smells a lot like cow piles"

Huh? I'm a city boy.... what does that mean?

October 21, 2007 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:16
Answer
"Red Spot in CD 14 said...
What will the "Society of Traitors" get for selling out ??"

October 21, 2007 9:44 AM

October 21, 2007 3:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'What will the "Society of Traitors" get for selling out "

POWER!
Appointments to commissions
Managing the Land Use groups in the neighborhood Neighborhood Councils for developers.
Being invited to "special events"; to fundraise for the SW but will be used to support Villareagosa, Huizar, Reyes and the Democratic Party.

If you are looking for specific dollar values you'll have to ask Huizar, Reyes and Villariagosa or ask the "Blue Ribbon" group what they can get or do now that they couldnt do before.

October 21, 2007 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These lyrics are being sung today at the protest taking place at the
foot of the hill beneath the Southwest Museum in Mt Washington.


.....In My Neighborhood

Intro:
Don't project a future -
cause you don't get a dime - because I have the attitude -
what is yours is mine -
and you're the kind of people -
I walk on all the time.

1. She said, "I'm Jackie Autry and I'm here to take the rein -
I was counting all my assets - when I heard your pain.
My money gives me prestige -
that puts me there with God -
I don't like your neighborhood - your neighborhood is odd.

2. Don't care about your history - or dream of what could be -
I care about the artifacts -
now they belong to me -
I will build my museum -
In my husband's name -
He willed me lots of money -
I can buy the fame.

3. She rode up on her white horse -with attorneys by her side -
She said, "I'm Jackie Autry -
and you can kiss my hide -
I want my own museum -
for everyone to see -
I will bury Charles Lummis -
in Autry history."



__._,_.___

October 21, 2007 4:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jackie was a 40something, manly looking, old maid who married the recently widowed cowboy who was at that point very old, sad but very rich.

does she actually like men?

October 21, 2007 5:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Today about 60 loud protesters gathered at the Southwest Museum as the Autry put on a pathetic 4 hour tribute to the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Southwest Museum. A great number of the protesters were from Highland Park. They had loudspeakers, they sang an ironic song, and continued to recruit more people to protest the crazy plan that Jackie Autry has to suck up the Southwest Museum collection as her own. The Mayor and Huizar miscalculated the politics on this.

October 21, 2007 7:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"The Mayor and Huizar miscalculated the politics on this."

Yes, and they micalculated that they will be re-elected to ANYTHING!

AND WE WONT VOTE FOR ANYONE THEY ENDORSE.

October 21, 2007 7:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:29,
What is this "Latin" stuff? Latin is a language, not a group of people. "Latino" is the word you are looking for. Get out of your little neighborhood or read some books or something.

October 21, 2007 8:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Word is that Jackie Autry knew Gene Autry for a long time before his first wife died. Jackie Autry was Gene Autry’s Banker. She married a man 37 years older than her. He could have been her father. Money and power are very strong attractions.

October 21, 2007 8:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Response to "SOUR GRAPES"

Carol Jacques or Carol Rumble, “SOUR GRAPES’ (your words), that is why I recognized you. Perfect name for you, because wherever you go you turn things sour. That’s why people dislike you so much. You are not an unethical player you are a back stabber. You are a “Judas” to the Northeast community. You talk about whites, always putting them down specially does on Mount Washington, because your short and fat (your words,not mine) they do not have respect for you, and you have to demonstrate to them that you are someone. Haven’t you seen the people you are running around with? Elliot Sekuler, Bill Rumble, your husband, Grayson Cook, etc? Aren’t they whites from Mount Washington? Exactly the kind of people you hate? Now you are adding those white snobs from Autry. Maybe all the “favors” that the Mayor and Huizar have dispensed on you has made the “white pill” easier to swallow?

October 21, 2007 9:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:58
are you kidding me, i doubt you have the skill to vote anybody out of office. You couldnt even win against at the Latino Congresso, a room with only 80-100 delegates. You organized the whole weekend, provided tour the Museum, passed out flyers, made visuals, had a workshop and the OTHER SIDE DID WHAT????? NOTHING and WON!!! you bunch of losers give it up.

October 21, 2007 10:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1;29
Please..... this is just "white on white" crime. no one cares. the Native Americans SUPPORT the Autry plan, the Lummis support the Autry plan, and o does the majority of the community.

October 21, 2007 10:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what? the native americans support the Autry plan? is this true? if so, why are these white folks sticking their noses in this issue? the Lummis, founders of the Museum support the Autry Plan? is this true? these white folks need to stay out. seems to me that they have other reasons for being involved.....maybe its because they have plans of building a starbucks on the site, maybe TGIF's so they can relax and talk about all the issues of the city and how the mexicans are ruining it?

October 21, 2007 10:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what? the native americans support the Autry plan? is this true? if so, why are these white folks sticking their noses in this issue? the Lummis, founders of the Museum support the Autry Plan? is this true? these white folks need to stay out. seems to me that they have other reasons for being involved.....maybe its because they have plans of building a starbucks on the site, maybe TGIF's so they can relax and talk about all the issues of the city and how the mexicans are ruining it?

October 21, 2007 10:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"LATIN" WAS USED A COLLECTIVE NOUN.

LATIN
denoting or pertaining to those peoples, as the Italians, French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc., using languages derived from Latin, esp. the peoples of Central and South America: a meeting of the Latin republics.

LATINO
1. a native of Latin America [syn: Latin American]
2. an artificial language based on words common to the Romance
languages

I ASSUME YOU SPEAK ONE OR MORE OF THE LATIN LANGUAGES. I am sorry you dont have the same set of skills in American English.

October 21, 2007 10:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

white power!!! we need to unite and take back the Autry from the Mexican mayor. Rember the Alamo....remeber the SW Museum. we wont let Mayor Santana Villariagosa have it.

October 21, 2007 11:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10;59
this isnt about Latin its about LAtinos.

take your NAzi ass back to Europe.

Que Viva Aztlan

October 21, 2007 11:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think this is just like the Homedepot in Neo-Nazi stronghold Tujunga, they just dont want Mexicans around. so if they expand it and bring all their nice little shops they will keep the true Latinos out. sneaky little whites..

whats next, you going to give us some smallpox infested blankets?

October 21, 2007 11:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lummis created a museum for the people of the American Southwest; American Indians. Not the Canadian Indians or the people of the Mexican Southwest or any group south of the American Southwest as Lummis knew it at his time.

"they will keep the true Latinos out. sneaky little whites..Que Viva Aztlan'

You are determined to make the confrontation between the "Friends of the Southwest" the "Autry ' and the "Blue Ribbon Panel" a RACE ISSUE and we all know it. The true issue is the abuse of the treasures of the Southwest Museum, taken by an iterloper, who is making benefit from the destruction of the Southwest Museum. Many of the people of Los Angeles,of all nationalities, want the Southwest Museum to be re-established in the home that Lummis created.

October 21, 2007 11:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sour Grapes” Talked about the Latino Congreso:
Let me clarify this. It was not a loss it was a combination of dirty politics and weakness. Dirty politics from Mayor Villaraigosa and Councilman Huizar putting pressure on Antonio Gonzales president of The William Velasquez Institute, organizers of the Latino Congreso. The William Velasquez Institute had been very supportive of The Friends of The Southwest Museum, but this day the political pressure was mighty strong, What was lost was the integrity and justice of the William Velazquez Institute. Mrs. Carol Jacques or Rumble ( El Pueblo Commissioner) killed the presentation of the Southwest Museum through Irma (President of Mujeres de la Tierra) before it was presented. They did not want anyone to hear that The Autry National Center is looting the Southwest Museum, they want to hide the truth. Mayor Villarraigosa, Councilman Huizar and these two women were doing the dirty work of Jackie Autry.

.

October 22, 2007 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:24
Keep making excuses for losing> you got out worked in one afternoon after you (7-10 people) spent the whole 3 days at the congresso for nothing. Learn to play and stop your crying.

October 22, 2007 8:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:25 so the Latinos of highland, mt. washington, eagle rock, glassell park, el serno, lincoln heights and the general area around SW Museum are NOT American? Just you white people are huh? It is about race, everything is about race. You dont think so because you're WHITE. Try readi the book "RACE MATTERS" to be enlighten. Just like white person to say, "it not about race".


The American Indians are SUPPORTING the Autry, at least the ones that matter. Not like that fake Indian you brought to the congresso who wasnt even from the area and basicly called out the real indians that do belong to the area. Sell out, he was the sell out. Nice company you keep Dan & nicole

October 22, 2007 8:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANTONIO RULES! LATINOS RULE! ANTONIO, AN-Ton-IOooooooooooooo!!!!

dont you get it, we are ere to stay!!!!! and take back what is ours

October 22, 2007 9:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Mrs. Carol Jacques or Rumble ( El Pueblo Commissioner) killed the presentation of the Southwest Museum through Irma (President of Mujeres de la Tierra) before it was presented."

Very few people do things for free. You join a club for the benefit it achieves you. In the name of religion, nature, or politics you get benefit. The desire to gain power is as bad as any cardinal sin.

"Mrs. Carol Jacques or Rumble (El Pueblo Commissioner has already gotten something; position as a Commissioner in the City of Los Angeles.I dont know if it was for her work for Villariagosa, Huizar or Yoli, but it wont stop here. Is this is why she is working for Autry. Has she been put on that payroll?

Spanish: avaricia noun
insatiable greed for riches; inordinate, miserly desire to gain and hoard wealth.

Who on the "Ribbon Blue" Panel is guilty of avarice because of POWER?

October 22, 2007 9:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The issue here is mainly about how Mrs. Autry signed an agreement to maintain the independent integrity and identity of the Southwest Museum -- and now is trying to walk away from those promises.

The first inquiry was a Facilities Assessment prepared by Historic Preservation Architect Brenda Levin and a team of experts. Autry CEO John Gray tried to prevent this report from being made public but, ironically, during the period of time that Antonio Villaraigosa was Councilmember, he fought for the Southwest Museum by insisting that Autry release the report.

That report simply says that the Southwest Museum can be restored to meet museum standards. Additionally, it said that the average museum recovers between 30% and 50% of its costs with memberships, admissions, and store sales. The report projected the rehabilitated and refreshed exhibits at the Southwest Museum would attract attendance of 64,000 visitors per year.

Experts who reviewed the Levin report have concluded that attendance is more likely to hit about 100,000 but Autry supressed the attendance numbers. But even using Autry's supressed attendance projections, the museum would recover about 38% of its costs placing it squarely in the norm for a museum. If it hit something closer to 100,000 as projected by outside experts, the Southwest Museum location would operate far superior to the Autry location in Griffith Park.

Since it is likely attendance would be much higher than projected in Autry's own report, no one is buying Autry management's claims that the Museum is not economically feasible -- especially with a dedicated rail transit station, constructed with taxpayer dollars, at the front door of the Southwest.

The rail network is an important way for the millions of tourists who visit Los Angeles and stay in hotels near the rail system to see the City. Just look at the tourists who get off the subway at Universal City as an example of what is possible on a smaller scale at the Southwest Museum. Autry need only capture a fraction of tourists and local residents with proper marketing to make the Southwest Museum site a proud component of the Autry National Center.

The lack of foresight of the Autry is likely driven by Mrs. Autry who has a largely ego-driven desire to take ALL the Southwest Museum away from its home and use it to build up the prestige of the Autry Museum in Griffith Park. This is a misuse of the assets of the Southwest Museum and contradictory to her merger agreement promises. It is sad that she will spend millions on Latham & Watkins and other consultants to walk away from a set of simple promises SHE signed as part of the merger when that money could be invested in doing something else so positive for Los Angeles.

October 22, 2007 10:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Next time I see Carol Jacques, I'll remember that she hates me because I'm white. I'll feel sorry for her because she does a disservice to those who are Latino. And I'll laugh at her behind her back and still let her think she's my friend. I'll even show up to MWA meetings just to show up. But when people start calling her the "Latina Dan Wright", I'm probably going to throw a huge party and laugh my ass off because karma is such an unkind bitch. I might even sing "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" if I have enough to drink.

And I don't think I'll be the only one singing.

October 22, 2007 11:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These comments are so unsophisticated, it is hilarious. Both "sides" want the same thing for the southwest museum. One "side is going after the society" who are volunteers appointed by the Mayor and Huizar who cut the final deal and then appointed committee. Their job is to make the Autry accountable so they don't screw the community. The other side doesn't want the Autry to screw the community either, they should be going after the Mayor and Huizar to include them in the process as they already have made the final decision!!!

I am familiar with all players and they all want the same thing for their community.

Call Huizar for inclusion.

October 22, 2007 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 11:33 or should I say Rob,

I thought you had made up with Dan? I saw you hugging him the other day after the eapc hearing. What gives? Have they changed your meds again?

October 22, 2007 4:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well I see as usual Carol Rumble has managed to bring the conversation around to race. Way to go Carol. It's why we love you soooo much. So inclusive. Brings people together. Got to love it. NOT.

October 22, 2007 5:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who on the "Blue Ribbon Panel" is going to get something from being on Autry's and the Mayor's panel ?

The following have and/or will get something:
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez
Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa
Council President Eric Garcetti
Councilmember José Huizar
Carol Jacques
Tony Scudellari -
Grayson Cook
Pat Griffith
Eliot Sekuler
Jenny Krusoe

October 22, 2007 5:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This has nothing to do with race, etc., etc. Follow the money.

1. The Mayor needs the support of Jackie and her friends on the west side in order to get elected Governor.

2. Jackie needs Lummis's collection to raise the $150-$200M in private capital she needs to build up the Autry Museum in Griffith Park.

3. The Mayor, Huizar, and the Secret Society have pledged to raise the necessary funds for the SWM from pubic sources. But does anyone really think they will find the $40-60M? Unlikely.

4. But they will find the $5M or so to fix up the building. And 5-6 years from now after this crew has long since moved on the Autry will turn the site over to city to use as a community center, or to a gaming tribe to use as a "conference" center, or sell it off for the value of the land to a developer.

Not bad, sounds like a win-win to me. As long as you aren't a tax payer or someone who cares about the legacy that Lummis left us or one who care about the fabric of the NELA community.

October 22, 2007 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Obviously the 'Friends of the Southwest" do.

Do they care about the Mayor being the Governor? Who cares.

Do they care that Jackie needs Lummis's collection to raise the $150-$200M in private capital she needs to build up the Autry Museum in Griffith Park? Who cares?

Do they care that he Mayor, Huizar, have a "Secret Society"
YES!

Does anyone think that the "Secret Society" has pledged to raise the necessary funds for the SWM from pubic sources?
N0!

Does anyone really think they will find the $40-60M?
Unlikely.

Will they will find the $5M or so to fix up the building.
YES, the Mayor has that now!

And 5-6 years from now (When the Mayor is Govenor)this crew ? is long gone?

The Friends have been around a long time.

Yes,Autry will turn the site over to City to use as a community center. That has already been decided. The MECha tribes have asked for it as a school. Then the school will sell it off for the value of the land to a developer. But the appraisor and the developer will know that value is far less than what its worth.

AND THEN EVERYONE MAKES MONEY! THE GOVENOR, THE MAYOR, THE COUNCILMEN,
THE DEVELOPERS, THE COMMUNITY CONSULTANTS AND THE SECRET SOCIETY

Its sucks! No a win-win to me.
As both a tax payer and someone who cares about the legacy that Lummis left us. We also care about the fabric of the NELA community.

If we know that we are going to be raped why do they think we will enjoy it.

They are not paying US enough to enjoy it.

October 22, 2007 7:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To: “SOUR GRAPES” or Carol Jacques Rumble. It is very difficult for you to hear the truth and be ethical. You are going to turn, twist, step on, you will lie and fabricate, and you will do whatever it takes to have your way. Not because is the ethical choice, not because you care about your community or other races, but because you lack conscience. The only world that exists for you is Carol’s world. Your personality disorder needs a psychologist, not the sacrifice of a community’s assets to satisfy you. You have found your twin in Jackie Autry with the same mentality and the same ambition for power, too bad she is white.

October 22, 2007 8:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

People in Los Angeles of good conscience are beginning to see behind the curtain at City Hall on this one. It is not a pretty sight.

Villaraigosa and Huizar remained silent or pretended that they were working to support the Southwest Museum as a museum to avoid having their constituents up in arms until just before the dirty deal, orchestrated by Latham & Watkins attorneys, goes down. Autry has been lying to the people of Los Angeles that its request to expand the museum on taxpayer land in Griffith Park will not come before City decision makers until the new year. But the more likely plan is the "tried and true" developer technique to suppress public turn out: schedule the public hearings during Thanksgiving and Christmas. If you see this unfold, then you know that City Hall officials are helping the Autry pull it off.

They expect that once the pain of granting the permits is over it will all die down before the next election. Well, not this one. This is the central iconic institution of Northeast Los Angeles. And all the evidence suggests it can easily remain as a wonderful full museum. The outrage in the community is palpable.

I attended a fundraiser for Antonio Villaraigosa when he told his CD 14 constitutents that he really wanted to stay their Councilmember, but the corruption scandals at City Hall had resulted in many people asking him to again run for Mayor to put an end to "pay to play." So he used the claims of scandal (when he was not parading his wife and children around as a good "family man") in a successful run at Mayor.

If the loss of the Southwest Museum occurs at the hands of Villaraigosa and Huizar, it will be because of "pay to play" on a much grander scale than the Hahn administration.

A growing Los Angeles group of people is in outrage at this blatantly deceptive scheme: the Southwest Society is packed with political hacks of the Mayor and some others who appear to have been misled into thinking this group will save the Southwest Museum. Instead, at the upcoming public hearings on the Autry's proposal to expand in Griffith Park, this sham of an organization will be prominently displayed by Autry and Latham & Watkins as "evidence" that the Autry has a concrete, written plan for the future of the Southwest Museum.

But it is a sham because in the OFFICIAL City documents, the Draft EIR, the discussion of the Arroyo Campus (the current site of the Southwest Museum), the City Department of Park and Recreation (read Autry and Latham) states that the Autry Board has no definite plan for the reuse of the Southwest Museum site. They are claiming this in the EIR to avoid being forced to discuss the extremely negative environmental impact of separating the Southwest Collection from the stunning building and location Charles Lummis designed for its exhibition. They deny the Griffith Park expansion will have a negative impact on the Southwest Museum.

If the plan to save and preserve the Southwest Museum is as strong as claimed by the Mayor and Huizar at their recent press conference, why won't they put the "wonderful" plan in the EIR? Reason: there is a plan but it is NOT a cultural center, an education center, or any other "viable public destination" bullshit that Autry CEO John Gray has been talking to the press about. They won't put it in a City document because it would official document their fraud on the City if after getting Griffith Park permits they don't carry out the "wonderful" plan jsut touted by the Mayor and Huizar.

Here is the real plan: The plan is to sell the Museum site, because Autry is unable to get sufficient money from donors to build in Griffith Park. They need the money and selling the site to the highest bidder can be done without ANY public process. It will simply be announced and they will be done.

People in Los Angeles are waking up to this outrage. The question is: did the Mayor and Huizar come out of the closet on the Museum too soon or just right to prevent the community from educating the public. We will see...

October 23, 2007 11:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:07am,

ZD may copy and paste this on some other blogs. hope you don't mind.

in other words...nice post.

October 23, 2007 11:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"This is the central iconic institution of Northeast Los Angeles."

It may be located in Northest LA, but it belongs to ALL the people of Los Angeles and should be preserved.

October 23, 2007 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, the Mayor, Huizar and Autry knew what they were doing months ago. Thats when the 'Secret Society" was selected, granted the 501 3C,incorporated, had their first incorporation meetings for their State of California incorporation records,had their first "private fund raisers" and received the GRANTS THEY RECEIVED before the end of September. The announcement of the "Blue Ribbon Panel" was announced late in September. No one was invited except the Autrey people, City administrators and the 'Blue Ribbon Panel". "Secret Society" is a better, and more truthfull name.

October 23, 2007 3:18 PM  

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