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Thursday, March 31, 2005

City Beat editorial

Negative Approach
Los Angeles CityBeat Editorial

What exactly is the difference, really? Both Mayor James Hahn and Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa can be categorized as moderate-to-liberal Democrats, with many shared policy ideas and attitudes about the City of Los Angeles. They are more alike in their beliefs than not. We could have worse choices. But the mayor’s office remains in ethical disarray, and the challenger has momentum. What is an incumbent left to do but go negative? Very negative. Again.

That was the scene this week at Cal State Northridge during the first one-on-one debate between the two candidates in the mayoral runoff. Hahn’s administration is currently the subject of ongoing local and federal investigations into the lingering “pay-to-play” scandal, but it was the mayor who went on the attack in the name of integrity. He did so without hesitation or apology, noting his challenger’s various broken promises and bringing up yet again Villaraigosa’s letter asking President Clinton to pardon a convicted drug dealer. Even Villaraigosa seemed momentarily stunned by Hahn’s ferocity. This election is not going to be won easily – by either side.

Some observers like to suggest similarities between this race and the final showdown between Tom Bradley and incumbant Sam Yorty in 1973. But where those two city titans had many ideological and political differences – heightened by issues of race and inclusion – the things that separate Hahn and Villaraigosa are more subtle. Villaraigosa is well-connected in the Democratic Party and a more dynamic personality, while Hahn has used his experience as being part of a local political dynasty to make some unpopular decisions.

Most telling, perhaps, is how they’ve dealt with ethical questions. While Villaraigosa has expressed regret over his request of a presidential pardon for Carlos Vignali a decade ago – a story that grows older and less relevant by the day – Hahn has yet to fully explain or apologize for the currently unfolding ethical lapses around his administration. The mayor has not been charged with any crime or even implicated in one. But as the leader of the city government, he surely bears some responsibility for the problems that already have led to embarrassing investigations into members of his inner circle. Villaraigosa has assumed responsibility for his acts and moved on to work a positive agenda. It’s up to the mayor to do the same, or risk making our choice this election much easier.


Chief Parker's perspective: I don't mind campaigns that point out differences, policy differences, but today i read on Joe Scott's blog (former Tom Bradley press secretary) who comes to the conclusion that Hahn has begun his negative campaign. Not pointing out policy differences, but using "code" language for racist voters in this City. Hahn is using it, endorsing it and pushing that language to greater lengths than previously thought. I urge all supporters of Hahn to make sure that if there are policy differences, go for it, point it out. But using racist language that Jim Hahn has started to use is not tolerable or accepted.


Anonymous meat said:


I said it a long time ago -- Jim is not the son of kenny


But of course someone who rules with Gotti-like tendencies it's not surprising he'd look past his father for inspiration but Sam Yorty.

Blog away you Son of Sam lovers!

March 31, 2005 3:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT you answer on this blog but where's my answer on the 3-12 flexible work schedule for LAPD. Pussy, it tells me Antonio has no clue what the hell it is. He's afraid to go on the record. You want to talk racist Chief Parker tell Antonio's people who are telling everyone that he's going to be the first Latino Mayor, select George Gascon the 1st Latino Chief and get rid of Bratton cause that's what Antonio's buddy Bitter Bernie wants in revenge. Wake Up! This city is not ready for the illegal borders to open freely into Los Angeles.

March 31, 2005 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Anon 4:02,

Please take the sheet off your head; it's disgracing your LAPD uniform. What's the insistence on 3-12? Who the hell else but moonlighting cops cares? I'll repeat my previous post- I just care about whether there is a cop on duty when I need them. Go be security for a bingo game some where else.

Let's get back to real issues like the endorsement of "can't keep my hands to myself" Holden for whose BS we are still paying for.

March 31, 2005 4:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get serious... ADV's people are going to do their damndest to twist every legitimate criticism of Villaragosa's record as being "racist" and "coded" -- just to shut down ANY criticism.

Pompous empty-suited liars come in all races, creeds, and colors... (even good "reformed Catholics" who place their religion as a dodge for not supporting public schools). ADV is just the best known Latino opportunistic demagogue in the city today.

It's already started. . . One neighborhood council gadfly who supports ADV went all over the Eastside listservs a week ago -- responding to Steve Lopez's column about how to pronounce "Via-Rye-Gosa's" name -- saying "people who pronounce it WRONG are ALL closet racists who disrespect Latinos. (It's not even a REAL Latino name, dude - it MANUFACTURED!).

(Funny, though, then the same liberal-guilt-ridden ADV gadfly had to back down, admitting that HE had been pronouncing it WRONG himself).

ANY excuse to dodge his own record will do, for do-nothing ADV.

March 31, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 4:16, I don't know if the previous poster had a sheet over his/her head, but your have "sheet" for brains. The Holden endorsement is the subject of a different thread. Please keep up, you ADV-lovers are holding up the rest of the class with your attention-deficit meanderings.

"Can't keep my hands to myself" -- cute adapted from a Villaraigosa nickname in Sacramento, I'm sure.

March 31, 2005 4:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Can't keep your ideas for yourself," I think it was... they're MINE, ALL MINE. I'm the Speaker, I get credit for everything that passes through here!

March 31, 2005 4:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anaon 4:16pm loser. 3-12 flexible work schedule is a big issue with LAPD. Over 1,000 cops left thanks to Bitter Bernie. Now if your loser Antonio doesn't support 3-12 schedule then we will most likely lose another 1,000. Public Safety might not be your priority but its for the majority of LA. So again MEAT HEAD what is Antonio's stand on the issue of 3-12

March 31, 2005 4:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nate the Great, couldn't get any traction for Assembly or anything else, what's he add, except a record of costing the city mucho dinero for his sexual proclivities?

Jimmy got away with smearing Antonio last time and Antonio foolishly took the high road.

Not this time. The people are innoculated and they will not accept the usual Hahn smear campaign. This time it will backfire, and his career will come to a screeching halt.

It's over, Jimmy. Just go away.

March 31, 2005 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Simple request for Joe Scott or Chief Parker:

What are the code words and what do they mean?

March 31, 2005 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sister SAM takes the Negative road:

According to sources close to this reporter, MAyor Sam,s Sister City has taken a negative approach to the runooff season. With their accusations of negative campaigning attributed to HAHN and claiming that there are certain code words that reek of " Racism" sounded by the incumbent James Hahn during the debate LAst Monday, shows the proclivity of the blogging site and City Beat of again HAllucinating , such as the candidate on the City Council ANtonio Villaraigosa who of course is running against the incumbent MAyor JAmes Hahn.

Doctors all across the country are baffled at the inherent schizophrenia and schiotypal behavior being shown in the writings of these two sources of information.

" We have seen this form of mental illness amogst those who hear voices , see things , and read into things that are not there. . MUch of this is as a reult of projection on the part of the patient of their own feelings of guilt for using racism and accusations of racism to manipulate those around them. Medication of the psychotropic type may well help these writers , but it is a pervasive pattern , which my not be able to be helped by any sort of therapy or medication." doctors are saying.

We know that projection is defense mechanism in most cases where someone else is attributing thier own bad personality traits onto somone else. Thus we can conlcude that accusations coming from the Villaraigosa Camp are nothing but projection of their personality traits. In oder to deceive and hide their proclivity towards lying and socipoathic behavior.

ADV suffers from Borderline personality disorder with passive aggressive features . HIs having a diffrent identity whenever he is around a different group of people is a classsic symptom of the disorder.

March 31, 2005 6:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:50 ANON said:

"Jimmy got away with smearing Antonio last time and Antonio foolishly took the high road." All Hahn did was expose the truth. And Vignaly with all it's connotations is the truth. What "high road" did Antonio take. The one were he called it the most racist political race in history? The one were he said Jimmy was no Kenny? The one were he sent his goons (even if they were little goons like Marco Palma) to try and disrupt Hahn press events? Or maybe the one were he overplayed his hand as "the Latino candidate" - of course he took the high road without resorting to referencing race - right?

And what could those code words be, "gang injunctions", "15 murders in the 14th district this year alone", "ACLU", "Maxine",...

How about these code words that Parke has been throwing out, "corruption", "federal investigations", "1973", and now "Tom Bradley" - you forget, Bradley was a career cop, Tony is a career criminal.

March 31, 2005 6:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:50 ANON, wake up and smell the Villaraigosa-shoveled excrement. The only time ADV takes "the high road" is when he (finally) heads home to his hillside casa in Mount Washington. His campaign consultants couldn't run a campaign that didn't start with SMEAR, end with SLIME and have lots of leaky, smelly innuendo all in between. When was the last time ADV ran against an opponent that wasn't "dirty" and "corrupt" ALL during the campaign, then just miraculously was cleared of ALL claims and charges right after ADV won the race?

Anyone, anyone??? Didn't think so...

Coincidence -- not hardly! Tony's been leading a charmed life, but NOBODY is that lucky to ALWAYS run against "crooked" politicians, every time, every position. The only reason it all seems SO familiar, it that it's the only trick ADV's people know... call the OTHER guy corrupt, keep the gullible media busy chasing down leaks about the opponent's "crimes" (and maybe they won't notice or have the time to see that ADV is the slimeball).

HIGH ROAD? Ha! Not in what's left of ADV's floundering downhill political career.

March 31, 2005 7:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio is so desperate he's trying to throw out the "race card" aka Johnny Cochran. Antonio is the one touting the 1st Latino mayor. Those tv ads in 2001 were the truth.Plain and Simple. But Antonio thinking if he incites racism then he plays victim again. WRONG. Most Latinos weren't offended by those ads. They voted against him in 2001 and that's why Antonio lost. Don't insult us ANtonio. We're far more intelligent, educated and above your bullshit and that of your staffers. We know what true racism is and how dare you try and stir crap because you are desperate.

March 31, 2005 7:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Racist code words eh? I didn’t realize that I would need to buy a decoder ring for this election or do I find one in the bottom of a box ADV BS Flakes? Please continue to notify the rest of us of these ongoing events, as many of us intend on continuing to live on planet Earth.

Why not be a little more concerned that the City could be run by a man who helped run the ACLU. You remember them, the good guys and gals who work hard every day to make sure that Nazis and KKK members can march through any neighborhood in American and protect us from the Cross on the County seal (to think it had been there all that time – think of the children!). Who needs gang injunctions? ADV will make sure we all feel better about ourselves by protecting the rights of gang members. Remember in Los Angeles it is very important to feel good about things – never mind the real world impact of these choices. We can all rest assured that ADV’s ACLU background makes him the perfect choice for Mayor of the city whose gangs have literally franchised themselves across the country.

Voting for Hahn may not make anyone feel good, but at least one is not handing the keys to the City to an ACLU thug.

March 31, 2005 7:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sadly a true statment.Yes, it is because of the ACLU with Molinas support that the cross came off the county seal.

March 31, 2005 9:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, supporting the Bill of Rights is a bad, very bad thing; in fact we would be better off with out the silly document, it just gets in the way of what government wants to do to us. And we can trust the LA City government, just ask Jimmy and Janice. Jimmy and his sister would never stoop so low as to insist on protection of the rights of the people, unless those people donated to their campaigns or causes. Just look at Janice’s city website where she spouts her religious message. Why shouldn’t she use Government funding to spread her religious views, especially when she knows that everyone agrees with her, I mean it is not like is she's Jewish, Muslim or a member of some other “fringe” group that needs to be watched in case they step out of line.

April 01, 2005 8:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AT least Janice isn't a hypocrite like Antonio who was seen on TV last night taking communion. That guy has more mortal sins then anyone I know. The last time he probably went to confession was when he got married 25 yrs ago. Using religion and the good Lord for his political campaign is "Satan's work."

April 01, 2005 9:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, and I'm sure God has given you the authority to discern good from evil and to pass judgement on human souls.

And to the earlier blogger on the evils of the ACLU: you forgot to mention how the ACLU opposed the Patriot Act - you remember, the one that allows the government to invade your private life by tapping you phones without a warrant and even detaining American citizens without legal representation. Damn that organization! They're enemies of the State and supporters of terrorists. Is that about right, idiot?

April 01, 2005 9:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Isn't it ironic that Tony only became a "reformed Catholic" once the sex scandal hit the church. "Is that what being a Catholic is al about, heck, let me in on some of that action. I guess I've been a good Catholic all my life."

Parke, putting on the Catholic act for Tony is like playing with a house of cards. As the sex scandal pints out, even the church can take only so much hypocrisy.

April 01, 2005 9:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio is pulling a George Bush. That's how he got all those religious freaks to vote for him. Hahn has always gone to church so again Antonio is copying the Mayor and doing what he does. Great strategy especially if you don't have any ideas of your own like Antonio.

April 01, 2005 10:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:12 ANON posted

"Antonio who was seen on TV last night taking communion."

Hey, Tony, do you think that Father Morreta, the priest you lied to and Mahoney's right hand man on the right to life issue, will give you the Holy Eucharist. Be careful Parke, that will be a great press event - Tony being refued communion.

April 01, 2005 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To Anonymous : 9:12 AM, April 01, 2005

How do you know she is not a hypocrite? You may be surprised how her public side and private side compare.

April 01, 2005 3:14 PM  

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