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Wednesday, March 23, 2005

Hahn's abandonment

So last night, the Los Angeles County Democratic Party endorsed Antonio Villaraigosa with over 60% of the vote.

LA Times

Daily News

The other night we reported that Jim Hahn had a really strong shot at the endorsement. I was wrong, according to various accounts and e-mails the Villaraigosa machine was in full throttle. Early reports tell us here at Sister City that the Villaraigosa campaign had one of the most sophisticated count systems in modern campaigning. Jim Hahn's camp set up laptops and had delegate whips at every corner making sure their votes were showing up. The Villaraigosa machine had counters watching the credential table, knowing first hand what their ultimate vote count would be well before Jim Hahn. They had an intricate hand signal system that told them minute by minute what was going on without seeming over confident. The Villaraigosa campaign was hoping and counting on one thing, that the Hahn campaign would over play their hand and have signs, posters and stickers all over the place trying to place fear and a perception of victory in the hearts of the reporters.

There were also Villaraigosa aides in attendance that know one recognized -- does anyone on the blog know who these aides were?

This was Hahn's major error, while the Villaraigosa campaign was unsure of the ultimate outcome they knew one thing, lower expectations. For whatever reason the Hahn campaign didn't, and with this major party abandonment which reporters did not see coming the endorsement story is even bigger for Villaraigosa.

What the Villaraigosa team knew is that City Hall beat reporters aren't surprised by anything anymore, so if they got this endorsement it could not be seen as an expected move, but a true surprise. Which for all intensive reasons was.

We are also hearing.

Many of the building trade leaders were pissed off mainly at the Hahn campaign for over playing their hand, these guys know they have signed on with a loser and the rats are jumping from the ship.

In other News.

Sen Alarcon endorsed Antonio and gave a passionate speech about why Antonio is the best man for Mayor.

Congressman Brad Sherman who stayed neutral 4 years ago, endorsed Antonio Villaraigosa.

Homeowner/Property owners association Presidents Gerald Silver and Bill Jasper endorsed Antonio Villaraigosa.

Retired councilman Hal Bernson endorsed Jim Hahn.

Scorecard

Antonio Villaraigosa - 8
Jim Hahn - 2


Curious George Wants to Know: While I understand that the Democratic Party has abandoned Jim Hahn, why has Bill Carrick and Kam Kuwata?

According to delegates in attendance, Antonio had Ace Smith and Parke Skelton observing the results.

Jim Hahn had (cricket noises) what is really unusual given that Kam and Bill attended every other Democratic Party Central committee meeting where Jim Hahn was up for an endorsement, months ago and 4 years ago.

If I am a reporter, I ask where in the world is Kam Kuwata? Maybe he has an easy out since he's never really been paid by the campaign.

As MEAT would say - Blog Away!

136 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, it won't be long until the Hahnista's get on this blog and start filibusting why Antonio is ADD and not paying attention to the CD14 and no one likes him or respects him or trusts him. Money (votes) talks; BS (blogs)walks.

The truth is that this endorsement is worth more than 2 points, Sam, because it leads to the state party and $1,000,000 or more.

But hey, Hahn got Hal Bernson (doing a favor for AV?)and Antonio only got the party and Alarcon.

More coming...Maxine Waters (a huge one)is for sure; can Hugs and Bernie be far behind?

Will Carrick and Wardlaw pull an Ira Reiner? Have Jim pull out RIGHT NOW, to try to blunt the ignomy of a crushing defeat?

Stay tuned to this station.

OK, Anti-Antonio's, your turn. I'll only post this ONCE. See if you can control yourselves.

March 23, 2005 3:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't know about you guys that were there, but Tony's team did have an impressive battle strategy. Hahn seems to be a little rudderless right now. If anything, this should be the writing on the wall that everyone elese seems to see, but Hahn's campaign braintrust. But the endorsement of the Democratic Party this year is much more hallow than in 2001 - no Broad, no Burke pumping in millions to the Democratic Party. All the endorsement amounts to is another slate mailer.

Another thing I witnessed last night, besides the lackluster effort of the Hahn people, is that the RECALL people finally showed their face. I'm still reading some of those leaflets they were passing out - rather interesting stuff on Antonio without the expected personal attacks. Too bad Hahn couldn't go on the offensive like this. Maybe the RECALL is Hahn's only chance. If the RECALL gets enough money to take their message citywide, Tony will be in trouble. Afterall, nobody really knows what's going on in his home district.

March 23, 2005 6:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hand signals?

March 23, 2005 6:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I like that bright orange tie, MEAT.

By the way, Chief Parker, you are only posting what the Villaraigosa supporters are telling you. There were at least 10 recall people there handing out flyers and no mention of that.

March 23, 2005 6:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Calm Down Drama Queens. Yes indeed the RECALL PEOPLE WERE THERE. Didn't Attention Deficit Villaraigosa get this same endorsement in 2001 AND STILL LOST? Like I've said a 1,000 times ITS ALL IN TIMING. Alarcon proves what a pussy he is. After telling everyone while campaigning what a sleazebag Antonio was for lying to him and what a weak mayor he would be there he is. Guess he WANTS TO BE ANTONIO'S BITCH. Its laughable cause how many votes did Alarcon get like 3%? C'mon guys. The race hasn't even started. Hahn is a very smart man. Do you guys REALLY THINK he doesn't have his best playing cards up his sleeve? NEVER UNDERESTIMATE HIM. Antonio's CD14 are now beginning to get their momemtum as well. Love those recall flyers guys. Make sure the Valley, Westside and South LA get them. One voter who got it late stated "I wish I would have seen this before."

March 23, 2005 6:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nothing in the LA Times about the recall either. Either you recall guys are dreaming or there is a conspiracy by the press, the politicians, even Mayor Sam, to make sure a recall never happens again. Are there any actors living in CD14?

March 23, 2005 7:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Was that MEAT the little guy with ADV all night with the red tie? He's not as fat as everyone says. Gotta love the booing Fabian Nunez got when he lower himself to an all time low talking about "negative campaigning." The boos were defeaning. He felt like an asshole then tried to fix it but was too late. LAT today states the trouble he's in as speaker.

Nunez being paid $35,000 a year, personally, not as a campaign contribution....by the way this is highly illegal.

March 23, 2005 7:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The only shot of the recallers in the media was on Ch 9 last night when they showed Monica Harman (at first I thought it was Mimi from the Drew Carrey Show, but then I recognized her through all that makeup) and Martha Cisneros holding and wearing their Hahn placards and stickers as Villaraigosa walked the room. Oh yeah, they really were a force blocking the endorsement. What a bunch of political whores.

March 23, 2005 7:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, I saw those clowns there last night, along with a few others of the recall crew. It's obvious from what I saw last night that their "recall" is nothing more than a publicity campaign against Villaraigosa. There's no reason to believe that their efforts are going into signature gathering, but rather in tarnishing Villaraigosa's name. If that's what they were going to do, why not just form a committee "La Colectiva" style than put the recall face on? I guess to TRY to give them some credibility. Good luck.

March 23, 2005 8:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Poltical whores? Is that the way Vilaraigosa supporters talk about his constituents who express their right to support another candidate. If that is the case, the people of Los Angeles should worry greatly if Villaraigosa is the next mayor. It seems the people around Villaraigosa are going to be the left equivalents of the Bush supporters. Not a good prospect.

March 23, 2005 8:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fabian Nunez is a disgrace. The "speaker" is a total lackey of Contreras (why does MC have to pay $35,000 to control a moron?). What did Villaraigosa say last night? "Fabian is going to be a household name in the future" Fabian Nunez the Cheech of democratic politics.

March 23, 2005 8:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:57 am poster This is Monica Harmon and I received many calls regarding statements made on this blog. I am not part of the Recall as I don't even live in CD14 so you Antonio supporters have it all wrong as usual. Antonio supporters always try and discredit anyone who doesn't agree with them.

March 23, 2005 9:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

$35K to Fabian Nunez from MC. With all the millions Labor has, now that's a cheap whore. You should learn from Tony and become a high price call girl with high priced clients like Broad and Burkle. And what was that in the RECALL flyer about Parke Skelton getting money from Labor to oppose secession - this after Tony revived their dead effort with State millions? How much money did Parke get paid anyway?

March 23, 2005 9:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Geez you sure quote MEAT alot Parker ("Blog AWAY!")... you're either actually him or WAY too much of an admirer for comfort.
Get an original idea - steal one if you have to!

March 23, 2005 9:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, Fabian will become a household name as soon as his crime record gets out - wife battering still isn't kosher. And what about those hundreds of illegals out there who claim with pride that their "coyote" - or smuggler, was none other than the Speaker of the California State Assembly.

Besides the crime record, do you know what else Fabian and Antonio have in common. Antonio got to be the second most powerful person in this State of 25 million while mustering only 14,000 votes in 1994. Fabian did him one better, he got to be Speaker while only managing 11,000 votes! Let's hear it for California democracy in action!

March 23, 2005 9:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Am I hearing this correctly? Alarcon was the biggest supporter of Neighborhood Councils. Antonio doesn't support Neighborhood Councils and in fact hasn't been to some of his in CD14 for at least 2 years and in fact he sits on the Education and Neighborhood Committee. Then Alarcon has a Coalition who campaigned hard for him on the Eastside because they hated Antonio so much because he hasn't done anything for his own district. Now, Alarcon turns around after telling everyone what a LIAR Antonio is for telling him he's not running and now Alarcon is supporting Antonio!#$%^^&& Gee, I wonder what his Coalition is suppose tell people now? "Hey, Richard made a mistake and that's why we walked the streets for him because we thought he was the better candidate." But Alarcon thought he hated Antonio a couple of weeks ago but then changed his mind. Now that we supported Richard against Antonio "we don't know what we're suppose to do or say."

March 23, 2005 9:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So Richard Alarcon endorses Tony. He's just like all those little girls with low self esteem that keep going back to Tony and asking for more. "Please Tony, make it hurt." Maybe Tony made Alarcon another promise - like making that federal investigation go away. How did his former politcal conultant buy that $850,000 home in Sherman Oaks - and in cash!

March 23, 2005 9:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NC's are very very very very very very very disappointed in Alarcon. Say it ain't so Joe! If Antonio becomes Mayor (mnay of us doubt it) then we have someone who doesn't support our cause. Thanks a lot Alarcon. You just sold your soul to the devil. Someone please send this man some balls.

March 23, 2005 9:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To all you Antonio haters:

You had FOUR years to work the committee and still could not pull it off. There are some many things you could have done -
1.)Get your own people elected to the committee
2.)Speak out and campaign against the re-call when it first started
3.)Go out and support our party by endorsing and fighting for our Presidential candidate.

But, like Hahn’s term in office - the lights are on but no body is home.

I resented the fact that Kropke was out there with his business reps looking like a bunch of thugs trying to intimidate the vote. An election of this magnitude takes months/years of planning - but like everything else in Hahn's administration- they are being reactive instead of proactive.

About the recall whores - and yes they are nothing but attention needy whores who can’t do anything but cry and moan about how bad things are in CD 14 - where were you and your Mayor during those days of service - regardless of who started the program? Where were you Acosta when we were trying to stop the Elephant Hill development and the connector road - silent and in hiding that's where!

In regard to Alarcon- I respect the man more than ever. I may not have voted for him in the last cycle - but I did respect his ideas. If anyone of you has ever tossed your name in for an election, even Pacheco and GutieRuiz will agree, it takes a toll on you and your family. You expose yourself to every asshole out there to eat you up and spit you out as you try to do what you think is best for our community. Alarcon could have done the safe thing, stay out, and concentrate on his campaign for Assembly in 2006. But he made a ballsy choice and decided to endorse the guy who has the best ideas and best vision for our City.

In terms of the Speaker calling a spade a spade - someone had to tell the truth.

Finally to all the La Colectiva refugees - this is not a Villaraigosa vs. Pacheco thing. Get over it - we won and your guy has moved on to other ventures and que vaya con Dios. It is so funny to see how completely hypocritical you all are by kissing up to your new found labor friends. When Nick ran the first time you hated the unions for endorsing Griego and then you vilified them for endorsing Antonio - now they are the best thing since sliced bread.

As for the ties the guys were wearing, I liked both Hahn's and Trujillo's ties.

March 23, 2005 10:02 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

How much different is ANY of this stuff than 4 years ago, especially the endorsements? Not much.

Hahn is the incumbent (and not nearly as "damaged" as the ranting anti-Hahn types would like to think), and Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa isn't a carefree unattached ex-speaker anymore. He's a lowly city councilmember. Even the Times puff piece on ADV® weeks back said he's had an "unimpressive" record for the past two years.

He IS facing a recall (like it or not... ADV®-lovers, you can't wish it away). The media may not do huge profiles on it (but eventually someone will). Sooner or later, even the laziest editors will get tired of their brain-dead reporters turning in "endorsement-of-the-day" stories over and over. As long as there are protesters passing out ANYthing saying ADV® lied and screwed his district for two years, the media is also never going to move their analysis of him up from "unimpressive." They may not cover the recall every time they discuss ADV®, but it's existence in any form means to them he has NOT been a "consensus-builder" in his own backyard, and hasn't been doing his current job at all. All that means he's just a con-man with slick ads and a list of district accomplishment (singular) that can't be backed up.

Hey, maybe Hahn is "rope-a-doping" ADV® (and his supporters), knowing he gets WAY more juice from them through pity for "poor Antonio." Every letter from the campaign staff starts out with "we need to get ready for when mean-old Jim Hahn picks on our beloved Antonio. . . SO SEND MONEY" (a paraphrase). Hahn's camp is savvy enough to know how little these endorsements mean in terms of real votes -- they're just ways to kill time until early May (yeah, endorsements mean money, but not necessarily votes; how many TV ads can you buy without turning votes OFF). ADV® isn't going to keep getting as much "sympathy" money from people who feel Hahn is beating him up, if he (ADV®) is the one always on the attack.

Someone else posted that the last two weeks are the next major phase -- all bets are off after that (um, 2001?). The media's natural tendency in the final weeks will be to tear down whichever candidiate's been getting the most positive press up to that point (which AIN'T gonna be Hahn). They have a Jones for knocking off the guy perceived to be on top that goes back to watching "All the President's Men" in J-school. It's incurable. It;s why they became journalists in the FIRST place. From May 1 on, it's Hahn (who's never lost a citywide race), AND the Times AND the DN, all going ANTI-ADV® for two solid weeks.

March 23, 2005 10:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon endorses Tony, ha ha ha. Tony would have been better off with Becerra's endorsement. Only 3% of the vote, what a pathetic showing. And then Nunez gets up there to push Tony - how many votes in the City of L.A. did Fabian get when he ran for assembly -3500. Still a long way to go to make up that 40,000 vote deficit of 2001.

And only 117 votes gets Tony that pathetic endorsement - I can hear all those republicans and right wing nut jobs snickering right now. Yeah Tony, that Democratic Party endorsement will go a long way in attracting that conservative white vote in the valley that you desparately need- maybe there is a silver lining in this cloud for Hahn afterall. Maybe Kuwata knows something you don't Chief Parker.

March 23, 2005 10:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get over it? If Antonio would have done to Juana Guiterrez and she was YOUR MOTHER by trying to destroy her and all the good work she has done in the community would you get over it? This is not a Pacheco vs Tony thing you're right. Its a Tony you LIED but more importantly what is your record for the last 2 years? Please don't say those 80 Neighborhood Councils that don't exist. Please don't say getting your community to sweep. Please don't say just because you OPPOSED something that was an accomplishment. Antonio has absolutely nothing to show for his 2 years because he was too busy campaigning for Kerry. We all know that. Now its pathetic that Antonio supporters would call people who believe in a cause "whores." That's in Antonio's vocabulary not intelligent, mature adults use this type of language. Again, using the words "thugs" in Antonio's dictionary just like when MEAT states "Gotti style." Who speaks in those terms expect people who have never educated themselves to an adult level of rational and maturity.

March 23, 2005 10:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alarcon you should be ashamed of yourself. You just proved what a hypocrite you truly are. No wonder you only got 3% of the votes.

March 23, 2005 10:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In terms of Juana and what you claim Antonio did:

Juana and Ricardo knew PERFECTLY well what they were getting themsleves into when they allowed their house to be listed as the official address of record for the La Colectiva IE. She is an extremly smart woman and people's good intentions of trying to protect her only make her look like a poor uneducated houswife - which she IS DEFINETLY NOT. She is a player and you have to be able to take a hit if you are going to dish it out.

You have also ommitted the fact that Pacheco tried his hardest to prevent Antonio from making a living and feeding his family after the 2001 race. That's bullshit. You don't call around to city contractors and lobbiests and tell them that if they give Antonio any work they can kiss their city contracts goodbye.

About the word thug not being appropriate - what else would you call loud mouths like Rolando getting up into people's faces and saying they "better vote for Hahn or else."

March 23, 2005 10:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is sooooooo typical of Antonio supporters. Let's get back to the real issues. Again critizing Hahn supporters for the mere fact they are passionate about their candidate. Last I heard there was a 1st ammendment right in this country. But then again Antonio and his people don't believe in allowing people to speak their minds or else he or his people use strong arm tactics to try and shut them up. How sad this is the person some people want as a Mayor of this great city. Not in my lifetime.

March 23, 2005 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Obviously Anon 10:36 was not at the meeting last night. If you were you would have seen how a real campaign organizes and does not have to lower their standards to shouting and intimidating voters.

It's about using all your resources ahead of time and not reacting to things at the last minute. This is the big leagues and with all his years holding City-wide office, you would think that Hahn knows how to play.

In regards to free speech, anyone is free to express their opinion unless they invade people's personal space or make open ended threats. You know how the Hahnista overzealous lackys are that's why they have to resort to quoting the constitution to justify their crude actions.

And by the way, Villaraigosa will become Mayor of our great City and it will happen in your lifetime- in a couple of weeks actually.

March 23, 2005 10:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 10:31 Anon

Isn't that what Steve Barkan said in the Times that he was "trying to protect" the mothers. Isn't that what Antonio told Mr. Gutierrez that he was "trying to protect Juana." All of a sudden she is capable of taking care of herself?

The fact is, Antonio and his consultants lied about Juana and the MELASI scholarship program no longer exists.

She welcomed Mothers for Nick in her household just the same way she welcomed many other causes for our community. Antonio should know this, he's been a guest at her house and even broken bread with her as her guest. Do you think she or her family will forgive what he did?

Yes, politics is a school of hard knocks and no one knows this better than Juana. She and her family have taken countless political risks for the betterment of our community. But Antonio and his consultants, who have no loyalty to her community, tried to discredit a good organization just to get him elected. But from what I hear, Juana still has plenty of fight left - keep egging her on, if I know Juana, she'll resurface soon.

March 23, 2005 10:53 AM  

Anonymous meat said:

FROM MEAT:

Sorry folks, i really really wish i can say i was at the democratic party vote last night. But alas I was not, i was helping out at the boyle heights office last night. Getting ready for a big push this saturday.

That said, i agree with the poster that talked about timing, i believe the jim hahn campaign is smart and not too worried.

I also believe that this will be a close race, 51-49, and it can easily go in one direction or the other. Let's just be honest about that, however if this campaign is going to be so close, than every little bit helps. Every positive news story today helps, every endorsment helps, it just does. For the Hahn supporters know this, your candidate is just as engaged in the endorsement game as Antonio is, if you can accept that, then you must accept that in this one on one game Antonio is winning (according to chief parker's card).

Also someone also made a reference to me being chief parker or vice-versa, you must be the biggest dum-dum of all. I am an Antonio partisan, never hid it, so how can i be chief parker when during the primary he supported Bob and took cheap shots at Antonio.

Doesn't make sense, but most things you crazies say on this blog make no sense.

blog away dum-dums

March 23, 2005 10:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF ME I'D GIVE YOU A BIG HUG AND A KISS. That's the first time you've actually said something non-partisan and right on the money. Hahn is by no means a dumb man. He almost sacrificed his political career getting rid of Parks. He got 23% of the black vote more than Antonio. This race will be right up to the last week.

March 23, 2005 11:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Juana should and has continued to be involved as her two big Hahn lawnsigns outside her house proudly display.

My comment that I guess started all this was how some posters still can't get over the fact that La Colectiva Pacheco lost. Hey, I had to bare not winning in 2001. We came up short. That will NOT happen again - that's why I'm working my ass off to ensure that Antonio and his vision for this City get chosen in May.

It's about talking to voters not about intimidating them. You CAN fight City Hall. We did it with Nick and we will do it again with Jimmy!

March 23, 2005 11:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

here is the chance for those who ahve been told by antonio v to keep quiet at council sessions to speak up :

http://mobrules1.blogspot.com/

March 23, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT, I think the comment was that Parker needed to get an identity of his own, and stop stealing your sign-off lines. We know ADV people are uncreative lemmings, but come on - find a tagline of your own.

March 23, 2005 11:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who are the political Whores? a corupt politician along with the numeriuos lies (to gain support)about uniting the community counsels, or the constituents from all three communities in CD 14, whom are empowered by truth and integrity to expose the true Antonio Villaraigosa? Again, as a previous blogger posted, We have the right to support any canidate! We are not going to be hypocritable by supporting Antonio! He is seriously officially being recalled in the 14th district! The recall is gaining momentum, and we are continuing gathering signatures. we have till May 7th before the election. For those of you that did get the leaflets last night please note that the statements made in the leaflets are true and should be considered. Also note there was no personal attacks on Antonio Villaraigosa. The Facts are there. There are legitimate reasons for the recall. For all the more reason he should not be Mayor.
Eliseo Villanueva.

March 23, 2005 11:27 AM  

Anonymous meat said:

FROM MEAT:

Mayor Sam, Chief Parker - you have permission to use my words.

As for the Eastside debate...

Juana should, can and does support her candidate, i don't care who she supports, support away. It's when these "supporters" become "bashers" that angers me. I don't mind going toe to toe with these folks, but just know i don't throw the first punch, you guys do.

If i recall the 4-5 days after Antonio announced he was running there was an independent mailer sent out to voters bashing Antonio, to the point where sheriff lee baca had to take back his endorsemnt of Pacheco.

All Antonio did then was file papers, and all the pacheco supporters did then was bash Antonio, they really never gave a positive argument for pacheco.

Seems like Hahn wants to use that strategy too.

I think if anything, for all the Hahn bashing i do, i still give positive news on Antonio. I really don't know if that can be said for the Hahn supporters.

Make a compelling argument why you guy is best, the sad reality is this debate won't be about that because Hahn has no real record to stand on. The bloggers here aren't Hahn supporters they are Antonio haters, and it's not exactly a debate we have on this blog, its an argument.

blog away

March 23, 2005 11:36 AM  

Anonymous The Angelino said:

The Hahn machine did not break down last night. It has been sucking wind all campaign. They need a serious restructure if he is to pull this one off. By the way, if endorsements mean nothing then why do they fight so hard for them. Hahn lost the Union vote to Villaraigosa despite have Union support, but his union showing was good enough to get him by Hertzberg. As Antonio said last night, many times, but he told me as I passed him by the elevators at UTLA, "this is big"

March 23, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Its interesting MEAT how you state that the Hahn supporters attack Antonio. That's simply not the case. They state Antonio has no record after 2 years in his district and they list the lies he's told. The Antonio supporters don't want to hear it. YES there are constituents who don't support him. How can you debate when the candidate has nothing on record to debate on? MEAT you still haven't stated what Antonio's position is on 3-12? Why won't you answer? I'm assuming he either is afraid to come out with his position or he has no clue what the 3-12 schedule is about.

March 23, 2005 11:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT

If I recall correctly, those Ricardo Torres mailers were sent before Antonio announced. That is why Torres was never prosecuted for sending out mailers with no disclaimer on them. As for Lee Baca, he used to be the court deputy in Ricardo's father's court, Superior Court Judge Ricardo Torres, and was only doing what his cosultant - the same as Antonio's - directed him to do.

As for the mailers, there was some juicy information on them and as Ricardo bragged, for only $3K he was able to get nearly $2 million of publicity. The whole incident, as your boss Parke pointed out in the press, was started when Antonio and Ricardo got into a shouting match. I'm no fan of Ricardo, or his principles, but from Antonio's response to these mailers in the Times, "I will not comment on the substance of the mailers" I guess they were pretty accurate. Maybe the RECALL committee can get their hands on some of these. From what I hear, nobody has ever seen any of these mailers.

Nick got hurt by these mailers. I hear Nick and Ricardo don't even talk anymore. But as slimy as Ricardo is, he and Antonio certainly deserve each other.

March 23, 2005 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am a "Hahn-supporter" by default. He would not have been my first choice, but Villaraigosa is my last. Simply put, nothing Villaraigosa suggests or promises matters, in the end, because he doesn't keep them. He could suggest a cost-free way to erase gridlock overnight and promise to make every student in LAUSD a 4.0 with his own money, and it wouldn't matter in the end -- because HE DOESN'T KEEP HIS PROMISES!

How can it be any more simple than that. Both candidates promise a lot during their last elections (they all do). One (Hahn) doesn't keep all his promises; the other (Villaraigosa), keeps NONE.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time here trying to telling why Hahn is the "best" candidate for mayor. He is only the better choice of the two left standing. (But, frankly, nearly all the pro-Villaraigosa banter provided here over and over -- especially as it pertains for his district -- is almost immediately proven to be false, so how can that count anyway?).

I have lived in L.A. for many years. I've lived through the past 4 years of Hahn being mayor, and I can honestly say that things could be mcuh better (or much worse). I have also lived through the last 2 years of Villaraigosa's term as a city councilman in CD14, and can just as honestly say, things could be and should have been a LOT better here. The only thing keeping them from improving was the presence of an inattentive and dishonest CM.

However, as someone said here before about not using "AWOL" (about Hahn) in pro-Villaraigosa banter, the Meat-poster that preceded this really shouldn't use "no real record to stand on" re: Hahn. Not if that poster is a Villaraigosa supporter. Hahn has been less than perfect as a mayor, Villaraigosa has been perfectly useless to CD14 and its needs. He should not be mayor, he shouldn't even by a city councilmember.

March 23, 2005 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Elected officials aren't willing to work with Hahn or his staff cause they're incompetent. It shouldn't be no surpise that no one likes his people or him.

These endorsements are huge for Villaraigosa. It's not the same as four years ago. Villaraigosa doesn't have the official support of labor or other groups and organizations but he has picked far more this time

Plus we have a mayor with a record of lackluster accomplishments despite the fact that everyone was willing to work with him. He failed...his record is on spotlight...we need to decide if we should continue with an incompetent mayor or choose a new mayor...we have four years to try a new out anyways.

March 23, 2005 12:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm a member of the Boyle Heights NC which my councilmember has not shown up in two years.

Just because you pick-up 6 tons of trash does not qualified Villariagosa for mayor. He should ask Mayor Hahn to appoint him to the Public Works Commission.

I beg Ace Smith, Meat, and Antonio Villaigosa personally to tell the entire city where are the 80 Neighborhood Watch Program he created? I called every Senior Lead officer in council district 14th, and they all say its a joke!

What major policy has Antonio Villariagosa pass at City Hall in two years ? ZERO

If, Antonio Villariagosa is such a great leader with a great vision ? why are following Councilmembers Ed Reyes, Jan Perry, Tom Lagone, Janice Hahn, Eric, Cindy, Smith, Zine, have all endored HAHN FOR MAYOR.

Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang.

Anyone, who lives in the city of Los Angeles the above endorements are the one that matter!

I know on thing Villariagosa is no great leader!

Finally, why should the voters of los Angeles trust anything Villariagosa say when he breaks every promise!

March 23, 2005 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All anyone has to do is think what this city would be like if we still had Bitter Bernie as Chief. Go onto the candidates websites and compare the two records. You can't tell me that Hahn hasn't done good things for this city. Antonio on the other hand has been pre-occupied instead of fulfilling his duty as councilman. Right now in council there was a motion on Neighborhood Councils. Antonio is on the Committee and he didnt' say a word. Why? Cause he has no clue what they're doing even in his own district and he took money from them. Why would he take money from NC's when he had money? And let's not forget that Antonio has already filed for 2006. Constituents have Antonio on tape stating that he would not run for mayor. Pleading for them to believe him. Shame on them for taking him at his word.

March 23, 2005 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon at 12:29 just said: "Elected officials aren't willing to work with Hahn or his staff cause they're incompetent."

Then suggested we "try" Villaraigosa out for four years... That is by far THE silliest excuse to elect ADV yet posted here. The people of CD14 have had the "pleasure" of trying out Villaraigosa for the past 2 years, and NOTHING has been accomplished. Why replace even a "lackluster" mayor with a LOUSY, LOUSY, LOUSY city councilmember? I'll take lack-luster over lacks- honesty, lack-integrity, and lacks-ability (ADV), anyday.

March 23, 2005 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Think about it 9 Council members who see Villariagosa everyday working are not impress because he's all flash with no bang."

I agree with your (repeated) posting there, Anonymous, but the part copied above is incorrect. Part of the reason the majority of the council are not endorsing ADV (a BIG part), is that they DON'T see him working everyday. He's been absent more than anyone (and had the MOST to learn about working for the city of anyone who won in 2003). He understands how the city works LESS than anyone, and just makes "crappy" little campaign speeches about high profile council votes when he is there. He had nothing to say about the NC vote this time, because he's done less work on Ed & Neighborhoods Committee issues than any of the other members (and that committee's meetings have been cancelled more times due to HIS absence, than anyone else's).

There was no way for him to turn this vote into another crappy little speech (so why bother); he didn't know enough about it to address it. Staff tells him what to vote on these issues, and he just sits back and looks for opportunities to grandstand for the audience, or schmooze with visitors who might give him money to run for yet ANOTHER position.

March 23, 2005 12:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I'll take lack-luster over lacks- honesty, lack-integrity, and lacks-ability (ADV), anyday."

No, no, that has to be the SILLIEST thing I have ever heard. Frankly, I don't care if your from CD 14 so lose the ID.

I care about when the hell my street is going to get repaved, or when the trees on the street are going to get trimmed or when we get to hire several more police officers to patrol my area, or when we can cut the noise at Van Nuys Airport or reduce traffic on the major intersection near my home

Gawd...this is becoming the CD 14 groupie blog. How about the rest of the 15 council districts. Where the hell are you people?

March 23, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The "rest" of the CD districts don't have a slimy conman for a councilmember that some political consultants keep trying to repackage as a potential mayor of a major city. They don't have the same "stake" in seeing this lying, carpet-bagging, walking ego get taken down, once and for all, so he won't abuse the city the way he has his own district.

March 23, 2005 12:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Try ADV out? What is this a mayor-in-training program for the politically stymied? He's had two years to learn something about how L.A. works, and he's spent important "class" sessions in D.C., Sacramento, and just about anywhere else where he can give a speech when he should be handling city business.

Let him go "learn" how to be a leader somewhere else. The only place he'll lead L.A. to is bankruptcy and civi paralysis.

March 23, 2005 1:01 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

I have to admit, 81 percent of the time, I read MEAT's posts to see how he's next going to malign the good people of CD14 that legitimately oppose their "honorary" councilmember for his poor performance (and sometimes just to see which new way he mangles my screenname, trying to be "clever"). But this time he's exactly correct when he says:

"...for all the Hahn bashing i do, i still give positive news on Antonio."

He is very consistent in these two areas: Hahn bashing (corruption, graft, pay-for-play) and Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa "positives" (ESPECIALLY 14th District accomplishments).

All unproven, all unsupported, all exaggerated. Perfectly consistent -- from start to finish, "innuendo" (and out the other).

March 23, 2005 1:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The whole concept of having Mayor Sam and Chief Parker "keep score" of endorsements after they've both announced they're pro-ADV (but mostly "dump Hahn") is pretty funny to begin with (hardly fair "referreeing" please!). Maybe we should ask MEAT to count the final votes for mayor on May 17, too (at home, uninterrupted). I'm sure he'd be just as "fair." We can all chip in and buy him some extra black markers, since this is going to be 2001, all over again.

March 23, 2005 1:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The reason why CD14 posts here consistently advising the others how poorly Antonio has performed in their district is because where else can people find out? The media completely ignores the obvious. I've spoken to reporters who tell me they know how bad Antonio is but their editors won't let them print the stuff. At least not yet. We know the Daily News and the LAT doesn't like Hahn. Yes, the Daily Breeze and Downtown News supports Hahn but its not considered a "main papers." The fact that 50,000 people did not vote in CD14 says a lot. Interesting that even though Antonio got 45% in CD14 like MEAT said he's going to have another push get the vote out campaign this Saturday in Boyle Heights. Could it be those recall people put the scare in him?

March 23, 2005 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Todays most laughable quote in the Daily News,

"People know that when I give my word I mean it," Antonio Villariagosa.

The nerve of this guy. Does he still think he's at a cheap bar hunting for one nighters. Does he really believe this? So I guess his contituents in the 14th District aren't "people" in his eyes. Neither is his wife, Corina. How many times has he given his word to her - Corina, should have stuck to your first instinct and stayed with calling the wedding off. I guess his son, who he used to abandon at Little League baseball fields in South Pasadena doesn't qualify as people either. How about the three other women who have beared his children? I guess they were never "people" in his eyes anyway. Oh yeah, let's throw in Hertzberg and Alarcon - and the list goes on and on. Yeeeah, that's the ticket!

March 23, 2005 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All that may be true, but here the halls were serious and nervous. We talk about our house payments and our careers with the city. We made some funny jokes over what we would do for a job.

March 23, 2005 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is a man with the absolute worst family values. Yet, so many people including politicans are saying "he's the best man with a vision." I'm shocked that all these people could turn a blind eye when it comes to family values. Corina never goes anywhere with Antonio. Where was she last night? Antonio has had more affairs then anyone in office, everyone knows it, the press knows it, and yet this is the person people are touting as our next mayor. How sad that our morals have gone down the toliet in this city! Could we possibly all be that crude in our thinking? That's ok for a man consistently cheat on his wife, have kids out of wedlock and be elected Mayor? What does that say about our own values? No wonder we are the laughing stock of other countries.

March 23, 2005 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, can you stop with the personal stuff on Antonio? I think he's an bad councilmember and he will be a bad mayor but I want to hit him on the issues not with how many women he's slept with.

The newspapers have abandoned the eastside - just like Villaraigosa. If he is mayor all he will talk about is the eastside while all the while giving in to the westside.

He has a really good con going all the time the westsiders keep away from the eastside and all the time the eastsiders don't go over to the westside.

Rcall people, take your message to the westside and see what happens.

March 23, 2005 2:48 PM  

Anonymous meat said:

FROM MEAT:

So i take the poster above is "pro hahn".

Antonio's wife has campaigned more than Hahn's wife, where is Hahn's wife?

She probably out with another former female staffer of hahns painting the town red,pink and yellow.

Antonio's wife went and kicked jim Hahn's butt at the Northeast Dem endorsement hearing, where was jim Hahn's wife?

Antonio's family are walking precincts and campaigning in every part of the city, where's jim hahn's family.

He must have more than just one sister?

blog away

March 23, 2005 2:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn has had 20+ years in public office to do something, but he has yet to come through whether it be as City Attorney or Mayor. He could have worked to stop the expansion of Sunshine Canyon Landfill and reduce noise at Van Nuys Airport. He has failed in getting the City's fair share of federal and state dollars. Your attacks on Villaraigosa don't mask Hahn's inability to lead this city.

March 23, 2005 2:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sadly Meat you are probably right that Antonio's wife walks the precincts on the weekends. But as you know, his staffers (they gossip more than anyone else), and many many of us know, Antonio will drop everything to be with a pretty young thing. He's proven it time and time again and had his people do damage control. History has documented that men sometimes can't control themselves when women are involved and have lost everything even their power and political careers for a dumb move with a woman. Can we say Gary Hart, Clinton (almost), Kennedy (almost)and so many more. Not that Antonio is in the same league as Clinton or Kennedy by any means. That thought is laughable although he quotes Kennedy.

March 23, 2005 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Since none of you on this blog like Hahn or Villaraigosa (basically all the CD14 people on here)I say we through in some write-in-candidates. How about Laura Chick or Wendy Greuel?

March 23, 2005 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wow, I just got a nasty e-mail from a NC that has been traveling the internet citywide trashing Alarcon. NC's are livid at him. He's just proved birds of a feather flock together. There's a video clip that's also being sent around that has some of Alarcon's coalition people who hate Antonio on TV clapping and now cheering for him. Aren't people simply amazing?

March 23, 2005 3:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The so-called "attacks" on ADV (i.e. proven "facts" about his dishonesty, lousy performance as a city leader, and inattention to his current job) are not intended to "mask" anything about Hahn, but UNmask Villaraigosa's inability to lead even one district of the city.

Hahn can't be "masked" -- he's been under attack from multiple challengers and the media for months. True or not, it's all out here (and very little has been proven, if any). But ADV has been skating, even though his job performance has been off the (bottom of) the chart since 2003. His work for CD14 makes Hahn look like an over-achiever as mayor, in comparison.

(And PLEASE, "20 years to do something"...) Even a con-man like ADV couldn't last 20 years without getting some things done for the city. If Hahn had been that unproductive for 20 years (ADV-style), he'd have been out the door a decade ago. What a bogus argument -- "20 years" and then you mention two recent issues in your backyard. Go beat up your own councilmember if things aren't getting done in Van Nuys -- that's what CD14 people are doing here.

Oh, but then people would say you "hate" your councilmember, because you expect results).

March 23, 2005 3:20 PM  

Anonymous meat said:

FROM MEAT:

I've always said richard was a good guy and last night he proved it.

I always said Bob was a good guy, and i think he will prove it too.

I've always respected bernard parks and i think he will show the city respect as well.

the people who post on this blog are funny, mainly because you guys are new to politics and don't seem able to grasp how this part of the campaign goes.

Alarcon and Antonio have known each other for 20 years, he knows a good man when he sees one.

March 23, 2005 3:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You do not understand how we think in city hall. Morals are fine, but we need our paychecks.A few of us staffers have been talking about how far we will go to keep a job with the city. It is a funny list. The jokes are halarious.We are learning to see Antionio's leadership skills.

March 23, 2005 3:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here's a good joke going around the corridors of city hall. Want to know what Tony's pick-up line is nowadays, "Come on honey, your supposed to lick the erection not wreck the election." Tony's still got it!

March 23, 2005 3:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Add the endorsement of county Supervisor Gloria Molina to the AV column. Yes!!!

March 23, 2005 3:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat I thought you were smarter than that. "Alarcon and Antonio have known each other for 20 years, he knows a good man when he sees one. You must be kidding! Alarcon attacked Antonio at meetings more then he did Hahn. Like someone said Alarcon has now become Antonio's Bitch. Ask all those radical activists who attended the 1st debate in the county. Alarcon has now proven to many he's a hypocrite, he's a backstabber and he has not balls. Antonio started going to church a couple of weeks ago. Playing the Bush card. The westsiders, valley and South LA will not want to know what a sleazeball he really is with his womanizing then pretending to visit the good Lord. I'm guessing in about 2 weeks all his escapades will come to light.

March 23, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That Lesbo endorsed him in 2001 so what's new? She has more baggage in her own backyard. People don't forget the County Supervisors allowed King/Drew to go down the tubes, took the Cross off the County Seal, sat on $309 MILLION dollars knowing full well Sheriff Baca needed it desperately to stop the early release of inmates onto our streets. Because of these loser superv. Baca is releasing over 200 inmates a day.

March 23, 2005 3:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gloria Molina's endorsement is about as valuable as her diet. All this does is open up Tony to all those contracts he slid to Ron Martinez, Gloria's husband while he served as Gloria's proxy on the MTA Board. When was the last time Gloria had a race, in 1991. And you know who did her vote by mail campaign - Nick Pacheco. Gloria has no base and her staff couldn't organize a tupperware party. What did that nutcase Ernie Sanchez get against her in the last Supervisorial election - 33%!

Another thing that this endorsement opens up - the Vignali incident. It was Gloria's husband who introduced Vignali to Tony. Hey Parke, how much money can Gloria deliver?

March 23, 2005 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. 29-year-old, still wet behind the ears/still wets his pants everytime ADV says "hello" says this:

"...you guys are new to politics and don't seem able to grasp how this part of the campaign goes."

Fortunately, neither does ADV, or his campaign staff. Remember the Maine, Remember the Alamo, and most of all, REMEMBER 2001.

(I was active in politics when you were still fetal tissue and your mother was flipping a coin trying to decide her "choice," MEAT). So, here's a helpful hint... any moron stupid enough to state publically "this is how... the campaign goes" has only been in ONE damn campaign.

Any REAL "pro" or even an active participant in any level of political life knows there is nothing "typical" about any stage of any real campaign -- not with millions of bucks being thrown at the situation from both sides, and ESPECIALLY now that third parties can throw tons of bucks at either party.

Sit tight, and maybe next election they'll let you eat some solid food.

March 23, 2005 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I remember the good old days when MEAT stated he wasn't an Antonio supporter but just a political consultant in the valley. Today MEAT admits he's doing his time on Antonio's campaign in Boyle Heights. I always said MEAT was a paid staffer huh Ulyssess?

March 23, 2005 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I love this blog. Some of you guys come up with the greatest lines.

Antonio's campaign letter to everyone.......we can't take anything for granted. We know this election will be close. We've got to keep fighting for every vote and making sure we get Antonio's message out.

Is there a message Antonio is trying to get out besides the fact that he is scoping for young women to use his charm on?

March 23, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BORE-ing, Supervisor No. 3 endorse's candidate #2, Sup. #2, endorses candidate No. 1. YAWN.

This stuff was all written in the script years ago. Why is getting the supervisor for the same part of the county that holds ADV's district meaningful (and WHY did she wait until after the primary?) Why did all these newbies wait, if they were SO sold on their new choice of candidates? Because they're NOT -- because its all just backroom dealing and lining up in "teams" the way they've ALWAYS lined up, and the poor slobs trucking to work out here every day know that. We take it all with 10 grains of salt. Most won't look twice at anybody's list of endorsements when it comes time to vote, because they know all these endorsements -- on both sides -- are "bought" with favors, past, present and future (many of them at a cost to the taxpayers).

Endorsements AFTER the primary are about as chicken-shit as you can get, in any case. Hell, WE had to pick from a truckload of candidates to vote for one in the primary, but our so-called "leaders" had to wait until the field was narrowed enough that they only had a 50/50 chance of losing face.

We're supposed to respect their last-minute coin-flip choices? No way...

March 23, 2005 4:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I noticed on the debate schedule one will be after next week at Cal State Northridge. How fair can that be when this is the same college a professor bused in students when AV debated Pacheco at Occidential College. This professor is an AV supporter. Then I see KJLH with Steve Harvey. This can't be true. I would much rather have Larry Elder. I'm sure Bitter Bernie will have his say call his pal Steve.

March 23, 2005 5:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Maybe Gloria endorsed Villaraigosa, but....over the strong objections of hubby Ron Martinez. Ron knows a lot about Antonio and if he doesn't want Villaraigosa for mayor we all should pay attention to that.

March 23, 2005 5:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any bets on what Antonio is promising everybody who is endorsing him? I'll start off with an easy one....

Jack Weiss. Antonio has promised to back arrogant Jack for city attorney in four years (or sooner if Rocky goes to Sacramento).

March 23, 2005 6:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ENRon Martinez is probably objecting because his dealings will soon become cannon fodder for Kuwata. But more than likely, he's not objecting at all and is just putting up a front. I bet he's standing in line with his hand out just like all the other Tony ass kissers. But one good thing is that Ron and Parke can't stand each other. During Tony's assembly race Parke even questioned Ron's sanity when Ron wanted to control the accounts. But Ron was, afterall, Tony's best man at his wedding - even the one that was called off. And Ron and Tony have a long history of snorting together.

March 23, 2005 6:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony has promised Jose Huizar the 14th District.

March 23, 2005 6:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait how could Antonio endorse Jose when he's already promised his flackie Alvin Parra to help him to run for CD14. Let's see how the media spins the Molina endorsment in tomorrow's papers.

March 23, 2005 8:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony also promised Victor Griego, MEAT/Ulysees' old boss, the 14th in 1999. The 14th is prepping for another grassroots movement. Too bad for Huizar, he could have been at the forefront of this just like Nick was in '99. As for Alvin, maybe he can get elected student body president at Wilson High again.

March 23, 2005 8:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For all his obvious political talents, I think student body president is still over-reaching a little for Alvin.

March 23, 2005 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How can you say these things about Alvin when he's qualified to be a member of Jackie Goldberg's kitchen cabinet? Doesn't that show some political sophistication?

March 23, 2005 10:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The one thing that I find funny is that 1/2 of the Villaraigosa haters who post on here will go straight up to him after the election and say "Oh yeah, I'm glad you won" while the other 1/2 will stay true to their words and be like "now that you're mayor, we're still going to be a pain in the ass to you".

Whether people want to admit it, those of you who fall under that category know that it's true. You've done it before, you'll do it again.

March 23, 2005 10:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To the last poster (10:27) I'm going to assume you are a Villaraigosa support and therefore almost certainly a Bush "hater". Will Bush haters forgo their federal pensions and/or other federal programs because Bush is president. Of course not. So, why should Villaraigosa "haters" not ask a Mayor Villaraigosa to fix their potholes or whatever. Villaraigosa supporters (Hahn haters?) have almost certainly availed themselves of the services a Mayor Hahn offered.

March 23, 2005 10:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well , all of this stuff is making me sick to my stomach. YOu guys make it sound like these people are the king of Los Angeles.

I aint going to kiss nobody's butt whoever gets the right ot be god king and potentate of los angeles.

SOmoen has to do the job.

But let's be honest , none of our councilmembers or the mayor ever will have a mandate from the people since the people don't vote. SO expect to be crapped on by whoever gets into office.

March 23, 2005 11:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 10:54, you misread my comments regarding what 1/2 of the Villaraigosa haters will do compared to the other 1/2. I wasn't trying to point out the fact that 1/2 of the Villaraigosa haters are going to demand that he take care of their needs, because that's what he should do.

I was trying to point out that 1/2 of those people are going to shy away from their comments that they either made in public/behind the scenes/on the blog, fix themselves up, and then show up to the Election Night Party or the Inauguration Party (*NOTE* - This is of course if Villaraigosa pulls off the win, which I think he will BARELY do) and start to try to make people believe that they were supporters.

I saw many people at the Inauguration Party of Villaraigosa when he won City Council and at his Volunteer Appreciation Party that fit that mold perfectly. Somehow, I think that they will make a re-appearance IF he wins.

March 24, 2005 12:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, Jimmy will be announcing a really big endorsement to go along with Hal Bernson! I'll give it to you at the end of this post.

All Antonio can come up with are pitiful folks like Yvonne Burke, Gloria Molina, Herb Wesson, Nate Holden, Laura Chick. Jack Weiss, Richard Alarcon,the Democratic Party and so on. The fact that Maxine Waters and Bernard Parks are pending means nothing. That Hertzberg is close to endorsing Antonio and already giving a "No" to Hahn means nothing.

Heck, none of these mean a thing compared to the really big stuff Hahn is rolling out.

OK, I can't hold back anymore. Here it is:



Janice Hahn will endorse Jim Hahn!!

How can he lose?


So, Anti-Antonio's, do I have it right???

March 24, 2005 5:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gotta ove Jill Stewart last night when she said that Hahn is the ony one that's been defending his record. She stated that at some point Villaraigosa will hve to defend his record as Councilman. What record? MEAT wanted to talk issues here's one. What has Antonio done in 2 yrs being on the Education and Neighborhood Committee? What has Antonio done to help the traffic as the Chair of the Transportation Committee? What has in done in 2 yrs besides community sweeps? ZERO. The debates will finally bring out the fact that this guy has been faking it for 2 yrs.

March 24, 2005 6:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To previous poster maybe the people who didn't support Antonio cared enough about their community to put aside differences and try and work with the councilman. Too bad he proved he's not worth it. They cared more than he did. Its just like Antonio supporters to try and spin. Lets put the issues out there and see who's record is better. Hilarious to see the 3 stooges Parks, Weiss, Antonio once again complaining and whining. Sad statement in LA that these are on city council.

March 24, 2005 7:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How are you going to defend Tony's record Parke. Tony may be as stupid as George Bush - although I'll give the edge to Georgie on this one - but you certainly aren't Karl Rove.

March 24, 2005 8:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Debate preview for Monday:

Hahn: "I'm proud of my record and I've made tough decisions that have proven to be the correct decision for this grat city!"

Tony: "Close your eyes everybody and imagine what could be - that's how democracy works. Plus if you close your eyes you might think I am John Kerry up on this podium!"

Will Tony get a booster a'la Dukakis?

Tony loses hands down because for those watching this debate - the people that Tony needs the most it's all about substance, substance, substance! Is it any wonder that Jimmy has said yes to all 8 debates while Tony is running for cover - like Bush.

March 24, 2005 8:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Retread at Galpin Ford

Today, the Mayor's schedule includes an endorsement from a San Fernando Valley leader.

Bert Boeckmann owns Galpin Ford, one of the more successful Ford dealerships in the county. He is certainly a prominent Valley leader.

The problem is - he already endorsed Hahn and has been listed on his website for months!

"The only new thing rolling out a Galpin Ford today are the cars," Villaraigosa campaign manager Ace Smith said. "Maybe next week, Hahn can hold a press conference announcing that he has the support of Janice Hahn. But I guess after barely surviving the primary, it's not surprising that Jimmy Hahn hasn't been ab;e to convince many new people to support him."

March 24, 2005 8:52 AM  

Anonymous Endorsements matter said:

One thing Hahn won't have this time is a lock on the African American community. Villaraigosa has Yvonne Burke, Herb Wesson, Martin Ludlow, Karen Bass, and Kevin Murray. He's likely to have Maxine Waters, Mark Ridley Thomas and Bernard Parks. That's virtually all the African American electeds. Then he has Cecil Murray, Bishop Blake, Henry Masters and Norman Johnson, to name a few, in the religious community.

Hahn on the other hand has Jan Perry as his only African American elected supporter. Then he has Leslie White and Mark Whitlock on the religious side. This doesn't appear to be much of a match-up.

Anyone care to to compare the SFV endorsement line up?

March 24, 2005 9:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony at the debates: I'd like to defend my record as councilman. Whoops! I forgot I don't have one.

Hahn: I've given this city the best police chief in the nation. I kept LA in once piece, I've expanded LAX the 3rd world's busiest airport, I wanted to give 320 more police officers but city council voted no, I put after school programs with LABest, brought back the Senior Lead Officers, provided Neighborhood Block Grants, given money for gang reduction programs, etc. etc. etc.

Host: Villaraigosa can you tell us what you've done in CD14 for the last 2 years?

Tony: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

March 24, 2005 9:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally, someone in the media get it! Jill Strewart yesterday on KCAL-Channel 9 said "Jim Hahn is the only candidate defending his record, and at some point Villariagosa will have to defend his on the CITY COUNCIL FOR 2 YEARS!

I'm blown away that Parke and Ace have decided to to make this campaign about JIM HAHN PUBLIC RECORD and CHARACTER.

Lets have a public and adult debate about both Villariagosa City Council (Remember Villariagosa you can take credit for any of Nick Pacheco projects" and Hahn Mayor record.

1. Public Record:
What has Villariagosa done in two years as a City Councilmembers to fix the following issue:

TRAFFIC: Villaigosa has NO public record or any motion introduced at City hall to deal with the issue of Traffic. He does not care about traffic issue base on his record.

CRIME: Villaigosa Council district 14th has the highest gang violence deaths in the city. He does not care because he voted against the 1/2 cent sale tax for more police officers for his district. ALTHOUGH he try stealing Greg Smith idea on how to hire more police. His public vote Villaigosa does not support safer street. He prefer to allow those crazy as gang banger to rule our streets, and eventually the city watch out San Fernando Valley.

AFFORABLE HOUSING: Has never introduce any motion or created a solution to solve the problem.

LOCAL ECONOMY: Once again has not introduce any motion to create more more jobs or attract any new industry.

PUBLIC CHARACTER: He's a lair because he broke his promise he would serve fours years as council members.

Antonio Villariagosa talks about going to Sacarmento and Washington for money to pay for his great vision?

I did not know that the ACLU Chapter Chair, The most Progessive LIBERAL, and MECHISTA has such a great relationship with George W. Bush and the Gov. Arnold! Both major Republican who hate the site of any bleeding liberal from California.

I know one fact MAYOR Hahn has access to both Arnold and Bush to share his concerns on behalf of Los Angeles!

March 24, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio had tons of endorsements in 2001 and he still LOST. When the media starts putting his experience as a councilman out there for everyone, who in their right mind will vote for him? I was at a community meeting in the Valley yesterday and when I told people he's done zippo and supports illegal vendors in his own community you should have seen their reaction. They had no idea. They thought it was suspicious that the media has yet to say anything about Villaraigosa's as a city council member. The word is beginning to spread.

March 24, 2005 9:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SAM - WE ARE BEGGIN' YOU.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE FIND A WAY TO ELIMINATE THESE MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE FILIBUSTERING ANTI-ANTONIOS.

ONE COPY OF THEIR DRIVEL IS MORE THAN ENOUGH, BUT THEY ARE EITHER DOING IT INTENTIONALLY OR THEY ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID. EITHER WAY, IT TURNS US ALL OFF. PLEASE FIND A WAY.

March 24, 2005 9:51 AM  

Anonymous Endorsements matter said:

The point is that in 2001 Jim Hahn locked up the African American community and that helped put him over the top and beat Villaraigosa. UNLIKE 2001, Villaraigosa has taken a key base away from Hahn. And this doesn't include the SFV who still has a great deal of hostility toward Hahn over secession.

Now with regards to their records:

Jill Stewart is correct that Hahn has been the only one defending his record but this is because he was being attacked at every corner, not to mention the level of dissatisfaction with how the City is handling (or not) problems. While the Hahn camp will try to list all of his accomplishments over the past 4 years, the real question is whether voters will buy it.

Do voters believe traffic is better? Affordable housing has increased? Do voters feel safer from crime? Do they believe the local economy is stronger? If not, Hahn is in big trouble.

March 24, 2005 9:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

endorsement matters said:

"Do voters believe traffic is better? Affordable housing has increased? Do voters feel safer from crime? Do they believe the local economy is stronger?"

Let's rephrase this and ask the voters of the 14th diistrict all these questions. If you line up what's been happening in the 14th District with the rest of the city, Hahn is a miracle worker.

As for whether or not endorsements matter, ask Gray Davis, or Victor Griego, orCruz Bustamente, or John Kerry, or Tony 2001, the list goes on and on. If they did matter, do you think Parke would be directing outreach efforts in Boyle Heights this Saturday instead of focusing on the Westside, Valley or South Central? Do you think Hahn is focusing on San Pedro? Something has got Tony, Parke and Steve scared. Wonder what it could be.

March 24, 2005 10:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To all you racist ignorant ranters:

I can't stand one more ignorant attack on poor folks without replying. Antonio has never said he supports illegal behavior - period!

The issue here is how the city handles its economic opportunities for poor people. Every city has street vendors - but I would much rather see my LAPD busting crack houses then tipping over fruit carts. None of those people out there dreamed of leaving their families in search of better opportunities to end up selling fruit or trinkets out on the street. That type of thinking is just plain stupid.

I applaud Hahn's effort for creating the Office of Immigrant affairs - but why did it take so long to come up with a job description and then even longer to try to find someone to fill it? Again - reactive vs. proactive.

There's something wrong when you make 50K a year and still can't afford to buy a home in LA. That's why these people are out there. When rent is $1500 for a two bedroom in Boyle Heights - it is I checked - what else do you expect people to do than to try to make ends meet?

The same way early Jewish and Irish immigrants began selling pretzels and roasted chestnuts in New York is what these immigrants are doing. In fact they're doing it in the same old Jewish neighborhood that a lot of these folks are forgetting their grandparents first started making a living in.

Look if you're racists your racist and you would never vote for Antonio no matter if he were the most perfect man out - which I will admit he is not. But please don't start with the fear mongering and immigrant bashing. Leave that shit to Moore and his illusions of grandeur.

March 24, 2005 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You say that Antonio has taken away Hahn's black base. FOR NOW. Just wait until they hear Antonio hasn't done a damn thing in 2 yrs and is using them as he did his own people to get Elected. I'm hearing the blacks aren't as convinced about Antonio as his spin doctors, Parke and Ace would like people to believe. There's a whole group that was 23% and still growing who supported Hahn.

March 24, 2005 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Of course Hahn has to defend his record. But so must Villaraigosa - and so far he hasn't. Because no journalist worries or cares about the eastside - and maybe Antonio doesn't either. His record confirms that fact and so does the fact that he has so few endorsements from the eastside.

March 24, 2005 10:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I love to hear all you want-to-be poltical hacks discuss strategy.

First thing you do in any campaign is determine how many votes you need to win.

Second you identify who is more likely to vote for you and go after them.

Third you go after the persuadables.


AV is not doing anything different than anyone else in his position would do. Why would you not start by mobilizing your own home turf and then moving outward? Is it because Hahn has not enough supporters in his own home turf to energize and turn out? Why is he not mobilizing the troops in the Crenshaw District? Has Leimert Park suddenly shifted to someone else? Where are the rally's in San Pedro - wait I think I here a cricket? Where is Kam directing the ground troops? Where are the legions of supporters you all claim Hahn has?

For all the love and support the Unions may have for Hahn -neither their leadership nor the majority of their membership can vote for him. Last time I checked Lancaster and West Covina are not neighborhoods in the City of LA but areas like these are where the bulk of the rank and file lives.

The union leadership not hte rank and file decided to endorse Hahn - that's why they can only get their few business reps to come out. It's not the same internal Union push as it was four years ago with Antonio. The Fed's phonebanks aren't blazing through calls and shop stewards have not rearranged work schedules to drive the GOTV campaign home. With 8 weeks to go, Hahn does not have enough time to indentify enough new voters to surpass Antonio's lead and momentum. Game over - Antonio WINS!!!

March 24, 2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Again Antonio supporters trying to spin. The vendor issue IS NOT ABOUT RACE. Its about hard working businesses in the community who have permits and are trying to make an honest living. They are going under because Antonio supports the illegal vendors who have no permits, make tax free cash, some who sell drugs off their carts and catering trucks. Why should these illegal vendors get off so easy? They are blight to the community and now that Antonio has allowed them to feel untouchable now they are overlfowing on the Eastside. You can drive by any part of the Eastside and see as many as 6 on one block. If you lived there making a hard living for your family would you want that in your neighborhood? You don't have these illegal vendors on the Westside and parts of Valley or even South. Why? Because those city council members do the right thing and have occassional task force sweeps. They send the message that if you're going to do business do it legally. Why should you make tax free cash? LAPD has more important things to do but these illegal vendors that Antonio supports engage in criminal activity many times. As long as they do sweeps the vendors get the message that you are not welcomed to disobey the law and get away with it. There is a city ordinance pertaining to vendors that should be enforced. If Antonio becomes Mayor (highly doubtful) the illegals will flood every part of this city and he won't do anything about it.

March 24, 2005 10:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just remember in 2001 Antonio was sitting pretty thinking and gloating the last week. Well, all of a sudden Boom, reality check. His escapdes of illegal activity came to light and it was all over. I predict again his unsavory experiences will come to light and once voters see the real Villaraigosa they will be so sickened he will lose again. You can run but you can't hide your past.

March 24, 2005 11:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Illegal vendors can also be a serious HEALTH issue -- one that can do great harm to anyone (regardless of race). However, it's Latinos living in these areas who are the most likely to consume and then be affected by food being prepared under such unhealthy, unregulated conditions.

To IGNORE their illegality IS racist and suggests that the city (and the city councilmember for that area) feels Latinos don't rate the same kind of protection from such health hazards as people do in other parts of the city.

I don't recall the last time I saw the city's "A" health rating card on one of these vendor carts (or ANY rating). So, do Latinos and others on the Eastside deserve less protection, ADV?

March 24, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:13 Anon posted:

"Antonio has never said he supports illegal behavior - period!"

Tony doesn't have to say it. His actions speak for themself. Whispers of drug dealing, attempted rape, knife assualts, mortgage fraud, etc.,are all over his home district. These are the people who grew up with him - they know the real Tony. Is it any wonder his base in the 14th District is eroding.

And to 10:35 Anon who said, "Why would you not start by mobilizing your own home turf." Isn't it kind of late to start mobilizing your home turf? Hahn doesn't have to mobilize Leimert park or San Pedro - it's already there for him. Tony's been running for mayor since 2001 and he still has to moblize his home turf? If you know anything about campaigning - as you say you do - then you would know that only a 400 vote increase in 2 years when you're the only hometown candidate would scare the daylights out of you. Try to spin it any way you can but Tony is running scared in his own district, and this after Hahn has already written that district off. Oooooooooh!, the recall boogeyman is around the corner!

March 24, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's not four years ago!!! Get over it. Its 2005. Everything is out except for the indictments against Hahn Administration officials

March 24, 2005 12:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is one of the fastest growing city's in the world, previous poster. More than 20 percent of the registered voters in this mayorial election have moved here SINCE 2001; nearly as many of those who voted four years ago have moved away.

Unfortunately for ADV, there's a whole "new" set of hundreds of thousands of voters in the city that will be VERY interested in the "new" information (to them), about ADV's sordid past. They've seen all the recent Hahn stuff -- Tony's dirt is "news."

New residents are also more prone to vote in their "new" home -- less jaded by the city's past elections. Boo Hoo!

March 24, 2005 12:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pure comedy...you should be at the improv on melrose

March 24, 2005 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's called an "ad hominem" attack, previous poster -- in case you thought you were "rebutting" the content in some perverted way. It means "I can't prove you're wrong, so I'll call you names -- because I'm afraid you're probably right and I want to do something, however impotent, to make others think you're wrong."

Look it up, laughing boy. They've got dictionaries at ADV's field offices don't they?

And check with anyone you know in REAL ESTATE about the turnover rate of city residents in an area as vibrant as L.A. (that stuff above - 20 percent - is probably conservative). One in five homes are sold every year X four years (minus) the people who stay within the city when they sell, then factor in all NEW homes. There ARE several hundred thousand new voters in the mix this time. (Did ADV's campaign forget to mention that).

March 24, 2005 2:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANonio has to reach out to the westside in order to make it known he is not only going to do things for those on the eastside ANd so far he may have sent this message , but getting the endorsement of the democratic party and MAxine Waters does nothing to bolster the conservatives behind him, actually he will lose lots of conservative votes. He needed the endoresement for the money , but the endorsement may well hurt him in the long run by alientaing republicans.

this race is about the westside white folks - whetherthey be jews or some other race-losing power and having their power diluted by the now plurality of latinos in Los Angeles. They need to reach out now to these people before they are left out of the fighting over others people money and the power.

Once Antonio becomes mayor prepare to see the seats of the city council at the next go around turn a shade lighter. You are looking at the dilution of the votes of the anglos all across los angeles.

If you are a white candidate running for office in Los Angeles , just the spanish last name of an opponent cna strike fear into you.

this is going to be the biggest challenge , controlling the pent up rage that latinos have towards those who treated them in sucha prejudice manner over the years. I hope whichever latino candidate makes it can bring every race together.
ANtonio won't be here for long thoguh as mayor , he will run for higher office in a couple years.

March 24, 2005 2:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THIS is what's known as constituent service. . . ADV! Get a CLUE, your term in CD14 has produced the WORST access for the districts residents since the last guy that faced a recall, Art Snyder. Take a few years off, learn how to help the REAL people in the city (with REAL solutions, like Hahn's 311), then maybe you'll be qualified to run for mayor some other time (maybe -- but probably not).

Hey, ADV, even your field staff knows how to help people in CD14. They just say "don't bother us - dial 311." HA! (Translation: "don't ask me for help, I work for an impotent CM.")

MAYOR HAHN, COUNCILMEMBER GREUEL ANNOUNCE EXPANDED 3-1-1 ACCESS


LOS ANGELES – Mayor Jim Hahn, joined by City Councilmember Wendy Greuel, today announced that even more Los Angeles residents now have access to 3-1-1, the city’s 24-hour, seven-day a week call center, through their cell phones.

Cingular Wireless, which was one of the first wireless providers to give 3-1-1 access to its customers when 3-1-1 launched in November 2002, now provides 3-1-1 direct-dial access to their newly acquired AT&T wireless customers. This new service gives thousands of new users access to over 1,500 city services with the press of three numbers on their keypad.

“I am so pleased that more Los Angeles residents now have direct access to 3-1-1 through their cell phones,” said Mayor Jim Hahn. “As we saw during the recent devastating storms, 3-1-1 was the number residents called to report flooding, potholes, landslides and fallen trees, and it was the number residents called to find out about road closures, city services and emergency preparedness. 3-1-1 truly is one call to City Hall.”

“By expanding the 3-1-1 system, we will make city government more accessible delivering basic city services where they are needed most,” said Councilmember Wendy Greuel. “Public-private partnerships like this can change the way the city does business, providing more services to Los Angeles residents.”

3-1-1 may now be reached through any cell phone that is serviced by Cingular Wireless (including former ATT customers), Nextel, Sprint and T-Mobile and dialed from within city limits.

"In partnership with the City of Los Angeles, Cingular Wireless is pleased to make 311 dialing available to its customers in L.A. Cingular customers will now be able to reach non-emergency police and other government services in L.A. by dialing the simple and easy to remember 311 number, " said Art Navarro, spokesperson for Cingular Wireless.

Callers outside the city of Los Angeles but within the five-county area – Los Angeles, Ventura, San Bernardino, Riverside and Orange – or any callers using a pay phone or non-participant cell phone can dial 1-866-4LACITY. If dialing from outside of the five counties, 3-1-1 can be reached by dialing 213-978-3231.

Currently, 3-1-1 is answering over 47,000 calls a month with over 7,500 of these calls coming from wireless customers calling within the city limits. During the recent storms, many hazards caused by the storm were reported to the city using cellular telephones, increasing the information needed by the city to minimize damages and injuries. 3-1-1’s call volume nearly doubled during the days affected by the storms.

3-1-1 is Los Angeles’ easy to remember, citywide toll free number that provides immediate access to city information, every city agency and more than 1,500 non-emergency services. Calls are answered 24-hours a day, 365 days a year by live operators. Within the Los Angeles city limits, residents can be connected to this service by dialing 3-1-1 from any residential or business phone.

People using cell phones serviced by Nextel, Sprint, Cingular or T-Mobile can also access the system by dialing 3-1-1. Callers outside the City of Los Angeles but within Los Angeles, Ventura, San Bernardino, Riverside or Orange counties can call 1-866-4LACITY to access the system, as can callers using pay phones or non-participant cell phones. Other callers can access the 3-1-1 system by calling 213-978-3231.

Mayor Hahn implemented the 3-1-1 system in November 2002 to increase the ability of Los Angeles residents to access city government.

March 24, 2005 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This blog exemplifies stupidity

March 24, 2005 4:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well they had to take 9-1-1 off the police cars in the 14th CD.

Los Vatos kept stealing them, thinking they were Porsches.

This, too, was Antonio's fault. He needs to bring back auto shop.

Impeach the bugger and bring back Pacheco.

March 24, 2005 11:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Post Antonio's record. Yup, he doesn't have one. 7 of Antonio's city staffers are on PAID leave of absence to work on his campaign. Guess who's paying for them? WE ARE. Amazing this blog has turned into an Anti-Hahn post all negatives on him. Antonio is not a supporter of public safety. He hasn't done anything or said one word about the homicides in his own district. Oh yeah, how could he when he's never in his own district. You have Gameboy Padilla as president of council, Jose Huizar pres of LAUSD, and not Antonio is touting being the firt Latino mayor then he'll get rid of Bratton and put another Latino Chief. You would all be ignorant to think that people would vote to make this city a Latino holding office.

March 25, 2005 10:01 AM  

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