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Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Congrats to the New Councilmembers

The big winners of the evening were Jose Huizar and Herb Wesson. Congrats to both!

Regardless of both camps reactions in our comment threads, we wish both Huizar and Wesson success, and hope they roll up their sleeves and do the work their constituents just voted them into office to do, without the vindictiveness and gloating that we are already seeing from some.

As for myself, I publicly eat crow for my prediction of CD14 being close, and hereby provide you this thread to dance on my head.

Blog away. Have a blast. I'll be sitting outside in the rain

99 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

God help us, look around the horseshoe. Is this really the best and the brightest that all of Los Angeles has to offer up as its leaders? Is there really anyone out there who can in his or her heart of hearts answer that question with a resounding yes?

November 09, 2005 12:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Day 1 - Councilmember-Elect takes oath and becomes Councilmember.

Cut and paste crew immediately begin blogging on Mayor Sam: "Huizar's done nothing for the district! He hasn't shown us anything" ad infinitum.

Mayor, sure hope your forum is able to successfully negotiate this turn of events. I mean, what's Mayor Sam without the painful prattle of the usual Anti-Huizar (AV) cut and paste crew.

I guess they'll be too busy actually looking for jobs now that they've blogged away Nick's last chance at political office.

Damn...if they'd just campaigned instead of blogged all the time, maybe they would have only lost by 20 points.

By the way, I was on my way to the polling place to vote for ______ when I saw a sign of _______ and decided to vote for him/her.

November 09, 2005 1:10 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Anon 12:52
Well said.

Until there is major reform - which will take the people waking up from a deep, deep clueless slumber - it will never be.

The people have the government they deserve.

November 09, 2005 1:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You lost, Sam. Too fu*kin' bad.

I AM SO GLAD TO SEE NICK PACHECO GONE FOR GOOD! I'M ALSO GLAD TO SEE HIS PATHETIC FOLLOWERS (PARTICULARLY THE ONE WHO BOLDS EVERYTHING) GET THEIR JUST REWARDS.

Your guy was a loser. You demonstrated yours and his worst side, post after post. Now that your candidate is finished, go away and STAY AWAY!

Hahahahahahahahahahahah . . . . . . . .

November 09, 2005 1:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Winner's -- Jose Huizar, Antonio Villaraigosa, Fabian Nunez, Chief Parker and Martin Ludlow.

Losers -- The Governor, Nick Pacheco, Mayor Sam, Mayor Frank and the Republican Party.

November 09, 2005 2:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sooooo glad that I don't live in L.A. anymore. It's going to be fucked up! Most everyone (there are exceptions of course) with power is 5ft. 7in or shorter.....LOL

What ya'll gonna do?

November 09, 2005 3:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Brian Hay, you're a tool.

November 09, 2005 4:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh, poor Nickie Boy.

Why are they so mean to poor little you?

Can it be because you were such a meanie to all the poor people in your district? Could it be because anyone who ever wanted to meet with you or wanted help with anything was treated like crap?

Or, could it be because your thugs, Torres, III and Villanueva walked around sliming anybody and everybody who got in your way?

Well, you were right about one thing: The people in CD14 knew you better than Jose. They certainly did, and they proved it last night.

So, move on, Nickie. Maybe Cooley needs to be brought down in the next election. You might improve it to 16%

November 09, 2005 5:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The big winner of the night was

ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA

With Huizar and Wesson on board, watch out! School Reform? He know has the majority of the council!

November 09, 2005 7:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, who is going to replace Huizar on the school board?

My hope is that we don't get a recycled political hack.

November 09, 2005 7:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Monica Garcia for School Board!!

November 09, 2005 7:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is that? Is she the obese woman who worked for Jose?

November 09, 2005 7:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes

November 09, 2005 7:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nick Pacheco's wife should run! What a hottie!

November 09, 2005 7:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm just enjoying the fact that there were so many bandwagon jumpers at Jose's party last night. People like Robert Flores were there, and it's ridiculous because they are hardcore Pachecoistas who campaigned hard against Huizar. But that didn't stop them from making a cameo at the party. Maybe you should go put together another recall and see if people give a rat's ass about it.

November 09, 2005 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Politics is somewhat of a beauty contest and Monica is going to have an extreme makeover before deciding to run.

Plus, she's not that articulate. There has to be a better candidate and not another political hack.

November 09, 2005 7:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rumor is that they're prepping Corina Villaraigosa to run for Jose's seat. Total domination.

November 09, 2005 8:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'd support Corina (it would be great to have someone run who actually has school age kids), but I don't think she'll do it.

November 09, 2005 8:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Corina? I don't think the Mayor y familia are going to be moving back to the eastside for say 8 years or so.

November 09, 2005 8:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They'll be moving to Sacramento

November 09, 2005 8:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Thus ends the shortest political comeback ever: Nick Pacheco's.

Mr. P, I think of all the loyal, intelligent, capable people you screwed over and I am not shocked at your loss. Eric Hagopian, Henry Losano, Mike Gato, Liberty Mesa. These people could have been very valuable to you.

Weren't you even at some point friends with Parke Skelton himself?

November 09, 2005 8:18 AM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

I'm sure there will be some gloating on the Huizar side---but I think that MayorSam can feel pretty good about what was accomplished here and elsewhere in the blogosphere in this election.

The results at the top followed the contributions almost precisely---and money is hard to beat. However, the performance of the shoestring candidates was quite astonishing---they were written off as "not mattering" elsewhere---but in aggregate they captured nearly 20% of the vote! No way did they capture 20% of the contributions.

Also, nobody expected more than 25,000 voters in this election, but there were over 6,000 more than that!

We have a post up on it at our site referencing this all if anyone wants to peek. But all in all, it was a great election, absolutely great for the District and for the City alike, especially as District serves as a kind of political laboratory. What all these people do with themselves in the immediate future---Jose included---will remain of considerable interest.

Bring on the 45th!

November 09, 2005 8:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have never seen politics like this in LA and I was born and raised here. Fact is Antonio campaigned hard for Jose and won. Now we are stuck with the worst city council members by far who are dictated by one little midget called Antonio. Thankfully the LA Times Patrick McGreevy is still feeding the facts on Antonio using the private jet from Ameriquest. Seems the MAPA is on his butt now.

November 09, 2005 8:32 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Losers - Arnold, Nick, Mayor Sam, Mayor Frank

Winners - Mayor Sam's Sister City, MS2 and Sam Yorty's America - TRAFFIC THROUGH THE ROOF! Especially Sam Yorty's America - biggest gain in hits/unique visitors both election day and this morning of the three blogs. Stay tuned to that site for news OUTSIDE of LA.

November 09, 2005 8:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THANK YOU MAYOR SAM for giving us a place to voice our opinions. You made the race much more interesting and have gotten people who otherwise wouldn't be involved in politics in the game.

It will be interesting to see how the grass root supporters who were on Pacheco's side deal with Jose. I just hope he doesn't keep the same old lazy CD14 staffers, but then again he does everything Antonio says.

November 09, 2005 8:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:18

After a humiliating 60 point swing in the final weeks of this election, it's time for the autopsy.

Pacheco's decision-making ability always lacked. He never put a professional staff together (except maybe '98), he couldn't even keep his unprofessional staffs together for any period of time.

The end of Nick's career comes down to three people.

Robert Urteaga, campaign manager.

John Edwards, political director.

Nick Pacheco, candidate.

You guys turned sure victory into a crushing defeat.

November 09, 2005 8:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

TS Eliot on the Mayor Sam blog:

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar


This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
Not with a bang but a whimper.

November 09, 2005 9:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:32, 8:52 - Only two posts today? You usually have about 10 by this time in the morning, of course, attributed to other bloggers.

While the Mayor may be short, he's definately a giant in the public's eyes. Last night at the post-election parties he was swarmed by everyone - constantly.

You simply don't understand about building coalitions, which is why your guy got crushed. You'll either learn or continue to lose.

November 09, 2005 9:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Right, Anon 8:54, it was those three guys. Villaraigosa had nothing to do with it. 10 councilmembers didn't have anything to do with it. The money people who were told to give only to Huizar had nothing to do with it. The unions who were told to go with Huizar had nothing to do with it. No, that unholy alliance, all put together by Antonio Villaraigosa, had nothing to do with ending Pacheco's career.

November 09, 2005 9:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco had a 30 point lead. They let it die on the vine.

The other guys ran their operation, Pacheco ran his. He lost bad.

Villaraigosa and his cronies are not gods. Villaraigosa is one for two against Hahn!

November 09, 2005 9:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar can't graduate kids or build high schools. Pacheco did not educate the voters. He lost to a better run campaign.

November 09, 2005 9:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The only character on this blog that seemed to actually know anything before it happened was Chief Parker.

He predicted Wesson and Huizar months and months ago.

And this whole time i thought Frank and Sam had the insider knowledge.

November 09, 2005 9:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You say "coalition" - I say "political machine". . .

You say "giant in people's eyes" - I say a cult figure on a pedestal, destined to fall hard (they always do). . .

You say a "30 point lead" - I say, better name recognition, bought out by outsiders and special interests. . .

You say big loser = Pacheco - I say biggest loser is CD14, with the same neglectful leader (AV) in control of their specific fate for another 18 months, and more. Their choice, but a loss neverthless.

November 09, 2005 10:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam can't complain about this outcome... supported AV for Mayor, which propelled everything after that. Your "sins" followed you to the next election.

November 09, 2005 10:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK Trujillo. Stop stroking yourself. It is getting old.

November 09, 2005 10:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 8:18 said:

>The end of Nick's career comes down >to three people.

>Robert Urteaga, campaign manager.

>John Edwards, political director.

>Nick Pacheco, candidate.

Nope. Nick had burned too many bridges and the best he could do was Robert and John. Both brought a lot to the campaign but they are not an "A" team. And nothing they could do could overcome the ngatives that Nick brought to the Table. Nick has only himself to blame. The voters in CD14 did not trust him and he failed to address that issue. The up by 30% in start was an error IMHO. And will now be used by Huizar as a demonsatration of what a political stud he is. Good for him. Clearly the best man won and CD14 and the City will be the better for it.

Good luck to both Nick and Jose!!

November 09, 2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Annon 8:54

Is it true Cynthia Ruiz and Jose are already talking about the trash collection fee for residents. The conversation was heard in between gloating laughter.

November 09, 2005 10:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Getting old, and downright pornographic -- but when no one else will... what's a guy to do, right Chief Faker (now if you could ONLY produce the 80 FAKE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ORGANIZATIONS "proof" you swore you had, then, maybe you'd be batting in the plus column.

Until then, it is just that -- partisan political mastubation.

November 09, 2005 10:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What happens now?

After each election as the true believers have their heart thrown to the asphalt and left for decay, supporters of different campaigns have to go and start their lives anew and rebuild the confidence they just lost.

For Crystal Arceo she must payback her sister’s 15th birthday fund for the mailer she created slamming Huizar. While many folks on this blog commented on her good looks, perhaps that is an avenue for her to look into to payback her sister. Maybe her sister can join in.

David Sanchez spent the last of his take over Catalina money to create a black-eye in the district. But that mailer reflects on the status of his heart and the hatred he seemingly has in the inner-soul called David. Perhaps there are some caves in Catalina that have been unsearched where gold or a cache of guns and ammo exist so he can reclaim the island.

Jimenez probably won’t change too much, I am sure he will continue to give clothes to the homeless on weekends and shout at people as they enter schools and churches (perhaps thinking its election day again) and tell them not to trust Jose Huizar. But Juan has never been one you could talk to about anything really.

Ruby De Vera and Brian Heckmann are actually good people and I wish them the best. They actually are grassroot activists fighting the good fight and engaging in real ideas with voters. I wish them luck in their future endeavors.

And to Nick, Lauro if you prefer. Why are you such a jerk? Why don’t folks like you anymore? Why is it that with more people voting this time than in 03 you actually LOST votes – almost 1,000 of them. Why the denial? Why the hate? You had your chance, now please just be a good private citizen and get out of the way of progress.

Listen, this blog is not a healthy forum for you or your supporters, mainly because you guys seemingly believe your own spin, which is sad. So take a vacation – go to Hawaii, clean up your office on this sad rainy day and leave the blog. Leave the heartache, leave the stress behind.

Mayor Villaraigosa and his team swept the City – He endorsed the NO slate on the propositions, he supported Measure Y, Herb Wesson and Jose Huizar. Clean sweep for the Mayor, he took out the Governor, Nick Pacheco, and all the jealous haters at the same time while maintaining his now 83% approval rating (binder poll).

Stand in the way if you like – fight the good fight, but when you lose, just move on and get back on with your sad little life.

November 09, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Mayor Villaraigosa and his team swept the City – He endorsed the NO slate on the propositions, he supported Measure Y, Herb Wesson and Jose Huizar. Clean sweep for the Mayor, he took out the Governor, Nick Pacheco, and all the jealous haters at the same time while maintaining his now 83% approval rating (binder poll)."

Sounds like AV smells blood in the Governor's office.

November 09, 2005 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The HIGHER the approval ratings GO... the SOONER, AV does. On the the next job.

November 09, 2005 11:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes you're right anon but how many bodies did Hitler get rid of without one person going against him? There are so many people afraid to go against Antonio anything he does has to succeed. There's no other side now in LA politics. Its Antonio's way or the highway. All those people who endorsed, gave money and are kissing AV's butt behind the scenes are saying exactly what I just posted.

November 09, 2005 11:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Never underestimate the power of connections made because of neighborhood councils. When Pacheco people laughed on this blog when CD 12 residents said they would come to help and told them they didn't need their kind in CD 14, that just encouraged them.

Jose supporters in CD 14 thank the residents in CD 12 who made hundreds and hundreds of phone calls on Jose's behalf. Nick just couldn't keep his mouth shut. It worked for us.

November 09, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The big difference in this election was the BIG O.

He swichted from the Hahn/Pacheco team to the Villaraigosa/Huizar team.

A lot like Jake Plummer learning to QB without throwing so many picks.

Go BIG O!!!!!!!!!!!

November 09, 2005 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is huge concern in Democratic circles that even though Arnold lost, Westly and Angelides are empty suits that may not be able to topple a terminator who knows how to rebound from defeat better than anyone.

At the same time, starry eyed activists are hoping that either Rob "Meathead" Reiner or Warren "Dick Tracy" Beatty will get into the race. That will bring out Hollywood money but poor people, union folk, Latinos aren't going to jump to the polls for two old rich, wore out Hollywood white guys they don't even know. Indeed, a Reiner nomination could embolden voters in Republican strongholds to send Archie Bunker's pinko son-in-law packing.

When it comes to finding the most formidable Democratic candidate to go against Arnold, the kingmakers are going to look south to the 3rd Floor at 200 N. Spring Street. Especially after yesterday.

Yes, Antonio is going to run. They just need to finish crafting the exit strategy (my state needs me).

You heard it here first. My present to you Mayor Sam.

November 09, 2005 12:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GO BIG O!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 09, 2005 12:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What insanity is this - who the hell is "Big-O?"

November 09, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Eliza,

I have thought about this as well. My candidate on when Pacheco's campaign was lost goes back to 2001 when he decided to be a vehement and aggressive opponent of Villaraigosa's first Mayoral campaign. When he allowed himself to be used as an attack dog for Hahn (as the Councilmember in a District that was voting overwhelmingly for Antonio.)

He may have ingratiated himself with Hahn, but he alienated his own district -- and made Antonio an enemy for life.

Bad career move. Antonio had no reason not to pick him off in 03 -- and every reason to move heaven and earth to ensure he was not returned to the Council in 05.

And it all stems from the fact that Antonio supported his friend, Victor Griego, in 1999. Instead of being a gracious winner and mending fences, Pacheco decided to punish those who had opposed him.

As you reap so shall you sow.

November 09, 2005 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In fact, in 2001 Antonio went to where Nick was to meet with him and ask for his endorsement after the primary. He even asked for Nick to stay neutral -- Antonio offered up the olive branch after 1999, and Nick threw it in Antonio's face.

Good post Anon - you do reap what you sow.

November 09, 2005 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:03 - I stand corrected. YOU are the biggest loser.

November 09, 2005 2:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:28

I hope you're not really helping anyone's campaign especially if your political sensibilities are anything like your understanding of agriculture?

FIRST you sow; then you reap.

Kinda hard to do it the other way around (but go ahead and try).

November 09, 2005 2:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bunch of really sore winners around. Beating up Pacheco like, what, maybe he's coming back next week? Time to grind him to dust now. Give is a rest, you're talking about a public servant who made some mistakes -- more with campaigning than Av did with constituent service for the past two years.

He ain't Jason in a hockey mask, you sniggering hockey pucks.

P.S. And 1:28. You know nothing about Pacheco and his olive branches... that's the AV line to justify slash-back. I was ON the opposite side from Pacheco in '99, and it was BECAUSE he came across and worked hard for everyone, regardles, that I supported him the next two times. It was AV who pissed all over the Pacheco supporters (like me) in '03. Lousy CM-work for his own supporters, NONE for the opposition. This the pot calling an albino black.

November 09, 2005 2:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Although there were many who voted for Jose many of those who didn't are the ones that are active in the community and are the doers. Those same people are the ones that are at the meetings Jose needs to attend. He should become humble and stop being so damn arrogant and throwing Antonio in their face. Sadly, CD14 has lost so much in 2 yrs and now its time for Jose to step to the plate and prove he can do it without taking direction from Antonio.

November 09, 2005 2:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ok seriously we should have Nick Pacheco's wife run for school board, she is the hottest rooka ever, que no!

November 09, 2005 3:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm convinced it is the Measure Y bond that helped Huizar win that district. Because on the Ballot sheet it should LAUSD member and Measure Y to help support more schools.

A classic voter "bait and switch", Like in 2001, Jimmy Hahn, used James Kenneth Hahn to get the middle age on the fence black voters to vote for him.

Oh well, I hope Villaraigosa's wife runs for that School Board seat.

November 09, 2005 3:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey menso: It's ruca. And, I don't think she's interested in running. Who else?

November 09, 2005 3:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:17 - You had it comin' with the scummy comments in support of Pacheco. You bred contempt in this race.

November 09, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And, and, and "YOU HIT ME FIRST" Waaaaah

Go back and finish LAUSD, as if anyone ever does.

November 09, 2005 5:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How does one make "scummy comments in SUPPORT of someone?"

Is that like "My guys is LESS scummy that your guy?"

Yeesh.

November 09, 2005 5:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, guey, since "ruca" is slang Spanglish for a slang English term ("chick" verdad?), there probably isn't any real authority on how to spell it, now is there? Is there like some used Spanglish Webster's Dictionary we should pick up at the pulga for that?

November 09, 2005 5:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Funny Albino Parra at 1:10

November 09, 2005 5:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

CD 14 smacked of voter fraud. I'm sure the Clerk's office was bullied by the midget into changing the results to elect Huizar. Our polling showed Huizar so far behind that it would have been impossible to catch up -- let alone win.

That's why Nick and Julie Butcher hired attorney Fred Woocher today to inquire about the conduct of the election. Woocher is a heavyweight, represented Alarcon against Katz.

The unions supporting HUizar should also be investigated for their illegal coordination with the campaign.

And I heard that Huizar personally thanked a city staff member from Villaragiosa for his work on the campaign.

This election was corrupt, a total fraud. DOn't believe the results.

November 09, 2005 5:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you serious with this bullshit.

Investigation on what?

November 09, 2005 5:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ana Cubas for school board.....

November 09, 2005 5:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's see. Fred Woocher. The same one who was (is?) a law partner with the current LAUSD general counsel? The same one who frequently is employed as counsel to the District? Gee, wonder where he'll come out on a fraud allegation against someone who still signs his checks.

November 09, 2005 6:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nick and Julie Butcher hired Fred Woocher? Interesting, since SEIU 347 endorsed Huizar...

Fred has been known to pick up a handful of votes with an aggrtessive election challenge, however I think that a 8,871 vote gain is unlikely, even given his ample talents.

November 09, 2005 6:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar is a loser! He is so not a leader, but a two bit lay down Huizar.

Corrupt, Deceitful, Classless, and Lousy Speaker...

Give it up Jose! You did not win, you are a Bitch to the powers that bought your ass to do their dirty work.

It's sick to know you and Monroy are partners living dual lives.

First Monroy is Art Torres' bitch and later on claims he now likes women. Get real! We all know you, Monroy, and Cobb are doing each other!

You are a disgrace to real men with real balls.

November 09, 2005 6:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

With the results from last night it is obvious that serious people need to ask questions.

How can Pacheco's campaign implode to such an extent. All indication point to internal sabotage and back stabbing.

The culprit is not hard to identify, Eric Hacopian.

How can a person go from being AV's consultant to being Pacheco's in the next election.

How can Parke Skelton's business partner run a campaign against a Parke's candidate?

How can some one with close ties to Richard Murello run Pacheco's campaign?

Did Hacopian hire an incompetent fundraising team to hurt Nick's campaign?

Can a person like that really be trusted?

What did Hacopian reveal of the Pacheco game plan to AV after he left the campaign.

Was he a plant all along.

With all the coverage in this race no one seems that no one has the guts to ask these questions.

November 09, 2005 6:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now that the CD14 stuff has been decided, this blog site will have no more readers

November 09, 2005 6:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

With all the focus on Hacopian my question is -- what in the hell is Nick hiring him in the first place.

First off, i don't believe Hacopain did anything wrong or illegal nor was he a spy.

But if everyone can claim this, what kind of idiot hires someone close to Antonio and Parke -- Nick Pacheco.

What kind of idiot pays to play with the wholesale produce market? Nick Pacheco.

What kind of person is connected to slimy mailers from a long time friend named Torres? Nick Pacheco.

What kind of idiot hires an untried inexperienced campaign manager whose only experience was one losing campaign after the other? Nick Pacheco.

So at the end of the day if you believe the conspiracy on Hacopian, then you really must question the intelligence of Nick Pacheco first.

No wonder he got his ass handed to him.

November 09, 2005 6:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's very interesting to me and others that AV and JH brought in about the same amount of votes. I hope Mayor Sam and Mayor Frank along with the press figure this one out...

November 09, 2005 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hacopian wasn't a spy, wasn't a plant, didn't hire any fundraisers, etc., etc. Just honest disagreements over strategy. And, unlike the previous blogger, I know.

November 09, 2005 6:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's see...3 words: Twenty Eight Points.

Damn...that's gotta hurt. Its like Pacheco's standing in the middle of Chavez and Soto (or in my part of town: Huntington and Monterey) during rush hour, bending over with his pants down and Huizar's spanking him!

This wasn't even a "taken out to the woodshed" spanking. This was about as public as can be. I repeat, DAMN! Michael Fay aint got nothing on Pacheco!

I suggest that all simpaticos send Pacheco some information on relocation, or good places for plastic surgery, or even great deals on property in Idaho. Damn, that boy's gonna need something.

I mean, damn!, with so much voter turnout, this boy LOST votes from 2003! 1,000 of them! Even those that went with his 39% 2 years ago, decided either to go with Huizar or the other 8 (did I mention 8?) other candidates. Ouch.

How's yo ass Pacheco? Nice and red from the spanking? You were lousy to begin with and never got better.

November 09, 2005 7:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 6:57

What the hell are you talking about? Same amount of votes? For what and when? If you're talking about 2003 you are way off. You must be the same lying pacheco SOB that said there were 600+ volunteers already signed in at yesterday morning's door hanging walk. I guess you folks never learn how to tell the truth.

November 09, 2005 7:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have come to the conclusion that the ruin of CD14 is due to the people that spend their time with pissy print on this site then to really do something. How do you say Dan Quayle in Spanish

November 09, 2005 8:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dan Quayle en Espanol?

Lauro Pacheco!

November 09, 2005 8:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thank God election day has come and gone and the northeast can breath a collective sigh of relief!

I and my friends and neighbors were, for a moment, worried about this race, that Pacheco might actually get elected (or re-elected). But thank God he didn't.

I have said in the past that Nick was really one of the worst things to happen to Eagle Rock. The discord he sowed, the cronyism he encouraged...his staff's lack of response to those groups and people he didn't get along with.

But it will not be repeated and I drink a glass of wine to that!

Despite all the blustering on this blog, this election was clearly a referendum on Nick. At least up here in the northeast, none of us knew Huizar until he ran.

But we knew Nick.

I think that Huizar's victory was more a response against Nick than for Huizar. Anybody But Nick.

Maybe Huizar will be great or just mediocre, but he will be better than Nick was. I know that Antonio's staff up here was top notch (a hell of a lot better than the previous). Its my hope that Antonio has Nick's staff trained by his Eagle Rock office staff. And you Nick campaign workers: if you're complaining about Villaraigosa staff, it can't possibly be from the Eagle Rock office, because they were really on it. Seriously.

The thing that most surprises me about this election here in Eagle Rock is the very strange endorsement of Nick by TERA's own Joanne Turner. Joanne, what were you thinking? A tiger never changes its stripes honey. Whatever you were smoking, I want some too, because it obviously blocks out all bad memories. That was seriously a bad judgement call. I'm sure you'll be apologizing to the TERA faithful soon.

Nick, you're still a neighbor and I wish you the best of luck. But one piece of advice: Please don't ever run for office in this area again. You are obviously not wanted. And that's now been proven 3 times.

November 09, 2005 8:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anybody who thinks Pacheco was running against Huizar is smoking strong stuff. Huizar made sure it was Antonio Villaraigosa running against Pacheco. Villaraigosa made sure Huizar was elected. Huizar would not have run (or won) under any other scenario.

Lined up against Pacheco was the mayor - the most powerful politician in California at the moment, as well as the leadership of the city council and 7 other members of the city council, most if not all "cajoled" by the mayor.

The mayor also got L.A. County Democrats and many unions to get behind Jose's candidacy.

Without the mayor's involvement, I believe the PPL and the Firefighters would have gone with Pacheco, as would a majority of the council.

Jose was instrumental in getting school construction companies behind his campaign.

But Jose Huizar won. He is the councilmember elect. But, please, don't insult thinking people by saying Huizar "beat" or "spanked" Nick Pacheco.

Antonio Vilaraigosa beat Nick Pacheco for a second time.

November 09, 2005 9:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Pacheco motherbloggers! Where are you? You sure spread a lot of crap during the campaign. oh, yeah, crying in the corner in some random bar because your delusional campaign crashed around you? dumbasses. Next time you hook your cart to a horse, make sure that horse ain't lame.

oh, by the way, I've read this blog for a while at times when I wasnt' working or volunteering at Huizar's campaign. unlike these Pachueco People, I worked on the campaign instead of sitting around blogging all day long. dumbasses

November 09, 2005 9:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Urteaga is a punk. He's the one who should get the relocation, plastic surgery and Idaho real estate info. I'm not sure to feel sorry for him because he bought Pacheco's bullsh*t or because he had convinced himself that the double talking Pacheco could actually win.

Bottom line: Robert Urteaga is a punk. You're done man

November 09, 2005 9:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Robert Urteaga is a good guy who just got some great experience. A lot of 28 year olds would envy him....seems you do - whatever your age!

November 09, 2005 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Guess what voters? Huizar and his butt buddies Ricardo Monroy (HE/SHE/Or Both), & David Cobb are risking what we now know now today in medical terms as "PROCTITIS."
(For those of you who do not know what it is, it is the inflammation of the anus/asshole. According to the American Medical Journal, there is a high percentage of proctitis in gay or bisexual men.

Maybe that is why you spent thousands of $$$$$$$$$$ to build a bathroom for your executives and you. We know you like to drop the soap.

November 09, 2005 10:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1) Urteaga is in his thirties, not 28.

He just looks like he's 18 and of course, has the political sophistication of a 12 year old.

2) The idea that Hacopian was a spy is ludicrous. Did he tell Pacheco to hire the pathetic John Edwards? Did he tell Pacheco to NOT recruit volunteers? Did he tell Pacheco to stop raising money?

I highly doubt it. Word is they fought over the precise things listed above.

Pacheco lost all his good people, and that shows a fundamental character flaw. Even the loyalists from 1999 did little more than give him a token check, and some refused to do even that.

November 09, 2005 10:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's time to move on in CD 14 history...

Huizar is a new puppet! (Bought & paid for...)

Pacheco is a stupid puppet! (Who didn't want to play by the rules!)

Antonio is the old puppet!(Who understands the rules even though he is not very smart, and they know it...)

Alatorre is an addicted puppet!
(Who didn't understand the rules & hooked on "frosted doughnuts." Ask Hilary Norton...)

Snyder is a molesting puppet!
Who could care less about the constituents and the rules as he ended up a sick old fool--beligerent druck-alleged child molester---PERVERT!!! SICKO000!!!

Lindsy is a _________puppet!

CD 14 Leadership?
Latino Leadership?
Yeah right!

November 09, 2005 10:33 PM  

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November 09, 2005 10:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have come to the conclusion that all of you are the same people that piss on cars in parking lots.

November 09, 2005 10:52 PM  

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November 09, 2005 10:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I will always love you Ricardo Monroy...

Your one and only Man with Balls,
Art Torres

November 09, 2005 10:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was a Pacheco supporter because I believed he was the best candidate with experience and a vision for the community.

However, now that Jose has won we all need to move on and support him. We need to try and work with Jose and let him know the issues we would like him to tackle. CD 14 has suffered for 2 yrs. Working against Jose will not help the cause. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go forward with a positive attitude. Stop blaming, critizing, hating, slamming people and let's all get to work.

November 10, 2005 7:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:19

Finally the truth comes out. You hit the nail on the head.

November 10, 2005 8:09 AM  

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November 10, 2005 8:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I worked as a precinct poll worker in Hermon, and I was questioned by an attorney for Pacheco -- but Woocher was not his name. He was a young guy who was with a more mature man who introduced himself as Lon Churofsky or something.

The younger man read me a list of questions about the handling of ballots and the transport of ballots.

He also asked me about voter confusion with the folded ballot, and the amount of training I received.

November 10, 2005 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Big O for School Board!

November 10, 2005 2:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 5:51:

You mean the same Ana Cubas that was fired by Alex Padilla and Jose Huizar? Please no one is going to support someone with her baggage.

Plus, the Board will likely take the undemocratic route and appoint someone to AV's liking which means Ana and most all the other rumored candidates are DOA.

November 10, 2005 9:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ana Cubas for school board? Never. She's not savvy enough to run for office and win. Too naive and lack political IQ needed to win.

Ricardo Monroy gay? Yes, makes sense. I remember when he first met Art Torres. Sparks flew and it got Ricardo started in politics. Although, his career is noting to envy.

November 11, 2005 1:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since 2003, district 14th, has been left behind without representation for a community in desparet need.

The only people that are celebrating with AV/Huizar
are CRA, MTA, Special Interest, contractors whom live outside the district 14th. Apparently the people throwing rocks at Nick, Don't know Nick Pacheco.

PACHECO did not loose, the people in district 14th lost. I have great respect for a men who was not afraid of running against AV 2003 and 2005 AV/JH, and he did a great job. He ran against Huizar/AV $$$money, Politicals that are afraid of AV.

Nick, help many politician stardin out as politicians, Padilla, Cedillo, Huizar and many more, and they turned their backs to Nick. so if you do that with a friend, what would they do to the people they represent?

Come on, we are not dum and blind, to see the numbers and not question as to who voted? Mexican culture does not change over night, we did not awaken a giant, Voting is not one of their priorities. How often did Huizar's Mother voted in the last ten years?

I am not convinced that 41%+ came out to vote, and Huizar, an unknown individual, even to his own neighbors in El Sereno won by 17K+ votes vs 9k. I think he was really afraid of Nick to find 10k votes. and who are this voters?

Huizar and AV, attended several churches on Sunday going to Mass, you will never see them again in a Church unless they are campaigning.

When Kristal Arceo walked up to AV to introduce herself, AV had no idea who she was, and he asked her if she knew Huizar, because he (AV) wanted to introduce her to Huizar, when Huizar turn to look at Kristal, he emmiadetely pull a polical flyer from Kristal and started to tell Antonio, how bad she had treated him. Like a little boy, "look Dad what she did to me" let me read it for you, Kristal 19 year old responded" Jose I believe the Mayor can read it for himself.
at the same place, Huizar's mom took a pamflet from Kristal Arceo (19 yr old) and ripped it and through it at Kristals Face in front of all the people.

November 13, 2005 11:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Half of the people who didn't vote for Huizar voted for someone other than Pacheco.

CD14 wanted anyone but Pacheco.

November 13, 2005 9:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mrs. Huizar is looking Porky.
Pleasantly Porky that is...

:-)

November 15, 2005 10:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar is petty and like a child.

His wife is fat.

November 20, 2005 3:31 AM  

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