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Wednesday, May 11, 2005

Cherny vs. Waldman

stuartOkay, someone wanted to talk about it, and to give us a break from the Poopy-Villar battles, lets talk about as obscure a race as you can.

We hear that longtime Valley political activist, Bob Hertzberg staffer and current Chief of Staff to Lloyd Levine, Stuart Waldman, is planning to run for the Valley Glen Neigbhorhood Council.

AndreiWe also hear that former Assembly candidate (who lost the nomination to Levine) and former Al Gore speechwriter Andrei Cherny is also considering running.

If you have any insight into this exciting race, we'd love to hear it.

UPDATE: Stuart Waldman has informed us he is not running for the Neighborhood Council, but looks forward to seeing everyone at Antonio's victory party on Tuesday night.

Since Stuart is out of the race, Mayor Sam will now start the "Draft Hal Netkin" for Valley Glen NC Campaign. Yes, Hal does not live in the district, but I believe he has carried some of his picket signs through Valley Glen, which should make him a stakeholder. Particularly because his sign was attached to a stake and he was holding it at the time.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous poster, you are a loser. A total and complete loser. Just like Mayor Hahn.

May 11, 2005 9:19 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I had to delete the first comment for being off topic and for being a cut and paste about some dumb Tony Villar tape.

Get with the program folks - you can blab about Poopy and Villar all you want - but try to stay on post.

(Hence this makes the new first post to this article sort of meaningless, but he was referring to the cutter and paster).

May 11, 2005 9:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam-you are so biased-it is pathetic. If any Antonio supporter posts anything off topic about Hahn, it is okay and fair game. But if the reverse happens, you delete it. What a joke this site has turned into.

I bet this post gets deleted too.

May 11, 2005 9:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This thread can be summed up in two words:

Diss Traction

May 11, 2005 9:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can sum it up in ONE word...


(check my spelling on that, however).

P.S. Just means there no "good" news for ADV again.

May 11, 2005 9:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My vote is for Andrei. I just hope he doesn't get dinged for his relative youth. And he's so much cuter that Stuart.

May 11, 2005 9:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Come on now folks! Mayor Sam has long been censoring this blog since day one. I would be surprised if my comments even get printed. Oh wait it just might since it doesn't mention any names such as Antonio's and his side kick Jimmy's "friends" with benefits Jenny and Celina. Oops my bad. Sorry Mayor Sam!

May 11, 2005 9:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What was that post that got deleted. Come poster, put it up again. Mayor Sam, this could be that scoop you've be waiting for all election. Don't let the Torrance Daily Breeze get allthe accolades, you deserve some recognition for hosting this blog. And you said you wanted proof on any allegations - what's better than tape?

May 11, 2005 9:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hypocrite - Didn't you (Mayor Sam) post this earlier on ANOTHER thread:

"5) Who gives a fuck if Stuart Waldman runs against Andrei for the Neighborhood Council? What does that have to do with this post? Who gives a shit about Valley Glen? What are they going to do? Talk about the new $3 movie theatre in Valley Plaza? Get more folks to join the Ballys on Victory Blvd? For Christ's sake? Lets find something more interesting to do."

YEAH, this IS all about distraction. ADV went whoop, whoop, whoop in a heli-chopper, and nobody in the city but the pilot gives a rats ass.

Hahn is the new "poster-boy" for recovering quickly from a BAD underdog status in the primary, and people LOVE a scrapper making a comeback. They ROOT for the guy tunneling up from hell. They VOTE for the man with a mission (while Terrified Tony hides behind his overpriced, uncreative mouthpieces and shits his pants when LAUREL ERICKSEN asks him about some past vote or letter of support).

To hell with "corruption" L.A. is starting to say (again), I want the "fighter" in office, not the sissy la la mambo partner.

Unpack that box on the top of your dusty city council desk, ADV.

You AIN'T going anywhere, just yet.

The people decide, and you're looking more and more like a nancy-boy EVERY day (and there's still SIX DAYS left, lightweight!)

Here's what we KNOW as facts, and everything else is unproven polling and posturing.

Hahn's never lost a citywide race.

ADV has never won a race outside of his own, insulated, homeboy district.

He's NOT Mr. Consensus, he's NOT a "visionary" and he does NOT roll up his sleeves and ALL that's being reported MORE and more every day... media, word-of-mouth, and massive non-stop phone banking to the most tender, fence-straddling portions of ADV's reluctant paper-thin coalition.

Boom, boom, boom... Tony's on a slip-and-slide that Hahn's short-sheeted, and the hard cold driveway underneath is coming up FAST!

May 11, 2005 10:05 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Look assholes, I can run my blog any god damn way I want.

This is not the place for loser Tony Villar and loser Poopy Hahn low rung staff members to sit and piss on all day long. Get off your asses and go knock on doors for your candidates.

Now go dine at Sunshine Canyon piss for brains.

May 11, 2005 10:08 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

In case anyone is interested, the cut and paste post I deleted from this article is still on the blog, but at its original location.


May 11, 2005 10:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Andrei can always call Shawn Steel and Doug Boyd and run as a Republican...

May 11, 2005 10:11 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Anon 10:05...

You're right - who gives a shit, but since someone brought it up, lets talk about it.

You guys get pissed if we post about anything but Antonio because you're desperate at this point.

Most folks have decided who they are going to vote for and this election is done, stick a fork in it.

Lets talk about other crap, even if its stupid.

Honestly, at this point, I would like to hear what Mr. Waldman and Mr. Cherny wish to offer their citizenry.

May 11, 2005 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, not everyone has made up their mind yet. My wife is a perfect example, she is waiting until the morning of election day. She says any new information is important and her decision can wait until election day. I don't think she's the only one in L.A. who thinks this way, ask people, neighbors, it's all the same, they are willing to wait and see what happens until election day.

May 11, 2005 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam:

Ok, you got me. Thanks for the comic relief that all these assholes have provided by ranting over nothing. This post is so funny since neither Waldman nor Cherny live in that NC.


May 11, 2005 10:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Something about an anonymous tip regarding Molina, Barrio Planners, Ron and Tony gets posted in the previous thread along with some information about a potential damaging recording taken at Tony's campaign HQ and you start a thread about a non-topic since these bozos don't even live in the NC. Mayor Sam, has Tony's charm blinded you also - I tell people, don't look him in the eyes.

Distract, DIStract, DISTRACT!!!

May 11, 2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Horse's ass Mustang... Get a clue, you don't have to "live" in the boundaries of an NC to run for it -- there are many more qualifiers depending on the bylaws.

Some NCs have nearly 50 percent non-residents on their board, and its been a big downer for some of the HOAs that used to rule the roost -- legal by their bylaws because they were set up that way to be more "inclusive" of other "types" of stakeholders.

You been asleep since charter reform, or just had you head up Tony's backside??

I guess this means you really AREN'T ADV's tie-dyed playmate from the LA32 board, as was rumored (or you just STILL don't understand the rules of the game... which makes some kind of dumb (fake) blond sense)

May 11, 2005 10:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam,
I think you have been misinformed. Stuart does not live in Valley Glen and he would never carpetbag. He and his wife live in beautiful Van Nuys. As for his prospective opponent, Mr. Cherny has not physically lived in the Valley since his disgraceful 11 point loss to Mr. Levine. He has lived in DC, the Bay Area and Boston. But it would not be beneath him to run in a district he must move into, again.

May 11, 2005 10:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Seriously, PLEASE, ADV-lovers should NOT be discussing neighborhood councils in ANY form.

Informed, active citizen activists are like wooden stakes to ADV's absentee-vampire-demagogue act.

Suggest a "meeting" and he'll melt like the Wicked Witch of the East/West (whatever... PLEASE Harriman-Thena, don't tell me it's the wrong direction-witch... I didn't study Pinocchio OR the Wizard of Oz at Vasser, like you!)

May 11, 2005 10:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony groupies should NOT bring up "carpetbagging" either, not since 2002, anyway. He still has rug burns on his knees from that CD1-to-CD14 doggy-style screwing of the district.

May 11, 2005 11:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So what do you guys think of Stuart and Andrei?

May 11, 2005 11:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GRAB THEM QUICK, voyeurs, the posts are being censored faster than the ADV-lovers can even respond to them with accusations of "hate."

May 11, 2005 11:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Stuart.. doggone it, people LIKE him.

But Andrei's the kind you just wanna have DINNER with!

(Outside the in-bred work of hacky-wonky, does anyone know who either of these people is/are???)

May 11, 2005 11:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you REALLY want to talk about a "fun" topic, take odds on who will run for ADV's seat, IF he wins of course (not that there's ANYTHING right about that prospect).

It's shaping up to be a BOATload... maybe rivaling '99, when the field started out with 14-15 relative unknowns after ADV-mentor Alatorre barely skidded out un-indicted.

The debates had to be held on long, flatbed trucks -- and JUST the campaign staffers filled up most average-sized community centers in the district.

(Not that most of you out-of-the district ADV-lovers give a SHIT about this district --- BUT, your boy never has, either!)

May 11, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anti-Mexicans for Hahn Committee said:

Mayor Sam the reason that Kam and Carrick don't want you to post topics unrelated to the Mayors race is that everytime someone posts on here, it goes to their blackberry and its costing them dough to read about Waldman, NEtkin, etc.

May 11, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Damn, Mayor Sam's REALLY cleaning house on this one... stuck being zapped out LEFT and farther LEFT. What's up dead-one? Tony flying over in his heli-copter to see if you rate being a paid staffer downtown on his NEW team.

Too late for Spring cleaning, it's almost Summer - and Tony's in HOT WATER already...

May 11, 2005 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"stuff" being zapped...

May 11, 2005 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks to a past poster who informed us on the process to have SVREP and Barrio Planners books audited. I and two other concerned citizens wrote our letter to the AG citing corruption and illicit activities in these two organizations mentioned above. We documented our suspicion of and not limited to Villaraigosa and his involvement, Antonio Gonzalez, Alma Martinez, Ron Martinez, Gloria Molina, Frank Villalobos, Alvin Parra, Martha Molina.

May 11, 2005 11:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The "Z" man at the "David Breeze" nails ADV's corrupt little bi-coastal dealings again -- and running DESPARATE and losing ground fast, ADV tells media he "won't respond to Hahn's accusations anymore" (then promptly makes another accusation ABOUT Hahn). But HEY, here's good news, dirty-money-man Muerelo has better "quip" writers than Antonio does!

Wednesday, May 11, 2005

Villaraigosa's donors in Florida raise eyebrows; L.A. mayoral candidate's fund-raising swings through Miami bring to light shady characters and others who have business interests in Los Angeles.
By David Zahniser
Copley News Service

For Los Angeles mayoral candidate Antonio Villaraigosa, it was a whirlwind day of campaigning -- a flight to Miami followed by three back-to-back fund-raisers with members of that city's business elite.

Villaraigosa's Florida allies used the April 13 visit to promote him as a rising political star.

But some of the participants in those fund-raisers have been drawing unwelcome attention in Miami and Los Angeles, both for their private sector transactions and their public political dealings.

With Florida fund raising now serving as a major theme of Mayor James Hahn's campaign against Villaraigosa, the councilman has had to defend his appearance with supporters who include:

•Home builder Sergio Pino, who co-hosted Villaraigosa's first Miami event. Pino faced questions last year after he held a fund-raiser for Miami-Dade's top prosecutor, just as her staffers were reviewing his daughter's case for felony cocaine possession. The case was later dropped.

•Lobbyist Sylvester Lukis, a co-host of Villaraigosa's second event, who was indicted on federal bribery charges and acquitted. While he was found not guilty of all 10 charges in 1997, his wife was convicted of mail fraud in the same case and was serving a 27-month prison sentence until former President Clinton freed her in the final weeks of his presidency.

•Sean Anderson, president of Travel Traders, a hotel gift shop company whose employees and associates gave Villaraigosa at least $47,000. District Attorney Steve Cooley is investigating whether money laundering was involved in the contributions, which Villaraigosa has chosen to return.

•Developer Richard Meruelo, a businessman whose family has given Villaraigosa more than $100,000. Meruelo, who attended two of the Miami events, is battling the Los Angeles Unified School District over the site of a proposed high school.

•Meruelo's brother, Homero Meruelo Jr., who also attended Pino's event but did not make a contribution. He was convicted of insurance fraud more than a decade ago.

Hahn camp questions judgment

Hahn's top campaign adviser argued that the Miami trip raises questions about Villaraigosa's judgment.

"When he went out to Florida, he assembled a rogues' gallery of questionable characters, and it raises more and more doubts about why are these people investing their money in Antonio for mayor," said Hahn spokesman Kam Kuwata.

Villaraigosa spokesman Nathan James said there was nothing unwise about the councilman's fund-raising trip. Any criticism from Hahn over that trip is an attempt to distract voters from his "failed record of leadership, his broken promises and his own multiple federal and state investigations of his administration," James added.

"What was unwise was Jim Hahn appointing his chief fund-raiser as head of the proprietary departments" -- the harbor, airport and Department of Water and Power, James said in a reference to former Deputy Mayor Troy Edwards. "That's an action he took as mayor that he's never fully explained."

Hahn has spent the past week running attack ads on the fund-raisers in Florida, a state whose politics have been the subject of newspaper investigations and federal corruption probes for a decade. One Miami Herald columnist argued last year that lobbyists had turned Miami's airport into a "suck-hole of avarice, favoritism and waste."

Meanwhile, Richard Meruelo and other Villaraigosa backers voiced disgust that Florida fund raising has become a focus of Hahn's campaign.

"Hahn has nothing better to talk about," said one supporter, Miami media consultant Jose Cancela. "Florida's always good for a few political jokes."

One Miami event was co-hosted by Pino, whose company, Century Duty Free, was targeted by Miami-Dade's inspector general in 2002 for its handling of a contract at Miami International Airport. The report concluded that Pino and his three partners received $14.6 million but provided no services.

Backer was involved in Miami inquiry

Pino was also the subject of a Miami New Times article last year that focused on his July 22 fund-raiser for State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, the top prosecutor for Miami-Dade. The event occurred a few weeks after his daughter, 24-year-old Jacqueline Pino, was arrested on charges of felony cocaine possession and resisting arrest.

Pino's daughter was apprehended outside a Miami Beach nightclub after her friend, 20-year-old Vanessa Gonzalez, got into an altercation. As Gonzalez was being arrested, Jacqueline Pino removed a Ziploc bag of cocaine from her friend's pocket, and was then arrested herself, according to a police report.

Pino threw a fund-raiser for Rundle weeks later, even as prosecutors were reviewing his daughter's case. Pino confirmed in a New Times interview that the event was at his office and said he went ahead with it because he knew the arrest had been a mistake.

Rundle's office dropped the case on Aug. 6, saying it did so because Miami Beach police officers had failed to show up for meetings on the case. In a memo, a Rundle aide also said the cases were too minor to justify the "considerable time, effort and expense."

However, Miami Beach police spokesman Bobby Hernandez said his agency considered the felony charges serious and wanted to pursue them, but tried without success to coordinate with Rundle's office.

Pino could not be reached for comment Monday and Tuesday. But Cancela, who sits on the board of Pino's company, described the timing of the fund-raiser as "pure coincidence," adding that Pino has held several events for Rundle.

In another case involving a fund-raising co-host for Villaraigosa, Lukis and his wife, Lee County Commissioner Vicki Lopez-Lukis, were indicted on 10 counts of bribery. Prosecutors asserted that Lukis funneled money to Lopez-Lukis -- his girlfriend at the time -- as he persuaded her to award a county contract for his client, according to court documents.

Lukis was found not guilty after the couple argued that they were only trying to cover up their relationship. But a jury found that his wife had "knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud the citizens of Lee County of their intangible right to ... honest services," according to court records.

Asked about the case, Lukis said his legal history is irrelevant to Villaraigosa's campaign and argued that his wife has already paid a major debt to society.

Meruelo argued that his brother's criminal history is unconnected to the campaign.

"(Hahn) is just desperate," he added. "He just wants to mar Villaraigosa in the eleventh-and-a-half hour."

May 11, 2005 11:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"What, me corrupt?"

-- Antonio E. Neuman

May 11, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can post about the election here:


May 11, 2005 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NEW BLOG since Mayor SAM keeps deleting all our posts.

May 11, 2005 12:27 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Interesting, Anon 11:43, but not a new development...

STILL, the list of things Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa "won't respond" to (because the people asking are just "desperate") is growing so quickly it's hard to keep track.

With less than a week to go in the campaign, ADV® now WON'T RESPOND to his challengers' accusations (about things under investigation by "desperate" law enforcement officers and NEW items coming down daily) related to "funny" money from supporters outside L.A., who think "Antonio Villaraigosa" was. . . maybe Antonio Banderas' maiden name before he married Melanie Griffith?? (And they're paying for advance screening passes for his next movie??). EVEN though he says it was all "legit."

He also WON'T RESPOND to direct questions from TV reporters about his public record Assembly votes and actions, (probably because the reporters are. . . "desperate" for news?) OH, or his votes have been taken "out of context..." e.g., Well I voted AGAINST that bill BEFORE I voted for it! See?

ADV® said some time ago he "WON'T RESPOND" to anymore requests for debates -- which must mean voters are just too "desperate" to find out what he actually plans to DO if he becomes mayor.

(I mean, if elected, he WILL have to stop ending every statement with "because Hahn is being investigated," right? I can imagine the swearing in ceremony (actually I've had nightmares about it -- but that's from one too many Polish sausages at the AM/PM). Mr. Villaraigosa, do you swear to uphold. . . "I WON'T RESPOND to that desperate question -- because, um... Jim Hahn was AWOL from my victory party!"

It's well known that ADV® and staff "WON'T RESPOND" to appeals for funds needed to complete dozens of projects in his district that were slated to be finished in 2003 and 2004. ("Ignore the pile of discretionary funds behind the curtain, people..." -- now approaching $1.5 million)

ADV® has for TWO FULL YEARS been in a "WON'T RESPOND" mode for constituent needs and complaints -- but in FACT, he won't even "not respond" personally. He has PEOPLE to not respond for him.

He "WON'T RESPOND" to constituent e-mails (in fact the e-mail auto-response message says something JUST like that "don't expect a response -- please call one of my field offices and leave voicemail" -- which just makes it easier for them to NOT RESPOND by phone.

Heck, pretty soon ADV® won't even be answering the doorbell at home ("Whoever it is, tell them I'm NOT here... tell them I'm fundraising in Puerto Rico. They'll believe that, for sure.")

I can only imagine (though I CAN'T believe I'm even typing the words, brrr), that the little plastic sign in the window of an always locked, buzz-them-in "Mayor" ADV® City Hall office will say: "Trade Only!"

But he WILL still respond to campaign donations (for about a week, and then again in a few months).

CD14 people in need of answers to community issues, have been told OUTRIGHT by more rabid supporters... "the best way to reach him is to go to one of his $500 min. events and THEN you can get his ear for a couple minutes." That's just ONE ear... the minimum tribute to get anything moving is about $50K and rising (right Travel Traders?)

Pony up, local TV news people, Maybe like they have a "coverage pool" in war zones, you can pool your lunch money and come up with enough cash to get ADV® to answer ONE direct question a day (But don't bet on it -- you'd have to quit the Starbucks runs, too). I guess when the only safe way to get your tainted, easily refuted message out is through paid media, then "pay for AIRplay" makes good media sense.

But completely innocent people ANSWER questions (like Hahn has, repeatedly for two years); all others take the Fifth or otherwise WON'T RESPOND.

May 11, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa to Discuss Public Safety (05/11/2005)
On Wednesday, May 11 at 9:30 am, law enforcement officials and Pacific Palisades residents will join with Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa where he will discuss his “Plan for a Safer L.A.”

Give me a f---ing break. There are now 16 homicides in Boyle Heights and this little shit decides to go to the Westside to talk about public safety. Can we all say
L O S E R. If he can't even clean up his own district he can't run the city.

May 11, 2005 12:54 PM  

Blogger Westsider said:

Maybe Bratton is witholding LAPD officers from CD14?

May 11, 2005 12:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Look, every day Villaraigosa is traveling across the city offering specific policy proposals and answering questions. Hahn stands up somewhere every day and slimes Villaraigosa with some recycled ancient charge. Why should Villaraigosa play Hahn's game and give this losing pathetic invisible Mayor more exposure? Did you hear Hahn on KPCC today? It was sickening. Everytime he opened his mouth, another toad would hop out. C'mon Jimmy, you've had a nice long run. Lose with some class.

May 11, 2005 1:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Go here and post before Mayor sam deletes this post.

May 11, 2005 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Specific policy proposals?

Answering questions?

Are there TWO ADV's out there, because it MUST be the OTHER one that ALL of the city's professional print media is following around.

Still, every day, like before -- their rote write-ups say:

"Hahn's rival did not offer specifics for his proposal" (i.e., it's NOT really a proposal, it's a hair-brained SCHEME no on has spent more than 5 minutes concocting and ADV spent 30 seconds memorizing the SPIN for).

This guy is NOT an "outsider" like Hertzberg or Alarcon were. He's been TAKING a city paycheck for TWO years... he SHOULD be past the "trainee" stage, and know how things work and what WILL and WON'T work under the cities charter, rules, and regulations.

Or, maybe you haven't been paying attention in committee, Mr. ADV?

OH, you were out campaigning when we covered that? Your dog ate your policy proposal? You had the MIAMI FLEW??? That lightweight, propped-up, wound-up, EMPTY SUIT, wouldn't know a legitimate proposal if it bit him in the campaign wallet!

What did ADV KNOW about city operations and WHEN did he know it?

Nothing - Never!

And "answering questions???" Please, I got too much agita to EVEN try and explain how many answers ADV does NOT have to EVEN his own manufactured history of accomplishments.

Memo to ADV campaign hacks -- when you add new "poor Tony" tripe to his resume -- CLUE THE LITTLE WINDBAG IN, first!

May 11, 2005 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Duck, "Westslider" -- the black helicopters almost took you head off (and I think ADV was piloting one).

It's a plot, you know... The UN told Bratton to withhold cops from CD14, because the worldwide Jewish conspiracy wants to embarrass Mecha Boy Antonio for their anti-Semitism.

But don't hold it against him. He HAS changed, he'll take money from the Jewish peeps, JUST as often as any other race, ethnicity, etc., etc.

ADV is an equal opportunity provider. He won't do ANY less for his constituents of other "persuasions" as he does for his homies on the Eastside. It's DO NOTHING for everyone!

May 11, 2005 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

David Hernandez and his county seal band are being called out to a photo op in time for the evening news at Hahn Valley HQ.

Don't these people get tired of being played for fools?

May 11, 2005 1:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Played for fools" that's the theme song of the Northeast Progressives who pant like puppies everytime ADV walks into the room.

You'd you know.

Except with ADV's support, your cause goes DOWN hill (or up river -- in the case of his "support" of the Southwest Museum staying in his home community).

Can't get ANYTHING done in his district, can't EVEN stop a cultural rape in his own back yard. Get's WORSHIPPED by the "open space" people, but has YET to stop a single over-development project in his district. (Just "votes" flaccidly and says... "SORRY, I tried (now kiss my ring and go away).

May 11, 2005 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Looks like if the polls hold up we'll witness an interesting phenom. The most "allegedly" corrupt mayor at the end of his term, being replaced by the most corrupt challenger walking in at the beginning.

Jim Hahn supposedly walked IN pretty clean -- if this is what power did to him (if anything is really his fault), then just THINK how dirty Villaraigosa will be coming out, when he's already up to his neck in Florida aligators, and hasn't even won (yet -- there's that "indictment" word.

May 11, 2005 2:07 PM  

Anonymous I like to eat glue said:

cut and paste
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That's the HAHN way!

May 11, 2005 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, speaking of indictments... it V-minus-6 days. For someone who's whole operation is supposedly SO dirty, and has been for SO long -- what kind of lousy investigators do we have involved, that they can't get ONE single indictment sprung on the LONG list of supposed "crooks," ADV-lovers keep posting here - daily - by name.

(They take solace in a 3rd party vendor being nailed... a penny ante pickpocket compared to an ADV supporter who out-Belmonted the LAUSD - and STILL won't back down or agree to sell it to the school district for a city he SAYS he wants to help move ahead (with a new mayor, of course)!

Is this like the Ayatollah's boys hanging on to the embassy hostages until the last minute, to embarrass Jimmy Carter -- releasing them on Reagan's watch out of spite. Is Muerelo going to sell the Taylor Yard property BACK to LAUSD at cost right after ADV's elected -- so HE can lok like a hero?

May 11, 2005 2:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame
pander and blame

That's the VILLARAIGOSA way!

May 11, 2005 2:17 PM  

Anonymous Fletcher Bowron said:

How much does the Hahn campaign pay their staff members to post on Mayor Sam all day?

I assume its a living wage.

If its piece work by the later, no wonder they cut and paste so much!

May 11, 2005 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what the freep does any of dis have to do with stuey boy waldman?

May 11, 2005 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sheriff Baca should be ashamed of himself. How dare he use his position without asking his deputies and endorse the loser Antonio. Deputies just like LAPD officers don't want a mayor with a police record, a mayor who let a drug dealer off with 800 lbs of cocaine, a mayor against gang injunctions, a mayor who voted agaisnt stiffer penalities for child abusers etc. The only law enforcement Antonio had were already losers like Al Placentia the 60s throwback who is in a lowrider on LALEY's website an embarrassement to LAPD, Parks who covered up Rampart and now Baca who SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THE SHOOTING IN COMPTON MORON

May 11, 2005 2:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Correct Link...


May 11, 2005 2:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Flim-Flam Fletch said: "How much does the Hahn campaign pay their staff members to post on Mayor Sam all day?"

Because of course we KNOW only Tony V. the beloved, the benevolent, the charismatic, can inspire confidence and have a following that TRULY believes in his capabilities (all others pay Florida funny money).

Yours -- my fine flunkie of the empty suited-one -- is the most DANGEROUS and self-destructive delusion of all. If you believe that ALL around you are devout idealists and well-meaning partisans and ALL those on the opposing side are just mercenary flunkies that will run at the first sight of blood - THAT is the beginning of an ignominious defeat.

"Yeah, Gen. MacArthur, we can whip them little Japs overnight -- they all wear thick glasses and can't see well enough to fly planes, let alone sink our ships!"

Glub, glub glub...

Mayor Hahn screwed up his courage and made hard decisions while in office for the past four years; councilmember Villaraigosa just "screwed" the people of his district for two years. Period.

P.S. And for any OTHER nearsighted late arrivals that want to pop up and say "you're OFF topic, you're off topic... I'm gonna TELL!" Note the update -- the topic has already been declared null & void (plus it was just a planned distraction from ADV's rapid slide in the public mind). It's FREE period now, all skate, until the blog's dead owners can find SOMETHING, anything that will cast ADV in a better light than the green-around-the-gills he's been showing the last two weeks.

May 11, 2005 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Isn't it about the time of the afternoon when MEAT also pops in and says something about how Hahn's people are all updating their resumes and he KNOWs the real numbers of the next poll.

Maybe he's updating HIS resume now. Because I don't think the "Hahnistas" would be able to send out the CV's AND pound the blog all day, too.

Make up your shared Tony toady mind, ADV-lovers. Are they BAILING, or BLOGGING.

May 11, 2005 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, the ADV hired guns on the blog may be oozing confidence, but little Tony's slip-sliding-away lead has his wounded puppy groupies in the home field stands sounded more and more panicky every day (they saw his near-fatal one-point landing up close four years ago). Here. a "wannabe" pre-paid commissioner candidate flails around for help. (Is this the way a team that REALLY believes they're 12-30 points ahead with twice as much money to burn "sounds" -- begging NON city
residents to come and back them up, ditch work, even -- HELL, quit your jobs, HE'S THAT IMPORTANT. But she DID forget to tell them to "vote often," because HE'S OUR SAAAAVIOR! (And we love him!)

Maybe they can fly in some Miami contributors, too? (First tell them who ADV is, though).


From: "Irene Ponce" {ireneponce@...}
Date: Wed May 11, 2005 8:45 pm
Subject: Volunteers Needed, Help Elect Antonio Villaraigosa Mayor ponce007beauty


Dear Friends & Animal Lovers,

I'm volunteering my time to help elect Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor of the City of Los Angeles

We are down to the wire and this is our last weekend to get out the vote. If you can help, please contact me as soon as possible via email at to confirm

You do not need to live in Los Angeles to volunteer on Antonio's campaign. Your help is especially needed this Saturday, May 14th @ 8:45 a.m. and

Sunday, May 15th @ 12:00 p.m.

Especially Tuesday, May 17th - Election Day! So if you can take the day off of work and help us get the vote out for Antonio, we can then go to the Victory

Party together and PARTY!

Location: 1866 E. 1st Street @ the corner of 1st and State Street (Boyle Heights)
Telephone: (323) 262-1724
Point of Contacts: Paul, Jennie or Cynthia
If you do not want to drive out to the eastside of town, we have other locations around Los Angeles where you can volunteer. Please call and we will advise

you of the other locations


May 11, 2005 3:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, Isn't Jenny the girl Antonio is having the affair with? I thought you guys said Antonio got rid of her. Guess he needs his little ego stroked. She's half his age. No wonder she hangs out so much at the campaign office. How about Jimmy Blackman's side girlfriend. What was her name??

May 11, 2005 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wow. you guys (or guy, its hard to tell whether the anti AV filibuster is actually more than one person) are really melting down, arent you?

i can almost see the spittle on the comments as your death rattle approaches....

May 11, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wasn't Ponce already ousted from a commission position for incompetence?

Baca had to endorse Tony because they are both hanging on strings being pulled by the same puppeteer. Parke Skelton is also Baca's consultant. Baca had to endorse because he's the one keeping June from the Venice Room's police report from coming out. Parke trains his little Mexican lapdogs very well. Haven't you seen Cindy Montanez sniffing Tony's butt lately, she's another Parke chihuahua.

May 11, 2005 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Anons at 3:58 and 4:06:

So, Irene decides to ask her friends to come out and help on the campaign and that is somehow a bad thing? Irene is working on the ground campaign and has decided to take the last couple of days to fully volunteer on this effort. Maybe if you Yahnistas did the same your numbers would be different.

Baca can endorse anyone he wants. ALADS has not made a move on this race. You’re only kidding yourself if you think Bratton ever asked his officers who he should endorse or whether they think it’s appropriate for him to be campaigning for Yahn.

And enough with the sexual lies - don't start something that will only embarrass your candidate.


May 11, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mustang, Enrique Gasca, "the sexual lies will embarrass our candidate"? Do you know who you are backing. Tony has left visual, verbal and indisputable evidence of his sexual misdeeds. For being educated, that blind faith is sure making you look dumb. Every Eastside activist knows Tony's past, why do you think you're all alone on this one - oh I forgot, there's also Alvin Parra. What a joke - you're the one embarassing yourself. Can't wait until Huizar declares, he sure picked a winner by picking you.

May 11, 2005 4:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think you all are missing a great topic. We should be talking about how awesome Stuart Waldman is and what a tool Andre Cherney is.

May 11, 2005 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'Stang spits this out: "Maybe if you Yahnistas did the same your numbers would be different."

First of all, "her friends" was an all area listserv with about 1,000 readers on ALL sides of the political fence (and we're NOT all friends of that "looney-tune") -- especially since she got the TRO slapped on her assaulting for some peaceful neighbors and their property with a bucket of paint, AND the Hollenbeck boys in blue had to take time out from chasing down cable-TV heralded murderous gang-bangers to revoke her "carry permit" and confiscate her sidearm. You getting the picture here, horse-toothed jackass??

THEN, when you're trying to paint a picture that all is rosy, and HAHN is the desperate one, you DON'T put out an APB for all hands on PUBLIC listservs that sounds like it's do-or-die if the faithful, PLUS all their out-of-town company don't phone bank in ADV's supposed "stronghold" where he is also "supposed" to be enjoying a whopping 81 percent approval rating (HA, and DOUBLE-HA!), because, the "other" side might get WIND OF YOUR PANIC.

THEN, finally, and most importantly -- as far as the numbers are concerned, baby child... take a PEEK (or peak, in ADV's case, because he did)... it's been ALL over the news. ADV's numbers are going DOWN and Hahn's are going UP!

Maybe that's because you ADV-lovers have got CERTIFIABLES with TRO's stuck to their jackets at the precint, out phone-banking, and begging OTHERS to do the same, in the public square.

My guess is, calls from this type of rabid 72-hour-hold graduate come across more like obscene phone calls -- to the fence sitters -- who end up listening to people like HER drool over ADV's non-accomplishments.

If you want ADV's numbers to start rolling back up MAYBE you ought to think about slapping a TRO on a couple of the more rabid mouth-foamers and put them back to work destroying Hahn signs on Huntington Drive in the wee hours!

(This is also the same groupie that two years ago was running around to every CM candidate forum in NELA pouncing on ADV, himself, during the audience question portions screaming "How can you and the ACLU oppose gang injunctions when our streets are overrun with murdering criminals..." (and ripping down "Villaraigosa for CM" signs when she thought NO one was looking. So, you see, HER credibility in particular is a BIT suspect, at this point.

Maybe that's how you have to work it -- switch to the ADV side, but FIRST buy a gun to keep at home, because you KNOW he's not going to do ONE DAMN THING about escalating homicides right where YOU live.

(Of course there haven't been ANY where ADV lays his head... well, where he lays his head MOST nights, anyway.)

May 11, 2005 5:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think the connection with Baca and Antonio is the fact they both wrote letters to get Vignali off. I'm sure his deputies want to kick his ass for endorsing an old time gangster who still supports the very people they want to put away.

Antonio insulted his very own constituents being AGAIN on the westside talking about crime when he has 16 homicides in his own district. Antonio has missed more council meetings but now he and Parks and Weiss are missing all this week. The three stooges deserve eachother

May 11, 2005 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just "waiting" for that SNAPPY retort... from the rabid ADV-lovers. You KNOW it's coming, because they've REALLY been running on empty the last two weeks since they found out ADV is "corrupt" himself!

What will be be today?

"ANTONIO'S GOING TO WIN, so just get OVER it you "haters" (sniff, sniff).

Oh maybe better yet...

"Take a pill, Yawnistas -- it's time for your medicine"

(They're ALWAYS so clever with their canned comebacks!) Just can't wait... maybe they'll tell us to "read the handwriting on the wall" -- again (it's been weeks since that weak one was posted).

May 11, 2005 5:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey loser, no matter how hard you type, type, type, in six short days your boy Hahn is going to have his head handed to him on a plate. How does it feel to know so far ahead of time that he is going to lose? I just wish I could see you on election night - I bet you're going to cry like a little girl. Hahn hasn't even put up a good fight - his campaign has been an embarassment. I bet that Hahn's "team" is going to have a very difficult time getting jobs after this debacle.

May 11, 2005 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I think this is another Mayor Sam distraction to not allow the Anti-Antonio posters here on this blog where the media reads daily.

May 11, 2005 5:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:02 p.m. Yet another one, how? My how this type does cling to ADV. Looking for the "daddy" figure, or something. . .

I guess you don't have to be crazy to support Tony V., but it would help smooth out the long, bumpy periods where most people have to suspend disbelief. About the 200th time he says he's "rolling up his sleeves" and NONE of his supporters ask "to do what? -- specifically?" it WOULD help to have forgotten to have filled the Rx that week.

May 11, 2005 5:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DAMN, I knew there was another trite overused expression ADV's creativity challenged posters used. I forgot "head handed to you on a plate." I better make a longer short list next time.

WOW, if Hahn hasn't put up a good fight, and ADV's hemorragging votes by the tens of thousands every damn day, then it just must be ADV's own lack of accomplishments and real answers that's hurting him so badly. ALL the better... when the late hit comes, he won't even have the strength left to turn his two-faced head.

PLEASE, I beg you. Tell me "Hahn is toast!" I miss that one SO much, you clever cliche-masters. Ivy league English majors, every one of you at the ADV blog bureau, am I right?

May 11, 2005 5:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What an ad from the Hahn campaign. Does this finish off Antonio?

May 11, 2005 5:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They won't be six SHORT DAYS Tony-worhipper. ADV has been down this Green Mile before. He's sweating every second out, looking over at his overpaid campaign hacks thinking. Yeah, those are the SAME guys that told me we were as good as in, this time FOUR YEARS AGO.

Then they went on to their next paid campaign, and I looked like three-day-old french toast stuck to the plate in the dishwasher... all washed up, but still a sticky mess.

May 11, 2005 5:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

type, type, type away. Six short days until your boy earns the well-deserved title of "Former Mayor."

May 11, 2005 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's right Mayor Sam set up that other blog just like he set up Hahn watch to keep the Hahnistas and ADV folks distracted. Its a damn conspiracy I tell you!!

May 11, 2005 5:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well then that would mean just six short days until ADV finally starts earning his FIRST city paychecks, stolen from one of the poorest districts for TWO FULL years, during which time he took credit for PUBLIC WORKS-sponsored work days, as his ONLY stinking accomplishment, and did NOTHING more than maneuver to run for mayor, "on the clock."

Let's see, SEVEN one-half day work days. Even if he DID stay and work for the full time, that means ADV's rate for pushing brooms is about $10,000 dollars an hour!

GEE no one wonder he want's a raise and promotion. At those SLAVE LABOR wages, he can BARELY make ends MEAT. Cesar Chavez would be SO disappointed with Tony for settling for less-than minimum conman wages like that.

Si se ROBE, Antonio... is that the new mantra for YOUR little (labored) movimiento?

May 11, 2005 6:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I gurantee you that the site
http://finallysayithere.blogspot.com is not a distraction. It was done for the purpose of reposting those comments that Mayor Sam won't allow here and suddenly get deleted. If your posts gets deleted here, then repost it on the other site. Still, this site should be the main focus, all media does read into this site. Again, only repost what you think Mayor Sam won't let you post here or what he has deleted. Any affairs, go for it, I don't care it's freedom of speech.

May 11, 2005 6:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Tony Hood," he robs from the poor gets "contributions" from the rich, and just KEEPS ON running for positions he's not qualified for...

May 11, 2005 6:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who are these people who love Stuart Waldman?

Only Stuart would be the one to keep asking posters to get back on topic. The topic of him.

Anyone with brains would choose Andrei over him.

May 11, 2005 8:18 PM  

Blogger Westsider said:

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May 11, 2005 8:57 PM  

Blogger Westsider said:

Can we get back to the real election?

May 11, 2005 9:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Anyone with brains would choose Andrei over him."

Apparently there were not enough voters with brains to choose Andrei over Lloyd Levine for Assembly.

May 11, 2005 9:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

But Stuart Waldman ain't no Lloyd Levine.

May 12, 2005 12:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Why would you bother to post under a "Cherny vs. Waldman" subject line and then whine about going back to the "real election"?

Can you just ONLY read and respond to the subject lines that won't bore you and leave the rest of us to respond to what we want?

May 12, 2005 12:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Or better yet, just READ the damn updates to the blog heading, which says the WHOLE thread topic was moot.

May 12, 2005 12:15 AM  

Blogger Westsider said:

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May 12, 2005 12:49 AM  

Blogger Westsider said:

You made my point. I don't know why people keeping posting about Antonio Villaraigosa under a neighborhood council election topic or a CD11 topic for that matter.

And don't you just hate how some bloggers just copy and paste the same crap to every story? I don't do that and I do try to stick to the topic. Now if everyone would have the courtesy to do the same thing! Please be original in your posts!

May 12, 2005 12:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Westsider, obviously they don't teach READING in West side schools anymore? The THREAD was killed -- topic is voided, the rumor was wrong. Do YOU want to go on talking about the FALSE rumor?? Go ahead, jerk away... it was only pro-ADV distraction, anyway.

May 12, 2005 9:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Max the westsider, SHUT UP you idiot. Go answer the phones or do something, help out don't just sit around typing!

May 12, 2005 11:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Stuart Waldman couldn't win a neighborhood council election if his own boss, Hertzberg, endorsed Cherny INSTEAD of Waldman back during that assembly race. What does that tell you? So Cherny lost and went on to bigger things and Stuart had to stay in his same old job. New boss (albeit a better one), same office.

From assembly race to neighborhood council. Sounds like he's moving up in the political world.

May 13, 2005 1:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That same old job is as a "Chief of Staff". One of 80 Assembly Chief's of Staff. What do you do?

May 13, 2005 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't be silly. Of course Lloyd Levine kept Stuart on. He is so nice that he probably felt bad that Hertzberg endorsed him instead of Stuart.

If I wanted you to know what "I" did, (and I've never tried to get a "Chief of Staff" position) then this wouldn't be an anonymous blog right?

So, it doesn't matter what I do. The blog is about Stuart vs Cherny.

May 14, 2005 6:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The fact is that I personally know that Cherny was in the Valley for long after his Assembly campaign. I saw him frequently at Dem events. He didn't leave until he went to go work for Kerry. And were any of us really against getting rid of Shrub!?!?

May 15, 2005 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The only thing that is "awesome" about Stuart is the size of the behind he has developed sitting around and doing nothing on the government payroll for 10 years...

May 15, 2005 11:56 AM  

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