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Friday, May 13, 2005

Wacko Walter: Hahn Paid GOP

In the latest twist in the Mayoral race, Walter Moore - the self described only Republican to run for Mayor (other than Billy Wyatt) who gained enough votes to probably deny Bob Hertzberg a runoff berth and keep Jim Hahn alive - has left the Republican party.
Have you wondered why Republican Party officials -- who did nothing to help elect a Republican as L.A.'s next mayor -- are now campaigning so vigorously to elect Democrat James Hahn? The answer appears to be "money." Learn the details at MooreIsBetter.com by clicking on "For Sale: Los Angeles County Republican Party." If you're still a Republican, you'll want to join me in re-registering as an independent.
Cordiallly, Walter Moore.

Moore is charging that Jim Hahn paid local GOP officials $20,000 to campaign for him and deny opportunities to Republicans. You can read Walter's case here. And with that, Walter has left the party to become an independent.

Man, I heard the local GOP officials were corrupt, but didn't know it was that bad. Republicans should be pissed. I know I am. No wonder some decent moderate Republicans can't win. These people are in cahoots with the Democrats!


Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Wacko" a MODERATE... not in any GOP caucus since Reconstruction!


May 13, 2005 10:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you knew Walter the way many of us do, you would know he is not saying the truth, vendetta. (it's personal)

May 13, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hoo Ha! It just gets better. ADV-lovers trying to tout one of Hahn's bitter "Valley City" wannabe councilmembers bashing him on a religious radio station with a transponder powered by sickly Griffith Park squirrels, and TODAY, Hahn is one ESPN radio -- DURING NBA PLAYOFFS season.

You have to wonder if this is ALL just because ADV is too yellow-bellied to answer tough questions from radio listeners about his ratty record, or it his nerdy campaign hacks just don't know the difference... ESPN? NBA? Are those PACs. Quick somebody, look those up so we know who'se funding ll his

FREE radio DRIVE TIME media blitzes.


May 13, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Boyds should IMMEDIATELY resign. This conflict of interest is disgraceful. They have embarassed both themselves and our party getting paid to back that loser Hahn.

May 13, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is this similar to what Tony paid Maxine and her family to get her endorsement? Parke, what was Maxine going rate for that Gordon race a few years back, $25K?

May 13, 2005 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Prett funny, that. . . Boyd on McIntyre yesterday was saying one of the main reasons Moore didn't get the county endorsement was that he nearly went Postal on the board, demanding things, going off all "wacky!"

May 13, 2005 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He's STILL pretending he had some kind of chance (if EVERY GOP voter turned out and they ALL voted for him)... like, "where" on the non-partisan ballot does it say "HERE -- THIS ONE'S the BEST GOP guy to vote for!).

Please, this the the DEFINITIONS of the sourest of sour grapes.

WE KNOW this is what the ADV-lovers want. Get the 20-25 percent of the registered that are GOP to go off an "idealoguey" and vote for someone who SAYS they're GOP and doesn't have 1 shot in a million of making the runoff, and if he DOES has -1 chance in a million of doing ANY damage to

ADV would be leading Moore by 55 points in the Times poll if he had somehow miraculously squeaked by.

May 13, 2005 10:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How much has Hahn paid Disney to get McIntyre and ESPN to goo all over him?

May 13, 2005 10:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To hell with the money (and I though ADV people were crowing here that they had GOP's on staff????)

Boyd summed it up best on the radio - ADV is the democrat thatb can do the MOST damage to the GOP agenda,or the agenda of ANYONE to the right on Fidel Castro...

Make the best of being a very small minority in L.A. and get the best concessions from the bullies in the majoritym or DIE on principal. Hahn has appointed a few Republicans, and MANY more moderates than and ADV mayor would EVER even consider.

If ADV gets achance to clean house it's going to be do-nothing, pander-gridlocked "progressives" under every commission rock.

And the city will grind to a long-term halt.

May 13, 2005 10:21 AM  

Anonymous Another Fed Up Republican said:

Wacko Walter may have not been the guy, but the GOP could have put forward someone serious - however that requires an effective organization, something the Boyd's don't want (because it means they would have to give up their cushy positions).

The Boyds don't care about the Republican party, they only care about how much free food and drink they can get and be grand poobahs of a dying party they are helping to kill.

May 13, 2005 10:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Looks like Doug and Linda will soon be joining Mayor Hahn in earning the title "Former" before their name. "Former" Mayor, "Former" Treasurer of the CRP, "Former" head of the LACGOP. Hopefully Doug will at least be able to use some of that money to buy Hahn a drink Tuesday night when he loses.

May 13, 2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:20 said: "How much has Hahn paid Disney to get McIntyre and ESPN to goo all over him?"

How much has ADV paid the L.A. Times?

Too bad ADV couldn't raise enough money in 5 elections to create enougn spin to undo the damage his own voting record has done to him -- which is why he has to run and hide from every radio station that actually has listeners in the city.

(But he'll by lying ADS on them...)

May 13, 2005 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Too bad Villaraigosa will never be able to use the title "former" city councilmember...

Because he never even STARTED work!


May 13, 2005 10:25 AM  

Anonymous 3rdFloorGuy said:

For those of you bitching that Mayor Sam isn't scooping anymore, looks like he did on this one. He beat LA Voice by a good 10 minutes, Boi From Troy & Roderick don't even have the story yet.

May 13, 2005 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just LOVE how all then fake Republicans (on ADV's payroll of course), pop up here to bash Hahn's efforts to "unite" the two parties behind the only candidate BOTH can support -- HIM.

Where were all you fake GOP bloggers when Moore and Wyatt WERE on the ballot? Dissing them left and right as "crazies" while supporting the most insane contender of the ballot (ADV - for thinking HIS socialist backside will ever sit in L.A.'s mayor's chair).

May 13, 2005 10:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio's title will become "Former City Councilman and current Mayor."

Hahn's title will become "Former Mayor," followed soon thereafter by "Inmate Number 4582345" once the District Attorney and U.S. Attorney finish up their investigations.


May 13, 2005 10:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pretty smart of all concerned if you ask me. GOP people take Hahn's money, help elect a lame duck liberal democrat, and get another shot with REAL GOP candidates in 4 years. Hahn pays a pittance to get some assistance getting in GOP votes, and exploits ADV's weakness among moderates and conservatives.


ADV, meanwhile, gets endorsments from Parks and Hertzberg (for god-knows what back-room deals), and immediately starts losing ground among THEIR support groups.


May 13, 2005 10:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV could ONLY be current mayor in one major U.S. city -- Panic City, which is where he's at right now.. JUST like four years ago.

(Oh, he might make a runoff in some socialist city like D.C., with some key backing... or maybe in S.F., if he carpetbagged, again. But then that's NOT a major U.S. city...)

May 13, 2005 10:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boyd made it VERY clear when he spoke for/about Hahn -- he was NOT speaking as an official of the GOP party, county, etc. Just a Lincoln Clubs person, and they CAN endorse in any party.

But, HEY, what's thebig BEEF. I thought that Fake GOP for ADV dude said ADV has LOTS of GOP support.

AND... there's Richard Muerelo!

WHAT could be better!!!

May 13, 2005 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Um, scoop? This was in the morning paper... hit the street 6-8 hours ago.

SO, Mayor Sam can read!


May 13, 2005 10:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Orrr, it was on McIntyre -- anyway, I heard it hours ago on MASS media.

May 13, 2005 10:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is paying someone from another political party to work for your campaign in a non-partisan race (where the other party represents 1 in 4 votes), ILLEGAL?

Or is it just SMART!

And are Villaraigosa's supporters REALLY outraged by this, or just too dumb-dumb to think of doing it themselves, OR just couldn't find any GOP operatives with any current party pull and influence that could hold their noses long enough to work in the midst of the rabid, socialist, far-left stench that surrounds ADV?

Hmmm. a GOP dude supporting a law-and-order, ex-prosecutor Democrat in a non-partisan office, versus supporting a felon-coddling, friend of school-site-stealing ACLU alum.

I think it was PROBABLY the last, "stinky" problem that ADV people have with this.

Then, of course, there's the SOUR GRAPES!

May 13, 2005 10:44 AM  

Blogger Republican against ADV said:

Boyd should be commended for making the best pragmatic choices in a tough season for L.A. Republicans -- and getting some walking around money in the process.

You hacks must think all GOP people are stupid yokels you can tweak around with fake indignation and "rally the few remaining troops" battle cries.

PLEASE, we live in this city - we know some political realities, and no one but a RHINO would see any way clear for their vote but to keep the most far-left liberal out of office, Villaraigosa.

Hahn's GOP backing is not "rabid" like Antonio's on the far left, but the distaste for ADV and what he stands for (of, maybe bends over for) is staggering.

May 13, 2005 10:50 AM  

Blogger Republican for AV said:

I am totally disgusted with the Boyds.

If either runs for office again, I will oppose them, except for the Lincoln Club, of which I will no longer be a member.

May 13, 2005 10:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Speaking of the Times, 10:24 a.m., they're bias is becoming so much more obvious. Twice in recent coverage they've taken apart claims against ADV and just laughed off his serious credibility problems like, "so what.

When they were talking about him breaking his promise to his district not to run for mayor, they said "so what, politicians always do it - Delgadillo is making plans to run for another office within weeks of re-election." BUT Delgadillo did make a SPECIFIC promised not to during his campaign and REPEAT IT 50 times, like ADV did. Delgadillo is also in his SECOND term, not the first half of his FIRST.

Then TODAY, they take apart Hahn's ad on the Florida money and say "no evidence ADV did favors for the contributors. But in the VERY NEXT SENTENCE, they talk about him trying to kill contracts extentions for COMPETITORS of the Miami money people (to open the door for THEM to get the contracts).

DID the TIMES fire all it's editors and fact checkers when they lost all those subscriptions (to save money)? Don't they even read their OWN stuff. How more BLATANT can you get than that! Oh, but ADV says there's NO connection. (And he ALWAYS tells the truth, right CD14???)

May 13, 2005 10:53 AM  

Blogger Republican against ADV said:

I'm sure the Boyds will miss your support, FAKE GOP person... especially since your anonymous here, and obviously a part of the ADV paid blogging bunch.

But they won't have any way of knowing "who" they've lost the support of, right Parke?

May 13, 2005 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH yeah, speaking of Parke -- he had to change up his "musical" tastes, albeit ecletic" in the puffery piece about him in the ADV-LEANING Times -- since someone outed him as a liberal/socialist guilt-ridden (BLACK) jazz maven.

So now he's BIG on 'bluegrass." Yeah, like that jives.

Might be good though. The weather forecast for Wednesday morning next week is slightly overcast -- and I know one lying pol on his client list that's going to need some SERIOUS attention at his hillside home that day when he undergoes a MAJOR "Foggy Mountain BREAKDOWN." Better have the bodyguards standing by to disarm him when he comes looking for the hacks that made him a TWO-TIME loser in the same race he was handicapped to WIN twice.

(Just make sure he signs the checks, first!)

May 13, 2005 10:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Difference between Hahn and Antonio is Hahn doesn't have to lie on TV ads like ADV. THose police officers are FAKE not real cops. Hahn got endorsed today by REAL LAPD. Ohhhh looks like ADV is in trouble again by Daily Breeze.
Villaraigosa's schedule called 'sanitized'
Councilman's work list excludes out-of-town fund-raising events

Credit L.A. mayor on safety, stability, housing

We supported Los Angeles Mayor James Hahn's re-election bid back in March and continue to do so in the runoff campaign against a popular city councilman, Antonio Villaraigosa.

We base our endorsement of Hahn on many of the same reasons voiced by Harbor Area residents, who overwhelmingly supported the mayor two months ago. They include:

•Hahn's appointment of William Bratton as police chief, his efforts to restore community policing and the resultant 18 percent drop in crime over the past two years.

•The easing of tensions between Harbor Area communities and the Port of Los Angeles as a result of the formation of a Port Community Advisory Committee, progress on the waterfront promenade plans and the efforts to craft a long-term plan to hold the line on port pollution.

•The progress the city has made in doubling housing production in a region where demand for homes consistently outpaces supply.

•The approval of a modernization plan for Los Angeles International Airport. This is a work in progress, and the city will need to dialogue with neighboring communities to ease congestion fears. But the overall goals of the plan are sound: Keep annual passenger traffic to below 78 million and make LAX less vulnerable to acts of terrorism.

Credit the mayor also with working to hold the city together when San Fernando Valley leaders were advocating secession. Meanwhile, traffic remains a perennial headache, but a study released this week found that traffic delays in the L.A. region in 2003 were actually a bit less than in previous years.

Hahn's leadership style may not be flashy, but he has provided stability and hope that the quality of life here can be improved. We urge L.A. voters to re-elect him on Tuesday.

Find this article at:


Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the article.

May 13, 2005 11:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JUST to clarify one very misleading point here.

VILLARAIGOSA was the one who kept Hertzberg out of the runoff -- NOT Walter Moore. Hertzberg had one runoff spot sewn up, before bitter, vindictive ADV jumped in late to settle an old score (and break his MAIN 2003 campaign promise).

Read the media endorsements, people... Hertzberg would have been showered with praise in a two-way with Hahn -- ADV's nods are weak and perfunctory, at best.

Without ADV in the primary, and with Parks pulling major African American percentages away from Hahn, Hertzberg had a VERY good chance of squeeking over the 50 percent mark in the PRIMARY, had ADV not been COMPELLED to give L.A. a "choice" against Hahn.

HUH, Hertzberg, Parks, and even Alarcon weren't "choices against Hahn!

This thing COULD have been over back in MARCH if not for ADV's massive bruised ego, thin skin, and LEGENDARY vengeful nature.

Read the Times profile on the campaign hacks -- even ADV's handlers are in this to SETTLE A SCORE! They probably would have worked for free this time (BAD negotiating ADV... thought you were the labor negotiating whiz?)

SCREW you rationale thought chips back into the motherboards, people. If your HATE Hahn, you should be MOST pissed at ADV.

He broke it up, and now HE'S going to lose AGAIN, and put Hahn back in.

May 13, 2005 11:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The chance of Hahn winning this thing is zero. There is absolutely no scenario in which Hahn can overcome the massive amount he trails Antonio (especially with the inept team that he has in place). You can type, type, type all you want to try to put on a good show, but this thing is over, and has been over for months. Hahn has no one but himself to blame. If he would have demonstrated some leadership during the past four years he would be breezing to re-election, but he didn't. He is too lazy and too stupid to be Mayor. Game over, folks.

May 13, 2005 11:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good point, but the logic behind the original post heading here is even more disturbed than that. If you read it through -- they're bashing a GOP operative for working for the less liberal of the two democratic candidates, but then implying somehow that ANOTHER Republican -- Moore -- should have for SOME reason, stepped out of the way of a THIRD liberal Democrat, Hertzberg (in the primary), so that the runoff would have been between the two MORE liberal democrats in the race.

And this would have benefitted Moore and the Republicans how? Moore said DURING the primary that is he had to pick one of the challengers to support/benefit it would have actually been Parks.

Now he supports Hahn (or did?), and now he's an independent. So it's all moot point.

Even in a supposedly non-partisan race, you really can't be faulting a GOP player for staying in and possibly having some small part in bumping out the Dem you happen to like best.

That's not his job...

That's just ALL bass-ackwards. The democrats conniving together to give another one of their ilk a better shot makes some sense, but when you jump across party lines to suggest that someone "screwed" your guy's chances. Sorry, nothing in that makes sense.

May 13, 2005 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I knew I recognized the first part of this quote (poster at 11:17 a.m.):

The chance of Hahn winning this thing is zero. There is absolutely no scenario in which Hahn can overcome the massive amount he trails Antonio (especially with the inept team that he has in place). You can type, type, type all you want to try to put on a good show, but this thing is over, and has been over for months..."

This is from Parke Skelton's pep talk to ADV the night before the final vote in 2001.

Thanks for reviving it (for the record).

OH, and thanks for giving us "permission" to "type, type, type..." you socialist control freak. If ADV pulls out of his traditional tailspin in time, this time, will we be needing to get "free speech" permits at City Hall in the future when we want to express opinions?

(Shhh, the Hall has ears!)

May 13, 2005 11:22 AM  

Blogger Republican against ADV said:

Bye, bye Walter Moore. I'd like to say it's been a pleasure, but -- hell, we never really "knew ye."

May 13, 2005 11:24 AM  

Blogger Republican against ADV said:

(OH, but I'm guessing as a "true" Republican, that the GOP4AV poster here probably knows you well?)

Must have voted for you in the primary, if he's a REAL Republican -- or were you what drove him off the edge to support ADV?

May 13, 2005 11:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio sure is looking worried these days. Where's that spark? Hahn is joking, answering the hard question with confidence. Antonio is still stumbling, hesitant, doesn't know how to think on his own two feet. Maybe he should use those ear pieces like Bush did with Kerry.

May 13, 2005 11:26 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I see we have some cutting and pasting going on here, so let me do some of my own:

"Credit the mayor also with working to hold the city together when San Fernando Valley leaders were advocating secession. "

We do credit the Mayor. And we will remember. People in the Valley hate being part of LA so much they don't even tell their out of town relatives and friends they live in LA!

May 13, 2005 11:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What is Mayor Hahn going to tell the loser all male audience of ESPN radio, most of whom don't vote?

That he likes Anna Kournikova's tits?

I doubt that, I understand he doesn't like any tits.

May 13, 2005 11:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA Weekly was asking the same thing -- their endorsement was "on the chance" that he might regain his spark, we endorse him...

sort of...


But, hey, if you really busy May 17, don't get all worked up about it and like DRIVE to the polls.

May 13, 2005 11:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam you Valley people are fools if you blame our homosexual mayor for losing your stupid secession drive.

May 13, 2005 11:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ESPN Radio -- are you kidding? More registered, undecided voters than ADV's paid hack callers can reach on the phone in ANY 25-hour day -- that's for sure.

MALES DON'T VOTE? What the hell kind of nerd hack junior college Poli Sci program did you get an pass/fail grade in?

DAMN, these ADV-lovers are stupid -- thinking with their moist vaginas again!!!

May 13, 2005 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GOOD, OUT Jimmy as a GAY boy... ANOTHER (supposedly) ADV core group comes running full bore AWAY from Villaraigosa!

PLEASE spread that rumor! PLEASE!!!

May 13, 2005 11:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, just because you got screwed in your passion to be on the SFV-free state city council be an effective mayor holding his city together does NOT mean you speak for the whole Valley (where, by the way, Hahn's poll numbers have been rising RAPIDLY since the Kerry-Loser endorsement.


May 13, 2005 11:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV staff is sending their stupid fundraising emails again, they need more money...I don't have any more money, I already gave you guys all of my extra money!!!!

May 13, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whatever Republican for AV. I volunteer at the office for AV and I don't know anyone that goes by Republican for AV, your a liar.

May 13, 2005 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Inmate Number 4582345"
Your reading the name wrong, just like Antonio Gonzalez did with that voter. THe inmate number is for ANTONIO "MIAMI" VILLARAIGOSA.

May 13, 2005 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Got that right 11:41 a.m. When I talk about how crappy Tony V. has treated CD14, his groupies jump in and say "but Tony has big support there, you're just a 'hater.'"

So now that The Valley is picking up steam again for Hahn, that must make Mayor Sam just a "hater" --too, another bitter odd-man-out, when most are now saying "all's forgiven, Jimmy."

Better just "get over it" -- Hahn's going to win, again.

ADV is panicking, while his people are posing for Times profiles and courting their next assignmnents, and he's remembering that they told him not to worry LAST time, too.

May 13, 2005 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This just in... Hahn paid GOP; ADV has been paying totally incompetent morons to runs his field offices for four years.

Hahn's campaign (not MY money) is out $20K. The city (and I) are out millions in wasted salaries, energy, and lost opportunities.

Maybe next time he SHOULD pay some Republicans to work for him.

It could NOT be ANY fucking worse!!!

May 13, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The blogger was right. ESPN's core demographic is 18-35 year old males most of whom don't live in the city of LA. Hardly a source of votes for Hahn, Antonio or anyoe.

May 13, 2005 11:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you want to find out about ADV's affair, you can call

Hi! I’m Jennie Carreon-Lacey, one of the Field Coordinators for the Villaraigosa for Mayor campaign. I just wanted to share with you a brief report on our exciting grassroots mobilization summit from this past weekend.

Eastside Campaign Headquarters 1868 East 1st Street
corner of 1st and State
Call (323) 262-1724

May 13, 2005 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mark Coogan just blasted Antonio's big lie on the child abuse bill. That's probably the reason Antonio canceled his press conf. Reporters were given documents that showed Antonio's voting record on AB2258 and he's been saying he voted the following week on a better bill. WELL GUESS WHAT???? HE DIDN'T HE LIED AND THE REPORTERS HAD THE DOCUMENTS TO PROVE IT. Shame shame on you. Hahn was telling the truth. Antonio is nothing more than a common criminal off the street wearing a suit.

May 13, 2005 12:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


The Rebel

At 49, Skelton is not as woolly as he was when his shoulder-length hair and a full beard spooked at least one client.

"I looked like Peter Kropotkin," he said with a laugh, referring to the Russian anarchist of the turn of the 20th century.

He spends his free time listening to Appalachian bluegrass music and rereading Icelandic sagas. Epic struggles are the kinds of plots he relishes. "Relatively uncontested reelection work doesn't interest me," Skelton said. "I need the warp and woof of a really interesting campaign I could lose."

He didn't always love that. There were periods when he went through the final couple of weeks of a campaign with a stomachache. In 1991, as he stood poised to ascend to the bigger political races, Skelton lost three races by a combined total of fewer than 1,000 votes.

"I was catatonic," he said. "I didn't get off my couch for a week." Fortunately, his girlfriend, Alison Morgan, didn't think he was a loser. He and Morgan, a ballet dancer and actress turned political fundraiser, eventually married and now have two children.

Over time, he said, he realized he could lose a race and still live — not to mention get another job. "I love L.A. politics — more than anything else I do," Skelton said.

May 13, 2005 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio's tv ads are showing what a flip flopper he is and that he blatantly lies. He's sounding like a crybaby "Hahn attacked me the last time"( NO HAHN TOLD THE TRUTH.) Then ADV comes out with another stupid tv ad misleading the public to make them believe police officers are supporting him when they're FAKE cops. Their actors. Then he has the Blair Witch ad. He has stated that the mayor has no control on LAUSD then he shows an ad lying saying Mayor Hahn has missed board meetings. People are now questioning his flip flopping and wondering if he's LYING about and misleading with these ads it will only get worst if he wins.

May 13, 2005 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Skelton works with his partners out of a stark Pasadena loft decorated with 1950s Mexican art posters. He stays in touch with Villaraigosa's team via conference calls. He avoids actual campaign events, but made an exception to take his 5-year-old son to the Van Nuys event where former presidential candidate Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) endorsed Villaraigosa.

"I would love to be an elected officeholder," Skelton said. He just doesn't want to be a candidate. "I can't imagine sitting down for five hours and calling people for money."

Skelton won't disclose how much money he will earn in this campaign, but city Ethics Commission records indicate his consulting company — SG&A — has been paid $140,000 through the end of April.

Skelton was a quarter of an academic year away from his bachelor's degree in philosophy at UCLA when he organized a successful campaign to pass a rent-control initiative in Santa Monica. After he won, he was launched. His trademark has become clever direct mail, and hoisting opponents on their own petards.

When Rep. Adam Schiff, the Democrat representing the 29th Congressional District, ran in 1996 for state Assembly against Paula Boland, Skelton made a collage of Boland's attack mail and put it on Schiff's own mailer. "It asked, what do we know about Paula Boland?" Schiff recalled. "And then it said, 'Paula Boland obviously doesn't like Adam Schiff very much.' " The mailer proceeded to dissect Boland.

"Voters don't take this as deadly serious as we do," Skelton said. "They aren't disposed to believe attacks on a campaign. They need to know you're responding to them and that you don't think it's true…. But humor helps deflect it."

May 13, 2005 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Skelton, who guided Villaraigosa's unsuccessful 2001 campaign for mayor, said he never expected to win four years ago. "We couldn't get more than 20% of the African American vote," Skelton said. "And in making the decision to run this time, my mantra was: Can we get 40% of the black vote? If we can't, we shouldn't run."

Skelton knows the knock on him is that, four years ago, Villaraigosa didn't counter Hahn's attacks harder and faster.

This time, Skelton wasted no time striking back at a negative Hahn ad in the primary campaign.

"We wanted to send a message in the primary that we were not going to let any hit go unchallenged," he said.

The negative battle has been dialed up this week as Hahn tries to close an 11-point gap in a Los Angeles Times poll.

"I think we're prepared for any possibility," Skelton said. "Within an hour of Hahn going negative, we're ready to respond."

The Gambler

Villaraigosa is ready to counterattack largely because he has Ace Smith. A pioneer in the field of opposition research, Smith has burrowed deeply through records for information — often dirt — on opponents and his own clients.

Smith's speed-reading skill — he can inhale a 400-page book on a cross-country flight — helps.

"I probably personally know their records better than either of them do," he said while sitting in a restaurant not far from the office space he rents in Little Tokyo. Over a lunch of udon noodle soup — which he eats sparingly — he is courtly, his words measured, his steely blue eyes intense.

On the telephone or in e-mails, it's a different story. He'll deluge editors and reporters with the tidbits that skewer and deflate his opponent's statement du jour.

"Ace is very good at the rapid response," said former Assemblyman Richard Katz, who has been helping Villaraigosa on the campaign trail, and even played the role of Hahn in Villaraigosa's debate prep.

"When Hahn first started saying, 'Antonio, we want to see your e-mail,' Ace was right there saying, 'See our e-mails? We haven't seen your appointment book that you're required to release.' It allowed the candidate to be above the fray."

When Villaraigosa attacks, some see the hand of Smith at work. The campaign manager said his client is markedly more aggressive than he was four years ago. "One of the fundamental rules of politics is if someone is attacking you, you have to respond," Smith said. "If you sit there and take it, you'll lose."

May 13, 2005 12:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, you're right Antonio is aggressive right off the streets. He's a typical gangster thug. City Council just got blasted for Antonio, Weiss, Zine missing yet another meeting. John Walsh went off on them for being absent because they only have to attend 3 meetings. He spoke for a long time stating that they are elected officials that have a duty to get business done first.

Gee, Antonio has missed two weeks of city council meetings. Is the rumor that is running rampant citywide that he's actually running for Governor and this is yet another stepping stone?

May 13, 2005 12:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Missing was Parke Skelton, Villaraigosa's lead strategist. But that was nothing new: The consultant known for his liberal ideology and tangle of curly hair stays behind the scenes. He was holed up in his Pasadena office, coloring with his 2-year-old daughter, Zora, before wading through dozens of phone messages.

May 13, 2005 12:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, 12:05 p.m. Noni...

Is that what Antonio says to her (in light of her name), when he gets an urgent phone call -- a la Clinton/Monica/the UN -- "It's just a district business phone-call, Jenny, CARRY-ON!"

May 13, 2005 12:25 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

It's Friday, I'm tired, and I don't have an earpiece tuned into the campaign consultants like some of you do here -- so it took awhile to put all the pieces together (plus, I'm NOT really a conspracy theorist). However, when I got to the very tail end of newspaper coverage of yesterday's candidate activities -- it ALL made sense.

Yesterday this blog posts a thread out of the blue asking "do neighborhood councils suck?" -- with a nasty letter from an angry stakeholder. A nice diversion unrelated to the mayoral campaign, right?

And then, in both L.A. dailies -- it says in black-and-white this a.m.: "Hahn yesterday received endorsements from several (Poster's note: MORE) neighborhood council presidents." And, it's been noted here many times that Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa has literally NO NC president support, even in his OWN district -- among the community leaders that should be working with him and his staff most often.


I suppose the only real question is: Was this just some early research from the blog owners to get some dirt to discredit NCs in general (or maybe on the specific ones endorsing Hahn) -- in case that endorsement was picked up as something significant. Or, was this a specific "hot" assignment phoned in by ADV®'s campaign political insultants?

These things REALLY aren't ever coincidences, are they" No mention of NCs in months, then BANGO, same day: "what do you think about neighborhood councils, bloggers?" Give us ammo!

May 13, 2005 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sacramento we've always posted that this site is run by MEAT, Parke, Ace. They can't stand that we post facts on the issues against their lover boy. By the end of the day we will have more negative articles posted. DISTRATION.

Hey, reporter just stated looking into those fake cops in ADV's ad is worth research. Go for it!!!

May 13, 2005 12:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NC'S are essential to the community as the voice of the people. The only problem I have is when politicians such as Villaraigosa use these NC's to push their agenda. For example, in El Sereno, you have Alvin Parra as an interim President, and in downtown you have Meruelo deeply seeded in that council, those are two that I know of and I'm not even involved in them personally. Imagine those of you that are involved in these NC's, you must know more rats that are implanted in these NC's to push, work, and promote inhouse political agendas. I'm only speaking of these two, I have no idea of the others. If the NC's maintain a their own identity, they would be effective in promoting community concerns and comments. Although, the NC's board members should be barred from running for office and donating to politicians. The NC's need to have more community involvement. Last time I went to vote, there was a flyer for a community meeting. I asked the lady, "What happens at these things?" She said, "Why, your not going to go anyway." What crap. She is absolutely right though, if these groups do not fight for more community involvement, we really won't be interested in attending. Many of us think that the NC in El Sereno is run by Villaragosa thugs. I have heard good things from the Eagle Rock and Boyle Heights NC's...

May 13, 2005 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Re: ESPN: "...18-35 year old males most of whom don't live in the city of LA."

Type, type, type... spin, spin, spin... you can't "figure" your way out of this one. Your "spin" has become a tailspin and Tony's GOING DOWN FAST.

A good-sized radio station that PLAYS in L.A. with SPORTS information and it does NOT reach L.A. voters? Do 18-35-year olds NEVER vote.

That may be there main demo, but a sports station ALSO reaches 35+ which vote MORE.

Get your head out of your ass... sour grapes is ONE thing, and ADV-lovers are ALL delusional, but spinning just to make YOURSELF believe all is well is just forestalling the inevitable slap in the face from reality next week.

And HEY, 72 percent of voters STAYED home last time... This is PRIME REAL ESTATE. Keep hounding the 30 percent who will probably vote and POUNCE on the ones that seldom do with NEW "scary" information about the little dictator headed their way it they DON'T re-elect Hahn.

(Hahn's people WHIPPED your asses 4 years ago, and are gaining fast. DO you think they would be wasting his time if this was NOT fertile ground???)

ADV's people have him on NPR radio, preaching to the liberal leftie choir and talking to HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS -- AVERAGE AGE 16-17, and where most if the listeners have already voted absentee for him.

BAD choices, same team as 2001.

Same result.

May 13, 2005 12:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Call the LAPD public information officers. The cops used in AV's ads are FAKE.

May 13, 2005 12:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm glad Mr. Villar did not have the press conference yesterday, I heard that lady showed up too. This would have been a mess.

May 13, 2005 12:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Eagle Rock NC has it's own core of ADV toadies but has had so many resignations (mostly from people fed up with contending with that group), that they barely function or have a quorum.

ADV's field deputy over that area was seen screaming at the NC president there -- outside a meeting a few weeks back -- over some problem he had with the way she was running the meeting. AND THEN, just a few days later SHE resigned (she was a Hertzberg endorser, and about the 3rd or 4th president to resign this board year).

May 13, 2005 12:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous Anon,

This is a red flag. Isn't there an ethics department that oversees the treatment of NC's by politicians and their staff? It sounds as if the NC president was being bullied, possibly because of the Hertzberg endorsemnt. How sad, in this day and age, the NC's experiences sound as if they are bullied by commies. Villaraigosa's office is full of this mentality, they try to suppress free speech. This is not democracy, people should wake up.

May 13, 2005 12:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The difference between 2005 and 2001 is that people now see just how lazy and stupid Hahn is. He fooled us in 2001, he will not fool us again.

May 13, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH, and someone mentioned the Times coverage. They screwed up the endorsement story and said the "neighoborhood councils" endorsed Hahn.

The councils can't, but their officers can, as private citizens -- and most NC presidents who have endorsed are in Hahn's column.

They've worked with him, they know he's attentive, deals with their issues, and puts a lot of stock into using their networks to reach communities. He kept their budgets intact, when others got squeezed -- and not to pander to them (since "they" can't endorse...)

What do you expect, when Times first profiled ADV the writer said he "won the general election" in 2001 -- not the primary.

Does anyone there understand city government, at all?

May 13, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The difference between 2005 and 2003 is that people now see just how INSINCERE and INEFFECTIVE Villaraigosa is. He fooled most of the people in CD14 in 2003, but his inability to get ANYTHING done is being mentioned in every news account now -- the fooling stops now.

May 13, 2005 12:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have gathered some research of the Southwest Voter registration. This is what I have so far. I have spoken to over 100 people, usually at the Lincoln Hts. Park baseball games, weekday and weekends. I have gathered from this 62 people that will go on record commenting about the Southwest voter registration and what they witnessed or experienced. I have the names, addresses, phone numbers, and their comment, plus their signatures. Can someone please tell me, where do I send this data to and to who's attention. Many of the comments are negative about the voter registration, some comments are in Spanish. BTW, certain persons felt compelled to comment about the councilman and their disgust, also when Gloria Molina showed up, there is so much negative experience, but I wrote everything, and they signed after the comments. I video taped 11 people on one day, the rest are written comments.

May 13, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just an fyi, no one cares about your or your fraudulent "research." Get a life.

May 13, 2005 1:00 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Here's an account of the latest NC council president's resignation in CD14, as another poster mentioned. I do know that she did not endorse ADV® for the primary. I can't verify the run-in she supposedly had with his field staff, although I've heard these stories many times over the past two years -- most of them happening since he declared for mayor.

I do know they were having trouble holding meetings, and at one of the last one's this person presided over, they barely had the 7-8 present to convene (Their full board was originally 20-25 people, I believe).


Council President Resigns
by Tom Topping (Boulevard Sentinel)

Anita Hultman, President of the Eagle Rock Neighborhood Council resigned her position last week. In a letter of resignation dated March 20th, submitted to the board by e-mail on the 28th, she stated that a "the lack of responsibility and cooperation shown by many board members and stakeholders is an inaccurate reflection of me, as a leader and as a human being." She wrote, "this last week was enough," and relinquished all her duties and responsibilities to Vice President Michael Nogueira.
This tops off a year where about half of the council members elected last year have given up and walked away. Officially, the majority of them resigned for personal reasons. However, any reasonable observer could see the friction of the various personalities during the year's meetings. This, combined with the fact that very little was getting accomplished, would lead most anyone to reject wasting their precious time for such a dysfunctional community group.
Anita said that she would not be participating with the Eagle Rock Council again, unless it was on behalf of the Collaborative (Eagle Rock Beautiful), an organization she feels if worth putting her effort into. She saw that people in the Collaborative were actually doing the things that she thought she would be doing in the Neighborhood Council. "In the Collaborative, we're all equal," she said.
Her proudest accomplishment is the mural on North Figueroa St. Her biggest challenge was working with the L.A. City government which she described as "difficult." She said "I'm happy with the decision I made," and has felt a great sense of relief ever since.
Does Anita have advice for others who might consider participating in the Neighborhood Council? "If you have the tenacity for it, it's good," she said. And wished anyone who might participate, "Good Luck!" Finally, to quell speculation that had been circulating that the strain of the Neighborhood Council had pushed her marriage to the brink of failure, and that she and her husband were now separated, she said, "I've been house sitting."
Michael Nogueira, 5 time Eagle Rock Chamber of Commerce President will have his plate full, discharging the duties of the remainder of the term of Eagle Rock Neighborhood Council President. He said he will accept those duties and responsibilities, and plans to expedite the elections, delayed two months now, and pay the many vendors that have done business with the council, who remain unpaid, some still waiting from last year.
Jessica Wethington said of Anita's resignation, "It's been coming for a long time, she's a full time student. Her grades were slipping and she had to choose. I think she made the right choice for her." (Anita could not be reached to confirm or deny that). Jessica just kept talking about the resignation and said, "I know who she would point fingers at, but I'm not going to say. There would definitely be fingers pointed in every direction." She went on to comment that "It's a small board now and a lot of work to be done without any leader."
Although it is clear that Mr. Nogueira is now the council president, effective on Anita's resignation, Jessica seemed unwilling to accept that. She mentioned that she was waiting to be told by D.O.N.E. (Los Angeles Department of Neighborhood Empowerment) of his authority, or at least to receive communication from him that he was accepting the position.
Either way, it sounds like the difficulties are far from over for the Eagle Rock Neighborhood Council, with or without any finger pointing.

May 13, 2005 1:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I should send the paper to you previous anon and you can call each of these people and tell them they are frauds, this is the exact same attitude they had to deal with at Southwest voter reps during the drive. Give me your fax, and I will send it to you, no one here is hiding any of this data, just AV is hiding from the community and the truth.

May 13, 2005 1:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Researcher, "get a life" is ADV-lover slang for "don't burst my bubble... Tony is dreamy and all other facts don't matter."

These groupies select a mayoral candidate like they're playing that old "chick" board game "Mystery Date."

May 13, 2005 1:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 1:00 posted

"Just an fyi, no one cares about your or your fraudulent "research." Get a life."

Attention anon that is concerned about my life:

I should send the paper to you previous anon and you can call each of these people and tell them they are frauds, this is the exact same attitude they had to deal with at Southwest voter reps during the drive. Give me your fax, and I will send it to you, no one here is hiding any of this data, just AV is hiding from the community and the truth.

May 13, 2005 1:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you give that ADV lover the list they may harrass the people. ADV seeks revenge on anyone.

May 13, 2005 1:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony Villar is having another cleanup of some kind, read on.

"Villaraigosa's schedule called 'sanitized'
Councilman's work list excludes out-of-town fund-raising events, Hahn's adviser points out.
By David Zahniser
Copley News Service"

Now Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa is the one under fire for releasing an updated schedule from the past two months that has almost no mention of his campaign activities.


May 13, 2005 1:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa spokesman Joe Ramallo defended the councilman's decision to omit his campaign activities in the latest schedule, saying state law does not require him to disclose such information.

Joe Ramallo
For four years he served as Asst. Director of Policy for Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas

According to the Democratic official in Washington, Gore is said to be disheartened by Penelas' actions. "The vice president likes Alex and has spent a lot of time with him," says this source. "I think he is more hurt than shocked by the way Alex has distanced himself. When people make comments critical of Alex in front of the vice president, he doesn't say anything. He just looks hurt."

May 13, 2005 1:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Posted on blog-city-halls blog:

Ultimatum from CA State Lands to the Hahns

On Wednesday, May 11th, EAA received a copy of a letter dated May 6, 2005 , (reprinted below) addressed to Port of LA Commission President Tonsich regarding some plum projects Mayor Hahn and his sister have been working furiously to deliver to their own community in San Pedro. In this letter, the State Lands Commission advised Nick Tonsich in no uncertain terms that POLA’s approval and intention to move forward on the “welcome park” and “charter high school” does not comply with the trust agreement in effect between the State of California and the City of Los Angeles . State Lands respectfully advised the Commission to not only stop work on both projects forthwith, but also to sell the property already purchased for this “welcome park”. The trust that allows the City of Los Angeles to operate the Port of Los Angeles requires the profits from this Port be used either to directly mitigate the effects of operating the Port in the area of the Port or that they be used for the welfare of the State in general, not a specific community. Hahn cannot claim ignorance of this issue because, as City Attorney, he was involved in a previous instance of violation of this trust while Riordan was Mayor and he knows that this resulted in City taxpayers having to repay 10’s of millions of dollars to the Port for a similar infraction.

We wonder why this information has not been distributed publicly even though it is in the hands of the Harbor Commission as well as top management at the Port.

Is the ugly spector of Hahn politics rearing its ugly head again?

Does the Mayor want to wait until after next Tuesday’s election to let his own district know that he has apparently once again bungled the projects he and his sister have pledged to their neighbors and friends?

Or, even more cynically, have Hahn and his little sister decided that since the lawsuit that would result from these actions wouldn’t be settled until after the ends of their terms, they couldn’t care less if taxpayers all over the city were then forced to pay for the projects that they’ve placed in the neighborhoods where they live?

What does this say about how serious the Mayor is in his commission to serve ALL of the citizens of Los Angeles as opposed to serving himself and the neighborhood he lives in?

May 13, 2005 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Gore released a statement calling Penelas "the single most treacherous and dishonest person I dealt with during the campaign anywhere in America."

May 13, 2005 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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May 13, 2005 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe Ramallo wakes up Villaraigosa from a power nap to prep him for a phone interview. Villaraigosa takes the phone, has a lively chat with the interviewer, tosses the phone to Ramallo and falls back to sleep. Ramallo says, “I swear, he could do interviews in his sleep…!”

May 13, 2005 1:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When asked about his own attendance at the education committee meetings, Villaraigosa said "I've tried to make as many of the meetings as possible and will continue to do that."

Joe Ramallo, a spokesman for Villaraigosa, said major issues involving governance of the L.A. schools have not gone through the committee.

May 13, 2005 1:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Asked if Anderson was a co-host, Villaraigosa said: "He may have been, yes." Hours later, Villaraigosa spokesman Joe Ramallo corrected that statement, saying Anderson was only a guest.

May 13, 2005 1:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is a few days old, but VERY telling about the reliability of the L.A. Times latest poll:


Basically it shows that nearly one out of every 10 voters favoring EITHER mayoral candidate (identical numbers for Hahn or ADV), consider corruption an ASSET, not a liability.

Supposedly this poll has a margin of error of only about 4 percent, but this seems to strongly suggest their numbers are off WAY more than that, or else quite a few people questioned were very confused or intentionally trying to jerk the poll off its axis for fun or profit.

Most likely it means the MOE is several times what they claim...

May 13, 2005 1:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone seems to like the little math problems they keep posting -- A+B=C, Here's an equation that defines the candidate very well.

So the Breeze reports that ADV wiped his calendars clean of campaign activities. Campaign confirms, saying they don't have to show that stuff.

Earlier, the Times reports on these same calendars and says ADV's show that he spent nearly all his time - for most of the past year - on campaign activities (while getting paid $140K to be a full time councilmember -- but that's another equation). Note, though that the Times fails to mention there are no specifics about these campaign activities (representing most of his released information) -- an omission that adds proof to the argument the Times is going easier on ADV (also another "equation").

ADV then beats Hahn up for not releasing his calendars, so he does -- and Times reports that unline ADV, he has "balanced" his time between city work and campaign.

But, if ADV spent almost ALL of his time campaigning, and purged those specifics, then WHAT information exactly was he actually releasing? Absolutely nothing -- nearly blank calendars, with just placeholders for campaign time.

Yet another bogus campaign trick to try and embarrass the other guy, without ever really being forthcoming himself -- when what SHOULD have been an embarrassment -- to ADV, was the fact that he was stealing city money every time he deposited his paycheck. AND, the information ADV his was the VERY same kind of details

EQ: Something (ADV's calendars) - nearly everything (his campaign time) = almost nothing (delivery on promises).

The more "open" and forthcoming this guy claims to be the more deceitful he actually is -- more weasel words and equivocations from this "all show" talker who has accomplished nothing in two full years.

"I voted against it, but then voted for it."

"I promised not to do that, but was 'compelled' to break that promise."

"I support public education but avoid using it myself. My opponent runs from educational issues, but entrusts his family to LAUSD."

"I support business development in Los Angeles, but I spend MY money elsewhere."

"I'm tough on crime, but not on criminals."

"My opponent is MIA, but I missed more council and committee meetings than any of my peers."

"My opponent is invisible, but I haven't been seen at a neighborhood council in my district in two years."

"My opponent is under investigation, but I wipe clean from my calendars the information investigators are most likely to want to see."

Enough -- there is no cure on the market for ADV's allergic reaction to the truth!

Hahn is already a better option to never being told the truth, and we can do even better in four years.

May 13, 2005 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Breaking news, after Miguel's Saturday burial:

One of the gazillion L.A. Times reporters working the Mayor's race got a confirmation from a union leader that she witnessed a Hahn operative actually asking Charles Lester for permission to say "it was Miguel's wish that Latinos vote for Hahn."


There was one other witness, a minister.

Charles Lester refuses to talk about it. But others are talking, including witnesses.

This is going to look so bad for Hahn.

How disgusting! A leader like Miguel passes, and all he can think about is how to use his death to benefit politically.

May 13, 2005 3:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous poster,

This is a FABRICATED STORY pushed by ACE and SKELTON, it's not true. The desperation levels at the ADV camp are disgusting.

May 13, 2005 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

REAL capitalists don't BLOG, apparently. . .

Los Angeles Business Journal Poll

How often do you read blogs?

Occasionally (1-2 times a week) 10%
17 votes

Regularly (5-8 times) 10%
17 votes

Frequently (10-15 times) 15%
27 votes

Almost never 23%
40 votes

Never 43%
75 votes

*From 4/25/2005 to 5/10/2005.
Total votes:176


May 13, 2005 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who's breaking the news, ACE? He is a pathological master that teachers his young ones. Do you teach your kids to lie too Skelton, since you are at par with Ace.

May 13, 2005 3:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How silly, why would they need a letter anyway?

The endorsements are already there, the work is ongoing, the unions are at full steam for Hahn's campaign and have spent a fortune.

No one in Hahn's campaign would be that stupid to ask -- now ADV's FIELD staff would be that stupid - but they would ask the WRONG person - using e-mail - and the message would bounce - and then they would dial the wrong phone number to follow up - and then they would go home early and think about it some more.

May 13, 2005 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:47 Anon
"Breaking news, after..."

If you are pushing this story and I find out you are from the Villaraigosa staff, we will make sure Hahn wins on Tuesday. I was neutral, but this is upsetting when people make up this kind of story.

XXrelatives of M.C.

May 13, 2005 3:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did SOMEONE says the magic words.. give me a P, give me an A, give me a TH-sound!

Because... Antonio Villaraigosa is a pathological liar who can't be trusted to do anything he says.

Someone prove me wrong -- and because time is short, let's "fire sale" this, make it easier. Someone give me just THREE examples of published, documented campaign promises ADV made in 2003 to his district that he HAS kept in the past two years. Has to be something he put on his mailers, or delivered in stump speeches that were general enough in nature to affect the district (not just one community group or constituent).

If they're legit -- I'll end this story myself... End of story!

May 13, 2005 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I heard about this as well.

Initials of two the witnesses: JJ and YW. One of them is a Hahn supporter who got trapped into acknowledging the conversation.

May 13, 2005 4:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:




May 13, 2005 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WELL, I'm sure with that kind of confirmation the LAT will rush right out on the QT and print this ASAP and STAT, OK?


May 13, 2005 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK, OK, I will cancel the press conference.

Ace of Hearts.

May 13, 2005 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NAH, that picture was in the print edition, too.

ADV's not on Sister City, he's looking at the help screen.

"It says push any key. . . which one is the "Any" key?"

May 13, 2005 4:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He also doesn't like pushing the mouse around -- as a RAT himself, it's a professional courtesy!

May 13, 2005 4:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Damn, where did I put the shortcut to my digital Little Black Book!"

May 13, 2005 4:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parke Skelton looks latin, or am I just a bit blind.

May 13, 2005 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Damn, Ace -- I'm on Hahn's Wesbite and there are more community leaders from CD14 endorsing him than on mine. Wait there aren't ANY on my site from the Eastside?"

May 13, 2005 4:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa says, "Look! They posted Jennie's name again..."

May 13, 2005 4:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Nathan that skinny dorky looking dude on the left, has to be.

May 13, 2005 4:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nah, Parke's original last name was SkeletonsinAntoniosCloset, but it was shortened at Ellis Island.

Right before the operation where his ethics were removed.

May 13, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It looks like Nathan shit in his pants after the Floridagate.

May 13, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So which Hahn operative was at the hospital on Friday?

The rumor of a press conference is BS. The ADV camp wouldn't pursue this, because it reinforces that Miguel was with Hahn.

Still want to know which Hahn junky was at the hospital?

May 13, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony V. was shortened at Ellis Island, too. Not his name -- that got longer.

May 13, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

On Parke Skelton's pic they have a small print of him saying:

"Parke Skelton, a consultant to Villaraigosa, likes rereading Icelandic sagas, whose epic struggles he relishes. “Relatively uncontested reelection work doesn’t interest me,” he says."


May 13, 2005 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good point 4:10 p.m. -- if they all, collectively, had half a brain they wouldn't want to be reminding people last weekend, AFTER all the mailings have dwindled that the unions are behind Hahn.

Sort of a "do this in remembrance of me" double whammy, post funeral.

May 13, 2005 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 4:10

What press conference are you talking about which you state is BS?

May 13, 2005 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ace looks like King Neptune

May 13, 2005 4:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It is a total lie that Hahn had anyone at the hospital after Miguel passed. Only the Mayor, and he provided support with dignity.

This story has no dignity.

May 13, 2005 4:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 14:

Press conference about Hahn staff request at hospital.

May 13, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey numbnuts,

nobody said press conference. The Times already has the story, and with the way they've been trashing Hahn they will run with it. It's called breaking news.

May 13, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't believe this is all they have to talk about 3-4 days before the race. I think some previous poster was right -- the hacks all agreed to this so they could get some work for the next election cycle, somewhere.

"I like to stay behind the scenes... " so please write 1200 works on my likes and dislikes, what I eat, where I gamble, and my children's names and ages.

With all the vitriol on both sides, how smart is this stuff?

I've been saying for weeks that ADV's hacks are the MOST out of touch with real people and that's what killed them last time. Re-read their descriptions... one has his head in medieval literature, and the other is up to his eyeballs in legislative mumbo jumbo from campaigns past. Sixties hippies and number-crunching wonks.


May 13, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is no way the Hahn campaign would be so foolish to make such a request. I'm sure they weren't even at the hospital.

May 13, 2005 4:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This story is a fabrication of AV consultants, desperate people. Only they could lie in this manner and not respect a persons death. AV you lost my vote right now!

May 13, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was at the hospital.

I saw Hahn, but he was not staffed at the time.

May 13, 2005 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well if this little Flackery leak is anything like the last dozen "smears" ADV's people have been trying to stop his downhill slide with, it will end up being some 3rd string volunteer from Hahn's Valley office that no one on the campaign inner circle will ever have met.

But the ADV-lovers will scream... HAHN SHOULD HAVE KNOWN! He's responsible.


If this was a real story, do you think they'd be padding the Times coverage with personality profiles about aged hacks and daily blow-by-blow recaps of ads people are already bored with?

May 13, 2005 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wrong, wrong. Hahn came to the hospital alone, but he did have staff there.

May 13, 2005 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, and this is part of the silly spin... every anonymous blogger here is going to say "I was there... I was in the room... I fluffed his pillow befor he died"

More BS!

May 13, 2005 4:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"The Invisible Mayor's Staff"?

May 13, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Face it folks -- if this was true it would have already been posted on LAObserved or Boi, not here first. Sister City's been covering news leaks like a weekly throwaway paper.

May 13, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, and ADV brought representatives from all 80 of his INVISIBLE NEIGHBOHOOD WATCHES.


May 13, 2005 4:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does anybody know which Hahn hack was there at the hospital?

May 13, 2005 4:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rev. Lou Sheldon was there on Hahn's behalf, along with some guys named Donald and Jesus. (That's GEE-Zuss, not Hay-Seuss")

May 13, 2005 4:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And Hahn was given copies of the next "high level indictments" at the hospital!

May 13, 2005 4:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And proof of ADV's 81 percent approval rating in his district!

May 13, 2005 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV Lovers are in major desperation mode making up anything and everything quick. They our losing ground every day and their worried sick. STORY IS A TOTAL LIE. Just like ADV's tv ads. Everyone citywide are laughing at the FAKE COPS. They don't even have real badges and its backfiring on ADV. Ace, Parke, MEAT are desperately trying to dig up dirt. Voters are being reminded of the Vignali letter cause media and print are stating it every day, ADV supports gangs, child abusers, drug dealers. People DON'T FORGET. Say what you want but finally the truth is coming around full circle and Hahn is picking up major speed

May 13, 2005 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And was told the secret location where Jimmy Hoffa is buried!

May 13, 2005 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And actual photos of the Loch Ness Monster!

May 13, 2005 4:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Those rent-a-cops have their own union, too, you know. Maybe THEIR union is about to endorse ADV -- because under an Antonio Mayoralty, the rich folks are going to be buying their OWN cops left and right-wing.

They always parse in those ads -- they don't say LA police do they?

Maybe those are Miami cops?

May 13, 2005 4:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmm. L.A. cops for Villaraigosa; L.A. firefighters for Hahn.

Which group gets more universal respect among the diverse electorate??

May 13, 2005 4:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't bash LAPD, my husband hates Villaraigosa and so do our friends. They are all LAPD cops.

May 13, 2005 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Viva Hahn!
Baca and officers

May 13, 2005 4:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH yeah, speaking of Parke -- he had to change up his "musical" tastes, albeit ecletic" in the puffery piece about him in the ADV-LEANING Times -- since someone outed him as a liberal/socialist guilt-ridden (BLACK) jazz maven.

So now he's BIG on 'bluegrass." Yeah, like that jives.

Might be good though. The weather forecast for Wednesday morning next week is slightly overcast -- and I know one lying pol on his client list that's going to need some SERIOUS attention at his hillside home that day when he undergoes a MAJOR "Foggy Mountain BREAKDOWN." Better have the bodyguards standing by to disarm him when he comes looking for the hacks that made him a TWO-TIME loser in the same race he was handicapped to WIN twice.

(Just make sure he signs the checks, first!)

May 13, 2005 5:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The good thing about most professional cops -- regardless of what their unions do, is that they can tell a lying conman on sight. Professional hazard... no wonder they had to hire fakes for ADV's ads.

May 13, 2005 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ads, right. With all that money in the bank, you would have at least thought ADV's film students could have found someone who looked slightly LIKE James Hahn for their little 'running away in the woods" parody.

I'm afraid people are going to think ADV in some election running against Tom La Bonge -- that's about as close as they got in appearance.

Who's running their casting calls, Mr. Magoo?

May 13, 2005 5:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That wasn't their main point - previous poster. This is ALL about bitter payback. They just HAD to do a "grainy" image ad to make up for last time's Vignali crackpipe ad.

May 13, 2005 5:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not bashing LAPD -- I think most are great, too... I'm just saying -- if you had to pick one public safety branch of "heroes" that every voted looks up to - it's the firefighters, not the cops.

I don't think it's fair -- but after Rampart and Rodney King, etc., etc...

May 13, 2005 5:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio has maybe 50 LA cops backing him. Their the losers that the rest of the dept. hate. Racist Latinos and Blacks. LAPD endorsed HAHN today. They don't want a gangster Mayor who supports gangs, child abusers, drug dealers. They hate ADV. He has a police record and he will embarrass them. Word is they will leave if (highly doubtful) he wins.

Lame ass Baca made a complete ass of himself. Bratton has to be laughing. His poor deputies came out to apologize and an investigation hasn't even been completed. They are being used for Baca. What an asshole! Baca states "this has never been done, law enforcement coming out to apologize." Idiot! why in the hell should they apologize when they get a 911 call that theres' a man with a gun. Baca just set those poor deputies up for major lawsuits. Thank god for BRATTON

May 13, 2005 5:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn's staffer was at the hospital.

they did ask what was posted.

ask JJ.

May 13, 2005 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Prove it. What staffer was it?

This is such bullshit.

May 13, 2005 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Richard Acosta and Manny Hernandez AKA "in the closet lovers" are just bitter because they got their ass handed to them last weekend. What will they do with all their extra time since they are both bitter loosers with no life???

May 13, 2005 5:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which one of then is "JJ"???

May 13, 2005 5:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah? I hear Antonio is actually sleeping with Jack Weiss -- but only two nights a week.

BOY is Hert_berg pissed!

May 13, 2005 5:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's true... DW knows where this shack up.

OH, and sometimes they have QP over for threesomes.

U dig?

May 13, 2005 5:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

But only if FF isn't in town, because that could get messy!

May 13, 2005 5:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I didn't post that last one - but I keep forgetting anyway.

"No charge for anything I've blogged today,Mayor Jim"

Kick ADV's hiney on Tuesday. Tell him to go back to his district and finish the "trainee" city worker's course.

May 13, 2005 5:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Typical Antonio supporters are full of so much hate. They slander, are violent, threatening just like Antonio. I'm sure the gay and lesbians organiz. that are supporting ADV would love to hear "the hate" in these people. They desperately need anger management classes. They are immature, uneducated adults who behave like juveniles. Everyone knows who they are. That crime report taken should scare the shit out of them. Grow up! They don't know the meaning of the word respect. They are macho stupid Latinos that have never gotten out of the barrio. They have an old ELA mentality and are an embarrassement to the rest of us.

May 13, 2005 5:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh yeah, and have him turn in his hairnet -- they're running low in the cafeteria!

May 13, 2005 5:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For being such macho Latino bullies, ADV etc., sure surround themselves with some sissy la la campaign consultants. Sheesh, did you see all those photos in the paper?

May 13, 2005 5:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Better up that total amount paid by the Hahn campaign to Doug Boyd to $30,000!

May 13, 2005 5:35 PM  

Blogger Indianrunner12 said:

Is this real?

May 13, 2005 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you were fishing for some irate reactions there, 5:20 p.m., you really misfired.

Acosta and Hernandez are not on here blogging against Antonio. If they were, there would be a lot more dirt flying than this. They've been around the Eastside for awhile and know where Antonio's buried "the bodies." The ADV-lovers would be pulling their hair out in agony if some of the real "in-the-know" people were on here dealing ADV's decades of dirt!

But nasty try, anyway!

May 13, 2005 5:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio better take control of his supporters and what they're saying especially on this blog. They just slandered two community people who have done more then I'm sure the immature bigots. With an attorney I'm sure they could subpoena who posted that "HATE MESSAGE." This type of attidue doesn't surprise anyone though from Antonio's camp. Hahn supporters will debate the issues with them any day of the week but they're too uneducated and their man doesn't really have a record to debate.

May 13, 2005 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh hell, make it an even $100K to Boyd.

So FUKKING what?

Is there something illegal, unethical, immoral, or fattening about any of that?

You retarded ADV-lovers wouldn't know a well-run non-partisan campaign if it burned your hemoroids off.

ADV got a BIG lead with tons more money then IMMEDIATELY started shitting it away thousands of votes at a time, just to pull in $50K more from Miami crooks.

He made backroom deals to con the #3 and #4 guys in the primary into his camp, and THEN started LOSING their support groups faster than either one of THEM gained them.

Then he started running from any FREE media that could find his crooked little ass, and now he's stepping on his tongue in public whenever someone even LOOKs like they're going to throw him anything but a softball question.

He's not only got not "legs" for the final stretch, he's on his knees begging his supporters to come "protect" him mean, bad, boring Hahn for another wasted $1 million bucks.


May 13, 2005 5:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OOh OOH OOH, Boyd is getting money from the mayor's campaign -- Now ALL the fake GOP posters here for ADV are going to UP and QUIT the LINCOLN Clubs!

Write them a nasty letter, too. Then go sit and sulk with Wacko and crew!

May 13, 2005 5:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, start your own damn wing of the GOP party, and concentrate on electing that ONE city councilman a year so he can PROTECT THE GOP agenda in city politics.

Moore and his Bettercrats! (BitterCrats?) We can't win, but we KEEP the line down the middle of the aisle CLEAN and untarnished (just in case a conservative is someday elected to citywide office again).

May 13, 2005 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My post on the payments to Doug Boyd has nothing to do Hahn or Antonio. It has everything to do with a GOP that can't seem to get off its fat white ass to support its own candidates for non-partisan office.

May 13, 2005 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So which Hahn hack was at the hospital? Someone please connect the dots.

May 13, 2005 5:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

McOsker and Yusef were both at the hospital.

May 13, 2005 6:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How come Parke doesn't share some of that hair with Ace?

May 13, 2005 6:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yusef was not at the hospital. He was busy issuing a Hahn statement that was released before MC's wife even learned about his passing.

May 13, 2005 6:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The GOP can't run a candidate for citywide office that can win in a 65 percent Dem city. It's suicide, which would only harm them.

Don't assasinate the pragmatists who are trying to "conserve" some aspects of sanity by negating the socialists hordes of Villaraigosa.

L.A. has changed, get over it, take your meds, or join the white-flighters in Riverside County.

May 13, 2005 6:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just have to LOVE the way the fake GOP posters are expressing such fake outrage over HAHN having someone on staff that's a real GOP person.

Republicans who support a slightly more moderate Hahn are traitors, but GOP pols that endorse a rabid socialist like ADV are somehow visonary? Big tent thinkers?

Too shrill to be real, and so obviously ADV plants trying to surpress valley votes last minute.

You can cry party loyalty all you want -- when the conservative ink those dots, their looking for the candidate most likely to keep them safe in their cozy little beds at night, and that is NOT ACLU-embracing Tony V.


May 13, 2005 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought ADV was supposed to be the BIG uniter, Mr. Con-Census... going to drag Republicans across the aisle kicking and screaming up to the bargaining table so we can all break bread together on our knees, Lordy, lordy.

Boyd said they're working to elect GOP in county areas, where they have some chances -- meantime, they need someone in City Hall who's not downright "DANGEROUS" to the people.

i.e. (my interpretation) Got to keep enough people ALIVE in L.A. city (16 homicides in CD14 and ADV hasn't BLINKED), to GET to the next city election and MAYBE find someone who doesn't first scare off most REAL Republicans come endorsement time.

May 13, 2005 6:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam started this out with: "These people are in cahoots with the Democrats!"

I see your "cahoots" and raise you one "consensus."

Potato, potahto!

If it's MY team it's "consensus-building" -- if it's yours it, "cahoots," collaboration, and treachery.

Weak thread... VERY, very weak!

May 13, 2005 6:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

At least Yusef washes his hair, unlike rat's nest Parke, dandruff-ridden Kam, greaser Carrick and beeswax Ace.

May 13, 2005 6:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Middlebrook resurfaced at the hospital!

May 13, 2005 6:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In case anyone caught that slam a bit ago about the two gentlemen with Hispanic surnames having rumors thrown around about their personal lives -- this is a PRIME example.

These are two elected neighborhood council presidents who had the NERVE to endorse someone other than ADV -- traitors to their race, to la raza! How dare they!

So now there's payback.

This ALSO goes hand in hand with the OTHER NC president who resigned about being ripped a new one by ADV's CD14 field staff -- she ALSO endorsed someone OTHER than ADV for mayor. She was seen in the parking lot of the ER library taking verbal abuse from CD field staff -- and it now GONE from the NC system.

This is the payback, the "code," the OMERTA, that CD14 people have been talking about. Just like in the story books. And then you ask WHY ARE YOU ALL ANONYMOUS -- come out and make your accusations publicly.

Why, so this can happen to ME, too???

If you follow ADV, make DAMN sure you never decide somewhere down the line that he's not worth supporting anymore. EASY for a Mayor Sam to jovially say -- hey, if he's a bad mayor, we'll ditch HIM, too. BOY are you mistaken.

Your reputations will be forfeited if you CROSS him of his toadies in ANY way. You'll lose position, your community projects won't be funded, your name will be drug through the mud.

WITNESS this... You're seeing the attacks HERE, people ON this blog -- up close and personal. Slammed, slimed, painted as "race traitors."

You can't deny it. His is a crooked, vengeful little regime. If you're IN -- your IN for life, or your life will be made like hell!

May 13, 2005 6:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Julie Wong was NOT at the hospital!

May 13, 2005 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gunnlaugs Saga Ormstungu! These three are for you, Parke!

May 13, 2005 6:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ask rst about who was at the hospital.

May 13, 2005 6:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No kidding, 6:46 Anonymous. I've only seen Antonio's field staff in action a few times because they avoid neighborhood council meetings mostly, but they start off defensive and end up downright abusive. They make that guy Bolton they're talking about putting up at the UN look cool and calm.

Future mayor's staff, huh? Good luck people downtown!

May 13, 2005 7:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If the LA Times weren't paid Antonio lovers they would have done a story on these incompetent field staffers. All they would have to do is go to ANY community meeting and they would see for themselves. The disrespect, the lies, the condensing tone they use when speaking to residents, seniors, community activists. They are not liked in any part of CD14. That poster who has been saying its interesting that NOT ONE community person, or organization in CD14 has endorsed Antonio. That's a RED FLAG and dumb reporters should have gone after that story but they're too lazy. Except for the "Z" man David Z.

May 13, 2005 7:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You should of seen how CD14 staff was treating volunteers at their so called day of service. Gabby and her Dike girl friend Sarno were such Bitches to every one. They didn’t even have food for any of their volunteers. I hope they do go to City Hall and get the hell out of El Sereno.

May 13, 2005 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Proof of Southwest Voter Registration Education Project's working as a field organization for the Villaraigosa Campaign, in violation of it's 501(c)3 non-profit status and violating the reporting requirements for all Independent Expenditure Campaigns:

"While SVREP does not support candidates or political parties, according to our analysis, if the Latino vote would have been hyper mobilized and turned out at a rate of 63.2%, more than 199.759 Latino would have voted. Assuming the rate of Latinos voting for Villaraigosa remains constant at 82% he would have received an additional 51,679 Latino votes. This scenario, more simply expressed as Latinos comprising 32% of all votes cast, would have led to victory for Villaraigosa."


May 13, 2005 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SarNO! isn't in the El Sereno office, 7:47 p.m. -- she's deputy CoS and runs the Highlad Park/Eagle Rock office (if you call that "running" something!)

May 13, 2005 10:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tengo la camisa negra

May 14, 2005 12:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My Spanish is less than "pocho" but I'm guessing that's the local equivalent of the stained blue dress??

May 14, 2005 12:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hurray for Sarno and that other lady at the cleanup, the accomplished more people to get pissed off at ADV!

May 14, 2005 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sarno’s bitch has never been a lady. Gaby and ADV actually share a lot of things in common. They were both thugs from the projects that got knocked up as teens. Their own children hate them. No wonder why constituents can’t deal with her.

May 14, 2005 1:58 PM  

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