Young Dems Wussing Out?
Last month we carried the story that the San Fernando Valley Young Democrats had endorsed Assembly Member Cindy Montanez over their club founder - Councilman Alex Padilla - for the Democratic nod for the 20th State Senate District. You can imagine that Padilla has been the recpient of much scorn, ranging from our usual gallery of dum dums to Democrat activists across the state, and now, the Capitol Morning Report.It may have been too much for the Young Dems, the following is their attempt to save Padilla some face:
Club members, It has come to my attention that an item appeared in this morning's Capitol Morning Report ridiculing Councilman Alex Padilla for failing to win SFVYD's endorsement in the 20th Senate District race. As you know, Councilman Padilla is one of our original club founders and a longstanding supporter of our organization. SFVYD had no prior knowledge of this item and does not support its contents. Our endorsement of Assemblymember Cindy Montañez should not be construed as a criticism of Councilman Padilla. Ours is one of the few clubs in the Valley that issues primary endorsements; when choosing between good Democrats it is our highest priority that all candidates, endorsed or not, shall be treated respectfully. This is especially true for Councilman Padilla, for whom our club has great admiration. I have received assurance that this negative usage of our club's endorsement will not happen again. As such I consider this incident resolved. SFVYD is proud of our endorsement of Assemblymember Montañez; we believe she is the best candidate in the race. We are likewise proud of our club's reputation for practicing constructive politics, and are committed to continuing that practice. -- Posted by Damian Carroll, President SFVYD
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 3/09/2006 12:15:00 AM
83 Comments:
Apparently this endorsement made the KCAL news right before the "Ask the Mayor" segment. The YDs should be actually excited that their club is getting much attention and it goes to show the worth of this endorsement.
Montanez is surprising everybody, I'm sure hat's why Padilla is crying over the spilled milk.
Wussing out indeed!
As a member of the SFVYD i voted for the best candidate (Cindy Montanez), now i feel my vote has been undermined by Damian. This endorsement is suppose to mean something otherwise we wold have dual endorsed (but we didnt). in fact the actual vote wasn't even close.
Damian you let me down.
Damian, Damian, Damian........... be proud of what your club did, don't weaken the power your endorsement has.
Los Angeles Young Dem-
The YD's SHOULD HAVE been happy, but they aren't. There has been alot of hay over it because it came as a stunner to APad's camp.
As a YD myself I think Damian has seriously screwed up here by undermining the vote of the group and speaking officially out of turn.
The truth is, most of the endorsements in the valley don't mean shit... except the young dems work their asses off for the candidates they endorse.
DPSFV isn't a bad one either although a more geriatric crowd there.
I never read much into endorsements as they rarely reflect a candidates qualifications and more often reflect a given candidates friendship with others.
That is why the candidates who aren't campaigning but rather seeking endorsements that provide no cash or bodies on election day are going to be sitting at home on June 7th. Names that come to mind are Alex Padilla, Lyn Shaw-Hilfenhaus, Mary Barrientos, Sean O'Brian... the list goes on and on.
Cindy is all over the place, Alex looks unsure every place he thinks of going and then doesn't show up half the time. Not smart.
And Damian... really stupid move man... really stupid.
Cindy Rocks!!!
Look and Learn folks. Build it (TEAM) and it will win.
"As such I consider this incident resolved"
What "incident" you buffoon??? Alex was pissed and cried like a baby. What you should have done Damian is SHUT UP and not CREATE a bigger issue by throwing fuel on the fire.
Won't these kids ever learn?
Damian "DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME"! He should resign his post, weak as move.
wah, wah, wah...........i'm sorry i'm just a little upset right now!!!
-Alex P
I lost all respect for the Young Democrats when they refused to endorse Lyn Shaw.
After all she did for their club they should be ashamed of themselves.
Damian keep your mouth shut, we will let you know we to speak for us!
-SFVYD's Members
p.s. Alex your strong arming won't work (this time).
the only reason Cindy got the endorsement is because all her staff belong to the club, not to mention they changed the rules so that couldnt join the day of the endorsement.
12:06
So what your saying is that not only is Cindy out campaigning Alex but so is her staff?
-its called campaigning dumb ass.
Changed the rules? you mean you Alex wasn't able to staff the meeting like they did for Hahn. I guess Cindy's staff learned from AV's campaign.
Damian, you're as much of a loser as Alex. Didn't you learn anything from Cindy's spanking of Alex at the endorsement process?
All i can say is, "grow some" don't follow alex's path to defeat.
CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, CINDY, ROCKS BABY!!!!
OK 2 things.
The YD's refused to endorse Lyn Shaw, by a huge margin I might add, because she has no issues we care about, never shows up to meetings and has no campaign to speak of. OK She claims to have a campaign but her campaign has no web site and didn't bother to tell her when the endorsement meeting was even though the VP of the club supposedly "works" for her. Alger would have gotten the endorsement had the rules not been changed midstream, or had our VP blurted out that he had won the most votes in an obvious attempt to signal Lyn's supporters who until then were clamoring for a new vote. Suddenly we couldn't pick between the winning candidate and no endorsement even though we did on another candidate, although a lot of his supporters did leave by then so who knows.
Secondly, Cindy got an overwhelming majority of the votes there because we liked what she had to say. Alex wasn't bad, but Cindy was better. It really came down to that, for me anyway.
I too have an issue with Damian undermining our endorsement. He certainly doesn't speak for me on this issue.
Alex-
This really makes you look like a little wuss. I think you should just get use to losing because you look desperate.
Cindy-
Keep doing what your doing, it is obviously working.
what a low moment for the club, thanks for nothing Damian. we get our endorsement on T.V. and the closing words from the reporter are you lame ass words.
"we enorsed cindy BUT we like Alex too"
you are starting to sound like the "Me too" candidate himself (Alex)
I too think what Cindy says, i too want what Cindy said, i too will do those things Cindy said.
Get a platform of your own you loser!
I expect a written apology from you Damian by morning on the SFVYD web site. And take that lame ass "excuse us for endorseing Cindy" speech off "OUR: web page!!!!
-Angry member
12:28
I agree, take that shit off Damian!!!!!!!!!!
Damian you suck!
Those of you who are actually paid members of SFVYD and don't work for Montanez should have the nads to sign your name to your comments.
Damian,
Ignore all 3 of these same buffoons who are posting over and over.
You showed the class I've come to expect from the Young Dems, who have impressed me greatly in the past two years.
You are our future. This is a blog. Pay no attention. If any of this is true, you will hear about it one on one from them, not on an anonymous blog.
Class and respect. Excellent.
-one of the geriatric members of DPSFV
hey SFVYD "members", how about putting some legitimacy behind your comments and attribute your names with your statements?
1:27
you know what, Damian is nice guy maybe to nice. As a YD i don't think it was fair for him to speak for the club without FIRST speaking to us. Thats all i have to say about that.
one more thing, for those requesting members to put their name on their blogs "get real". being anonymous is what allows for some to really say what they think.
Damian Carrol, nice guy but wrong move. It's ok, we all make mistakes now and then.
Hey Damian i think i hear the baby crying, oops... thats not a baby it's Alex and his staff.
These Cindy supporters are a little too confident. Let's see how they react when the smears and truth come out on what "powerful politican" Cindy has been playing pillow fights with.
David Z doing great job over at LAweekly.com. We all knew Antonio was all over the District 2 election and he just confirmed it.
BACKERS OF ARELLANO remained suspicious, saying Duffy obtained the background information from two sources with close ties to the mayor — California Teachers Association representative Don Attore, who served on Villaraigosa’s transition team, and UTLA attorney Jesus Quiñonez, a longtime personal friend of Villaraigosa who works for UTLA’s law firm, Geffner and Bush. Quiñonez is also a mayoral appointee to the board of the Metropolitan Water District, where Villaraigosa recently tried without success to install former Assemblyman Richard Katz as that agency’s CEO.
pillow fights??? talk about bullshit and sour grapes!!! typical desperate karl rove republican tactics
i didn't think the young dem endorsement meant much 'til it hit the news last night--- and it would have never hit the news if they endorsed padilla
obviously there are clear differences between cindy and alex... most of the recent endorsement have demonstrated that, so obviously the YD are not the exception.
Damian there's really no need to try to make alex feel better- your membership spoke and now lead them to make the endorsement meaningful
the fact is many want to see padilla falter- he's been a thug of a councilmember--- cindy is the type of fighter that people can get behind and back and clearly they are.
what's amazing is how overconfident and arrogant padilla was waltzing into this race... he should of though it out better considering he's got a whole term left on city council.
Damian your post is a little strange, it lessens your strength of leadership... padilla's thug life is still a concern for some, but like the school yard bully who gets beat up by a girl he'll be no "threat." Make sure cindy wins and you'll end up looking like a true democratic activist.
8:05
Very well put. I agree, just lead your membership they knew what message they were sending to Alex and everyone else interested in the endorsement.
It's time for you to be the leader i've seen you be. Make it count for something.
Does anyone know who the CDP is with? how about AV? I ask because there are not to many endorsements left out there to nab.
Goodmorning everyone, looks like we've been very busy lil' bloggers.
My take on all this is simple, Damian over stepped his powers. Plain and simple. I'm not a member of any YD but if i was i would be upset also.
no matter what side your on i think everyone comes out looking like dum dums. If you endorse someone thats it, no explaination are needed. some one wins someone loses.
I think the one who really needs to grow some nads are the SFVYD's
-non member
I like Cindy, but come on people - none of those dem clubs actually do anything when it comes down to it. Only a handful of active members walk or phone or otherwise engage in a campaign.
LACYD MEMBER
8:24
I've heard Alex is really working the party hard in a last minute attempt to save face. He should have it based on his realationships with party. If not, he is in real trouble (at least in alot more trouble than he already is)
As for AV, didn't both endorse him for mayor? What would possibly hurt Alex is that he did go with Hahn the first time around. Also, if i do recall i did see a lot of Cindy's staffers working at the AV valley office not to mention staffing AV at many valley events.
But knowing AV he will make the choice based on how it will help him get to the next seat.
8:41
i like Cindy also. Iwould also agree that most clubs don't do anything. what they do do though is help spread the word/ not by phone banking but they give media and others the perception on a winning camapaign.
in most campaigns even the best ones i've seen you never reach more than maybe 10-20% of the voters. that is why in a race the media is going to play an important role in what people think.
Now that Maria llena Durazo is in charge at the Fed, who is she with?
i think that will be important.
cry baby Alex at it again. He's been crying so much lately he is starting to look like Tony "crocodilla tears" Cardenaz.
Acevedo, change you boys diaper i think he soiled it.
AV is with Cindy. the only support Alex will be able to muster is coming from outside the district.
8:57
is that true, AV will be supporting Cindy for the Senate seat? Call it lights out for Alex,
if there is anything we learned from recent races like the school board race ans cd14 is that candidates endorsed by AV Win and Win big.
And Cindy blows away any of those other candidates in terms of campaigning skills, campain staff, ect......
should be a easy pick for those not in the know.
"Cindy Montanez the next Senator"
back to city hall Alex
why is everybody jumping on Damian, he just got a taste of the the ole'Acevedo, Padilldo, Cardenaz strong arm tactics. its obvious they got an offer they can't refuse.
I'm proud to say that as a member, i feel our President is truly A LEADER. I don't understand why the montanez staff and friends of staff finds Alex so threatening to have to ALWAYS BE ON THE DEFENSE. I don't know much about Cindy, but voted for her at the meeting. HOWEVER, I am ASHAMED AS A DEMOCRAT THAT DAN WEITZMAN HAD THE NERVE TO PUT THAT IN CMR!!! They always say "STAFF IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CANDIDATE". Thanks for sticking up for our club Damian.
GOOD QUESTION- IF MONTANEZ IS SOOOO CONFIDEND, WHY IS HER STAFF ALL OVER THIS BLOG DEFENDING HER AND BAD MOUTHING THE OTHER CANDIDATE??? A GOOD CANDIDATE DOES NOT NEED SUCH TACTICS.
Touche! They sound just as immature and illerate as AV's supporters. Instead of stating the positives of there candidate they trash Padilla. They sends a clear message to many who aren't in the area and can vote.
10:31
I'm also a proud member and i don't think Damian needed to stick up for anybody. WE cast our votes for the RIGHT person, nothing more was needed to be said. Did all our other endorsed candidates get a "endorsement with an explanation" NO they did not!
As far as the friends and staff of Cindy are concerned, i've had the pleasure to work with them on many occasions and they have to be hands down the hardest working staff/friends i've come across.
it's called organizing! don't hate then for being good at it. it's about time someone started organizing in the valley. They have played "Major Roles" not just phone banked or walkede for a few hours in the last couple of important elections.
They put their "hard work" where their mouth is.
I have to agree, i have seen them at all the campaign offices doing the work SFVYD should be doing.
when the last time i saw Alex's staff let alone Damian. Not to bag on Damian but just wanted to state a fact.
What staff has been seen everywhere? What campaigns? What roles? i haven't seen them
Alex is the man with the plan
Alex is pacing himself folks, this is not a sprint.
Didn't Fuentes and Ackly run both the AV valley office and Alliance for a Better Califonia?
Cindy's staff "Get in my Belly"
signed:
- Ucgly ooooops................ i mean Ackley
Hey let's nchange the subject to "Hot Young Democrats"
I Nominate Angelica, she is a cutey if there ever was one.
Damian let you down? Because he's shown some leadership???
I know HATER-ade is distributed like candy in the Montanez office, but I would hope it would only be used on Alex--not on young democrats that are acting a lot more professionaly than anyone else on this blog.
Stewart is supporting Cindy.
Holy Mother of God, SFVYD's. We've had some intra-chapter disagreements that have kept me up at night with heartburn, but there's a time and a place and a way to handle your grievances. All of these Anonymous posters flaying your leadership alive on some blog are really making YD's look like little children. Think y'all can get a grip before Vegas, or should we offer a workshop on communication skills? Maintain the calm!
That's why Damian should have said nothing. Let Cindy run off at the mouth, it only hurts her. this makes Alex look very estupido. pendejo
HEELLLLOOOOO PEOPLE. Why do you think CRASH beat out Brokeback????
Because Brokeback's campaign peaked wayyyyyy too soon and people got burnt out. That is exactly what is happening to Cindy's. Padilla is very smart and never underestimate him or his camp. They are sitting back just waiting and then BOOOM!!! People will say where did that come from. The big negative against Cindy is Antonio. He's so deep in hot water all over the city her alignment may hurt her in due time.
its interesting that all of the officers of the YDs pretty much work in government except for an attorney or two. no small business owners, no corporate VPs. why? cause if you work in those fields from personal experience you find out what a crock of shit the democrats are and you become republican.
mayor sam who cares abot the young communists? tell them to get real jobs.
As a member, I am not pleased.
Alright, enough with the Alex and Cindy bashing, particularly the former. Remember, we bloggers do not reflect the general populous voting in the upcoming SD 20 race.
Antonio a negative??? give me a break... that about sums up the collective intelligence of team padilla... how about cardenas or acevedo as negatives...
Damian's blog had nothing to do with SFVYD's support for Cindy and it in no way should diminish that. Damian, as our president, has every right to defend the organization and how OUR endorsement is portrayed. Drag somebody else's name through the mud for political gain. Thank you Damian for acting in the best interests of OUR organization.
SFVYD member
Damian is a stand-up guy who is opposed to the slash-and-burn politics of LA. I imagine that if we had more people of integiry like him running things, we could actually get something done in this city. He's a pragmatic progressive who appreciates that we may not always agree, but everyone should be focused on what's best for the people and their government.
Kudos to Damian -- who I'm pretty sure personally is supporting Cindy -- for not letting the SFVYD endorsement be used for ad hominen attacks on Padilla.
The critical focus of his blog is that Cindy is the best candidate of the two because she'd make a better Senator.
The Young Democrats are no more involved in government and law than the Young Republicans. Any group of young people who dedicate as much time to politics and elections as we do often have also committed ourselves professionally. That being said, I've been active in Young Democrats politics for the past 6 years and I have never worked in government, choosing the private sector for my day job.
Damian's a classy guy. The vitrol on this site for his decision to write the open letter confirms it. Too bad there aren't more people in LA politics like Carroll.
Instead, we get too many spiteful people - like most of the negative posters in this thread.
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damian's integrity not in question. his sanity maybe. but he caved in to those who said "damian buddy - how could you guys not endorse alex??? we're your friends, we've been there for you. man, this really hurts damian. can you hook us up and make this all better?"
damian, wanting to be liked, tried to cross hands and make everyone sing kumbya but wound up getting it in the rear from everyone else.
bad move dude. we love ya, but just a dumb move.
Damian is no one's political puppet. He made this decision based on what he thought was best for the organization. Period.
Damian is a stand up guy in my book, dont understand why he needed to do that but still a stand up guy.
I guess i was a little hard on him earlier, but after reading some of the post i have to take back some of the stuff i said. Damian in a real nice guy and i shouldn't have said those things about.
SORRY!!!
Damian,
i forgive you too, i hope you can forgive me for my rush to judge.
-SFVYD
Yes.
Say you're sorry anonymously after bashing him anonymously. What kind of people does Cindy have working for/supporting her? It sounds/looks like a bunch of weasels.
Damian, those that are in SFVYD and actually care about the club know why you put out the statement, and respect you for it. It has nothing to do with liking Alex or Cindy...it had to do with Cindy's campaign putting a hit out on Alex using your club's good name.
I've been a Young Dem for 22 years, and those that bash Alex, Cindy or other Young Dems ANONYMOUSLY make me sick.
As a member of SFVYD and someone who is supporting Cindy, I also commend Damian for his statement. Cindy's camp should not use our name to smear Alex. We voted to endorse her, not to talk smack about him. Sigh. In my perfect world we'd be talking about issues ... not having all this mud being slung between campaigns. Go out and precinct walk or start phoning for your candidate. Stop wasting time calling one another names.
Aren't ALL SFV young Dems (in the club or not) pathetic?
First the formal group: the entire leadership are a bunch of resume-padding losers clinging to whatever political power they think they have.
Here's some news for y'all: no one cares about your club's endorsement. How much money did you bring the campaigns?
Thought so.
So, quit airing your dirty laundry in public.
Second, the non-club members are also weak. This is the district that brought us Cherny-Levine, right?
One attacks blacks and minorities in the Dem primary; the other's claim to fame is a self-circulated rumor that he dates reporters and was an also-ran for almost being considered as an Associate Assistant Vice-Bachelor.
Don't even get me started on the members of the club who post rumors about themselves on this here blog, like "she is so hot." Pathetic.
Yeah, not much goin' on there.
Hehehe. Undoubtedly a reference to JF, perhaps BD.
I don't know too much about DPSFV or the SFVYD, but it makes me wonder how much their endorsements mean. Considering that the West Valley is pretty Republic, i.e. Zine, Smith, Richman etc., perhaps Padilla and Montanez should be going after those individuals and their constituents.
I think it is very immature for adults to be posting personal attacks on both these candidates. First of all Padilla was the youngest president to sit on the council for 2nd largest city in the nation. He went to MIT which I'm sure many of you don't even know what that means. He was a leader and kept this city from panic during 9/11. He's smart and he has a lot of support citywide.
I want to read the issues both Cindy and Padilla support and their vision. Sad that in this day and age people have to resort to personal attacks instead of the real issues to show their support for a candidate. This is why LA is falling apart.
6:10
9/11?- The CITY's own fire department didn't endorse him. Who else than the fire department to have a say on a post-911 era.
MIT, youngest? Who cares is. It seems he's running for a scholarship, not an office. Its no wonder why he hasn't got any Dem. club endorsements, all his letters to the members have been about 4 (out of 6) paragraphs talking about what where he went to school, where he grew up, that his moms worked, and other wanna-be "moving" stories.
Who cares? thats the story of ANY first generation Latino college student. get over it.
Hey 11:00 am, that was worded perfectly. "...thats the story of ANY first generation Latino college student."
Too bad for Cindy that the story works best for a college GRADUATE.
Alex will beat Cindy by atleast 15 points. With all of her fabulous endorsements. Then she will run for council, and she will still be a leader. It will all work out.
12:23
yes jerry, yes jerry.........whatever you say. so......what will you do after koretz? remember, no more NALEO for your lady if you know whats good for you.
City Fire endorsement? SEIU Endoresement...these two major groups one filled with systemic hazing against minorities and the other teeming with scandal and coruption and the inclusing of illegal aliens...hhmmmm? is that what cindy stands for these day; all in the name of what?
11:04
Which is it? is Cindy Racist lover or an illegal aliens lover, she can't be both? Or maybe you are just talking out of your @$$? i'm going to go with the latter.......gerry.
one thing is for sure, cindy likes those protien drinks fabian gives her
First off, you're all losers. Second, Fabian isn't banging Cindy. Faby is into boys, literally. Finally, you're all losers. Bunch of never was hacks. That's why the Dem party is in such disarray, assholes like you make it up. Keep drinking the cool aid bitches.
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