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Tuesday, May 15, 2007

City Council flunks math again

City earmarks $50 million for needless Griffith Park replanting.

Walter's way: $50 million could put 12,500 homeless into section-8 styled housing this year, via vouchers, giving 35% of the City's homeless shelter.

My way: $50 million could buy and build 7,000 big, comfy, state-of-the-art modern yurts, giving a quarter (25%) of the City's homeless shelter. Maybe more, if families get priority.

Antonio's and Eric's and LaBonge's way: $50 million buys 800 acres of birdseed for Griffith Park to replace stuff that would grow back anyway, and that scientists are saying no to.

Antonio's and Eric's and LaBonge's way, part II: taxpayers give $50 million out of the Affordable Housing Trust so the City can build 750 affordable housing units, housing 0.8% of the City's homeless---four years from now.

First off---watch that "emergency fund" for Griffith Park. Watch for it to get deflected for a tram and a water slide...and whatever else is on the deservedly much maligned Master Plan.

Secondly: the fire was started by a homeless guy, right? Gee, taking care of the homeless problem could take care of two birds with one stone, ya think? Too bad the City values birdseed more than its poorest citizens.

Please keep an eye to Griffith Park. Help save it from Tom LaBonge and City Council.

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25 Comments:

Blogger dgarzila said:

Joseph is right on this one

May 15, 2007 3:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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May 15, 2007 3:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Delete Costa Rica (his comment at least!)

May 15, 2007 3:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's with the costa rica spam???

I agree with 3:45, delete this comment. Who in heaven's name wants to buy property in Costa Rica??? I don't, we got too many illegals from Costa Rica here!

May 15, 2007 4:04 PM  

Blogger Joseph F. Mailander said:

I deleted it, but I also had to admire it as mighty tough spam to make it through blogspot!

JM, hall monitor

May 15, 2007 4:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Keep hearing about the yurts. Sounds reasonable, but where would those 7,000 yurts be located? Would a zone change be required? Would new infrastructure be required (e.g. streets, sewers, etc.)? Would the adjacent neighborhood support this development? If Joseph can identify an appropriate location that is physically and politically feasible, let's get behind him on this.

May 15, 2007 5:00 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Here's an idea: stop using tax dollars to bribe airlines into landing at the Palmdale airport, and turn it into a Yurt Farm.

May 15, 2007 5:12 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

P.S. Don't you love the word "yurt?"

"Hey, let's have dessert in the yurt! Frozen yoghurt won't hurt."

Sorry. Some days I'm easily amused.

May 15, 2007 5:16 PM  

Blogger solomon said:

Joseph, please let me know what I can do to help fight the amusement parkization of Griffith Park.

May 15, 2007 5:20 PM  

Blogger ROSE HILLS REVIEW said:

WHERE IS AN ECONOMIST WHEN YOU NEED ONE..........? (IT SURE IS NOT ME).

What anyone with concern for public interest would do is simple and persues smart development. Spend $1 million on replanting trees~~~~ heck half of them will grow for free. Spend $9 million on cutting back; homelessness, grafitti, gang programs, and street improvements. (Thats more than $2 million for each) I brought this to the blog index last friday, give me the good news.

Now, of course ever one won't be happy with these choices, so, you take the remaining $40 million <~~~ (hope that is enough) AND INVEST. Wake up here people, what good does it do to dig ($50 million) and put it in the ground ~ literarlly. Use it to make more money, within (3) years that same amount can turn around and produce a tax free incentive for 'GREAT MONEY MANEGMENT'..... AND GIVE THE LOS ANGELES RESIDENTS A (MONTH OF STATE FREE SALES TAX). THAT WOULD BUILD VOTES.

Then you pull out $50 million for tree planting in the year 2010 but we have gained 400% in returns which only turns out to be a 25% cost in the budget. (LAURA SHOULD HAVE BETTER IDEAS)

Please think about what is going on here. In under a week we are expected to pan out $50 million for PLANTS & TRESS, that took about 50 years to SAVE. Keep saving and use the 'free interest' to plant later. (I USE THE TERM 'FREE' AS IN VEGAS ODDS. IF YOU SPEND THE MONEY NOW YOU GAIN~~~~~ UUHHH "NO INTEREST". LEAVING THE MONEY IN THE MARKET COSTS NOTHING, THEREFORE THE INTEREST ACCUMILATED IS 'FREE' AS A GAIN COMPARED TO NO GAIN AT ALL.

No matter how you see it, the city falls in a win/ win position with a more practical solution.

Monies is utilized now for urgent needs, and we get the plants/tree in three years after a 'LANDSCAPE PLAN' is worked out, and we still keep $200 million in the 'POT'. (INVETMENT GROWTH IS REMARKABLE)

I HOPE SOME ONE WITH 'REAL' ECONIMIST QUALIFICATIONS PURSUES THIS OPTION FOR THE BEST AND OVERALL INTEREST OF THE CITY, (ME AS A RESIDENT).

'CITY GUY'
ROSE HILLS REVIEW,
ANTHONY MANZANO

May 15, 2007 5:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter - what if some homeless couple got hurt in a city-supplied yurt? Would they sue?

I can see the headlines in the grey hag now: "Bert & Gert Hurt in Yurt."

*Sigh*! Now you can have more "easy" amusement.

May 15, 2007 5:42 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

James-

You literally have me laughing out loud. The beauty of it was, I didn't see the joke coming. Good set up! You may have to be Deputy Mayor in Charge of Witty Remarks . . . and Snacks.

"It hurt!," blurted Bert from his Yurt, when thrown to the dirt after trying to flirt.

Let's see . . . is there a "RhymingDictionary.com?"

May 15, 2007 6:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These council members are the biggest idiots in the nation. Our midget mayor complains and cuts all city depts. then out of nowhere they find $50 million when they need to. Talk about corruption! They should all be recalled.

May 15, 2007 6:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:38pm

ROSE HILL REVIEW=S ANTHONY NUKLEHESD NUMNUTS =S ATTENTION WHORE!!!

ROSE HILL REVIEW=S ANTHONY NUKLEHESD NUMNUTS =S ATTENTION WHORE!!!

May 15, 2007 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Back on subject;

Recreation and Parks Commission meeting tomorrow 9:30 AM, Garland Building on Seventh Street, Five minute walk from Metro station on 7th and Fig. Griffith Park on the agenda.

May 15, 2007 8:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since Joe hasn't felt compelled to respond to the comment at 5:00 p.m., I'll respond to Walter's comment at 5:12 p.m.

Despite the fact that Palmdale Airport is owned by the City of L.A., the land it sits on is within the jurisdiction of the County of L.A. Would Supervisor Antonovich support the rezoning of the Airport to allow 7,000 yurts and would he provide funding for the necessary infrastructure (roads, sewers, schools, etc.)? Would the Supervisor ensure that there are adequate support services to help the homeless families and get them into jobs in the Antelope Valley? Walter, why don't you ask the Supervisor these questions? You could add another plank to your excellent platform?

The point is this -- Joe keeps talking about 7,000 yurts but he hasn't yet revealed where they should be built and which politician would support them in his or her district. If he could only tell us the right location of the yurt city, we could get behind him 100%. Don't let us down Joe!

May 15, 2007 9:40 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

9:40
Your solution is what?

May 15, 2007 10:17 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

P.S. As per Joe's post, and my platform, I advocate full funding for Section 8. My comments about Yurtville North were what we call in the trade "tongue in cheek."

But I've heard far worse proposals than Joe's proposal, which would immediately provide a roof over people's heads -- as opposed to subsidies to millionaires in hopes that five years from now maybe there will be a couple of units available for $1300 rather than $1500 per month.

May 15, 2007 10:20 PM  

Blogger ROSE HILLS REVIEW said:

I am awake still to catch the last of the game, just over.

Will this 'Yurtville' be a favorable effort or do you think it would be construde as selective discrimination? If it is an option/solution to a current (persistant) social problem then we should face the issue and act.

I wouldn't say this $50 million is the answer today. I would like to have more refined benefits before this becomes an actual consideration for future growth. Do something.

(I am glad I flunked history)

'CITY GUY'
ROSE HILLS REVIEW,
ANTHONY MANZANO

May 15, 2007 10:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, Section 8 is a voluntary program. How many landlords do you expect to open their units to the homeless, especially when vacancy rates are so low?

My solution is neither Yurtville nor Section 8 because there isn't a problem. Whenever these issues of "affordable housing" come up, I agree with Walter: people who can't afford housing (homeless or otherwise) simply haven't "worked and saved" enough.

$50 million of my tax money is $50 million too much. The government does not guarantee people housing. These lazy bums haven't "worked and saved" enough, it's their own fault they're homeless!

May 16, 2007 5:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:38PM

10:34

ROSE HILL REVEIW GUY - ANTHONY NUCKLEHEAD NUMNUTS=S ATTENTION WHORE!!!

DOES NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY!!!
NOTTTTTTTHING!!!

May 16, 2007 7:30 AM  

Blogger ROSE HILLS REVIEW said:

I would say the anony'mouse' of 5:59am has a point, we should not cater and tend to the needs of the (homeless or otherwise) as he put it, to build and comfort them if they still don't do anything themselves to make thier life better.

The initial question is....... should we SPEND $50 million to re-plant at Griffith Park?

You get a definite NO from me until there is a landscape design in place, and you can show that if $50 million is spent, what are the FINANCIAL benefits that the community receives later.

SAVE THE MONEY.

I asked for a new flag to be flown at a local recreation center (compared to the old faded torn one) and the answer given is 'lack of funds' NO $$$$$. This is a sour response when all of a sudden we find all these millions for vegitation, it is all growning back in time with no expense anyway.

(For the other anony'mouse' of 7:30am...... since you are up this early, I am sure you would like to know that I was out pulling weeds and watering the roses and tress planted in ROSE HILLS that was part of the 'Big Sunday' event before you even decided to make your squilly remarks here. Looks like it proves you do NOTHING. LOSER.

I DO IT ALL.....

'CITY GUY'
ROSE HILLS REVIEW,
ANTHONY MANZANO

May 16, 2007 9:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:14AM

ROSE HILL REVIEW GUY =S ANTHONY NUUKLEHEAD NUMNUTS IS ONE BIG ATTENTION WHORE!!!!!!

DOES NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY!!!

NOTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHING...........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May 16, 2007 11:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter (6:28 pm), I think either the pirate or the privateer would qualify better than me for the "Deputy Mayor of Witty Remarks and Snacks" position.

As for your line "'"It hurt!," blurted Bert from his Yurt, when thrown to the dirt after trying to flirt.'", I can substitute a comma for the period at the end of your sentence, and add an additional phrase so that your sentence would read as follows:

"It hurt!," blurted Bert from his Yurt, when thrown to the dirt after trying to flirt with another woman wearing a shirt and a skirt. This other woman wearing a shirt and a skirt was armed with a quirt borrowed from her boyfriend named Curt DeMirt. Demirt, who is usually pert, was rendered inert after drinking too many "short dogs."

rhymingdictionary.com? That's a (nu, knew, new) one!

May 16, 2007 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whoops! I rephrased the sentence, deleted the comma, and forgot to delete the comment pertaining to adding a comma as a substitute for the period!

My bad!

May 16, 2007 1:33 PM  

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