Sleazy Phone Calls
So today we read in the LA Times that Mayor Poopy's campaign are using phone bank volunteers to attack Tony Villar.
Weird thing, aren't all of those scripts suppose to be reported to the Ethics Commission? Yes.
Is it? Of course not.
Nothing new, more scandal, more unethical treatment.
Weird thing, aren't all of those scripts suppose to be reported to the Ethics Commission? Yes.
Is it? Of course not.
Nothing new, more scandal, more unethical treatment.
Posted by Anonymous @ 5/13/2005 07:10:00 PM
76 Comments:
Pathological Liar + Prove Me Wrong = Hahn Loss (End of Story)
who are the frontrunners for the 14 cd? Ruiz, Huizar, Parra, Acosta, Cuevas, Griego, Uli???? What about Meat?????
Please. Keep trying. The phone calls I'm getting from Antonio phone bankers are ridiculous. All they do is attack Hahn. THey can't answer one question when asked tell me something Antonio has done for CD14? They stumble just like Antonio cause they expect to get questions. Again spinning for ADV.
This is what the Times says...One, targeted to Republicans, questions his former leadership of the region's American Civil Liberties Union chapter.
THE WORD "ATTACK" IS USED BY JESSICA VILLAGARRISON. She's the CD14 groupie of Antonio. She's the one who interviewed CD14 constituents but didn't like what they had to say and never did the story on it.
She used "attacked" in her story. she doesn't like when people say the truth about her lover boy Antonio. I say it's called telling the truth about Antonio's record on the ACLU, his voting against gang injunctions, his flip flopping on the child abuse AB2258 bill, his being a "do nothing councilman in C14." Amazing how this website is so twisted.
Boy Chief Parke, you're really reaching now. Tony is slipping badly, he is looking like a fool on television, all those years of drug abuse is the reason he has all those brain farts. And you are now complaining about phone bankers?! I wonder if Tony submitted his phone raps, the ones that say "Vote for Antonio, if you are Latino we need to Vote for Antonio....Make history, vote for the first Latino mayor in 130 years...Don't be intimidated or misled by those gringos, you know how they are, vote for one of our own, Antonio." I know of several people that have already recorded these conversations. How about you Chief, do you got any recordings?
Did you guys see Tony along with his napoleonic complexed supporter - Tony Cardenas - at Birmingham High today? Tony was trying to explain his vote. It went something like this "I uuuuuhhhhh voted for the uuuhhhhhhh bill in the uhhhhh f-f-fiscal committee uhhh that has to uhhhh do uhhh with money" - still getting distracted by those little high school girls, huh Tony. What the hell were you trying to say? The students were trying everything to keep from bursting out laughing. Is this your defense now Parke, "I voted for it before I voted against it" - and that worked so well for Kerry. And little shit Tony Cardenas standing by your side giving you all that support - it wasn't long ago that Cardenas was crying that Tony V. stabbed him in the back when he came up short - pun intended - in his run for Speaker.
Great Latino leaders ha ha ha ha, come on raza, we can do better than to prop up these two little runts!
CD 14: One Bill Cedillo and Nick Pacheco (I can't believe I said Pacheco of the Cal., Inc., Gloria Marina, La Collectiva lore...he's a true loser)are the front runners. Huizar doesn't stand a chance. He's never been through a campaign and if he can't handle Tokofosky, he won't fair too well in an election or on the council. Parra-- please. He and his wife showed they are worthless candidates. Griego= I haven't heard that lame name in years.
Don't count out Big O - he may be a darkhorse but he's big and beautiful.
What about Uli?
Huizar wins hands down.
End of Story
Pathological Liar - He doesn't stand a chance!!!!!!!!!!!
Proof of Southwest Voter Registration Education Project's working as a field organization for the Villaraigosa Campaign, in violation of it's 501(c)3 non-profit status and violating the reporting requirements for all Independent Expenditure Campaigns:
""While SVREP does not support candidates or political parties, according to our analysis, if the Latino vote would have been hyper mobilized and turned out at a rate of 63.2%, more than 199.759 Latino would have voted. Assuming the rate of Latinos voting for Villaraigosa remains constant at 82% he would have received an additional 51,679 Latino votes. This scenario, more simply expressed as Latinos comprising 32% of all votes cast, would have led to victory for Villaraigosa."
http://www.jimhahn.com/southwestvoter.pdf
You got to be kidding? Jose Huizar doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. He's already been burned in CD14.
Gotta love Linda Breakballs. KCAL9 just showed her asking Antonio a question on why he voted NO on AB2258 and he stumbled. Then another reporter asked a question and sure enough the Antonio flacks whisked him away. LOSER.
Fabian Nunez was shown saying, "this isn't the time to go fundraising back east." I thought he was talking about Antonio but he was talking about Arnold. I laughed so hard.
Flora's campaign has been one giant act of desperation and lies, but now they're getting pathetic. Racism? Please. Sooner or later Flora has to have something to say besides attacking Bill or copying his positions.
So I read in the LA Times that Attention Deficient Villar's campaign is using phone bank volunteers to attack Mayor Hahn.
Read the whole story next time
Easy way to prove the alleged Rosendahl mailer: scan it and send it to Mayor Sam. Obviously you won't because obviously it doesn't exist. You are not "anonymous", we all know you are a Rick Taylor employee. Out yourself. Another lie and desparate act. Flora must really be down in their polls.
So, AFTER Hahn gets his mid-day time on ESPN, when every sports fan in L.A. is keyed in for NBA stats, he get ANOTHER 30 minutes of free Hahn informercial, again on KABC during the after dinner hours on Friday when everyone driving to their parties, and other Friday p.m. activities.
After giving Hahn open air to tell repeatedly how ADV is lying about the child-killer bill, lying about Hahn being MIA from educational issues, and SUDDENLY turning tail on the MECHA organization, Host Al Rantel (so popular they give him a morning and evening show) then goes off on Hahn. Somewhat apologetically, but he says the Hahn campaign is NOT BEING HARD ENOUGH on ADV. He needs to DROP MORE BOMBS, and really expose ADV's record.
ADV needs to be exposed because - if people KNEW HIM, they would vote against him more!
Then he tells the audience that ADV is AFRAID to tell people who he is and THAT's why he's hiding -- won't come on AL's (or anyone's show).
Then the host practically begs his listeners, and especially the Valley, to turn out and vote in Tues.
Not only "can't be trusted" now ADV's AFRAID. The guy who wants to be mayor of Los Angeles, the city of ANYTHING but angels is AFRAID.
Villar + FEAR = Hahn wins.
ADV is a HORROR story. Not even liberals like a pretty boy powderpuff who can't handle the hard questions.
Is it really true that Rick Taylor, Flora, and her urologist husband are locked in a love triangle? I heard Dr. Kris has Rick by the balls!
The only thing good about all the lies and desperate acts of slander that Flora, her consultants, and supporters is that come Tuesday, when Bill kicks some serious Brentwood ass, Flora will not be heard from again. I heard there is a recall movement to have her displaced as president of the Brentwood Community Council. C'mon, Flora, don't you think 6 years is enough? Whatever happened to term limits?
7:28 p.m., you obviously couldn't even find CD14 on the map. Other than Huizar, none of the people you name could break single digits.
Pacheco is a top runner, if he wants it... Cedillo might get some numbers, but he's got a job now. None of the NC leaders has any pull outside their own little fiefdom. One that NOBODY mentions, but who could get traction if Pacheco doesn't go for it is actually one of his ex-staffers - Liberty Mesa. She is universally respected as a hard charger - ran his Northeast office, and has worked for other CMs since.
After a slew of men, none leaving without baggage - real or slimed on them by an opponent - CD14 may be primed for a female councilmember.
NONE of Villaraigosa's people could get 5 points, even if they had his money to back them.
BUT, it's all moot, because Antonio, much to his chagrin, will still technically be the CM of CD14 for at least until next year, when he runs for state senate.
Hey, where's all the outrage about people turning THIS thread into the Flora and Bill chatline.
OFF TOPIC, OFF TOPIC!
Only works one way, huh, when ADV is getting his just desserts.
STOP THE LIES FLORA!!!
Wow. Didn't think the CD11 race would get this nasty. That's what happens when you have two candidates with relatively similar positions, they attack on personal qualities.
And Rick Taylor's presence doesn't hurt much, either.
Saw it get pretty rough at the LACYD endorsement meeting--the organizers had to lay down the law to prevent Bill's tree-huggers and Flora's asian posse from coming to blows.
It's all really too bad; they're both quite nice personally, and both pretty smart. Both would make better councilmembers than most of the others. Oh well.
Hahn's had about a half million bucks worth of unanswered peak hours free time of L.A. radio -- just in the last month -- that yellow-belly Tony V. can't touch.
Captive audiences - no one's leaving their cars to got take a leak, while driving on the freeway.
One of ADV's IEs bought ads on the same KABC hour, and Hahn used 5-6 of his minutes to debunk the 30-second spot.
Now THAT's rebuttal.
He has invites to be on 2-3 more talk shows during drivetime before the vote.
This is a major CHINK in ADv's armor. His hacks say in the Times today, you NEVER let stuff go unanswered -- but most of this radio time is completely one-sided. Almost none of the call-ins are negative on Hahn, either.
At the end of these elections, I will still have respect for Hahn and Villaraigosa, and Rosendahl, and all the other candidates who threw their hats in the rings...except Flora. A new lie, a new low, same old story in Flora's campaign.
Yeah, CD14 poseur at the top -- your just popping names out you picked up on the blog. A couple of the real players are not even in this mayoral fight, and can enter without being weighed down by having been in one camp or the other.
Here's a CD14 tidbit... if you know this, you have an ear in the district - if not, you're a faker.
Parke Skeleton and Art Pulido (of last week's Kerry protest mini-fame) basically live on the SAME block in the district -- right around the corner from each other.
How's that for WEIRD trivia.
ALSO, the house Villaraigosa rented to get into the district to run against Pacheco is one long block away from both of them. Talk about GROUND Zero!
Raise your hand if you knew any part of that? (Okay, two-thirds of you are lying!)
I knew some of that. As proof, there's also an '06 assembly candidate lives 2-3 blocks away in the same small community (not a major player, but he's picking up some steam, and has some downtown money coming in).
CD 14 winner is MEAT
End of Story!!!!
I don't think Bill Rosendahl is a racist.
Anyway, I'm surprised that there has been very little talk of the new endorsements of Antonio Villaraigosa from Zev Yaroslavsky and Tony Cardenas. I'll be honest with you, I just don't know how much these endorsements really mean in terms of actual votes. I can remember back to the Dean campaign where it seemed like he was getting a new endorsement every single day from some important Democrat. In the end, that proved useless. His lead in Iowa slipped, he finished a pathetic 3rd in Iowa 20% behind Kerry. I hope Villaraigosa wins on Tuesday but I think the results will be much closer than the polls are currently showing. People are disinterested in this race and as a result there will be low turnout. Low turnout tends to benefit incumbents. On that count, you vitriolic Hahn staffers are right, at least with me. I am pretty anxious. I beleive that while maybe right now, a large majority of people who plan on voting are planning to vote for Antonio, I'm sure that come election day, there will be a lot of people who will rethink their decision. The media is making way too big of a deal about Antonio being the first Mexican American Mayor and that causes lots of non Mexican American people to worry. So my feeling is, he'll need a big lead going in.
Now a lot of people are talking about how Antonio's campaign is not as exciting as it was 4 years ago. There are some big reasons why. A lot of major stuff has happenned and a lot of other politicians have come along. 9/11, the Afghanistan War, the Iraq War, the Recession, the 2003 Recall, Howard Dean, Barack Obama, the 2004 presidential elections. Let's face it, the prospect of having a latino mayor of LA is not as big or exciting or scary or historically significant as it once seemed. And that reminds me once again, on 9/11 we did have a latino mayor, Alex Padilla. Our city went along just fine through the whole ordeal. I think that's the biggest myth in this whole mayoral campaign. Well that and the idea that Bob Hertzberg is some kind of conservative. He is an extremely liberal Democrat. I would hope for that very reason, he can continue to have a career in politics. We need a voice like his. I am hoping he'll get an opportunity to run for federal office.
One last thing, you all seem to hate Meat with a passion. And by golly, he's said some unintelligent things. But it seems to me that most of the stuff he's said/predicted has been far more accurate than any of the unnessecary vitriole that's been posted in here by Hahn staffers.
Tengo la camisa negra
Juanes
Villaraigosa photo Collection:
Several Links:
http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~richarpm/pages/Antonio%20Villaraigosa.html
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050505/ids_photos_ts/r3946918823.jpg
http://www.ccir.net/NEWS/mechaboy4mayor010116.html
http://www.americanpatrol.com/villad.html
Remember
Tape released Monday May 16, 2005
One day before election day.
Antonio is going down!
Poster you are dead wrong about MEAT. His predictions back in March were off. He thought it was Huggy and ADV. I and many of my friends were going to vote for Rosenthal until we got our mailers yesterday. On the cover there's a photo of "John F. Kennedy" in his boat. Inside there's a photo of Bill and Antonio. I was so angry I tore it up and called all my friends and said vote for FLORA.
With Antonio's record on crime, his "do nothing councilman" attitude, the fact he's missed so many city council meetings, his alignment with Parks, Chair of transpo and hasn't done anything, sits on Education& Neighborhood Committ and hasn't done anything on education and disrespects his own neighborhood councils by not going is enough to VOTE NO ON BOTH OF THEM
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE DON'T TRUST ANTONIO.
LA Times...Nine executives with the New York-based development firm the Related Cos. contributed $9,000 to Villaraigosa this week.
The company is designing a huge $1.2-billion project for Grand Avenue in downtown Los Angeles that will need city approval. The company had previously given $9,000 to Hahn.
But the tables turned after Villaraigosa became embroiled in a controversy about questionable contributions from employees of two Florida companies. Villaraigosa's calendar revealed that he had dined with the president of one company a day before donations poured in from employees of an affiliated company.
When Villaraigosa released his most recent schedules this week, numerous meetings had been blacked out, including campaign events.
CHILD ABUSE BILL....Villaraigosa was questioned about the apparent contradiction. "In Appropriations, you vote on the fiscal implication of a bill," he said. "I voted against it on the fiscal grounds, and I voted for it on public policy."
Voters are angry that Antonio's ad is basically stating the mother with the child who was killed is a LIAR.
Antonio and his flacks Parke, Ace, MEAT are soooooooo dumb this is what they said at their little Harbor event yesterday where only a handful of people showed up.
Daily Breeze......Acknowledging that Hahn has strong support in San Pedro, Villaraigosa told his audience that, if elected, he will preserve some of the mayor's successful port initiatives, including the $700 million waterfront promenade and a program to power ships with electricity.
Thank you ADV. AT this rate you're campaigning for Hahn and telling voters about Hahn's accomplishments. Good going!!
Flora is nothing but a bold-faced liar. In the primary, in the run-off, and forever in my book. Rosendahl knows the issues and has the endorsements, is an amazing speaker, and has a groundswell of support. So what, if you're a quality candidate, you can fight that by good campaigning (and good, truthful attacks), but not on pure lies. She seemed nice when I met her, but now I'm disgusted by her lies, and I hope she stays out of Democratic politics in the future.
Villaraigosa's support of gang members. He's standing up for the Constitutional Rights of gang members.
Los Angeles Times
Editorial Page, January 20, 1992
FOR SAFE PARKS, PUT GANGS ON THE PEACE PATH
By ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA, vice president of the Southern California affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union.
When I was a teen-ager in East Los Angeles, gangs were a part of my everyday life, just as they are a part of the landscape in neighborhoods throughout Southern California today.....more than 700 gang homicides in 1991 are proof enough...... The lawsuit ushered in the latest phase of this controversy began last summer when Dist. Atty. Ira Reiner selected San Fernando's park problem as a focus........Such ordinances simultaneously do violence to the Constitution and create the illusion of action when they actually accomplish very little. They are based on the cynical premise that gang violence can be eliminated by legislating it out of sight.
Families have a right to visit our parks without being attacked by gangs....These rights are as sacrosanct as any spelled out in our Constitution.But ordinances like those that bar whole categories of people from parks don't, in the long term, make our public spaces safer. They condemn young people of color to arrest or harassment on the basis of how they dress or wear their hair. Some of them will be gang members; many will not.
There has not been an authorized mailer from the Rosendahl campaign with Antonio and Bill Rosendahl in a PT Boat. Sounds like you are a bigger liar than your candidate, Flora. Never happened, so you merely make that shit up. You have tried to turn this blog into the same bed of lies and nonsense that Rick Taylor has founded his life upon. Ergo, I would wager you are not "anonymous". Further, you said you were voting for Bill until you received this mailer that never was mailed. Then, your final lie was that you called up all your friends. Unless you were calling up your colleagues at Dakota Communicatins, you and I both know you don't have any friends. Three lies, three strikes, you're out!!!
There was indeed a slate card for Antonio and Rosendahl with a photo of JFK on it. But Kennedy wasn't in a PT boat. He was a in sailboat, most likely off the coast of Massachusetts, and by the looks of the picture,, it was taken fifteen-plus years after the end of WWII.
Some of you people need to quit taking hallucinogenics and check yourselves into rehab.
The only candidate between Bill and Flora who has used a picture of John Kennedy was Flora, in her primary mailer that profaned his picture and legacy by making it her own. She did not campaign for him or his brother, Bobby. She was not endorsed by the Democratic Party. Yet, she has the nerve to title her mailer, "In the Democratic Tradition". No, Flora of Brentwood, you are not in the highest traditions of the Democratic Party. You have not been endorsed by the Party, Bill has. You have not been endorsed by the West LA Dems, Bill has. You did get to "buy" the vote of the LACYD for $25 a vote. So, vote buying and lies are not normally recent hallmarks of the tradition of the Democratic Party. And as for using JFK's picture to insinuate you have a broad base of support by the Democratic Party, just another lie by Rick Taylor. To quote a great Democrat, "I knew John Kennedy, and I know you, you are not John Kennedy." Give it up, Flora. This is not a game for bored housewives on the verge of suffering empty nest syndrome.
Why do Julie Butcher, Bill Luddy and the other unions keep sinking money on a lost cause (by the way, if you have noticed, a lot of the mailers by the so-called Independent Expenditures on the mayor's behalf are virtually identical; surly coordinated. So much for the rules prohibiting such coordination)
Do you think Baca would support Antonio if he thought the mayor had a chance? Surly, opportunistic Cardenas would not have!
Memo to Kam: get your fees before monies run out - you know no one is going to write a check for a lameduck after Tuesday.
Good riddance. Hansta LA Vista, Baby!!
Villaraigosa is a gang lover
Villaraigosa + Jennie Carreon Lacey= Broken Homes
Does her husband know about this affair?
It won't be the first broken home that Tony is responsible for, and it won't be the last.
9:09 ANON
Lee Baca would have endorsed anyone that Parke Skelton directed him to endorse. Lee has no back bone and can't make any tough decisions on his own. But did you notice the look of disgust on his face, standing there next to Bitter Bernie behind Tony.
9:09 ANON stated,
"Why do Julie Butcher, Bill Luddy and the other unions keep sinking money on a lost cause..."
How much money has Miguel and Labor put into Tony's campaigns in the last 5 years? 5,6,7..10 million in union dues? All that money to prop up a stumbling, unethical, unprincipled, pitiful excuse for a man. Unfortanately, Coyote Fabina, Lameboy Padilla, Napoleoan Cardenas, Pretty Boy Alarcon, that's Miguel's legacy. This is how the history books will remember him.
Why is Tony running away from the press - Parke, your lead isn't that solid. Remember 2001, you said you were going to challenge all of Hahn's accusations - what went wrong. Why does Tony look so nervous - does he know what is coming on Monday? Get into panic mode Parke, you blew another one.
I hear June is coming on Monday. If Hahn got the Jaegar mom, June from the Venice Room shouldn't be that difficult.
Wow-
The racism rumors show what we all suspected - Krisiloff's poll shows her way behind and she is desperate. Maybe spend your time knocking on doors instead of making up stories, Rick.
You got it all wrong. It's not June, it's Jean as in Jean Pierre. And it's not the Venice room, it's Le Dome.
DOES ANYONE RECOGNIZE THIS NUMBER/COMPANY? PHONE BANKER FOR AV OR HAHN?
TELEFUND 805-897-1183
WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS FROM THAT NUMBER EVERY NIGHT FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS ---
WE'RE ON THE DO NOT CALL LIST FOR TELEMARKETERS SO IT MUST BE CAMPAIGN RELATED ----
????????????
I don't think it's the June thing, Ace & Parke, it's the conversations you all had at the office, and they are going to be public on Monday. I heard they totally incriminate Antonio and some of his staff. Again, I don't think it's the June thing, but if someone else is pushing that, well, I don't know about that one.
Past poster was way off base on MEAT's predictions (81 percent wrong 100 percent of the time). He's also now SHAMELESSLY putting his own ID into the CD14 "bank" of replacement candidates (but says he lives in CD13 -- another LIE).
MEAT said high level indictments were coming down - weeks ago.
MEAT said Alacron was pulling out before the primary.
MEAT said her knew personal things about CD14 community leaders that would destroy them (private lives, sexual preferences) -- wrong on EVERY account.
A broken clock it right twice a day. MEAT's not even that accurate.
ADV's latest endorsements have been non-stories because they're seen as just what they are --distractions from his inability to justify his own record, or account for stealing his city paychecks for two years and accomplishing nothing.
Plus, look at the matchups -- which are more key for L.A. and better respected
Baca vs. Bratton (for Hahn)
Boxer vs. Feinstein (for Hahn)
Latest "do-nothing" freshman progressives (L.A. Weekly) on City Council jumping on the ADV bandwagon (late) vs. more than half of the Council still with Hahn. And Hahn's portion are the more established CMs who've been able to get things done for the city.
Zev is also late -- won't bring anybody to the party. Other supervisors have trumped his presence already.
ADV pulls in the all-talk/no action corps from Council -- some so late it's immaterial.
you people are fucking crazy.
hey 9:39, i know you are a hahn staffer, and its nice to see jimmy coming right out and posting his "evidence" of race-based conspiracies on his website now instead of just using code words.
God Forbid That Latinos Try to Register and Impact the Process! that would actually project the power inherent in their position in Los Angeles.
Not surprising for a little white boy that had to run away to private school when the big bad negroes bullied him.
I'm sick of all of jimmy's freaking racist code words and other bullshit. that african american phone script is calibrated to inflame black fears of latinos, the whole talk radio anti-immigration bullshit is set to inflame white people and his mail darkens antonio by about 8 shades.
shameless. your father would be ashamed of you jimmy. i just hope torching his entire legacy was worth losing by 6 points instead of 8.
Hey Ace,
Shill out man, who ever posted that message was their given right. You and I might not like it, but that is democracy. BTW, the way your staff has been treating people at the last cleanup really turned off some voters and the talk is that they might just not even vote. What kind of people are you sending out to the clean ups. I support Villaraigosa and this is not right, get the right people out in the field, its costing votes. I know you are busy, but somebody has to tell Tony about this situation. These women that you last sent were rude to the crew (citizens).
ADV's endorsement-of-the-day strategy became worthless when if paled in comparison to the unanswered homicide-of-the-week in Hollenbeck.
Back-scratching, ride-along pols vs. murderous, drive-by gangbangers.
Not even a contest.
11:36, you mess up your own points with you Hahn-hating blindness...
"Not surprising for a little white boy that had to run away to private school when the big bad negroes bullied him."
Compared to: ADV being KICKED OUT of private school for BEING the bully.
Yeah, that was an EXCELLENT point to bring up to make your case.
ADV is still a thug, he just hides his tattoos and wears better clothes. He's "graduated" (something very hard for him to do from ANY school), from gangbanger to political pimp.
The FUNNY part is it's Hahn -- the victim from years ago now standing up like a man and fighting his OWN battles, while historic bully ADV now tries to play "victim," BEGS his supporters to "defend him" and runs like a schoolgirl from any question harder than "where do you buy those NICE expensive suits Tony V."
Which came first with ADV, the chicken or the pimp?
A couple of comments. First ADV claimed when he ran for Assembly that he dropped out of high school when he got a rare disease that forced him to stay home for several months. When did the story change? After taking a poll and finding out this one worked better?
Second, they mentioned in the Times that the Hahn people are attacking ADV because he was censured by the NAACP for not hiring African Americans when he was Assembly Speaker. After he got caught, he started bringing in the Martin Ludlow's of the world, but this issue is just getting exposure and will really hurt Villaraigosa.
Or, as one radio talker referred to that member of the do-nothing "progressive" cliche on City Council:
Martin LudLow-Profile
Hurray for Sarno and that other lady at the cleanup, the accomplished more people to get pissed off at AV!
9:39 ANON
Isn't it convenient how you Tony Lovers/ Truth Haters easily juxtapose the truth for racism. You can't run away from your past, especially if you have Tony's pussy athletic skills.
Baca made an ass out of himself and his poor deputies. LAPD are are supporting HAHN. Antonio may have promised that loser Bitter Bernie something but just his alignment with that corrupt ex-chief has them pissed. Dumb Cardenas. He comes out a couple days left. Shows what a loser mentality he has. IF he really liked Antonio he would have come out a long time ago.
Antonio is so afraid he refused to go on KTLA. Hahn was there and Hal Fishman stated we asked Villaraigosa but he denied. Seems his flacks are afraid that temper is flaring up too often. That's why they had to whisk him away yesterday in front of reporters. What a big sissy!!!! He's losing major ground and is running scared of answering reporters questions.
If he makes mayor -- (won't happen) -- he'll have to double his entourage just to keep the pesky media away.
Lessseee - frontrunners in the 14th? Good question, because it's certain that Antonio will win.
Cedillo would be a fool to try the Sactown to Downtown thing. Candidates trying are like 13-2.
Huizer has got a lot of baggage. Some people here in Boyle Heights have told me he came here illegally, and that it can be proven. If he runs for CD14, with all them candidates, hotdamn will it get ugly. It's like, even if he won, he'd never get no further because of the illegal stuff.
Victor Greigo. Naw, he lost to Pacheco - why would he run again?
I would bet Nick Pacheco takes it without a runoff, if he decides to run. It's like, don't mess with a guy out for vengeance.
If Antonio chooses to mess with the 14th, he'll look very un-mayorlike, petty, and too eastside. Besides, us oldtimers gave him a break this election. We know folks who know folks who know he was present at the sites of two murders. That ain't too mayoral either.
Best to let us sleeping perros lie.
"If he makes mayor -- (won't happen) -- he'll have to double his entourage just to keep the pesky media away."
Right. Except just what do you think Doug Dowie was doing in Hahn's office every day, sweeping the floor and mixing the martinis?
Hahn is no one to talk about expensive P.R. It cost the DWP a bundle. That's what the indictment and grand juries are all about. F-H has given back 5.7 Million; who knows how much they got away with.
Wake up and smell the roses.
And Richard Riordan hired F-H. Isn't he one of Villaraigosa's endorsements?
6:28 p.m. opined: "F-H has given back 5.7 Million; who knows how much they got away with."
Someone gave a pretty thorough analysis of all that a few weeks back here, but if you just even look at the amount F-H billed the city under Hahn's administration, setting aside the (ADV-endorsing) Riordan years, the city HAS to be on the upside of all that - especially saving a ton of legal costs in the process.
Fleishman was only billing the city about $5-6 million a year for PR services and - like it or not - they WERE supplying them under a valid city contract (STARTED by ADV-endorsing Riordan).
Hahn canned them somewhere mid-term -- so ballpark, L.A. is getting back half, or more, of the TOTAL billings for the time he has been in office.
Hell, F. Lee., Johnny C. and Clarence Darrow combined couldn't ever prove a professional service firm like that had padded 50 percent -- if they took it all the way to the Supremes.
Delgadillo said they could only PROVE about $800K in overbilling... (ADV-endorsing, again) Chick, who wants to embarrass Hahn, had the figure much higher at $4+ million -- but that was "questionable" (or, in legal terms... tough luck, prosecution!)
Aften spending millions in legal fees to prove or disprove "questionable" (a number-cruncher's opinion vs. that of a legal expert, like Delgadillo), it's pretty clear it was L.A. that made out like a BANDIT in the settlement, and F-H has not only paid all bogus billings back, but had to EAT millions in legitimate billings to spare their reputation and keep their own lawyers from getting rich in the process.
8:08
You're right.
Don't forget Riordan endorsed Villaraigosa; I'm not sure you mentioned that...
And speaking of worthless endorsements... I'm wondering why, since Antonio hates the current LAUSD system so much, that he would want the teacher's union to support him. If LAUSD is bad and the kids are so dumb, wouldn't the teachers have ANYTHING to do with that?
I'm not saying teachers are dumb, I just think the majority of them are lazy. Union induced laziness. Sheep-like if you will... The education of the students can't be pinned on the few school board members, so the teachers must take responsibility. I'm not sure I would want their endorsement.
I like The Big O as the dark horse, for CD 14th.
Listen, these sleazy telephone calls, these racist TV ads, these ugly mailers would never have happened if Jim Hahn were alive.
His term has been reminiscent of the last term of Tom Bradley.
"Dead Man Walking"; while the apparichniks ran wild behind the scenes, enriching themselves at the City's expense, or should I say OUR expense, as taxpayers.
Jim Hahn is in trouble because he did not run a good administration. He brought this upon himself, and he has no one else to blame except himself and his lack of management skills.
"You can fool some of the people, all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
Jimmy's been fooling all of us for 24 years.
His 15 minutes are up.
Word is that AV wants lausd board member jose huizar to step in & take his place in CD 14 ---if AV thinks lausd sucks, why would he recommend an lausd board member to replace him in CD 14?
Phil -- more and more, the papers are saying the so-called "sleazy" things coming from Hahn's camp are MORE trues than ADV's dodges.
What's so sleazy about making a weasel like ANtonio defend his own voting record? Nothing.
ADV attacked Hahn for six months as part of a "gang" saying being "investigated" is the same as being guilty. Hahn's not guilty, period. And people are getting tired of the "crying wolf" game that ADv is famous for. Now little Tony's crying like a baby about a one-on-one fight.
That's the definition of a tyrannical little thug. ADV's legacy! He's too weak and too cowardly to do any of us any real good, ever.
Good to quote Lincoln, though -- a Republican, a guy who kept the Union together (like Hahn kept the city together). Republicans will vote for Hahn in large majority, and he's supported by all the LINCOLN clubs -- what a coincidence. It IS ADV whose been doing all the FOOLING!
Hahn's not dead, it's ADV's conscience and career that's
The 15 minutes of fame also just applies to actors and celebrities -- like Tony V., whose time as up in 1999. Real public servants like Hahn are not bound by the "15 minutes" because it isn't about "fame." It's about doing a good job -- something ADV will not understand in 15 years, let alone 15 minutes.
To the person who referred everyone to this site, also tell them to boycott L.A.TIMES for the biased reporting.
BOYCOTT, CANCEL, TERMINATE L.A.TIMES
Hey Westsider,
It would have to be this sites moderators, who else has access to the accounts but them.
JImmy's sleaze campaign fell flat on its face this weekend because $1.4 Million is still less than $3.8 Million.
Antonio's constant attention to raising money paid off because he inundated the airwaves with positive and negative ads, about four to one to Hahn's all negative.
Hahn hit some small churches with his son and his sister and Merv Dymally, a sign of times gone by; Antonio hit the big churches with Maxine, Yvonne, Herb, Bernie and a real Icon, Mr. John Mack, a revered figure in this community.
Antonnio went to Israeli Independence Day and was cheered; Hahn went and no one recognized him. He's been absent there for four years as well.
Jimmy is a "Dead Man Walking".
I ought to know one when I see one; I've been dead for years.
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