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Thursday, May 12, 2005

Southwest demands an Apology

Reprint of the Southwest letter today to Mayor Jim Hahn.

As president of Southwest Voter Registration Education Project (SVREP), I take strong issue with the irresponsible public accusations made by your campaign strategist, Kam Kuwata, in the May 7 Los Angeles Times article entitled "Group’s Voter Registration is Questioned." These accusations are patently false, and I demand that your campaign reprimand Mr. Kuwata for his false statements and your campaign issue an immediate apology to SVREP and to the hundreds of volunteers who work tirelessly to empower Latinos at the voting booth.

SVREP, a national non-partisan, non-profit organization, has a sterling reputation of empowering Latinos and other underrepresented communities. Your strategist’s statements display either an ignorance of basic voter registration techniques or demonstrate a bias against empowering Latinos to make their own voting decisions.

As a long-time political operative, Mr. Kuwata should know that you cannot register voters by telephone. SVREP, with over 30 years of registration experience, provides its voter registration project personnel with several hours of training, including specific instructions to register all persons, regardless of race, ethnicity, political affiliations or preferences, when they are out in the field conducting voter registration drives. SVREP staff rigorously monitors its voter registration projects on a daily and weekly basis.

SVREP also assisted the William C. Velasquez Institute (WCVI) in conducting a poll to determine the pulse of the Latino electorate on key election issues and preferences. WCVI sponsored a poll of recently registered Latino voters in Los Angeles. Latino voters were asked in sequence (1) whether they would be voting; (2) if they planned to vote by mail; and (3) for whom the registered voter intended to vote in the upcoming election.

Upon reading Mr. Kuwata’s charges, we launched an immediate investigation. We inspected the telephone database, provided to us from Political Data, Inc. and did not find Rolando Cuevas name in the database.

PATHOLOGICAL LIAR! (DAY 127)

PROVE ME WRONG!

END OF STORY!

81 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you stol my line

May 12, 2005 7:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker,

Why would anyone in their right mind want to apologize to a CROOK called "ANTONIO GONZALEZ." He should apologize for laundering all that money at the expense of taxpayers dollars. What a hypocrite. Kuwata did nothing wrong, he just exposed the truth. Wait until the AG gets their hands on all this, the raffle, money laundering, pandering, using funds to campaign for Villaraigosa, threatening prospective voters at sign ups, intimidation. He just opened a can of worms. I even feel like going to Lincoln Park and gathering names and descriptions of their abuse during the registration for voters at the park. This type of hypocrasy by a fellow Latino makes me so angry, that I just might do that. I am well known in the area, so credibility is there and I will have no problem getting the full scope of their pandering in our neighborhoods. We don't need thugs masquerading under organizations.

May 12, 2005 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A previous Anon posted this on another thread,

"Here's the stuff on Southwest

Alvin Parra is known to launder money and buy up property under his siblings names. He has property up in San Bernardino with taxpayers dollars under a sister's name

It's 501(c)3 previous poster and the Southwest Voter Registration and Education Project under Antonio Gonzalez has nevr acted as a non-profit. Gonzlaez uses this project as his personal pigy bank. The main benefactor of SWVREP is Gloria Molina who has sifted hundreds of thousands from her personal "discretionary" fund to SWVREP. And guess why, because Gonzalez is married to Alma Martinez, Gloria's chief of staff. Gonzalez had first dibs on Alma aftr Tony got through with her, just like Miguel and Maria Elena Durazo. This is why Gonzalez is referred to as THE WHORE by CSUN professor, Dr. Rudy Acuna, the father of Chicano Studies.

SWVREP has tried carnivals, bounties, and expensive billboards, all to no avail. $125,000 to get 12,500 registered voters - $10 per regitration, and 90% of these were probably just change of address - pathetic. If such a project were successful, the number would be up in the hundreds of thousands - 550,000 elligible Latinos will still stay home May 17th.

It is surely unethical given the fact that Gloria Molina's "discretionary fund" which she gets $1,000,000 every year that she can do a she pleases - Gloria has been an ineffective Supervisor for 15 years now, do the math - this is taxpayer dollars. But SWVREP will probably get away with it, just as they did for Tony in 2001 and 2003 - because technically they are supposed to be non-partisan. Although we all know that partisan can mean any given side in a campaign, SWVREP interprets this part of the law as a reference to partisan politics - you know, Republican/Democrats/Green. Since the last three Tony opponents have been Democrats - Hahn 2001, Pacheco 2003, Hahn 2005 and they have all been in non-partisan races, as the L.A. elections are conducted - they think they'll get away with it.

BTW, to launch a District Attorney investigation all that is needed is a written complaint detailing suspected illicit activities -it can even be anonymous! This comes directly from the "how to stymie political opposition" room at Gloria Molina's Office at the Kenneth Hahn County Administration Building. The current caretaker of this room is non other than Gerry Hertzberg, Huggy Bear's special little brother."

May 12, 2005 7:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just ask Gonzalez why he left Texas under cover of night. SWVEP was left without a penny, and his employees were left without being paid for months.

Willie Velazquez is rolling in his grave.

May 12, 2005 7:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Guess What you guys? Antonio Gonzalez doesn't do this car raffle exclusively for Los Angeles, California. He also does this in other states, such as Aluquerque, New Mexico. "link provided."

Here it is:

Voting Recruiters Raffle a Car
(Albuquerque, N.M.-AP, October 26, 2004) — The Southwest Voter Registration Project has cooked up a good idea to drive young Hispanic and American Indian voters to the polls this Election Day.

Get five people to vote, win a shot at a car.

"We're not rewarding voters, we're rewarding volunteers who get voters to the polls with a chance to win. So far, it seems to be getting attention," Southwest Voter president Antonio Gonzalez said of the "Take 5 and Drive" giveaway.

The contest - sponsored by Southwest Voter in New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Nevada - gives volunteers who take five friends or family members to the polls a chance to win a 2005 Ford Mustang.

An estimated 20,000 brochures in New Mexico were sent out advertising the giveaway, and the contest Web site already had more than 20,000 hits.

Gonzalez said the names of voters submitted in the contest will be confirmed after the election by checking voter logs and making phone calls. Both political parties aren't complaining.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/features/strangenews/apress_102604_voters.html

May 12, 2005 7:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio González, president of Southwest Voter, said although only one Mustang will be given out in other battleground states, two Mustangs will be given away in New Mexico.
González said the names of voters submitted in the contest will be confirmed after the election by checking voter logs and making phone calls to the voters. The volunteers don't have to be present at the polls with the voters, they just have to convince them to vote.
Kerry New Mexico campaign spokesman Ruben Pulido said if there is record turnout by Hispanics at the polls, it's not going to be because of a drawing.
"Still, we have nothing against people working to have Americans exercise their right to vote," Pulido said.

Full story here:
http://www.abqjournal.com/elex/247835elex10-23-04.htm

May 12, 2005 7:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And here he says it all,

"...González said that with his organization's estimated $4 million budget this year, it has been able to register thousands of minorities to vote throughout the Southwest, and almost 18,000 in New Mexico alone.
The car giveaway is just one of a slew of new plans the organization has to recruit minority voters.
"We've raised the money through fund-raisers, corporate donations, private donations, grants— basically looking under every tree and rock," he said. "We've worked hard to do more.
"This year for the first time, we're giving away cars," he said.
González said an estimated 20,000 brochures in New Mexico were sent out advertising the raffle and the contest Web site has already had 20,000 hits.
"It's all legal," González said. "We've done it through a lawyer. We're not rewarding voters, we're rewarding volunteers who get voters to the polls with a chance to win. So far, it seems to be getting attention."
For information, visit www.take5anddrive.org."

http://www.abqjournal.com/elex/247835elex10-23-04.htm

May 12, 2005 7:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Always have to copy someone elses patter, don't you Chief Faker. First MEAT's Little signoff, now the PathoLiar poster.

No creative bones in your entire dead body. Left brain, right?

May 12, 2005 7:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The raffle site for N.Mexico

http://www.take5anddrive.org/

May 12, 2005 7:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone please tell me this is not a conflict of interest here. What is wrong with this picture?

Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa
and Assembly Speaker, Fabian Nunez to Speak at the
6 th Annual Su Voto Es Su Voz Golf Classic
April 1, 2005

http://www.svrep.org/press_room/press_releases/05/ca/golf_ca_033105.html

May 12, 2005 7:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Like, what are they GOING to say.. OKAY, you caught us!

It's that CLINTON, liberal Dem thing -- DENY, DENY, DENY!

Jim Hahn needs to take a lesson from ADV's book on that -- he just says "I don't know, I'll let the investigation go on."

Nope, BE more like ADV on this ONE thing Hahn people DENY, DENY, DENY!

(Oh, TWO things. Sure as hell dont' EVER apologize. Make accusations BACK!)

May 12, 2005 7:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BOY, not being able to disprove the "pathological" thing for your boy toy REALLY does piss you Tony Groupies off, don't it. More than JUST about anything else.

Good -- keep thinking about WHY that bothers you so much that you can't PROVE it.

SO, maybe that's ONE for Kam? Maybe? Maybe he was misinformed, instead?

But then, that's just one, and the OTHER side goes like this...

Antonio Villaraigosa IS a pathological liar who CAN'T be trusted to do ANYTHING (not just one thing, not even a few things), that he says.

Someone prove me wrong (pointing the finger back for this one DOESN'T change the outcome).

End of story!

May 12, 2005 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait a minute, wasn't there a poll out that should AV leading substantially by this WILLIAM C. VALASQUEZ INSTITUTE, now I find out Antonio's Southwest Voter Registration did the poll for the institute. However, the William C. Valasquez Institute is headed by Antonio Gonzalez himself. WHAT??????? What is going on?????

May 12, 2005 7:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio + mayor's position = municipal bankruptcy

End of CITY!

May 12, 2005 7:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is what is on the WCVI website. Copy it b4 someone deletes all of this.

"Recently Registered Latino Voters Favor Villaraigosa
Over Hahn by Large Margin
82.4% Indicate Intention to Vote in Election"

“The fact that 82.4% of recently registered Latinos plan to vote in the May 17th Mayoral elections indicates high electoral interest in the community. Nevertheless, it is not likely that turnout will be that high. WCVI predicts overall Latino turnout will be between 40% and 50% of the 340,000 Latino registered voters,” added WCVI President Antonio Gonzalez."

Antonio Gonzalez, President
Southwest Voter Registration Education Project (SVREP)
&
William C. Velasquez Institute (WCVI)

May 12, 2005 7:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Funny how Rolando Cuevas shows up on my database, and I've bought the same data base from Jim Hayes for the last five municipal elections in CD 14. Rolando is there in 1999 as a resident of Boyle Heights - this is when the Big O was helping Victor Griego - but to no avail. And the Big O was on the data base again in 2003 - this is when he helped Nick Pacheco but again to no avail. Antonio Gonzalez says he is not there, but yet there he is, voter ID# 065453735, affadavit# CZ267584, dob 03/15/68. I'd put his address and phone number but I think you get the point.

If Rolando Cuevas is on these data bases provided by Political Data, Inc, isn't hit convenient that he is not on SVREP's data base. And mind you, I don't like Rolando, but yet there he is on those same data bases.

Are we suppose to believe Antonio Gonzalez just because he is the president of this bogus organization that he is using as his personal piggy bank? Doesn't Antonio Gonzalez have any shame? Who is he to be asking for a reprimand. Antonio has been sued, by former SVREP employee Rita Moreno, for sexual harrasment. He regularly uses SVREP funds to pay for his trip and ticket to the last ten Super Bowls. He's practically led SVREP into the ground, just look at the Latino voter registration rate in Los Angeles, pathetic. And he wasn't suporting his daughter in San Antonio until he hooked up with Alma Martinez, Gloria Molina's Chief of Staff and he started bilking Molina's discretionary fund. Is it any wonder that he is known as "The Whore" among Latino politcal circles.

Tony is going to lose because 550,000 Latinos will be staying home on May 17th, Tony can thank his buddy Antonio for this - he just hasn't done his job.

May 12, 2005 7:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANTONIO GONZALEZ HEADS THE WILLIAM C. VALASQUEZ INSTITUTE, A RESEARCH GROUP THAT STUDIES LATINO POLITICS. HE SAYS LATINO VOTERS CAN BE TOUGH FOR POLITICIANS TO TARGET.

May 12, 2005 7:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Kam, Bill - strike while the iron is hot! In the late eighties, one of Antonio Villaraigosa's baby's momma - (his daughter Priscilla Villar's mother, to be exact) filed a claim against Antonio for physically abusing thier daughter. Antonio took her to school were she was taken to the nurses office because of a large bruise on her arm. In the hearing, Antonio claimed that Priscilla mouthed off to him and he pinched her - how was he to know that she would bruise easily. Gil Cedillo knows this mother, as do many of Antonio's former friends. She is married to some Pepsico excecutive. Don't let this one pass you up.

May 12, 2005 8:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How sad, AV hurt his daughter. I used to work for Pepsico, maybe I know this EXEC. Do you have a name?

May 12, 2005 8:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's leave that execs name for the private investigators, it's not his fault he is somehow associated with Tony, that's why I didn't post the mothers name. But I'll give you a hint, in the early nineties he was relocated to Conneticut and now he is back.

May 12, 2005 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio Gonzalez is Villaraigosa's best friend. ADV helped Gonzalez get John Edwards last year for thier big dinner at the Sheraton in the valley. The educated Latinos stay away from this org. cause they know its corrupt. You have Alvin Parra, ADV, Fabian Nunez, Gonzalez, Molina and rest of the idiots running the show soliticing for money and then getting it for themselves. I hope they will be audited. Southwest opened a huge can of worms. That's the arrogance they have just like ADV. I know a lot of people who were approached and YES THEY PRESSURED people telling them if you're a LATINO you should vote for Villaraigosa. He's one of us. BS

May 12, 2005 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pathological Liar + Jim Hahn = End of Story

May 12, 2005 8:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pathological Liar (ADV) + Jim Hahn = Historic Comeback Victory

Get some sleep Parke, you'll need tomorrow when Tony's child abuse record is exposed.

May 12, 2005 8:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If I was handling the Hahn campaign I would make the following commercial with these scenes:

Scene 1: Very hardcore looking, multiple tattooed gang members harassing a family in the park. The police show up to try and do something to protect the family only to be stopped by AV who shows up in time to protect the gang members.

Scene 2: A sleazy, unshaven old man is observing some kids playing on the swings in the park. He pulls out a handful of candy and heads over to the kids. Next you see him walking away holding a little girls hand as she licks a candy sucker. A close up of the man's shirt reveals a button that reads "Vote For Antonio V. for mayor".

Scene 3: Group of L.A.P.D. uniformed officers are with Antonio shooting an endorsement commercial. The director yells, cut! That's a wrap! As the officers walk away the camera zooms in on the back of the officers collars to reveal "Acme Costume Rentals" as these are not real L.A.P.D. officers but non-union actors.
Cut to Mayor Hahn shooting his commercial with the real L.A.P.D. officers endorsing him.

These three commercial scenes will have a tremendous impact.

May 12, 2005 8:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Priscilla Villar will probably play the Macualey Caulkin role if the press gets to her, she should be in her early 20's and capable of being asked tough questions. She isn't on any brochures because she doesn't belong to Tony's trophy family, although she a lot cuter than this family,

May 12, 2005 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

With all this stuff on Tony's child abuse record we should be getting a new thread very soon.

May 12, 2005 8:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Typical Antonio Gonzalez comments:

""Down in south Texas, by the border, you see a lot of activity," says Southwest Voter Registration President Antonio Gonzalez. "The campaign has hundreds of people on the payroll, and there's a lot of energy. Sanchez [who comes from the south Texas town of Laredo] is their candidate."

May 12, 2005 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Dime con quien andas y te diré quien eres"

May 12, 2005 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Will someone tell Antonio that we're not stupid. Those aren't real POLICE OFFICERS in his commerical. Why doesn't he have Parks with him? Because Hahn made the right decision getting rid of his butt. I hope reporters have the gutts to ask Antonio tomorrow "are those real police officers or actors in your commerical"? Hahn has the support of REAL LAPD because they don't want a gangster mayor like Antonio who supports the very people they want behind bars like gang members, child abusers, drug dealers. They will leave in droves if he wins. Parks made us lose 1,000 and with Antonio you can add another 1,000

May 12, 2005 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As keynote speaker at Southwest Voter Registration Project's (SVRP) 1997 conference, Villaraigosa told hundreds of guests, "It is not enough to elect Latino leadership. Latino elected officials who don't support drivers' licenses for the undocumented and prenatal care for undocumented mothers don't belong in office."

May 12, 2005 9:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My husband is an LAPD public information officer, I will record the ad and have him find out who these officers are. If they are not real officers, that will look very bad on Mr. Villaraigosa.

May 12, 2005 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

At another SVREP event Gloria Molina Speaks out, "And our vote is going to be important. But I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to PAY THEM BACK!'"

May 12, 2005 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Presenting Mrs. GLORIA MOLINA-

"Antonio Villaraigosa knew, when he was endorsed by Los Angeles County Supervisor, Gloria Molina, that she was cozy with Anti-Semite separatist Hector Carreon, the publisher of La Voz de Aztlan, but he thought that no one else knew."

He is the former web master of anti-Semitic "Nation of Aztlan" and presently the publisher of "La Voz de Aztlan," (The Voice of Aztlan), a vicious anti-Semitic on-line publication. He is a Chicano separatist who calls California "Alta California." He admires leaders like Yassar Arafat and Fidel Castro. He considers Israel's defense against terrorism as immoral, and Hamas' suicide bombings that target Israeli civilians, as noble. His editorial, Anthrax Terrorists May Be Zionists was reprinted by the "Syria Times" October, 2001, and portrayed by the Arab world as a credible piece of news. A follow-up article was also posted FBI Closes in on Anthrax Terrorist -- Prime Suspect is a Zionist

His name is Hector Carreon.



According to the L.A. New Times (now defunct), when Carreon began taking an interest in local politics, he held several fund-raisers for candidates in his home. One of those fund-raisers benefited county supervisor Gloria Molina.



Molina returned the favor in 1991 by naming Anti-Semite Carreon to Los Angeles County's Real Estate Management Commission. The panel is made up of five citizens, one appointed by each supervisor, who are charged with reviewing county property leases and making recommendations to the board. "Out of the five commissioners, four were judios. County government is puro judio, did you know that?" Carreon asked a reporter.

May 12, 2005 9:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BOYCOTT FORD, BOYCOTT FORD, BOYCOTT FORD, BOYCOTT FORD, BOYCOTT FORD

"...in addition to creating MALDEF and [the National Council of] La Raza, [the Ford Foundation] funded numerous other Hispanic advocacy groups, such as the Southwest Voter Registration Education Project and the Latino Institute."

May 12, 2005 9:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Trust me they are not REAL police officers. You can tell by just looking at the badges. If Antonio wanted real officers why didn't he put the small group of losers who endorsed him? Cmdr. Kim who is retired and who was arrested for domestic violence, Parks who covered up Rampart and corrupt ex-chief, Art Placentia and LALEY the most racist group of small Latinos officers on dept. Antonio promised to select a Latino chief over Bratton, Oscar Joel Bryant Assoc. maybe 15 black officers that are pissed cause Parks got booted. Yup, these are the clown law enforcement officers that are with Antonio yet he doesn't have ONE them in his commericals.

May 12, 2005 10:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Ace and Parke made this move and used fake cops, that would be the dumbest one to date. I would hate to see when this gets out. He should have just used real officers, but if he has no valid support from the officers, he had to resort to this, actors.

May 12, 2005 10:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Avila 30-year-old Lake Elsinore man who kidnapped, sexually assaulted and suffocated the Stanton girl, Samantha Runnion.

This is the type of criminal Antonio protected when he voted against AB2258. Mark Googan Channel 2& 9, John North Channel 7 and the rest news showed the documentation on how he voted. Antonio has been caught in another LIE. His lame commerical is full of lies and now the media is on to him.

May 12, 2005 10:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"This is the morning magazine on AM 870 KIEV. My name is Larry Marino. In studio is Antonio Villaraigosa. He would like to be L.A.'s next mayor."

Villaraigosa:
I, I, I agree uhhh, that uuhhh ummm, as I said earlier that we have a right to enforce our immigration laws. We have uhhh, that's a federal responsibility. We have enough in the way of uuhhh, uhhh, crime in this city. Uhhhh, that, uuhhhh, our law enforcement officers have their hands full.

May 12, 2005 10:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Southwest Voter Registration and Education Project (SVREP), one of the key organizations responsible for the phenomenal growth of the Latino electorate since the 1970s, published a report, “Latino Vote For Beginners – Key facts about the US Latino Vote,” indicating long-term and recent Latino voting trends that point to a large anti-Bush turnout.

May 12, 2005 10:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Worst endorsement of campaign.
LA Weekly
We kept waiting for Antonio Villaraigosa to turn it on in his second run for the mayor’s office. He didn’t do it in the primary campaign. And he hasn’t done it in the weeks leading up to next Tuesday’s vote. It’s as though he’s content with the abysmal 26 percent turnout in March and is doing all that he can to keep from awakening the hundreds of thousands of voters who sat out the primary for fear some of them might vote for Jim Hahn.

Too bad. This is not the inspirational leader Los Angeles needs to fire us up. Nor is it the one Villaraigosa has shown he can be.

He has momentum, though the gap is narrowing and the latest Times poll shows Hahn has cut his lead from 18 points to 11 points, with 9 percent undecided

Is this an enthusiastic Villaraigosa endorsement? Now, that’s another matter. We’d like to be able to say we’re impressed with the job Villaraigosa has done on the City Council, but two years isn’t enough time to make a mark. His district still has a high murder rate, poor schools, lagging economic development. He talks about getting dozens of new stop signs and rallying neighbors for community cleanups. We say that’s great, but it’s not by itself enough of a record on which to run for mayor.

And yet he showed leadership by helping to end a public transit strike, and he kept his national stature high with his role in the Kerry for President campaign. But he’s got a spotty record of showing up for City Council business, including sessions on transportation and education, both of which he claims as special areas of expertise.

And then there’s his campaign. Stumbling in debate, vitriolic at news conferences, he doesn’t seem like the Antonio who captured the nation’s imagination in 2001. He has excelled in one area: He’s raking in the dough. It’s as though he altered his old tattoo to read, “Born to raise cash.”

Still, we’ve seen him as an organizer, an ACLU president and as an especially effective state Assembly speaker, and we know he has it in him to be an energetic and inspiring mayor. We know what Hahn has going for him as well, and we don’t like it. The prospect of four more years of lackadaisical work and missed opportunities is just too depressing to consider. There are enough concerns about Villaraigosa that the city will not likely let him operate on autopilot as mayor. That’s a good thing. It’s about time this city had a mayor like Antonio Villaraigosa, who’s worth our attention and who believes we’re worth his.

May 12, 2005 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 10:08

I am also heartened at the fact that this person, Villaraigosa chose to vote against AB2258. He is a disgrace to public service, as a latino, I am ashamed of him.

May 12, 2005 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio will deny and lie that he voted the way he did. The media got the documentation of both his votes.

Remember Antonio used FAKE police officers in his tv ad back in March. The police officer he now has on his website is also an actor. This is how dumb his campaign people are. Its easy to verify but the arrogance to think people are stupid and wouldn't figure it out is really outrageous.

May 12, 2005 10:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NON PARTISAN ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? OR NOT?

Los Angeles, CA– Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa and Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez will be the keynote speakers at the 6 th Annual Su Voto Es Su Voz Golf Classic on April 1, 2005. The tournament will be held at the California Country Club at 1509 S. Workman Mill Road in Whittier, California, 90601. “We’ve been hosting the Golf Classic in Los Angeles for the past six years and it’s always a great event which raises money for a very important cause,” said Antonio Gonzalez, the Executive Director of the Southwest Voter Registration Education Project. Proceeds from the event will go to fund the Latino Vote LA 2006 project.

Southwest Voter Registration Education Project is the nation’s largest and oldest non profit, non partisan Latino civic/voter participation organization dedicated solely to voter registration, voter education and voter mobilization. Nationally over the last three decades, SVREP has registered over 2.2 million new voters in over 2,300 non-partisan voter registration, voter education, and get-out the vote campaigns.

May 12, 2005 10:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Southwest released a poll that has Antonio way up. Doesn't anyone besides me think it smells fishy when you're best friend Antonio Gonzalez and does a poll that tells all the Latinos they're polling that "you should vote for ADV because he's one of us"? No one is going to believe these crooks.

May 12, 2005 10:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous anon,

The ironic thing is that some papers printed the bogus poll and Antonio "Mr. Authority" Gonzalez made his best friend look untouchable. I agee with you, it smells rotten to the core. Although, some person posted that they had written a letter to the AG regarding this SVREP, so well let the feds take care of their audit.

May 12, 2005 10:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Remarks to the Southwest Voter Registration Education Project Annual Dinner

Thank you for that warm introduction. Thank you Antonio Gonzalez for your leadership here at Southwest Voter. And I want to thank Antonio Villaraigosa, who is here with me today and has been a long time friend of this effort.

May 12, 2005 10:31 PM  

Anonymous meat said:

FROM MEAT:

You idiots can boycott FORD all you want -- but i am sure Bert Boeckmann who owns the largest Ford Dealership in the country ( a Hahn supporter) won't be too happy.

You guys are truly the biggest idiots i've ever had the privilage of fucking with.

blog away you dumbshits!

May 12, 2005 11:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One of your better "factual" retorts, MEAT.

Are you just phone them in from Miami these days, Nathan?

Throw out a couple of taunts, ignore the massice damage being done to your boy in ALL levels of media, call the posters idiots, and move on.

The new "MEAT substitute" menu. Abuse, drive by name-calling, no substance or defense for the felon-coddler who wants to name the next LAPD Chief of Police.

COngrats, you ARE one of ADV gang-bangers now.

May 12, 2005 11:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

CD14 DEMANDS AN APOLOGY from do-nothing CM Villaraigosa's staff:

"These accusations that ADV has been the councilmember from CD14 are patently false, and we demand that your campaign reprimand Jimmy Blackman for his false statements that he is the chief of staff to an L.A. City Councilmember."

May 12, 2005 11:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh man, did this come out wrong...

from tomorrow's LAT:

Helping Hahn means mostly staying out of his way, Carrick said. "We don't sit around and try to figure out how to manage Jim Hahn. This is not the selling of the president. He is what he is. And you just try to make the best case for him you can."

TRANSLATION: WHAT THE HELL CAN I DO WITH A NOTHING LIKE THIS? DON'T BLAME ME! HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING THE CASE FOR HIM IS IMPOSSIBLE BUT AT LEAST I'M GETTING PAID.

I may be reading into it a little, though...

May 12, 2005 11:56 PM  

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May 13, 2005 12:06 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

That IS the worst print endorsement 10:13 p.m. Anonymous -- almost a "why bother, just stay home" pitch -- which is Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa's worst nightmare.

But I THINK I may have heard the most damaging endorsement of the election for ADV® early today on radio. The problem for ADV® is, it was supposed to be a $100,000 BOOST to his campaign in the final moments, as his numbers keep sliding down.

I'm not sure what they were thinking, but I'm starting to believe this Richard Muerelo guy may be a pro-Hahn plant. Whatever. . . as the ADV®-lovers would say about him stealing the Northeast school property, "it'a ALL legal."

I'd read that Muerelo was paying for radio ads, "starring" Dick Riordan, which seemed odd to put those two together considering the "education" connection (or LACK of education for HS students robbed of a new school), but I just assumed the land-grabbing developer was only putting up the money, and would stay in the background.

NOT so... MAYBE fortunately for Hahn. After praising ADV® like he'll be an even BETTER mayor than the spokesperson (Riordan) himself (without saying why... just blather), he ends the ad by saying: "so join me and BUSINESS LEADER RICHARD MUERELO in supporting ADV® for mayor next week.

Okay HE didn't actually say "ADV®" - but WOW. Don't these people READ the papers? Don't they know how fast the scuttle-butt about the loss of this prime school land has been spreading -- Eastside and everywhere else. (And, don't they know that the Hahn-hater Blogging Krew here keeps saying "there's no connection between them!")

In the SAME day, Hahn's ads are showing a grieving mother talking about a highly damaging vote. ADV® has to cut short the "pro-Villaraigosa" buildup ads to go back on defense, with a easily debunked "other bill" truth-bender of a con job, Then he's paired up PROUDLY with someone who just did the dirty deed of sentencing Eastside school kids (well, all but TWO very notable ones, anyway) to MANY more years of overcrowding, substandard education, and failure.

Maybe Antonio's rebuttal ads should have been more ALL encompassing of the weeks events -- simple and straightforward. . . "Despite EVERYthing you've been hearing lately -- from Hahns supporters AND mine --I REALLY don't hate children, honest, I swear it!"

Hahn should send a thank-you note to this pro-ADV®, school-land extorting guy. He may be the best known, most notable Republican in this race supporting ADV® but ACTUALLY helping Hahn.

Keep playing those Riordan/Muerelo ads proudly -- two DICKS making ADV® look like, well (you get the picture) Northeast voters CAN add 2+2 (despite lousy overcrowded schools). EVERY local paper has made Muerelo the poster boy for "anti-kids" in that area. Not all put Richard M. and Tony V. together in the same box, however. . . but Muerelo's ads JUST did.

Hahn doesn't need to help people connect those dots anymore -- ADV®'s "friends" are doing a gangbang-up job on their own.

Thank you, Richard Muerelo. You really ARE one of ADV®'s better friends. Instead of slavishly following him off a cliff, you're helping keep him out of yet ANOTHER political position he's unfit to hold -- and saving him from another do-nothing, indefensible failure in office.

Friends don't let incompetent friends win higher office.

Hahn, 52; ADV® 48... to the bitter, ADV® self-sabatoging end.

May 13, 2005 12:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hey hahnistas, will you please tell whatever worthless schmuck you have running antoniocheck.blogspot.com to turn on comments? I can't be the only one with some shit to say to you pussies...how pathetic to post that Vignali garbage AGAIN. At this point, it'd be too late to unleash new slime even if you had it. People know to ignore these last minute allegations from your flailing campaign by now. And how 'bout that funeral, huh? Maybe the Fed endorsed Hahn but it sure looked like Maria Elena endorsed Antonio today...And SacNighties, you already posted that trash. it didn't take the first time and spamming us with it again doesn't make it sound any better.

May 13, 2005 12:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

YEAH, 11:56, you CAN'T read:

This...

"Helping Hahn means mostly staying out of his way..."

Means Jim Hahn has his own brain - not one shared with campaign hacks through cue cards, like ADV.

Hahn does the work -- we just get the word out (Carrick is saying).

But NOTICE that when ADV's campaign needs to get a point across that involves more than 1-2 sentences, they shove ADV in the direction of hand-shaking admirers, of scoot him back to the car, and then ACE, et al. tell people "What WE, I mean TONY think is..."

Antonio is a puppet, the puppetmasters are pulling the strings, and they're getting him ALL tangled up with his own career failings now.

May 13, 2005 12:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 12:13am:

Riddle me this: "This is not the selling of the president."

What's your spin on that? It either means

a) Carrick doesn't think Hahn or his campaign is very important, the way a presidential campaign would be (like that fantastic Gephardt campaign, I'm sure).

b) On your "generous" interpretation, it means the Hahn campaign thinks the President of the US of A is a moron who needs handlers where Hahn doesn't. That's a pretty incredibly stupid thing to say when Republicans are practically the only one's even considering voting for your boy...

Having fun choosing!

May 13, 2005 12:19 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

It's a rewrite, angry blogger... Bulldog edition. Don't like; don't read. Had to update it since the new/recycled ADV® rebuttal ads came out, with him tripping over his own record, trying to prop up his sickly "public safety" record with a bill as flaccid as ADV®'s performance in City Council... neither one ever made a dent in the problem.

You must be a full-timer, however, reading all 200 posts a day?

How much is ADV® paying you to taunt people who USED to trust in his never-meant-to-keep-them promises?

Sock it away for a rainy day... the ADV® parade is due for stormy weather next week, and his umbrella's upside down and full of Florida funny munny.

May 13, 2005 12:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Imagine wanting Riordan's endorsement. I really think this guy is starting a sad descent into dementia.

One shouldn't brag about being endorsed by the man who spent the end of his mayoral run trying to make a power grab of the LAUSD Boardmembers.

Then the not so bright governor, who just wanted the Riordan endorsement to get him out of the race himself, promised him a plum appointment.

But the down sliding Riordan thought it would be okay to tell a schoolchild that her name meant dirty little girl. She cried.

When Riordan endorses - candidates lose.

May 13, 2005 12:20 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

And "didn't take the first time" means, obviously, "I have no rebuttal, but to dismiss it as "spam."

You have me confused with someone else. "Spam" is chopped "MEAT" with unhealthy ingredients added as filler.

May 13, 2005 12:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pretty funny poster, when Riordan endorsed Hertzberg, ADV-lovers were spinning themselves into the ground with the same kind of crap, saying his endorsment meant Hertzberg was a "dirty stupid little candidate."

HA!

May 13, 2005 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hope in Sacto's re-rant, you all caught to significance of Richard R. , Mr. "improve the education system" the soon-to-be ex-head of state education, shilling radio ads for a land-grabber who just killed off a school deal for LAUSD in one of the most overcrowded portions of the district (so Richard M. could make some more "affordable housing" for his family members to slumload over).

And the both doing for ADV, who "supports" LAUSD by driving his kids out-of-town to rich "non-minority" schools in other cities.

What a pair, of DICKs. (Good one, Sacto).

May 13, 2005 12:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hope in Sacto's re-rant, you all caught to significance of Richard R. , Mr. "improve the education system" the soon-to-be ex-head of state education, shilling radio ads for a land-grabber who just killed off a school deal for LAUSD in one of the most overcrowded portions of the district (so Richard M. could make some more "affordable housing" for his family members to slumload over).

And the both doing for ADV, who "supports" LAUSD by driving his kids out-of-town to rich "non-minority" schools in other cities.

What a pair, of DICKs. (Good one, Sacto).

May 13, 2005 12:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sacties: it's ADORABLE that you liked your comeback so much you decided to post again just to get it in there! MEAT/SPAM? Hi-larious!

And once Hahn loses, there's always the Improv.

May 13, 2005 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For Attention Deficit Villaraigosa lovers sitting in the driver seat don't they all sound angry today. Where's the confidence? MEAT using a curse word at us. Could it possibly be that their little golden boy sure is looking awful these days. That temper is acting up like yesterday when media asked about his vote against child abusers? OR could it be he knows this is the time he lost in 2001 cause Hahn brought out the big guns?

His stupid tv ads state like a crybaby "Hahn used attack ads against me." What a damn whiner. NO HAHN USED THE TRUTH AGAINST YOU LYING INCOMPETENT COUNCILMAN

May 13, 2005 5:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BOYCOTT TIMES BOYCOTT TIME BOYCOTT LA TIMES

This is what Parke Skelton, who guided Villaraigosa's unsuccessful 2001 campaign for mayor, said he never expected to win four years ago.

And you won't win this year.

May 13, 2005 6:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a lazy ass reporter Patrick McGreevy is. The Times reporters are still protecting Antonio and not reporting facts. Don't buy the newspaper go online and get it free.......

City officials, including Villaraigosa, have balked at a five-year extension of the contract with Affiliated Computer Services. They say that the company needs to reimburse Los Angeles for up to $23 million in parking revenue that the city contends it is owed.....
Villaraigosa raised questions about the contract in February. Since then, his mayoral campaign has received $3,500 from six ACS executives..

Antonio is such a lazy ass himself as Chair of the Transportation Committee Villaraigosa FORGOT to collect. Can you imagine how many more police officers we could have hired. Why don't the reporters ask Antonio why he forgot to collect.

May 13, 2005 6:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You go "Z" Man David Z. Daily Breeze. LA Times reporters take note. This is how you do a "real" story.
Daily Breeze, Villaraigosa's schedule called 'sanitized'
Councilman's work list excludes out-of-town fund-raising events

Now Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa is the one under fire for releasing an updated schedule from the past two months that has almost no mention of his campaign activities.

Villaraigosa was the first candidate in the mayoral campaign to release a complete schedule covering his office meetings and campaign appearances from July 2003 through mid-March. He chided Hahn in televised debates for refusing to do the same.

"He is giving (out) a very sanitized schedule," Kuwata said. "I'm sure he's taken off the meetings he's held with whatever special interest he's sold off Los Angeles to."

May 13, 2005 6:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They had to sanitize the schedule. What would it look like if he were to put those late night escapades with Jenny, right down from his Mt. Washington home, at the vacant Taylor Yard site. This is one of Tony's favorite spots to park since he knows that going to a motel is a no no during campaign season - that's how he got busted with Martha Reyna, his comadre, in 1994 while Corina was home recuperating from cancer treamtments. Good ole' Tony, still fantasizing about his cruising days and making out in the backseat of cars.

May 13, 2005 7:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Watch out Watch out Mayor Sam will post about 4 negative articles to DISTRACT today.

May 13, 2005 7:58 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Yuck, yuck, 12:34 a.m. anony-mouse. Couldn't sleep? Must be a guilty conscience from backing (and probably working for) a sub- sub-standard city councilmember. If they had those restaurant grade ratings on their desks in the well, Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa's would say "D" - for (political) dinosaur.

And that's being generous...

Is it true he and John Kerry stopped by a city parke on the way to that rally to eat leaves off the tops of oak trees?

Typical ADV defender response, however... avoid the issues, ignore the dirty connections, and just insult the messenger.

Top notch debate points! After the election there's always bussing tables at the Pantry for you CD14 field staffers, too.

May 13, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hoo Ha! It just gets better. ADV-lovers trying to tout one of Hahn's bitter "Valley City" wannabe councilmembers bashing him on a religious radio station with a transponder powered by sickly Griffith Park squirrels, and TODAY, Hahn is one ESPN radio -- DURING NBA PLAYOFFS season.

You have to wonder if this is ALL just because ADV is too yellow-bellied to answer tough questions from radio listeners about his ratty record, or it his nerdy campaign hacks just don't know the difference... ESPN? NBA? Are those PACs. Quick somebody, look those up so we know who'se funding ll his

FREE radio DRIVE TIME media blitzes.

OUCH!

May 13, 2005 10:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:22 a.m. said - "What a lazy ass reporter Patrick McGreevy is. The Times reporters are still protecting Antonio and not reporting facts."

No shit, two other times, at least in recent coverage they've taken apart claims against ADV and just laughed off his serious credibility problems like, "so

what.

When they were talking about him breaking his promise to his district not to run for mayor, they said "so what, politicians always do it - Delgadillo is making

plans to run for another office within weeks of re-election." BUT Delgadillo did make a SPECIFIC promised not to during his campaign and REPEAT IT 50

times, like ADV did. Delgadillo is also in his SECOND term, not the first half of his FIRST.

Then TODAY, they take apart Hahn's ad on the Florida money and say "no evidence ADV did favors for the contributors. But in the VERY NEXT

SENTENCE, they talk about him trying to kill contracts extentions for COMPETITORS of the Miami money people (to open the door for THEM to get the

contracts).

DID the TIMES fire all it's editors and fact checkers when they lost all those subscriptions (to save money)? Don't they even read their OWN stuff. How

more BLATANT can you get than that! Oh, but ADV says there's NO connection. (And he ALWAYS tells the truth, right CD14???)

May 13, 2005 10:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hey anon 7:37----Isn't Jenny (Jennie, Jennie) married? Her husband must know by now of this affair, right?

May 13, 2005 11:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you want to find out about ADV's affair, you can call

Hi! I’m Jennie Carreon-Lacey, one of the Field Coordinators for the Villaraigosa for Mayor campaign. I just wanted to share with you a brief report on our exciting grassroots mobilization summit from this past weekend.

Eastside Campaign Headquarters 1868 East 1st Street
corner of 1st and State
Call (323) 262-1724

May 13, 2005 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is a few days old, but VERY telling about the reliability of the L.A. Times latest poll:

http://www.mattszabo.com/archives/2005/05/la_times_poll_i.html

Basically it shows that nearly one out of every 10 voters favoring EITHER mayoral candidate (identical numbers for Hahn or ADV), consider corruption an ASSET, not a liability.

Supposedly this poll has a margin of error of only about 4 percent, but this seems to strongly suggest their numbers are off WAY more than that, or else quite a few people questioned were very confused or intentionally trying to jerk the poll off its axis for fun or profit.

Most likely it means the MOE is several times what they claim...

May 13, 2005 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone seems to like the little math problems they keep posting -- A+B=C, Here's an equation that defines the candidate very well.

So the Breeze reports that ADV wiped his calendars clean of campaign activities. Campaign confirms, saying they don't have to show that stuff.

Earlier, the Times reports on these same calendars and says ADV's show that he spent nearly all his time - for most of the past year - on campaign activities (while getting paid $140K to be a full time councilmember -- but that's another equation). Note, though that the Times fails to mention there are no specifics about these campaign activities (representing most of his released information) -- an omission that adds proof to the argument the Times is going easier on ADV (also another "equation").

ADV then beats Hahn up for not releasing his calendars, so he does -- and Times reports that unline ADV, he has "balanced" his time between city work and campaign.

But, if ADV spent almost ALL of his time campaigning, and purged those specifics, then WHAT information exactly was he actually releasing? Absolutely nothing -- nearly blank calendars, with just placeholders for campaign time.

Yet another bogus campaign trick to try and embarrass the other guy, without ever really being forthcoming himself -- when what SHOULD have been an embarrassment -- to ADV, was the fact that he was stealing city money every time he deposited his paycheck. AND, the information ADV his was the VERY same kind of details

EQ: Something (ADV's calendars) - nearly everything (his campaign time) = almost nothing (delivery on promises).

The more "open" and forthcoming this guy claims to be the more deceitful he actually is -- more weasel words and equivocations from this "all show" talker who has accomplished nothing in two full years.

"I voted against it, but then voted for it."

"I promised not to do that, but was 'compelled' to break that promise."

"I support public education but avoid using it myself. My opponent runs from educational issues, but entrusts his family to LAUSD."

"I support business development in Los Angeles, but I spend MY money elsewhere."

"I'm tough on crime, but not on criminals."

"My opponent is MIA, but I missed more council and committee meetings than any of my peers."

"My opponent is invisible, but I haven't been seen at a neighborhood council in my district in two years."

"My opponent is under investigation, but I wipe clean from my calendars the information investigators are most likely to want to see."

Enough -- there is no cure on the market for ADV's allergic reaction to the truth!

Hahn is already a better option to never being told the truth, and we can do even better in four years.

May 13, 2005 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

god, you people are pathetic.

do you shrivel up and die from your own bitterness after hahn loses on tuesday, or do your fat-ass souls (if you still have them) disappear wailing into the ether, banished until the next mayoral election?

what you people or person needs to understand is that just because you wish it is so doesn't mean it is. posting your tormented spin and naive outrage here doesn;t mean its real or even convincing - it just means you're either a liar or self-deluded or maybe both.

you freaks are shameless.

cue "no, ADV is shameless" rant by paid hahn-blogger.

except hahn is too much of a freaking coward to even have a blog.

May 13, 2005 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's quite poignant, actually, that all of you soon to be unemployed Hahn staffers are spending your last Friday afternoon on a cushy taxpayer funded job desparately blogging away as if it would somehow stave off the inevitable.

Like the band on the Titantic playing "Nearer My God to Thee."

glub...glub...

May 13, 2005 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You don't really know a lot about how L.A. city works, do you dim-bulb.

IF ADV did win the mayor's race (not gonna happen) he wouldn't become the mayor for another 6-7 weeks. They don't clear the building the week of the election and let your boy toy move in -- at least not until they've counted the silverware.

May 13, 2005 5:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And handed out "protection" to any females under 35...

May 13, 2005 5:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Proof of Southwest Voter Registration Education Project's working as a field organization for the Villaraigosa Campaign, in violation of it's 501(c)3 non-profit status and violating the reporting requirements for all Independent Expenditure Campaigns:

"While SVREP does not support candidates or political parties, according to our analysis, if the Latino vote would have been hyper mobilized and turned out at a rate of 63.2%, more than 199.759 Latino would have voted. Assuming the rate of Latinos voting for Villaraigosa remains constant at 82% he would have received an additional 51,679 Latino votes. This scenario, more simply expressed as Latinos comprising 32% of all votes cast, would have led to victory for Villaraigosa."

http://www.jimhahn.com/southwestvoter.pdf

May 13, 2005 9:40 PM  

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