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Wednesday, May 11, 2005

Some of you people make this old Mayor sick

Mayor Sam and hottieSometime today or perhaps yesterday, someone set up a blog as an alternative to Mayor Sam. Fair enough.

Their feeling was that because I've taken a hard line on cutting & pasting, as well as deleting messages that go too far over the top delving into folks personal lives, that I practice censorship. Fair enough. This is a private operation, we can do that. They planned to offer a blog where anyone could say anything (of course within the realms of Blogger's rules I would imagine).

In their few short hours of life, there was a lot of cutting and pasting going on and even some personal attacks on the Mayor - not unlike the attacks we have seen on here on Tony Villar - that had they been posted here, they would have been deleted.

In just checking out the new blog, I see the owner has already decided to shut it down because they have received threats. That is unfortunate. Its the same damn thing that shut down the Fourth Floor Blog, which was a tragedy.

Since Fourth Floor went down, only this blog has been able to catch on where others didnt't. We intend to go on, whether its Mayor Villar, Mayor Poopy, or whatever. We will remain the rough and tumble for LA, and yes, if you go to far to make the blog non enjoyable (yes, in my opinion but I own the damn thing) I will tweak things and may just delete your post. But you can always come back.

Oh by the way - even though I own this damn blog - I don't live here. So sometimes I may miss some bullshit postings that I would have deleted had I seen. I don't always read every post. So if you see something really offending and are pissed off I haven't checked it out, you can always email me.

Now, go play on the freeway and keep blogging away dum dums.

40 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That other blog is not shutting down, an anonymous poster posted that data of threats, but it was still not deleted. Bon Voyage!

May 11, 2005 6:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You don't LIVE here... are you carpetbagging like Tony had to last time to stay eligible?

Oh yeah, that's right, your DEAD -- don't "live" anywhere!

May 11, 2005 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Do Hahn's new TV ad is up. It's pretty low, even for him. Basically its "Villaraigosa, friend of people who kill children."

May 11, 2005 6:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just went to that other site and it is still running.

May 11, 2005 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So GOD forbid, ADV wins... CD 14 gets to have a "special" election - probably early next year, and then in another 12-15 months or so the next REGULAR council election (probably primary AND general, since there would be no real incumbent to do a cakewalk).

Those poor SOB's will have been the most tromped over battlefield in the city for FIVE municipal elections over as period of SIX years -- 3 CM races, two VERY nasty mayorals involving a Homie. (Just call them "Poland").

No wonder they're blogging their little fingers to the bone trying to turn ADV back. Expensive, dirty, bitter, scum-slinging in the streets for more than half the elapsed time, from 2001-2007. (To say nothing of a state recall, a LONG presidential), DAMN! Take your hat off for this little piece of purgatory, bloggers -- no matter who you support.

No wonder there aren't as many lawn signs up this time. The damn grass needs a REST (and so do the people).

THEN, you got the high homicide rates in the southern two-thirds of the turf... "Come to CD14, where the political hacks get rich off the campaign coffers of the fleet-of-foot!"

May 11, 2005 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sure "Megan" would approve, 6:35 p.m., wherever she's watching from. . .

May 11, 2005 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://finallysayithere.blogspot.com

May 11, 2005 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV, if you don't want to have to defend your voting record, then just "abstain" littleman. Otherwise, it's ON you!

You HAD to know when you cast those lone-wolf, "look at me, I'm out on as limb sawing away" votes than someone was keeping track.

"I made a mistake," "I'm sorry," "I wouldn't vote the same way now," "there were other 'issues" involved (that NObody else in the room saw)."

That stuff just doesn't cut in now that you're re-re-re-re-formed (again).

It's ON you Antonio. Maybe its just means you don't HAVE the character to move ahead any further? People get a little pissed at this stuff, and what part of "protect the weak and helpless, first -- before the violent cons" did you JUST not understand then -- but you suddenly, conVENIENTLY do... now, for THIS race.

May 11, 2005 6:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nail his little con-coddling hide to the board Mayor Jimmy... pound those nails hard!

May 11, 2005 6:56 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Some people can not comprehend.

That's why they go to work for politicians like Jim Hahn.

Have any of Hahn's staff worked in private industry by the way? And I mean real private industry not working in govt. affairs at Kaiser or SBC or some bullshit like that.

To the asshole who thinks I meant I don't live in LA, what I meant was I don't live on the freaking Blog donkey shit for brains.

Now go suck on a chain saw.

May 11, 2005 7:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LAPD officers don't want a mayor who supports gang bangers, child abusers, let off a drug dealer Viganli and forgot about the 30 blacks still doing time, constantly cheats on his wife with any woman, has 3 kids out of wedlock and can't keep his zipper up, a man who has a police record, has a zero record as a councilman, aligns himself with Parks who they hate, Danny Bakewell who threaten to burn down the city and I'm sure now that his other buddy Jesse Jackson here on the Compton shooting will threaten again, takes credit for others hard work, failed to keep all his promises, doesn't give a shit about the crime in his own district but just today was in Pacific Palisades talking to those residents about public safety when Boyle Hegiths has 16 homicides. Gee, no wonder his constituents don't like him, sold LA to Miami etc. etc. Now, I'm sure little fat boy MEAT will chime in with more lies.

May 11, 2005 7:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

YOu guys should be out walking precincts if you really want your worthless candidate to win.

Jimmy hammer a nail?

His wrists are so limp it is doubtful he could swing a hammer himself, but he could call Ted Stein, or Troy Edwards, or Doug Dowie, or James Acevedo, or Nick Tonsich, or John Stodder, or Leland Wong, or Julie Butcher, or Chris Hammond, or Bill Carrick or Bill Wardlaw.

But not Jimmy. Too much like work.

May 11, 2005 7:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just saw Hahn's new ad. Smart move to use the victim's mom as the spokesperson to point out that Villaraigosa was the only vote against increasing penalties for child abusers who kill the kid.

It is going to be tough for AV to attack the mother. Let's see what they come up with.

He should have left his ACLU credentials at the door for that vote.

May 11, 2005 7:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's [Hahn's ad] pretty low, even for him. Basically its "Villaraigosa, friend of people who kill children."

I saw the ad it doesn't say he's their friend. It asks the question WHY he would be soft on them?

Anybody know WHY he would be the LONE vote against 25 year min. sentence for child abuser who kills the victim?

LONE VOTE???????? WHY???????

May 11, 2005 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NAsty Anon said:

"But not Jimmy. Too much like work."

Hmmm, let's see, the big bad calendars that were release show Hahn on the job most every day, in L.A. doing the mayor's biz.

ADV's calendars show his "firm wrists" milking contributors teets and stroking lady pols arms up and down "friendly like" -- for mayor money from Miami to Milwaukee, MOST days of every month.

If by work, you mean campaigning for another job while stealing the paycheck you haven't earned from the city of L.A. Wel, then, YEAH, ADVis a piece of "work."

You don't like Jimmy's work, fire him, but don't give me shit from shinola that ADV "works" for a living. He works then rubber-chicken circuit (for HIMSELF, NOT for constituents), and works up a sweat admiring how much BS he can get little retards like you to believe his 3-card monty "vision" scheme... then laughs ALL the way out-of-town again.

ADV will "work" when the authorities finally get aholt of his hiney - he'll work up a sweat with BIG Bubba , his cellmate.

May 11, 2005 8:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Link for Tyler Jaeger Act Ad:

http://antoniocheck.blogspot.com/2005/05/villaraigosa-tyler-jaeger-ad.html

May 11, 2005 8:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"It is going to be tough for AV to attack the mother. Let's see what they come up with."

Ah, hell, easy as PIE. ADV's hacksters already got files full of dirt on EVERY mommy (or daddy, or other "whiner") that can get in the way of his next gig. Won't bat an eye about doing it (actually, having OTHER people do it behind the scenes).

SHIT, ADV's been lying on his OWN mommy for years -- about how she dressed him rags, and that's why he NOW needs $3,000 designer suits -- to make up for all little ost boy years wearing potato sacks with pockets drawn on them in crayon, for effect. He needs to be Tony Dapper, he's "compelled" like he's compelled to lie to constituents nonstop.

Meanwhile, Mommy V. had a decent civil service job and was no doubt VERY proud she COULD keep them out of rags... but that's not DRAMATIC enough to poor, abused, Tony, He requires "sympathy" to keep moving up the ladder and to keep tapping into all that liberal White guilt goldmine that's moved his unqualified backside up the ladder WAY past anything he was ever QUALIFIED to do.

Slam a mommy -- of a victim?? In his sleep, without losing a single "Z."

May 11, 2005 8:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A few facts about Hahn's ad:

1)The bill in question (AB 2258 - 1996) would have applied to almost nobody. The Dept of Corrections said in the bill analysis that exactly ZERO people were convicted under the statute this bill amended in 1995 (the year before the vote. Why? because people who intentionally kill children are prosecuted for murder (not for child abuse).

2) The boyfriend of Jaeger who killed the child in a drunken stupor was prosecuted and convicted for 2nd degree murder. He was sentenced to 15 to life.

3) The Jaeger bill was flawed. It erased the distinction between intentional child abuse resulting in a death and unintentional. According to the bill's analysis:

“This bill may punish the killing of a child by someone having the care and custody of that child more severely than if that child were intentionally killed by a stranger.”

So the idiot Dad who accidentially leaves his child locked in a car resulting in an accidental death would have received a longer sentence than a stranger who commits a willful 2nd degree murder.

4) All told, 27 state legislators either voted NO or abstained (which is the same as a No vote) on AB2258.

5) Villaraigosa voted, just eight days later, for another bill by Republican Kaloogian (a bill the ACLU opposed by the way) which increased penalties for second degree murder from 15 to life to 25 to life AND eliminated parole possibilitiews for all 1st degree murderers. This was a tough bill which would have put away the killer of Tyler Jaeger for 25 to life. That bill, according to the CDC would have effected 701 2nd degree murderers and 510 1st degree murderers in 1995 (as opposed to the ZERO criminals that AB2258 would have impacted.)

You can take one vote out of thousands and slime anyone. Hahn just did.

May 11, 2005 8:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Antonio was so screwed up by his father beating his mother then why in the hell hasn't he done ANYTHING about domestic violence in this city? He loves to play the victim, poor me. Oh no watch Antonio jump on that one. City Council today was pathetic. Weiss, Parks, Ludlow, Antonio were all out on our tax dollars campaigning. I can only imagine if Hahn had all the council who supported him with him how the ADV lovers would spin that. Antonio can never be by himself. He always has to have the guards just in case he slips and that temper of his flares up.

Antonio has been blasting Hahn since last year. But now the crybaby and his cult followers cry foul because Hahn is putting his record out there. Yes, MEAT why in the hell would Antonio VOTE AGAINST stiffer penalities for child abusers? You don't think that poor mother thinks about her baby that was killed every single day of her life? Little Samantha Runnion who was brutalized, raped and tortured then killed was only 5 years old. It shows Antonio has a cold blooded idiot who supports criminals. Good for Hahn to let the voters know.

May 11, 2005 8:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV lover spin all you want. Linda Breakballs reported tonight that all the prosecutors wanted the first bill passed. ANTONIO WAS THE ONLY VOTE NO. How sad that this mother's 22 month old was Killed and now Antonio and his gangster flacks are going to investigate her and discredit her. What an asshole but this is the Antonio way. He has a gangster mentality and has threatened more people in his own district that if they come out to support Hahn they will lose their non profit funding, he will get them, and they will never be able to work in the community. Wish the media would go after that story.

May 11, 2005 8:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just checked out this site, it's pretty good.

http://antoniocheck.blogspot.com/

May 11, 2005 8:46 PM  

Anonymous Tough Questioner said:

To Mr. Yorty:

Why you edit posts on "affairs" is entirely beyond me. Maybe you could answer why. Don't get me wrong - I don't think it is news if someone has sex. I don't think cheating on a spouse necessarily affects job performance.

BUT - don't you think one politician sleeping with the staffer of another is news? Don't you think it may affect that staffer's retention and salary? Don't the taxpayers pay those salaries? Wouldn't the relationship sometimes affect endorsements? Isn't all of this news?

May 11, 2005 8:53 PM  

Anonymous ClimbMountWashington! said:

Should Antonio win, my block will welcome Nick Pachecco back with open arms. He got a raw deal with all those bs allegations in '03. He was a good guy and a good Councilman.

May 11, 2005 8:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If a politician is having an affair with a staffer, it should be of interest. The politicians entire career is public, ethically we hold him/her to higher standards since they show by example, otherwise they should not be politicians. Some of individuals cannot cut it in this field of work, as you have for example Villaraigosa. I want to know if he is having an affair, then, do I trust him? No.

May 11, 2005 9:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That Anon poster wrote a letter to the Attorney General regarding Barrio Planners and Southwest Voter Registration has stated it again that there were several people who wrote a letter. For those that know the process, what happens next.

May 11, 2005 9:09 PM  

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May 11, 2005 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:09 Poster - who must be Parke. Oh Yeah, and we're suppose to believe that Tony is smarter than 79 other assemblymembers and all those prosecutors. Last I checked, prosecutors needed to pass the bar. Tony voted against this bill for one reason and one reason only, he wanted to show his ACLU friends how radical he was. In fact, in past elections when this came up he justified his vote as being based purely on civil liberties - fogret Samantha Runion and little baby Jaeger and Megan and all those other kids - hey, I want to be the civil libertarian king. Tony doesn't have the smarts to analyze a bill and break it down the way you did Parke. And that shoot from the hip mentality is what is going to cost him this election. You can't run from your past.

May 11, 2005 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:09 ANON

The AG's pffoce will route that letter to the district director. Then a deputy AG will start an initial inquiry. Usually, if the accused is hesitant about releasing information or does not permit employees to be interviewed, the case gets put on an excelarated pace. The warrants, subpoenas and searches would commence. If the accused is a willing participant, the investigation might take a little longer but improprieties will be more easily uncovered. Once all these investigations are done with, then the deputy AG's along with the FBI begin to put a case together. It can go directly to court after indcitments are filed or, if the illicit activity is really widespread, the case will be directed to a grand jury.

The AG needs to act on all credible tips even moreso now after the FBI bungled some 9/11 tips.

Don't forget to send a written tip to the Public Integrity Unit of the Los Angeles County District Attorney. Cooley would pass this up to the AG and this might expedite the investigation.

Everything considered, you're looking at about six months to a year. Right in time for Gloria Molina's re-election campaign in 2006. Of course, if somebody sings your looking at 3 to 4 months.

May 11, 2005 10:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:27 ANON

Parke has always used the most blatantly negative of Latino steroetypes to market Tony. Single mother household, poverty, drunk abusive father, high school drop out, white man to the rescue. etc.,. Parke does this because he can't really market Tony's accomplishments and definitely not his smarts. The first flyer to come out in 2001 was the "My father was an alcoholic" piece, because, you know, all Latino fathers are alcoholics. This has been Tony's passport to the liberal westside jews.

But does anyone really know much about Tony's father. After Antonio Villar Sr. and Natalia - Tony's mother- dissolved their obviously ill conceived marriage, they went their separate ways. Natalia re-married to a Mr. Delgado and even had a child from him -Tony's half brother whose father in law owns the Rusnak car dealership empire in Pasadena.

Antonio Sr. also went on with his life. He re-married and fathered four more children who all went on to get their college degrees and they all became succesful professionals in their own right. They all grew up in La Puente were Antonio Sr. dutifully provided a home and a nice middle class upbringing - not bad for an alcoholic. What really irks Tony Jr. is that Antonio Sr. totally removed himself from his prior life - to the extent that he named his oldest son from his second marriage Antonio Villar Jr.. So now you know why Tony has such a chip on his shoulder. In all fairness, I guess it what be heartbreaking to have your father replace you with another son - name and all - he even looks like Tony and has the same charisma and Type A personality. And for all of Tony's distaste for his biological father, didn't he end up just like him - after all, Tony has left four families he started in his life time. So Tony did in fact out do his father who only left one family.

May 11, 2005 10:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why hasn't Antonio come to the East Los Angeles area? There are some supporters that want to see him, forget about the antivillariagosa people, show up and unite with those that support you.

May 11, 2005 11:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony Velarde please don't come to the eastside. You are a joke to the neighborhood. I live right behind your district office, which you never visit, unless you are harassing the poor Senora at Antojitos asking her to take down the Hahn sign. Please don't do that-stop acting like a bully! All the neighbors behind the your district office call you "Papi Chulo" and "Armani" due to your arrogant posture. You really are an embarassement.

May 11, 2005 11:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Very detailed analysis of the "flawed" bill Tony voted against above.

So go out and make your OWN TV ad and rebut Hahn's.

The lies and partial truths ADV has told in his ads, and mailers and "crappy little speeches" for nearly a year now would fill the Coliseum.

Twice. Then we could fill its again with the lies spun against ADV's last opponent, and on and on and on.

THEN we could fill it again with the lies ADV has told about his failure to do ANYTHING of value in two years in the district that supported and gave his the best mandate of any CM.

Be the victim, Tony. Cry me an L.A. River. You are a useless, posturing, incompetent actor, whose best roles have not been playing public servants.

Your whole career is a lie, and it's come home to you in spades. If you squeak out a victory or even get by with a few extra points next week, you will be under a microscope and no campaign hacks or blame-throwing will say you from your own inabilities to lead and serve.

May 12, 2005 12:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Very detailed analysis of the "flawed" bill Tony voted against above.

So go out and make your OWN TV ad and rebut Hahn's.

The lies and partial truths ADV has told in his ads, and mailers and "crappy little speeches" for nearly a year now would fill the Coliseum.

Twice. Then we could fill its again with the lies spun against ADV's last opponent, and on and on and on.

THEN we could fill it again with the lies ADV has told about his failure to do ANYTHING of value in two years in the district that supported and gave his the best mandate of any CM.

Be the victim, Tony. Cry me an L.A. River. You are a useless, posturing, incompetent actor, whose best roles have not been playing public servants.

Your whole career is a lie, and it's come home to you in spades. If you squeak out a victory or even get by with a few extra points next week, you will be under a microscope and no campaign hacks or blame-throwing will say you from your own inabilities to lead and serve.

May 12, 2005 12:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A previous poster - who I took as being overwrought at first - actually nailed it. Villaraigosa's apologists here have already begun attacking the credibility of the mother in Hahn's ad, saying the bill was useless and she MUST be lying (because we all know from recent experience in the city that Tony V. always tells the truth.

This isn't flip-a-coin people. Hahn's ads hava nailed the challenger's Achilles heal (sic); he can't be trusted. He won't take responsibility for his own failings, and he will assassinate the messenger of any challenges his lack of honesty.

Good ad, good theme, good god lets send the vindictive tyrant Antonio Villaraigosa packing.

L.A. can do so much better. Hahn is somewhat better, the next mayor in four years can be miles ahead of either one.

Re-elect Hahn; retire Villaraigosa's old-school. kill-them-with-innuendo and meaningless promises style of winning elections and losing the reason FOR the elections - change and progress.

May 12, 2005 12:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can we trust Hahn?

Two grand investigations
Contracting scandals
Resignations of top officials
Failing to keep his campaign promises

May 12, 2005 12:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Prove just one in a court of law... that's your answer.

Go run your own Ads about how untrustworthy Hahn is... OH YEAH, ADV has been, nonstop, for WEEKS (and he's LOSING points!

I think maybe people don't like the pot (ADV) calling the tea kettle black like this!

May 12, 2005 1:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree poster that sexual affairs are definitely newsworthy. Look at how it affected Clinton. Baca's deputies are pissed at him. They are saying he had no right to use them in his endorsement. Like LAPD these law enforcements officers are against everything Antonio stands for. They want to put the bad guys away and Antonio supports them. Antonio plays the victim. The media should go talk to his father. We want the real story.

May 12, 2005 7:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmm, Baca, the top COUNTY cop, vs. Bratton, the top CITY cop. AND, it looks like Bratton sending out feelers, just in case ADV does win.

Guess that means Parks' district gets a special election, too... when ADV re-appoints the Rampart Scandal kind back into LAPD.

Yikes. That would mean lousy mayor AND lousy police chief in the same stroke of an ink-a-dot.

May 12, 2005 10:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Baca is a Vignali sympathizer, so there you have it. It is the same little club, AV-Baca-Molina-Bexerra...

May 12, 2005 11:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:58 anon you forgot all the corrupt cronies of ADV, Hernandez who should be behind bars but is working for Parks on council, Alatorre the cocaine addict who is always in council, and Muerlo the developer. Now we know he bought that LAUSD land to trade for a parcel piece in downtown LA next to staples. I guarantee Jose Huizar was in cahoots with this land deal. Media should go after that and find out when he knew and that he did absolutely nothing cause Antonio promised Jose the CD14 seat. Word is Jose will never ever get that seat. He's burned himself.

May 12, 2005 11:38 AM  

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