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Wednesday, October 19, 2005

Sam's LA Briefs for Wednesday

We let yesterday pass without mentioning it was the 51st birthday of the transistor radio which was sort of the iPod of its generation. Compact and lightweight, people could use this fabulous new invention to carry music and programming with them. Its price at the time was $49.95, about $360 in today's dollars, not much different from the price of today's higher end iPods.

Brian Heckmann, the lone white guy Republican in the 14th Council District race will appear on Doug McIntyre's KABC Radio program tomorrow morning.

If you're a big fan of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, you'll love the short film put together by Mister Politics, available at his site. If you hate Arnold, you'll probably think the film is stupid.

Walter Moore explains how Mayor Villaraigosa is "suing himself." Read more about it at MS2.

And finally, Joe Mailander of Martin Republic parses the LA Chamber's endorsement of Jose Huizar for the CD 14 seat.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam... PLEASE note that most Latino's are also considered "white guys" by the U.S. Census. If you want to call Heckman a "non-Hispanic" white, then have at it - but, at least bring your (unnecessary?)categorization of people into the end of the 20th century, for intelligent creator's sake!?

Join the ranks of the informed "elite" or you MAY just be accused of being one of those "nasty" intolerant WASP Republicans that give the rest of us (Republicans) a bad name. This is supposed to be a non-partisan race, maybe someday soon we can get to where it's also a "non-racial" one, too?

(You really ARE from the Valley, aren't you!)

October 19, 2005 10:45 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Uh, it was sort of tongue in cheek.

You know its a bad thing to be a Republican White Guy, just ask Michael Moore or Barbra Streisand.

October 19, 2005 10:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Your "tongue" doesn't show online... first rule of blogging/Internet? You just look like an out-of-touch GOP operative.

By any modern standard of racial categorizing, there are 7 "white guys" running in CD14 (6 are also Hispanic or latino) only a few of which have openly noted which political party they actually belong to -- along with three women, one of which is of asian origin.

If you mean "WASP" why not say it? Race is a bitch to play games with, regardless of where you mean to stick your "tongue."

October 19, 2005 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I doubt any of those LAT-tee-NOS would refer to themselves as WHITE. Chief Parker is right HECKMAN is the white GUY

October 19, 2005 11:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Uh, I think it was Mayor Sam, not Chief Parker who wrote the article about the white guy.

October 19, 2005 11:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I GUARANTEE, they all checked "white" on their census form in 2000, in addition to maybe one or more other checks.

If people want to categorize THEMSELVES as something, let them. I doubt Heckmann is running around saying "I the white guy."

Don't paste labels around for other people, got it, my niggah?

(MAN, are intolerant Valley WASPs the only people left posting on this blog?)

October 19, 2005 11:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The poster is right. Chief FAKER isn't writing for the blog anymore. He is too busy looking for the 94 neigborhood watches (upped from 80 because in Judaism numbers divisible by 18 are good luck and Antonio is now a Jew.)

October 19, 2005 11:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How do jew know dis for sure?

94 + 18 = 5.2222222222222222...

LAUSD, huh?

October 19, 2005 11:37 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

What evidence do you have that the Mayor is a Jew and if true, what does it matter?

October 19, 2005 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, don't back off. You were right. Heckman's the only white guy in the race. The others are Hispanic/Latino.

Clearly these posters have issues when they're splittin' hairs and using census definitions.

You won't ever be confused for a WASPY Republican!

Anyone who know elections and politics has to handle the reality of race and ethnicity.

Sorry their little feelings were hurt.

October 19, 2005 11:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Doesn't "matter" if AV's a "jew" or not, but it does that Heckmann's "white"????

Damn, Sam, one thing "Republican White Guys" like us should ALL learn to do is NOT touch the third rail of race/ethnicity, even in jest.

Might want to re-think that whole game plan, fella!?

October 19, 2005 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There are only three "races" and none of them is "Hispanic" or Latino. If Latinos are not "white" then you're saying they're either black or Asian here? Better decide quick.

That's not "splitting hairs" -- that's facts.

Diversity training must be very poor up in the Valley schools.

Get right on that, okay Jose?

October 19, 2005 11:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BAD, bad "joke" Mayor Scam.

It may be "tough" to be a "RWG", but you can only increase how tough it in on you to keep making it CLEAR how aware you are of your "whiteness" in an increasingly more diverse city.

Go with the flow; where all just "peeps."

October 19, 2005 11:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hi, I'm Brian, the "gringo" candidate from Eagle Rock.

Nah, not the best positioning!

October 19, 2005 12:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"My name's the easiest one to pronounce, Heck-man?" Just ask Tony Cardenas and Steve Lopez how important that is in L.A. elections.

(Still needs work).

October 19, 2005 12:10 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

If you're hung up on race, you really need to get a life.

That is why I pointed out that Heckman is the only Republican white guy.

As far as I know, there are no other Republican anythings running for that seat.

Blog away dum dums.

October 19, 2005 12:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If WE are hung up on race?

If WE are. . .??

DUDE, you brought up RACE, first, then tried to defend the reference (badly). You COULD have just said the only REPUBLICAN to make the point you NOW say you were actually trying to make.

Guilty, guilty, guilty, (and lousy at dancing out of the shitpile, too).

October 19, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought white Republican guy was redundant.

October 19, 2005 12:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Smelt it, dealt it, "Mayor" - you did bring it up, first! Even if you do now say it was a joke. (What would Freud say about that?)

You also can't hide behind the anonymity, anymore, like when Trujillo/Parker used to say here he was a middle-aged, moderate GOP ex-veteran, (but supporting AV, "regardless"). Now THAT was a joke.

October 19, 2005 12:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In good company there?

"In a San Francisco speech, DNC Chairman Howard Dean characterized Republicans as 'a pretty monolithic party. They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party.'

October 19, 2005 12:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Damn, Brian H.'s flyers also say he goes to CHURCH!

October 19, 2005 12:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're confusing Trujillo with Parke.

October 19, 2005 1:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:52 -

Actually, moron, there is no such thing as "race." The three "races" are arbitrary definitions that have absolutely no scientific grounding or basis, rather reflects a crude phenotypic construct.

In fact, that's why the term "ethnic" is used in its place. Ethnic refers to shared cultural, geographic, national, linguistic and/or religious heritage. Ethnic, therefore, reflects a reality that cannot be dismissed by stupidly suggesting a false sense of colorblindness.

We all understood what Mayor Sam meant by "the lone white guy republican." And particularly in political terms, regardless of the census' definition, that reality matters at the ballot box.

October 19, 2005 1:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks, 1:05 p.m. "genius," for the studious clarification.

SO which of the "little brown candidates" will you be voting for... I'll BET I know?

As someone who appears "white" to most people, but isn't by any definition, I understand EXACTLY what one "white" guy means when he refers to another WASP as "white". People make these comments to me all the time, thinking I'm "one" too. I've learned more than any 10 sociologists could ever dream of finding out.

It's very clear profiling (wink, wink). "One of 'us' vs. one of 'them.'"

And, it will continue to "matter" at the ballot box, as long as people keep winking and nodding like this at each other, when they think it's just "us" listening.

ALSO, since "ethnic" is your main faillback defense -- which ethnicity is "white", based on your theory, genius?

October 19, 2005 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor sam stepped in it again. Maybe you better figure out another way to become anonymous again.

"Mayor Bradley" ins't taken. That would be ironic.

October 19, 2005 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If a Hispanic or Black blogger called him the lone white guy, no one would notice. Mayor Sam made a point he is the only white candidate in the race. So what?

The guy who is posting that he is a Republican offended by Mayor Sam is not a Republican, he works in our office, he is a SEIU rep and local Dem club officer.

October 19, 2005 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I know cause I was standing over his shoulder while he typed.

October 19, 2005 1:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's amazing about the latest Huizar endorsement announcement (Chamber) is what's missing so far in his campaign, more than anything.

Tons of high profile endorsements to date and still no evidence from Jose's camp - either from an independent, or even internal (i.e.,. suspect) poll - that he's making up ground against Pacheco. They've left unchallenged for nearly two months now Pacheco's asertion that they started this race 20+ points up.

There isn't a political stategy in existence that would let that lie unchallenged this long, no "rope-a-dope" that dopey, if there was any way to show numbers otherwise - even if only to keep the money flowing.

Should Pacheco win in the primary or even come out substantively ahead going into a runoff, which is the most likely scenario, then a lot of organizations, unions, and individual politicians who jumped on the AV/Huizar bandwagon will be looking around trying to figure out if they just invalidated their own political clout and neutered their voice by appearing to be nothing more than a rubber-stamp for the mayor's wishes. In the case of city council members, then, that means becoming an unnecessary redundancy in local government.

The other candidates smell it, and they're the closest to the "street." They're all attacking Huizar now, believing he's #2 and more vulnerable, and thus the best place to aim their barbs.

These are pretty classic primary dynamics, but no single pundit in local media is picking up these very strong signals that Huizar may have peaked at 20+ percent and any "new" undecideds are looking for less a "political" option.

October 19, 2005 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


HUGE liar. That was me, and I've never paid union dues in my life, and would slice my wrists before I'd let that happen.

October 19, 2005 2:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

P.S. I also "type" with my back to the wall (like Mayor Sam is now).

October 19, 2005 2:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'll bet Brian Heckmann, for one, wishes people like Mayor Sam wouldn't keep mentioning "race" in the CD14, considering the demographics of the district.

October 19, 2005 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I forget, did the owners of this blog ever refer to Hertzberg as Hahn's "lone white guy democratic" challenger in the mayoral race earlier this year?

Don't THINK so. What makes CD14 so "special" then to get this kind of attention to race?

Oh, wait, if the "ethnicity" guy is correct, then that means Hertzberg isn't "white" -- or is he? I'm confused.

October 19, 2005 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, well, I betcha Mayor Sam just wishes this thread would go away, entirely.

October 19, 2005 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gee, 2:03, you're right. The Huizar people must be idiots. After all, Pacheco releasing his internal polling 10 weeks ago sure has dried up the money and endorsements for Huizar. I mean, he may not outspend Pacheco 3 to 1, and Xavier Becerra hasn't endorsed him yet. I guess they're going to lose now.

An alternative explanation may be that Huizar is confident enough and has strong enough momentum that he doesn't need to engage in transparent spin games with Pacheco.

October 19, 2005 2:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Computer terminals from SEIU Local 99 are the ones who like to mention Trujillo the most.

Why you guys don't realize that IP addresses can on by the authors is beyond me.

Hey Trujillo -- most of the hate comes from SEIU local 99 -- i wouldn't want to be local 99 folks now that this info is out there.

October 19, 2005 3:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam said...
What evidence do you have that the Mayor is a Jew and if true, what does it matter?

October 19, 2005 11:38 AM

Mayor Sam, it does matter if he is a Jew or not. It matters because as Assembly Speaker he slid 1
$18 million to the Museum of Tolerance, ever check out what those "adminstrators" are making over there. Tony the Liar gave aquat to Boyle Heights, who do you think needed it more?

As for proof, I'm sure there are plenty of women out there that can prove or disprove this.

October 19, 2005 3:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Coupla points...

Hertzberg wasn't the lone white guy.

Trujillo isn't as big time as you guys think.

That radio sure does look like a prehistoric iPod!

October 19, 2005 3:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't you guys get it? Mayor Sam is smarter than all of you. He starts this bogus thing about Heckmann being the lone white guy to cause a DIS-traction and take your attention away from his buddy Antonio and what he's doing.

Everytime there is something about Antonio going on, the Mayors post four articles about other stuff. Antonio/Parke instruct them to do this.

October 19, 2005 3:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:57 p.m.

Put up or shut up - it's that simple. If Huizar's people are that confident (based on some, as-yet revealed facts?), they'd be relaying the word to their supporters and the undecideds at this critical time.

Pacheco beat a better funded, more-endorsed candidate backed by the powerbases of the city for this seat six years ago when no one even knew Pacheco's name. Now he has deep, dedicated grass roots support in every community based on a full term in that office, and a stead stream of improvements to the district interrupted only by the selfish ambition of a vindictive challenger.

Your alternative explanation "might" fly if we weren't talking about the same campaign team that ran AV's race a few months ago, that was even more "confident" then, and yet had polls out on their doorstep every week to shore up the less confident flanks and keep the money train moving. If they had ANY real proof of substantive momentum (other than in the number of primarily out-of-district endorsements) -- in the actual vote race, they'd be using it, now, when the absentees are flying back in to be counted.

No one said Huizar's handlers are stupid; their just shooting blanks this time.

October 19, 2005 3:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:29 p.m.

Never said what you just said... if you're going to try and refute something, take the WHOLE thing in context and read ALL the way to the end. . .

"I forget, did the owners of this blog ever refer to Hertzberg as Hahn's "lone white guy democratic" challenger in the mayoral race earlier this year?"

SEE, it says:


You left out half the words to try and prove your "point."

Failed that.

October 19, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wasn't Hertzburg Jewish?

October 19, 2005 3:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What, you saying "Jewish" ain't white?

Now we're really going from frying pan to fire.

October 19, 2005 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor...with all due respect, at city hall there is a rumor. The rumor goes like this:

When the Mayor met with the Danoch family and was told he resembled a Yemenite, Antonio began to speak to everyone on how he always felt jewish. Huh?

Exactly, you heard it, he has alwyas FELT jewish. Personally, I FEEL he was kissing ass.

October 19, 2005 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wow. You people are really sick in the head.

Anti-Mayor Sam.
Anti-Mayor Frank.
Anti-Mayor Villaraigosa.

That makes for a solid base of support for Pacheco.

October 19, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:06 PM You are so stupid. IP addresses my ass. No one is privy to this information. Unless you work for the 17th floor, and I would definitely know that one.

Don't worry this asshole is bluffing on the IP's.

Blog away, asshole 3:06 has no life.

October 19, 2005 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:32 PM So what is it that the Mayor is distracting us from?

Was it the LAUSD scandal, how Cooley will not prosecute, who is involved?

Is it Huizar and developers, friends of Villaraigosa. I think it was the part where he struck that deal with Zen and he lost 260 million tax dollars for the city for the next 25 years. What an asshole giving away all this money when the city is broke.

October 19, 2005 4:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Who's "you people", you asshole? Is that some kind of racist crack?

I posted a couple of those "anti's" but not all of them, and NOW I'm being profiled and stereotyped as a "you people" by intolerant Huizar supporters lumping us all together. How about you hold off on the stereotyping and keep your ad-ho-hum-hominems to your own self.

October 19, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've felt a little jewish at times, but she slapped my face.

Is that what he meant?

October 19, 2005 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No kidding, these little lock-step Jose-lovers act like all the other candidates supporters are sitting in a room together pondering every post together and debating who goes next.

Maybe that's the way they do it... but I fly SOLO! No "script" from the handlers, no bogus spin points.

Just what I see and what I know!

October 19, 2005 4:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's something bigger out there that no one wants to discuss.

It's called ALIEN TRANSPLANTATION. The Mayor and Huizar know about it and are working feverishly to cover it up. And who is aiding them in this cover-up? That's right - LABOR UNIONS and LAUSD ADMINISTRATORS. The headquarters is based in, you guessed it, the heart of CD14.

You see, once the aliens fully transplant themselves in our City (via suspended conformation) we'll all be at their mercy. The Unions will obtain big contracts from them and the so-called "Mayor" and "Huizar" will get the donations. The end result will be that our kids will end up mining for the aliens and LAUSD gets off the hook of their [wink-wink] budget mess.

Only one candidate sees the BIG PICTURE. That's made the difference for those community people like myself.

That's why we overwhelmingly (like 90%+) support Pacheco.

October 19, 2005 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You must be wrong - CD14 has no "heart." AV ripped it out when he broke his promise not to run for mayor (it comes up in every candidate's forum, and it's NOT Pacheco mentioning it -- its just about every other candidate, except Huizar of course.

October 19, 2005 4:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I posted a couple of those anti's but not all of them." - 4:21

Sounds like a confession to me.

I think it was pretty clear who I was referring to. You fit the profile. YOU PEOPLE know who you are.

Your friend,

October 19, 2005 4:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Confession? Guilty of free speech, huh?

Thanks for explaining further, asshole. Now we know what totalitarian control freaks YOU PEOPLE are. You hero-worshiping "consensus" builders really do freak when free-thinkers refuse the "party line" and actually decide who to support based on those little, unimportant things like accomplishments, track record, and experience -- as opposed to ENDORSEMENTS and CONTRIBUTIONS (most of them from outside the district).

I CONFESS, I don't give a rats ass who the last CM, who jumped ship and left things a mess, prefers.

October 19, 2005 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How DO you like with the guilt, 5:05 p.m.

October 19, 2005 5:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ho did this thread get all out of control and off topic -- we were talking about why Mayor Sam feels the need to ID people by race?

October 19, 2005 5:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now, be nice, some of the dead mayor's BEST, outed ex-partners on the blog are not-necessarily white/Hispanics, right?

October 19, 2005 5:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear 5:05,

I commend you for being honest and admitting to your list of "anti" comments. I think it was noble.

Maybe I did go a little overboard lumping your negative attacks with the other similar negative attacks.

I never meant to challenge your freedom of speech. And I ask you to forgive me for exercising mine when I used the term "you people."

You're right. Freedom of speech is good for you, but not for those who disagree with you. Thanks for pointing that out.

Sincerest Apologies,

October 19, 2005 5:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nice way to avoid the "accomplishments" dig. MAV/Parke taught you well.

Can they do it for 3.75 more years, however?

October 19, 2005 5:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


(No specific reason, just hadn't mentioned it in awhile, and was about to bust!)

October 19, 2005 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why is it racist when Mayor Sam calls a White guy white?

October 19, 2005 6:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You notice that last poster, he used the race comment when we start speaking of AV's corruption...

October 19, 2005 6:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jose is a no-show at the debates that took place in the last two weeks. Again tonight they show him as a not confirmed. What's up? Is he too afraid to be slammed by all the candidates? Seems all the LAUSD mess is catching up with him. Antonio shamelessly told people at the Northeast Crime Prevention FAir to vote for him and got sneers. Think CD14 is still angry of the mess Antonio left behind.

October 19, 2005 6:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:30 p.m.

Is it past your bedtime, or can you just not read?

MS opened this can of worms by saying the "only white guy" candidate when ALL the "guy" candidates are "white" by the most common, accepted racial definitions used in these disconnected 50 states... the U.S. CENSUS.

What COULD be racist is saying it about ONE, and NOT the others, when the "others" are of a different ETHNIC group than is the ONE (so-called) "white" guy, (but an ethnic group that IS still within the "RACE" called "white" - with some exceptions (e.g., afro-cubans, etc.)

I don't expect you to keep up; don't try. Your question shows you're not capable, but in case ANY one else skims this and thinks that what YOU just included in your STUPID question ("what's wrong with calling a white guy white" ... SHEESH), might be even similar to the statement that actually RAISED the issue in the first place -- maybe this will help "others."

October 19, 2005 7:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't think 5:20 p.m. was really being sincere (call me a skeptic).

October 19, 2005 7:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which "Northeast Crime Prevention Fair?"

What day was this held on. I'm not sure if it was the same event my sister attended. She said our Mayor got booed when he mentioned Huizar.

October 19, 2005 7:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:20 is what you call a


"A commenter whose sole purpose is to attack the views expressed on a blog, for example, a liberal going to a conservative blog, or vice versa. Many trolls will leave their remarks on multiple posts and continue to visit the blog, sparking spirited debate amongst the blog's regular readers. Trolls' verbosity can range from eloquent to crass, although most trolls probably fall into the latter category."

October 19, 2005 7:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Major story on DWP corruption and campaign donations. Gee, wonder why Chick doesn't want to do an audit??????

...DWP is telling us to keep our mouths shut,” said another.
When they turned to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 18, the workers say, union representatives Russ Butow and Ken Delgado tried to mollify them but failed to protect jobs or the DWP’s resources. The DWP workers, many of whom live in Los Angeles and must choose between a three-hour commute or living away from their families, say the IBEW has allowed Ch2M Hill, a Colorado company, to push them aside, hire private workers and run up costs on the city — which is using borrowed money for 70 percent of the project. Private workers on Owens Lake outnumber IBEW members by 2-to-1, according to sources at the site, not including the independent subcontractors that Ch2M Hill has hired. The DWP has approved the hiring of 20 union workers, but so far only two have been hired, employees say.

DWP officials are just now looking into how millions of its dollars have been spent, despite two retroactive approvals by the City Council for cost increases since 2002 and a third amendment that raised Ch2M Hill’s contract to $106 million, in 2004. Earlier this year, according to the workers, DWP senior internal auditor Winetta J. Leslie conducted an audit of the project. DWP officials did not return calls for comment. By Wednesday afternoon the DWP had not released the audit report. And recently, DWP chief operating officer James McDaniel, in charge of the water system, had safety manager Leland Gong investigate allegations of OSHA violations, waste and mismanagement, workers say. McDaniel did not return calls for comment. Gong is on vacation.

Independent subcontractors are surprised the DWP has stood by as contracting costs have spiraled out of control. “Time and materials is pretty wide open,” says a subcontractor who has worked on the project. “And it’s pretty easy to get a change order.”

October 19, 2005 7:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Self-proclaimed "trolls" may style themselves as devil's advocates, gadflies or "culture jammers"

October 19, 2005 7:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, Parke Skelton has been teaching our Mayor some 3rd grade words. Wow! He is a genius!

Parke Skelton is Villaraigosa's Mayoral campaign consultant and admirer of Icelandic Sagas.

Why did the mayor choose to call the media trolls after the election, his true feelings are apparent.

October 19, 2005 7:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:



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October 19, 2005 7:29 PM  

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October 19, 2005 7:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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October 19, 2005 8:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To posters 6:59 and 7:10 -

Obviously Pacheco campaign workers. If you would have been at the Northeast Open House and Resource Fair (you didn't even have the name right) you would have known that Villaraigosa did not get sneers or boos. On the contrary he got mobbed by people wanting autographs and pictures with him - like he does everywhere he goes. I was there and saw it. Matter of fact whenever he's here in northeast and Eagle Rock he always gets a rock star greeting. Don't be so obvious in your lies. And that whole thing you idiots say about him screwing up the district is wrong as well. What I know is that Eagle Rock has been peaceful the past 2 1/2 years without all the in-fighting that occurred before Villaraigosa was the councilman. He never pitted one group against another. Also he got those Vons bungalows knocked down which was a huge magnet for crime here. Also because of him, we now have a community garden with water hookups and fencing. I and my friends feel different from you in that this place has been taken care of during his time.

October 19, 2005 8:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous poster, do we say cut right about now?

Let's roll the tape again and try one more time.

This time, get the lines right. What am I paying you for...get the lines right.

Villaraigosa & Camp

October 19, 2005 8:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Lay off the booze. Not funny and get back to campaigning. Surely there's a few more people you can bother tonight before you fully commit yourself to blogging inane statements.

October 19, 2005 9:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

teraforma (UNION LEADER) said...


October 19, 2005 9:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:



October 19, 2005 9:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Teraform blogs here now and then. Always saying that he will not vote for Pacheco, his neighbors will not vote for Pacheco...I know who you are and I am a neighbor. I will vote for Pacheco if I want. Do not speak for me green boy.

October 19, 2005 9:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The poster by the name Teraforma is a council district 14 staffer.

The troll responds to bait and dishes distraction.

New troll, but has been consistent every month with one or two comments. It posts in defense of the CD 14 staff...why? Because it is a staffer.

October 19, 2005 9:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Horticulture is my passion and I wish I spoke Portuguese. Is this how you say Portuguese?

October 19, 2005 9:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"This is a win-win situation," Villaraigosa declared at a City Hall news conference. "We were able to bring together people who had legitimate differences and come to a common solution."

The plan, approved by the City Council on Sept. 30, gives Wolff Development and Apollo Real Estate Advisors a $16 million, below-market loan from the Community Redevelopment Agency and $4 million in city fee waivers.

The city also has agreed to forgo room-tax revenues from the hotel for 25 years. Zen had vowed to fight the plan in court or at the polls because he said it would have given the new hotel an advantage over his hotel and others in downtown. The newly announced condominium-conversion plan will allow the Bonaventure to remain competitive, he said.

October 19, 2005 9:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

However, some have questioned whether the deal is in the best interest of taxpayers, and whether enough new convention business can be generated to justify the expense.

"It's one of those things that drives me crazy," said Joel Kotkin, senior fellow at the New American Foundation. "I keep asking, Why are we building this hotel? If we have a white elephant of a Convention Center, which everyone agrees to, then why are we building this hotel?

"The convention business is basically cyclical. They keep moving around from city to city. And, how many large conventions are we going to get to justify this?

"We already get a lot of the smaller groups that don't need a convention center. And, if it is going to be so profitable, then why should the public pay for it?"

But Leiweke said the public-financing package is critical to showing investors the city is committed to the hotel's success and to the future of l.a. live.

Villaraigosa said he is confident of the project's success, with estimates that at least 10 million people a year will come to the l.a. live venue.

October 19, 2005 9:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Didn't Villaraigosa say many times he would not have the public pay for a football team to come to Los Angele's, but he has public money to throw at these developers?

October 19, 2005 9:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"We had a situation in Beverly Hills where 500 workers lost their jobs when a hotel converted to condos," Durazo said. "Under this agreement, we know what will be coming and our workers will have some protections."


October 19, 2005 9:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dump Zev in 2006

October 19, 2005 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


To wit:


(I DON'T CAMPAIGN, BUT I AM A UNION MEMEBER)Good for you. Never questioned your labor creds. Does your shop steward know you flake out during campaigns? Bet I know how you're voting on that certain prop.

(DID YOU MEAN, TELL THE TRUTH TO..EXPOSE YOUR LIES...SPEAK MY MIND)You said nothing of the sort regarding truth. Just some kind of stupid joke about paying me to say lines and being with Villaraigosa & Camp. So if you are "speaking truth" yet you say you "don't campaign" then how are you with 'Villaraigosa & Camp'? Seems that your truth telling is somewhat truth-challenged...well, make that a lot truth-challenged, or inane at the least.

(YOU ARE DOING QUITE WELL WITH INANE STATEMENTS AND WITHOUT ANYONE ELSES HELP)...well, I think we addressed this example of an inane quip in the last quote. No sense piling on.

Well, nice try. You don't know who I am. And you certainly aren't my neighbor. Green boy? Jeez...you're off by many light years in soooooo many ways. If you truly live in Eagle Rock you'd give examples,like I have today and in the past, of why you feel the way you do instead of simply throwing up inflammatory statements.

Green Boy???....that's a laugher. Actually you remind me of a person I knew who was a comedienne. Lets just say, she found another line of work.

October 19, 2005 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


"L.A. Live hotel won't see vote
The public will not decide if the project should receive millions of dollars in public subsidies."
By David Zahniser
Copley News Service

Los Angeles officials have struck a deal to prevent a downtown businessman from asking voters to decide whether a new 55-story downtown hotel project should receive millions of dollars in public subsidies, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said Monday.


"Westin Bonaventure hotel executive Peter Zen dropped his effort to force a citywide vote on the plan, which allows a 1,100-room hotel near the Los Angeles Convention Center to keep up to $270 million in municipal hotel taxes it is expected to generate over the next 25 years."

October 19, 2005 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:45 PM
What is the point of your post? Nothing...absolutely nothing.

You're unique in many ways, i just won't say more about your problems on this blog.

You may know me, I used to be your friend, drank with you before I quit the booze, and now I am in another line of work, it is working for a liar at City Hall. Yes, you know who I am.

October 19, 2005 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Like your "green boy" commenter, you are also sooo far from correct. Just because I talk positive about Villaraigosa and don't like Pacheco does not mean that I work for the man. I guess with your logic, everyone who is saying they are "changing their vote for Pacheco" or "CD 14 is mess and Pacheco is a great leader" and so on, is a Pacheco staffer. Also by your generalist and faulty logic, I can only assume you are a Pacheco staffer.Am I correct then?

I just happen to like what has happened here in Eagle Rock with Villaraigosa and am expressing myself. Like you say, I do check in every once and am not a regular like many others. Just happens to be that I have a job and a family that occupies a great portion of my time.

October 19, 2005 9:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Well...you got me stumped. Have no idea who you are. Pretty silly post you had, but definitely glad you stopped drinking if that was a problem. I'm sure your family is proud of you. And since you aren't reading the references to my 9:45 post, I was merely responding to some other posts. That's the point. Nothing more than that.

October 19, 2005 10:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Likewise. The only thing different here is that you mentioned you speak positive about the man (Villaraigosa). On the contrary, I have not endorsed anyone in this race. By the way, I did not say, "changing their vote for Pacheco" or "CD 14 is mess and Pacheco is a great leader" and so on..." This is not my logic, but your perception.

In essence, I am not a staffer for any current political candidate. I was once a staffer for a political candidate and currently work under a politician. Thus, you know me, you might be a bit fogged on who I might be, but think a bit harder. I dislike what the liar at city hall is doing, however my work exceeds expectations. Oh, do not get any ideas, I am not a staffer at a local office, such as Eagle Rock.

If you like what has happened in Eagle Rock, good for you. Thousands of people feel different of our mayor. Let me help you again, I do not share the logic you describe, but I do work for a tyrant. I do not work in Eagle Rock, although at one time I did. Riddle, riddle, see you this weekend.

October 19, 2005 10:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ho is David "Brown Beret" Sanchez?

Is he a good candidate?

October 19, 2005 10:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Propostition Arnold: Election '05
José vs. Nick
The past confronts the future for control of L.A.’s Eastside political machine

Dear Bloggers,

You must read the articly by Robert Greene (LAWEEKLY). It is the best!


October 19, 2005 10:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I respond only to specific posts. I don't need to repost all over the place. I leave that to the Pacheco folks who think bringing down Mayor Villaraigosa will win them votes.

Lastly, while you may want to define me as a troll, I think I was pretty clear about myself.

Your friend,

October 19, 2005 10:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Linda Herbert, r u blogging here?

October 19, 2005 11:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar said, “You know, Nick has a style of campaigning. I mean, God bless. He sent out an e-mail announcing the dog-park opening. He’s making it seem like he’s the council member and he’s doing this, and come join me that day, so that if people do go that day, [they'd think] oh, this is a Nick Pacheco event. And it’s a city event! And you know, that type of — that’s not my style. I wouldn’t put things out there that kind of twist the truth or play games. And you know. I hope it’s not, but you never know. The fact is, he’s starting that way. That’s his style, I think.”

Does this mean it was a Huizar clone at the citywide cleanup with the Mayor at Roosevelt. I swear I saw Huizar, but he says he doesn't do these types of things...hmmmm....

October 19, 2005 11:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yea, that boy is a hypocrite. He was at the city wide clean up. He was also taking the stage as if he was the main event. he got booed and got off stage and took advantage for political gain.

Do not vote for a hypocrite!

October 19, 2005 11:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not linda herbert....

Who is the tyrant at city hall? I work under the tyrant that some of you love blindly, and others hate passionately.

I can't give you more clues than this...if you don't know by now, then you are playing games.

October 19, 2005 11:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you must work for CD 10!

October 19, 2005 11:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

nobody booed Huizar at the clean up. I was there. u r wrong.

October 19, 2005 11:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Were you the one busy eating free donuts during Huizar's speech?

Way, way, way in the back.

October 19, 2005 11:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rick Jacobs
The chair of the new Courage Campaign on how to re-grow the grass roots in California’s Democratic Party


"If you’ve studied the voting patterns over the last few presidential elections, it’s easy to see: California has been trending red..."

"How is the grass roots supposed to plug in?
Let’s look at voter turnout, which is really, really scary. If I did my math correctly, I think 9 percent of the eligible voters in L.A. elected Antonio Villaraigosa mayor. It’s a startlingly low number..."

October 19, 2005 11:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


My brother in arms where have you been?

Also to 10:14pm -- if you are trying to imply you work for villaraigosa you don't we know where the IM's come from and its you never worked for the Mayor. You did work for another councilmember though...

Last piece of info --- the caps are now broken.

May the Pacheco campaign finally RIP.

October 20, 2005 1:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Awwww, was the poor Pacheco-hater feeling lost and lonely on the big bad blog?

Now you have a partner in slime?

Huizar has all the endorsements in town, and one blogger at a time defending his candidacy here.

So much for "mastering the Internet" as a campaign tool, Parkee. Took months to even get Huizar's so-called "accomplishments" invented or "issues" up on their own Website, staff can't answer e-mails to get on a list of attendees at candidate forums in the district or even monitor local discussion listservs well enough to know when they might be taking place.

The CAPS are off, alright -the "thinking" caps, that is. All kinds of dollars, but little or "cents".

October 20, 2005 3:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When the election is over, the city doesn't have much if anything at all to do with education of our children. Anyone trying to push that as the main issue doesn't know the real issues...

The color of someone's skin doesn't make them a better representative in city hall.

It's the issues...and knowing the 14th district. Not just a section or small community within the district.

Quit insulting the residents of the 14th.

October 20, 2005 5:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

People in CD14 are now asking why weren't ANY NEW SCHOOLS BUILT TO HELP ROOSEVELT? If Jose was truy concerned about his community why were the schools built in South LA???? How can he answer that? Antonio is not liked in many parts of the district. He may be liked in Eagle Rock but its because all city services and the moron staff members cater to the rich people on that side of town. Go to Boyle Heights where illegal vendors are on every street corner. Antonio supports illegal vendors and does nothing, yet in Lincoln Heights you don't see them cause Ed Reyes won't tolerate it. Antonio is a magnet for illegals.

October 20, 2005 8:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:50 AM WRONG! Our Mayor ran on the EDUCATION ISSUE.

Guess What? He has done ZILCH!

October 20, 2005 8:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I M ?????What the heck is that?

October 20, 2005 8:39 AM  

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