If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Is it your right to erect a fence around your house so high Mrs. Kravitz across the street can't look in at you? Damn right it is.
The liberals in Santa Monica won't let your hedgerow grow beyond a certain height, that's why Arnold's brother-in-law Bobby Shriver ran for the Council there.
Here in Los Angeles, the City Council is considering raising limits to fence heights. Neighborhood Council activist, Dr. Charlotte Laws, gave to the Council's Planning and Land Use Management Committmee.
Hello, Councilmembers. I am Dr. Charlotte Laws, member of the Greater Valley Glen Council. I assume you received my letter in September 2005 urging that you raise the height for front yard fences and hedges. I have provided you today with an article that I wrote about this subject and my list of recommendations for the city.
Los Angeles codes which limit front-yard fence and hedge height to a maximum 3 ½ feet above grade are obsolete and emanate from a time when crime was lower and conformity was the norm. Times have changed, and I believe these laws need to be reviewed and revised to accommodate a homeowner's need for greater privacy, security and self-determination.
For the most part, Los Angeles has not enforced these codes. A friend of mine with a 20-foot hedge received a letter from City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo, saying that he faced a substantial fine or a year in prison if he did not cut his hedge. He attended a hearing and told the judge he would prefer to go to jail. The judge said, “Have the hedge cut by Tuesday when Building and Safety comes to your house.” My friend did not cut his hedge, but the building and safety employee opted for the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. She said she would pretend the hedge conformed with the law.
As an experiment, I surveyed the 359 homes in my neighborhood and found that 112 had hedges or fences that were not in compliance with the law. If this statistic translates across the city, this means one-third of all Los Angeles residents are not in compliance.
To enforce them selectively now—as is being done--results in an uneven application of the law. It can pit neighbors against neighbors, and it can be financially burdensome for property owners who do not have the funds to alter their front yards. Variances can be costly. Neighbors snitch on each other; this escalates into more and more snitching.
Our city has serious problems. Why are we wasting our time and money enforcing outmoded laws?
We are a diverse city with different cultures, crime levels and privacy needs. Some properties lack backyards due to hills, pools or placement of the home on the lot. In these cases, property owners may want to enclose their front yards to provide play areas for kids and pets. The city must allow flexibility on front-yard fences to accommodate cultural differences and the need for security and privacy.
I have provided you with my list of recommendations for Los Angeles. Unless deemed dangerous, I think fence height should be raised to five feet, and there should be no limit on hedge height. Those that are currently higher should be grandfathered into the system, again unless considered dangerous by the city. I hope you will review all of my recommendations.
Dr. Charlotte Laws' Proposal for Front-yard Fences
The liberals in Santa Monica won't let your hedgerow grow beyond a certain height, that's why Arnold's brother-in-law Bobby Shriver ran for the Council there.
Here in Los Angeles, the City Council is considering raising limits to fence heights. Neighborhood Council activist, Dr. Charlotte Laws, gave to the Council's Planning and Land Use Management Committmee.
Hello, Councilmembers. I am Dr. Charlotte Laws, member of the Greater Valley Glen Council. I assume you received my letter in September 2005 urging that you raise the height for front yard fences and hedges. I have provided you today with an article that I wrote about this subject and my list of recommendations for the city.
Los Angeles codes which limit front-yard fence and hedge height to a maximum 3 ½ feet above grade are obsolete and emanate from a time when crime was lower and conformity was the norm. Times have changed, and I believe these laws need to be reviewed and revised to accommodate a homeowner's need for greater privacy, security and self-determination.
For the most part, Los Angeles has not enforced these codes. A friend of mine with a 20-foot hedge received a letter from City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo, saying that he faced a substantial fine or a year in prison if he did not cut his hedge. He attended a hearing and told the judge he would prefer to go to jail. The judge said, “Have the hedge cut by Tuesday when Building and Safety comes to your house.” My friend did not cut his hedge, but the building and safety employee opted for the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. She said she would pretend the hedge conformed with the law.
As an experiment, I surveyed the 359 homes in my neighborhood and found that 112 had hedges or fences that were not in compliance with the law. If this statistic translates across the city, this means one-third of all Los Angeles residents are not in compliance.
To enforce them selectively now—as is being done--results in an uneven application of the law. It can pit neighbors against neighbors, and it can be financially burdensome for property owners who do not have the funds to alter their front yards. Variances can be costly. Neighbors snitch on each other; this escalates into more and more snitching.
Our city has serious problems. Why are we wasting our time and money enforcing outmoded laws?
We are a diverse city with different cultures, crime levels and privacy needs. Some properties lack backyards due to hills, pools or placement of the home on the lot. In these cases, property owners may want to enclose their front yards to provide play areas for kids and pets. The city must allow flexibility on front-yard fences to accommodate cultural differences and the need for security and privacy.
I have provided you with my list of recommendations for Los Angeles. Unless deemed dangerous, I think fence height should be raised to five feet, and there should be no limit on hedge height. Those that are currently higher should be grandfathered into the system, again unless considered dangerous by the city. I hope you will review all of my recommendations.
Dr. Charlotte Laws' Proposal for Front-yard Fences
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13 Comments:
Peter McFerrin said:
Anyone who thinks that a hedge offers any protection on its own is foolish. It's surprisingly easy to get through a hedge, albeit not especially pleasant. When my dad owned a house in Memphis in the '70s, burglars and prowlers would commonly hide in the hedges in his nabe.
Privacy is one thing, but you'd better invest in a serious fence (and that means chain link or wrought iron) if you want actual security.
Walter Moore said:
The reason for the limits on the heights of fences -- including "living fences" -- is to preserve the open and "green" feel of our already cramped urban environment. It's much nicer to walk through a neighborhood and see a vast expanse of yards than to see nothing but tall walls. Nor is it unfair to enforce these laws, since they've been around for ages. I say enforce them more, not less.
Anonymous said:
nice bush, charlotte.
Anonymous said:
Wacko Walter guess you've really gone liberal. what happened to property rights?
Anonymous said:
I wonder if Laura Chick will do an audit on these Bushes, She's doing audits on everything else.
Anonymous said:
Nah, it's in Santa Monica. Out of her disrict.
Sahra Bogado said:
It would be nice if you could force your neighbors with ugly houses to grow a tall hedge to block their home from public view.
Seriously though, what is the point of all the residential setback requirements to "maintain the character of the neighborhood" if you can drop the H-bomb (Hedge Bomb) on the whole thing?
If you want to ruin street life in your neighborhood more than current planning and land use has - then sure, build your anti-minority, anti-community, hedge.
Walter Moore said:
LOL re going liberal. Whether your Democrat, Republican or Green, you can believe in the benefits of zoning laws, building codes and set-backs. (Teddy Roosevelt was a pro-conservation former Republican.)
People who buy houses here have a reasonable expectation, based on laws that have been around for decades, that their neighbors are not going to erect big fences. Anyone who wanted different property rights -- including the right to build a giant fence -- could have and should have purchased land elsewhere. In effect, landowners here have a property right to prevent giant fences; you can think of it as an limited easement to light and air, if you want to go all legal.
Walter Moore said:
P.S. Correction: "Whether you're..." not "Whether your..." Some day I'll proofread BEFORE posting, maybe.
Anonymous said:
Archie,
I would kill to know who you are. I know you're a friend of mine. I'm positive.
Anonymous said:
Charlotte's idea is moronic. Raising hedge or fence heights has no bearing on crime rates. In fact, it most likely reduces light in neighborhoods and thereby increases the likelihood of a crime occurring.
Maybe if she closes her eyes and plugs her ears reeaaaaaaallly tight, she'll be protected from all kinds of crimes.
Anonymous said:
I had two breakins, then got smart and put up a fence. No breakins since. I think it is only fair to let the homeowner protect himself against intruders. How dare you idiots try to take away my rights?
Anonymous said:
Sorry, no fly. First, your story is anecdotal - we don't know your circumstances. Second, ask any cop: high fences and hedges invite crime. Low barriers prevent it. As soon as criminals know you're not home, they'll go to work, knowing they can't be seen. A real-time alarm, with a company to back it, is a better choice.
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