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Friday, August 18, 2006

There's a Bad Moon Rising

If anyone thought the Neighborhood Councils were going to take an attack on them lying down, boy were they wrong. As one blogger put it - there is a bad moon rising.

For those of you who have been off the planet, or arrived in a turnip truck last evening; During a City Council hearing to discuss allowing Neighborhood Councils to formally refer matters to the City Council for consideration our old friend and current ass-clown of the week Jack Weiss decided it would be a super-genius move, in a room packed with NC members, to ask the City Attorney and Department of Neighborhood Empowerment for a report on any conflict of interest complaints against Neighborhood Councilmembers. Needless to say NC's were incensed for more reasons than one. Not the least of which was that the Ethics Commission has not ever once taken an adverse action against a Neighborhood Councilmember, but ironically they did hit Jack Weiss alone with 32 violations! This was a shot across the bow of the Neighborhood Councils and a set back for open and public participation.

However, the squeaking noise Jack Weiss heard that night was the Neighborhood Council tanks being pre-positioned. It seems the NC's are going to hit the City Council where it hurts, their term limit measure. Rumors are abuzz that some of the actions of the City Council on Wednesday, August 16th were brought on because Jason Lyon -- who spearheaded the council file issue -- also wrote the opposition argument for Measure R. Some skeptical neighborhood councils consider it to be a tasteless form of retaliation.

If any Neighborhood Councilmembers supported the term limit extension before Weiss's bonehead move, they don't now and they are placing the measure directly in the crosshairs.

Several Neighborhood Councils are now placing the item on their agendas, as has the Los Angeles Neighborhood Council Congress. Emails have been flying and some of the big guns are coming out to organize the entire system.

The key players are:

Jason Lyon (Silver Lake NC/912 Commissioner)

Jeff Jacobberger (Mid City West NC/912 Commissioner/LANCC Senator)

Jim Alger (Northridge West NC/LANCC Senator/LANCC Vice Chair)

David Hernandez (North Hollywood North East NC/Sun Valley NC/Former County Supervisor Candidate)

Louise Clarke Stone (Sunland Tujunga NC)

Looks like the City Council may have picked a bad time to recess. Who knows what will happen while they're gone?



Anonymous Anonymous said:

All I can say is that those bastards deserve everything they get.

They cut out public comment to 1 minute.

They ram through a Billion dollar bond issue.

And they ram through a term limit extension disguised as ethics reform.

And now this shit. No way are the NC's going to take this.

August 18, 2006 2:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here we go again with Weiss 32 violations. Read the finding. All the violations were considered minor errors with no real intent to violate the law.

If this is the kind of spinning we can expect out of NC's maybe a review of conflict of interest complaints against NC's is the right thing to do.

Why are Alger and friends so anger. Do they have something to hide. They should shut up and welcome the review.

Voters/Stakeholders have a right to know if members of Neighborhood Councils who advise on important issues in their neighborhoods are taking positions based on what is best for the community and not for their own pocket book or personal ambitions.

Weiss who is a representative of voters in his district should ask this question.

August 18, 2006 6:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Jack Weiss was the ONLY member of the council to OPPOSE the term limit extension. (He was out of town for the vote, but had spoken against it previously and said he would oppose it.)

Two of the biggest SUPPORTERS of the term-limit extension are Janice Hahn and Eric Garcetti.

So NC leaders are pissed at Jack, and in retaliation they are going to fight something Jack also opposes?

So NC leaders are grateful to Janice and Eric for supporting them, but they are going to go all out and oppose a measure important to them?

Great logic.

August 18, 2006 7:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is about finding wedge issues for future candidates Alger and friends. Alger wants money (a job) and power.

So we have a former jailbird Alger calling out a former U.S. Attorney Weiss.

Who do you trust; the jailbird or the guy that use to put crooks in jail?

August 18, 2006 7:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger...the man who can't hold a public service job for longer than 4 months (first-hand from an Alarcon staffer)

August 18, 2006 7:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Its good to see that the CD5 staff is on here bright and early spinning, while their boss is on McIntyre explaining why his office needs a foreign policy.

Mayor Sam your buddy Borg McIntyre is right to call out the Islamic wacko who jumped on Jacko, but Borg should have called out Weiss for his less than stellar performance at home.

August 18, 2006 8:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam,

You should know that Wacko Jacko and his staff realized they stepped in it and they've been ordered to blog here.

August 18, 2006 8:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There isn't a single pro-Weiss comment on this thread. So why would you think CD5 staffers are posting here? (Of course, they don't like him either, so anti-Jack posts could be from CD5 staffers.)

The only point anyone made about Weiss was that he, too, opposed the term limit extension measure -- so attacking it is an odd way to retaliate against him.

August 18, 2006 8:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GO GET THEM WHERE IT HURTS. Yes, I received 6 e-mails yesterday saying "the train is coming and will hit the clowncil members where it hurts." The Clowncil members voted against this because they are afraid NC's will make them look bad if they dare submit an issue their elected should have been working on. By watching the clowncil meeting you could tell who has bad relationships with their NCs. You see on the clowncil members staff start attacking Alger, Jason and the rest. Post about the issue morons not the messenger. WE ARE WITH YOU GUYS AND MOMENTUM IS HEATING..

You gotta read the DailyNews.com Opinion
POWER FREAKS Council shows more contempt for public will
FOR a year and a half, the Los Angeles City Council has been considering a proposal that would give neighborhood councils a smidgen of symbolic power. But on Wednesday, the council shelved that measure. Apparently even token community empowerment is more democracy than the council's members can stomach. This is a group that loves power and can't bear the thought of sharing it.


August 18, 2006 8:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Weiss' constituents can't get to City Hall to complain about him because they're stuck in gridlock at Santa Monica Boulevard. I wonder if he checked out the traffic situation in Israel?

August 18, 2006 8:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good mention Mayor Sam

Wat the hell is happening with the Los Angeles City Council? Readers of this blog will note that many of the writers here usually praise the actions of our civil servants, especially those of Council President Eric Garcetti (blogging.la article search). However, in the last couple months a trio of highly questionable moves at City Hall have me questioning why there isn't a larger backlash against them.

The issues at large:
Free speech restrictions, aka "Rules of Decorum" were proposed and agreed to by the City Council earlier this month that additionally limits the length of public comment, vaguely prohibits disruptive behavior, bans banners and placards from Council chambers, and a number of other unnecessary prohibitions.

Under the ironic shroud of "ethics reform" the City Council has proposed putting a measure on November's ballot that, if passed, would extend City Council term limits from two four year terms to three "to reduce the power and influence of City Hall bureaucrats and lobbyists." Other terms on the measure do indeed fall within what many voters would agree help keep corruption from City Hall, as you can see in this summary of the issue by Mack Reed at LA Voice.

On Tuesday the City Council held a special meeting "to consider a plan that proposes $41.3M in pay raises for cetain city employees and $10.4M more in retroactive pay." As Mayor Sam points out, the public was given less than 24 hours notice of this special meeting.

In these three actions, City Hall has portrayed itself as the epitomy of what people fear about politicians: slyly trying to extend their own terms and pay raises, while making strides to limit the public's right to address these issues.

August 18, 2006 9:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Watch out Mayor Sam, Jack is PISSED! He might just call ITA to turn off your cable modem!

August 18, 2006 10:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why would Weiss be pissed?

August 18, 2006 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For those of you too young to remember, Howard Jarvis was considered a gadfly - an absolute nut case! - by establishment politicians and the press and he changed the face of California with Prop 13. Paul Gann was just as crazy, but not as colorful. They did it with the help of talk radio - and Jarvis was usually on after midnight! Maybe the NCs can do the same thing in LA with the internet. Hypocrites like Weiss should be worried. Changer things have happened.

August 18, 2006 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fuck this blog. I'm gonna go read Defamer.com instead.

August 18, 2006 11:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Re-read "Charge of the Light Brigade" and get back to me Councilman Juan. . .

This is the Charge of the LIGHTWEIGHT Brigade.

Tell Alger to go home and see if he can even get his neighborhood council participation up to 100 people, total (down from 200+ last year).


August 18, 2006 11:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger himself has been silent here, since he was outed as having the suckiest NC turnout and outreach in the city.

Your blog "hero" turns out to be a near "zero" when it comes to really being able to pull public support.

Maybe even "negative" numbers?

(I ain't involved with Weiss, but if his people need this kind of info to shut up the little doofus from Porter Raunch, then have at it).

Mayor Sam's Blog has a long history of pumping up nobody's as real know-somethings... Chief Faker, Mayor Frank, "MEAT",
"Wacko" Walter (until they "rehabilitated" him as a blog monitor), Borg McIntyre. This is the HOME of fake know-somethings, and illegally parked car monitors.

August 18, 2006 11:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Worth repeating.

How dare you 6:24 pretend you aren't associated with the City Council. Well I suppose you aren't if you are truly delusional enough to think any body believes that Council members DISCUSS ALL ISSUES WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS before they vote? KNOW what they're voting on?? Either you are straight up mother fucking lying to cover your CC ass or you truly don't know how city hall really operates. Not at all.
You're going to call us silly harangues of nuts and near-nuts, neurotics and street vermin and then PRETEND that you aren't a council staffer? Shut the fuck up.
Welcome to the real world of the people elected by us to represent us. That name-calling disrespectful poster is typical of how they really feel about the public they represent. Your boss in city hall should fire your ass, no matter which department it is.
August 18, 2006 2:43 AM

August 18, 2006 11:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I found that on another thread about Zuma Dogg.

August 18, 2006 11:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This was worth repeating because ???

Because nobody read your rant the first time you posted it? Sorry, pick your spots better.

There's still no proof the person you're bashing is a council staffer, and since it was aimed at ME, and I'm a private citizen AND neighborhood council board member in good standing, you're both profane and a moron (oh, and also WRONG).

I haven't been in City Hall in YEARS, and am too damn SMART and dedicated to REAL change, to ever work FOR the city.

RISE UP, real honest-to-GOD NC leaders. You've been so busy trying to improve your neighborhoods and do REAL outreach, that you've let self-appointed NC FAILURES like Alger who can't muster 1 PERCENT of their NC residents to vote, "SPEAK" for you. These poltical simpletons are being quoted as speaking FOR ALL NCs.

WHY? More BAD, bad journalism.

Headlines say "Neighborhood Councils to fight term extensions."

NOPE, NOPE, NOPE. . . just a couple of wannebe losers, who spend all their time in NON-essential NC pursuits like the self-serving, self-sustaining (NOBODY-representing) "CON-gress" which has NO authority to speak for ANY NC collectively. Meanwhile PORTER RAUNCH and SILVERLAKE and other areas see NO real changes as a result of even bothering to HAVE an NC at home.

If they needed ANOTHER "city council" person there, one with NO power and NO authority, to spend ALL their time addressing CITYWIDE issues, they SURE and hell didn't pick these bozos to do THAT.

And the Review Commission is barely formed, and has NO mandate for this, so WHY are these few angry LOSERS, who want to run for office themselves suddenly the POSTER CHILDREN for real NC leadership?

Because they have big mouths, and spend NO time dealing with what needs to be done in their OWN neighborhood council areas, and ALL their time trying to ACT like real representatives.

Go home, fix things there, get more than a few dozen people to vote... then MAYBE (but probably not), you can SPEAK FOR all NCs.

August 18, 2006 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I do have to say that I did use to staff a councilmember and from my experience NC's are a slippery slope. They are a good concept and if they actually end up being a more representative form of government, then all power to them.

However, as some bloggers have noted...most NC's are led by big mouth's and squeaky wheels who deserve no mic time. Most of them just want to run for council and think that NC's will get their name out. Obviously, it does get their name out...but most of these so-called leaders do not realize that the general public notices that they are not fit for the council job.

Now does my previous comment suggest that I think that the current councilmembers are competent and suitable for the job. No, I don't and I think most of them are selfish and not fighting for the right issues. However, I do believe they have made a career of being relational and easier to work with, therefore their elected positions.

Most NC leaders at this stage of the NC movement are horrible and undeserving, especially the ones cited on this blog. NC's at this moment are not real grassroots and just another superficial representative body, at this time. I do think it has potential and that better-suited people will be in charge, someday.

August 18, 2006 12:43 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

12:08 anon - OK your rant is so off the wall I don't even know where to begin.

You haven't been to City Hall for years, but your dedicated to change. I am glad your representing the people that voted for you so well.

Alger can't muster 1 percent of the people to vote -- Since the minimum number of stakeholders for a NC is generally 20,000 I suppose you had a turnout of 2,000 or better? (Now for Assembly I did pull 30% in a 4 way race and lost by 4% so keep that all in perspective.)

I am president of NORTHRIDGE West, not Porter Ranch so get your facts straight.

Since you have never been to City Hall, I also assume you have never been to the Congress so you really have n clue as to what goes on there.

As for local vs Citywide -- perhaps if you were involved you would have a clue as to what you are talking about.

All day long I deal with local issues, whether it is as mundane as getting curbs painted or dealing with local land use. Don't pretend for a minute to know what I do. I have dealt with 2, out of the hundreds, 2 "citywide" issues. The DWP and the NC File issue.

In fact one of the things I am best known for is the defeat of Wal Mart in Northridge... A LOCAL ISSUE that had Citywide implications.

I didn't hear you complaining about my involvement in Citywide issues when I was busy saving YOU 18% on your DWP bill.

Noone should "act" as a "real representative" they should BE one. That is what you were elected to do and if you don't get that perhaps you should reconsider your position.

The least you could do is read the Charter, the enabling ordinances and learn what your supposed to be doing. NC's aren't a club or a homeowners group. They are elected representatives of their districts. If what you say is true, it is high time you start acting like one and quit trying to take cheap shots by speaking about things you know absolutely nothing about.

At least now I know why you attack me under anonymous. Your constituents would throw you out on your ass.

August 18, 2006 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Everybody.... deeeeepppp breaths...

Let's put this all in prepective.

1. Weiss was the sole voice of opposition to the term limit extension.

2. Notwithstanding the 'symbolic' NC ability to itemize and propose legislation with a 'real' and 'bonafide' council file number, truth be told it is a wacky idea, in that during the last four years most NC reps can't get their act together.

I will loudly proclaim that you have a few bonafide leaders (among the thousands of NC 'officers'), but the majority are wonderful people that are giving their time to their communities and should stick to it - IN THIER COMMUNITIES!

If they want - it's a free country - run for public office. Alger thankfully can't or won't because of a criminal background... but others could and if they feel strongly should.

3. Weiss has been the sole voice of reason on the council in areas where it counts (i.e.public safty, streamlining red tape at Building and Safety etc.)

4. Besides Weiss, absolutely NO OTHER Councilmember has visited or been concerned with the young police officer that was shot on Saturday night that's been fighting for his life.

5. It was Bitter Bernie Parks and Eric 'I'm President' Garcetti that shoved the one-minute rule down our throats.

6. As a former NC Representative, I have met truly great leaders, but they are far and few between. In the NC that I was part of... if a cute girl or guy made a presentation about a building project - it always got the votes they wanted. If on the other hand it was an 'undesireable', suddenly the issues of traffic and crime and parking became important.

This was one of the reasons I chose not to run again.

7. Back to Alger for a moment... Word has it that the DWP dropped a pretty penny on his 'rescue missions' to Katrina. Other potential targets of his shakedown also donated handsomely so that he could live for the last year without a job.

I'm sorry to say that he is FULL OF SHIT and is a carbon copy of Tony Mohammed that rips off major consumer chains with the threat of boycotts.

August 18, 2006 1:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We need an intergrity check on Neighborhood Councils. How can a person like Alger continue to claim he represents the community when he has less than 1% of the community behind him.

How come I have to learn this from bloggers and not the media or even Mayor Sam.

The last thing we need is to add another elected body to LA's political structure that serves its own interests and not the interest of the Community.

If Alger received less than 1% of the communities support and has since failed to do the appropriate outreach, he does not speak for the community.

August 18, 2006 1:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Um, 1 percent of 20,000 isn't 2,000... moron, it's 200, All-grrrr (no bite).

200, just 200, that means only one person had to show up from every 30-35 homes in the council area... but no, you could BARELY get one person to vote out of every 100 homes in your NC area.

200 votes is TWICE (no, nearly THREE TIMES) what your WHOLE NC BOARD got in votes.

79 votes, out of 20,000 residents, (plus all those thousands of other stakeholders who only "work" or just "own property".)

Not ONLY a fake representative, a math moron.

Um, again... from your own NC Website:

Northridge West Neighborhood Council, "Serving the Northridge/PORTER RANCH Ranch Community" (emphasis added)

Can't add, apparently can't even read, doesn't even know what communities are in his OWN NC, can't get votes at home, can't do outreach, can't, can't, can't. ..

Big "L," little "o-s-e-r."

But he's a BIGWIG in the self-appointed NC "CONGRESS" -- a SEN-ATOR, mind you, in a group that even LESS representative of the real people of the city than most NCs.

I pity the fools in Northridge West.

Keep screaming about who's anonymous -- but YOU, Alger, are apparently UNKNOWN to 99.6 percent of the stakeholders in Northridge West, who didn't even bother to vote for (or against you).

OH, add in the just "work" and just "own" and your probably closer to invisible to 99.9 percent of your stakeholders. Now THAT's what I call ANONYMOUS (and unworthy of speaking for your own community).

Next time you speak to City Council, or the newspaper, be HONEST... tell them you REALLY only speak for a tiny fraction of less than 1 percent of the people in your relatively small NC of 20,000, and see how long they listen.

(I now this math is too tough, sorry, it had to be reported).

August 18, 2006 1:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Goody-goody that you got a large minority vote for assembly, Mr. Alger.

When the topic, or measure comes up about term limits for state offices, check back.

It's pretty plain, however, that as far as the CITY of Los Angeles and neighborhood councils are concerned you and your NC are MAJOR under-achievers.

If you were an LAUSD school, you might end up on Antonio's special "watch" list soon, (but it might be kinder to pull the plug, in this case).

August 18, 2006 1:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(I think Alger went out to buy a new calculator.)

"Carry the one, divide by double-ought, multiply the 11-sies. . . DAMN, and here I thought I was POPULAR!"

Sorry, Jethro, no "bad moon rising," just bad ciphering and even worse outreach and stakeholder communication.

How the HELL do you know what the people of your NC want, if they're never involved in your NC work?

Maybe they all want FOUR-TERM term limits? Maybe they want NO term limits?? Maybe they DON'T want you and your mandate of 76 PEOPLE (plus two more NCs with equally bad outreach) deciding what goes on, and clogs up City Council agendas??

You never WILL know, when all you meet with at "congress" and "alliance" is the NC "leaders" from other advisory boards that can barely scare up 200 votes themselves, in much LARGER council areas.

August 18, 2006 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Psychos posting Mayor Sam. Let's see 11:41, 12:08, 1:09, 1:16, 1:17 all sound like the same person.Who would know Weiss Ass visited the officer except his inner circle. BUSTED, a Weiss Ass groupie or staffer. Its obvious that attacking Alger is proving what everyone citywide is saying, "the clowncil members are running scared. If they demean the messengers then its lends cred to their elected. WRONG. Stop attacking Alger after all is he a VOLUNTEER. Doesn't sound like any of the fools posting have done shit for their community. Weiss Ass and the clowns are in deep shit. I've read several blogs todayu and the word is support your NC and campaign against term limit extensions. Blogs are posting the shit Clowncil members have done all year.

August 18, 2006 2:14 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

It's true. The Clowncil kool-aid drinkers seek to attack the messenger because they can't attack the message.

Forget Alger, it could be your own sainted mother blogging and they would engage in the politics of personal destruction. Lets lie about Alger, dredge up his past or just call him insignificant, because we can not address the issue at hand.

Today it's Alger, yesterday it was Zuma Dogg. Its all the same crap from those who have learned to suck at the public trough and they're using every thing they think they can muster to forestall the quiet revolution. Today, its slams on the blog. Who knows, maybe next they'll send the LAPD to your house or just happen to have DWP have an "outage" in your area.

In the end, it won't work. Its too late. We have blogs and you tube and channel 35 to get out what once was secret. Matt Dowd can take his digital handycam to council and have the antics on You Tube within minutes. Once in a while, the traditional media will pick it up. And it gets out there.

And as this city falls apart, as the middle and working class are targeted, as we continue to allow illegals to flow over and turn the place into Calcutta, people will get more and more pissed.

And they will look to folks like Zuma Dogg, Alger, Jason Lyon, Dave Hernandez, etc. You might think those guys kooks. But they've been watching you - and they've done their homework. They may not hob nob with Eli Broad at the Disney, but since everything changed, it no longer matters.

No wonder the staffers are running scared.

By the way, I am sure your response this will be to call me fat, so feel free. However, I've dropped about 25 pounds since July so at least call me not so fatboy.

Have a good day.

Mayor Sam

August 18, 2006 2:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're not fat, Mayor Sam, you just don't represent anyone but yourself, too.

The good thing is, you don't claim to "speak" for a whole 20K people like that fraud Alger (with his 76 VOTES. . . and that's assuming NO ONE ran against him).

Yikes, do suppose he's even LESS significant than ONE THIRD of ONE PERCENT of the stakeholders in his NC. How can you be LESS than that?

Was there a challenger for his position???


If you think this is attacking the messenger, guess again. This is REVEALING that the messenger claims the "message" is from someone it's not.

So what's going to war against Council over term limits, because they voted down your file issue?

Well, that's the political equivalent of holding your breath until you turn blue, or lying down in the floor at the supermarket, screaming, because mom won't buy you candy.

ALGER and company chose to say City Council was IGNORING it's constituents.

ALGER's sin is even worse. . . not EVEN going to his OWN constituents to ASK what they want (except for 79 of them!), when given $50 THOUSAND DOLLARS to work with.

Why don't you do outreach when you have that kind of money to spend. . . BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW what those other 19,900 people want (it might keep you from trying to upstage City Council).

That's bullshit hypocrisy, and THAT messenger deserves to be shot for failure to consult, at best.

And he's only one (don't make me go back and see how FEW votes these other "DEFEAT TERM LIMIT EXTENSION" NC loudmouths actually got. 100, 200 each, maybe 300 for the REALLY aggressive ones.

I'll bet you add them ALL up and it's less than the person JACK WEISS beat to get on City Council in the first place.

August 18, 2006 3:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


And because one poster put up five messages (not true, they're not all from the same person), but if they did, that means... they're "wrong," by your logic.

GEEZ, can I be YOUR partner in the next intramural debates in the quad?


One was the same poster that outed Alger as having one of the worst NC involvement records in the city (meaning he represents no on, basically).

That's a "public service announcement"!

August 18, 2006 3:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's a little trick that NC leaders play (Greg Nelson talks about this some), and it's actually their own homemade version of defacto "term limit extensions" without all the hassle city councilmembers are going through.

Get yourself elected when NC involvement is low - easy if you're in on the ground floor as an organizer - then make sure you keep involvement low (in the case of Jim Algers council, make it even lower the second year), by doing no outreach and no candidate recruitment.

Just ride under the radar. Then you can claim to be some kind of "official" and don't have to risk actually being defeated next year. Even if your local council has some kind of term limits in the bylaws say 2 or 3 terms, then you just run for a different position after that. From regional representative to business rep, to "charity" organization rep, to whatever.

And, if any complains, you just cry about how 'no one else wants to run' which translates to, 'this is the best kept secret in our part of the city' -- heck, the Jaycees get better turnout, on half the budget.

Would anyone accept that for real city council offices?

August 18, 2006 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam said:

"And as this city falls apart, as the middle and working class are targeted, as we continue to allow illegals to flow over and turn the place into Calcutta, people will get more and more pissed."

let's all note that the underpinnings of this so-called populist, power-to-the-people movement is nothing more than hatred and racism.

illegals turning the place into Calcutta? please, Mayor Sam.

Should we assume that all of these "heroes" of the NC movement agree with that statement? Does Alger agree with that? Does Jason or Jeff? I thought all these people were Democrats. Let's hope they have the guts to distinguish themselves from this anti-immigrant rhetoric or their next run for office as Democrats will be colored by this weakness...

August 18, 2006 3:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger, Jason, and Jeffrey should come on this blog and publicly distance themselves from Mayor Sam's "calcutta" statement.

If they don't bother to do so, we will know where the NC "leaders" stand on immigration.

August 18, 2006 3:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WOW, what a pair-o-dimes shift this blog has taken in just a year.




for one of Mayor Sam's much heralded blog action figures.

August 18, 2006 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Longtime reader occasional blogger,

Mayor Sam's blog,

By Me:

I like Mayor Sam, I like Jim Alger, but they don't seem to realize that mainstream reporters really don't read this blog anymore.

The time this blog got major media coverage, and Mayor Sam will agree is when Chief Parker exposed a real news story and Mayor Frank sent out a media alert to the newsworthiness of it. Wah-La it got covered, even CNN. However, by actually exposing the shenanigans of City Hall Mayor Sam drew the ire of Steve Hymon over at the LA Times. You see during 2005 this blog actually covered very nuance events that beat reporters were not picking up on because they are STUPID. So when the blog popped in hits and exposure the LA Times went on a 5 week investigative journey to expose the blog. But according to those news stories there were 10 different bloggers, and the Times never got to really bake the entire story since Mayor Sam and Co outted themselves.

Now with Mayor Frank gone, there is no one blogging on here with real "inside" knowledge of City Hall. And with the threat of the LA Times trying to "out" anyone who scoops them the relevancy of this blog has gone away.

Now it's cool that NC members are using this blog to vent, but just know the audience of this blog is not the same as it once was.

August 18, 2006 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big Duh!

August 18, 2006 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:30, guess what? The city DOES accept that from the real city council offices. How many total people came out to vote for mayor? That small percentage of people was larger than how many voters the average city council race pulls in.

August 18, 2006 4:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pssst, psst pssst, what's that you say?

Jacobberger's MID CITY WEST NC (with nearly 3 TIMES AS MANY stakeholder's as Alger's Northridge one) only had 51 PEOPLE VOTE in the last election... a decline in participation from the previous year of what?? 90 PERCENT (why bother to even HOLD an election... just declare yourself El Presidente for LIFE!

Only 51 PEOPLE out of 55 THOUSAND stakeholders (more math... ) that's not even ONE-TENTH of 1 percent turnout. (Actually makes ALGER look pretty good -- but only in comparison).

And Lyon's Silverlake NC's voting has been slipping 15-20 percent every year for the past three?

Who are these YAHOOS screaming about City Council members not listening, not taking NCs seriously. It's the NC leaders THEMSELVES not taking their council's seriously. Letting participation in an election drop 90 PERCENT from over 500, to only 51?

NC Nero's are "fiddling" with city-wide issues, while their stakeholders are YAWNING and going home early.

No guts, no glory. No mandates, no respect.

GO HOME, bozos! Fix what left (before it ain't!)

August 18, 2006 5:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Bullshit... give Alger back his broken calculator, you're getting drool all over the keys.

You're off by a factor of 10X, at least!

August 18, 2006 5:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The point is the City Council inspires a low voter turnout but Neighborhood Council turnout is even worse. That indicate an incredible lack of support for these clowns and Alger is the biggest Bozo of them all.

Where is a Times investigative reporter when you need one.

August 18, 2006 5:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


4:53 obviously WAS obviously Alger, and he still apparently can't learn where the decimal point goes.

Bottom line, in the very worst-turnout City Council race in the city, the current sitting councilmember for that district easily received 10, 20, 30 times as many votes in any given community in that district, as the NC board members from there have, even if they broke the bank and pulled out 1000+ voters (only a handful have).

That's why NCs "advise" only. Want something on the Council agenda? Take it to the man or woman in that chair and say "pretty please," we think this is a good idea that will help your district, our city, etc.

Bundling up the suggested motions of 3 disparate, unequally elected NCs put at the table by a tiny fraction of their communities, all in order to go AROUND that core representative process, is a crime against democracy.

August 18, 2006 5:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger -

You got 28.8% of the vote compared to Shaw's 33.2%. Thats 4.4% difference. while Lowenthal got 24.1%, a different of 4.7%. Don't brag about your votes...ever. The only reason you didn't get pasted was because of Lowenthal splitting the female vote (and yes idiots, women vote for women most of the time...its a fact...get over it)

August 18, 2006 7:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NC's again! How did we ever do without them. After all they put trees on the boulevard, flower pots on poles, they buy little hats and t-shirts with the names on them, they putup banners and signs advertising themselves and we all get to finance this wonderful use of tax payer money. Gee, I wish they had more power. If they could introduce Council motions, they could vote themselves even more money to spend on these crucial projects which couldn't be done without them.

August 18, 2006 7:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If anyone suffers from overexposure, it is the metrosexual Jason Lyons. Mayor Sam, it's one thing to put your head up Jim Alger's ass. The only people who cared were the Shaws and Waldmans of the world.

But to continually praise Jason Lyons? You gotta me kidding me. He's just counting the days until he becomes a councilmember. Do you really think he wants true change? Or just a platform on which to campaign?

Keep in the spotlight Lyons. Its th only surefire way we can all expose you.

August 18, 2006 7:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The more I read these postings and attacks on Alger the more I and many others citywide are convenienced that Weiss Ass and the CLOWNCIL MEMBERS are terrified of the NC's if they organize. LA TIMES have shit lazy ass reporters and YES they do read this blog. Laobserved and lavoice both mention Mayor Sam and we all know the city hall staffers are told to monitor this blog for dirt on their bosses. So you idiots who keep posting all the negative shit on NC's and Alger or any of the guys with bigger balls then you, you're just proving our point that the NC's are on to something and just today a very hugh meeting was organized for regular people to meet this weekend and discuss the CLOWNCIL MEMBERS and why everyone should VOTE NO. Word is spreading like wildfire.

August 18, 2006 7:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I forgot if Mayor Sam is getting that much mention on other blogs and people are hitting this site whether they are posting or not THAT'S A POSITIVE BIG TIME. You morons keep coming back on even though you keep saying what a waste it is you still post morons.

August 18, 2006 7:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This letter says it all about our electeds. Our taxpayer dollars are being spent on their high salaries, (they're getting another raise in Jan and will be highest paid in country), cars for electeds and their staff plus gas, tons of staffers, cell phones for all of them, many perks, etc. and this poor officer has to struggle because she risked her life for this city.
After reading the article about Officer Kristina Ripatti, I am angry to no end. We have money to give perks to all our council members, have money to fly the mayor anywhere he wants, money to photograph them supposedly doing what is good for us, yet this officer has to have fundraisers to fill in the gaps where the insurance doesn't cover.

I'm appalled, disgusted, mortified and every other word you can think of to mean "I'm really mad." We should have enough insurance to cover this kind of injury for all our officers for as long as they need it and for whatever they need. With this kind of support, it's no wonder we can't recruit enough police officers.
- Morris Caraway
Van Nuys

August 18, 2006 8:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A paragraph from this week's City Beat makes me wonder if Mayor Sam is making an illegal contribution to Walter Moore's mayoral campaign. How much does MS site rake in from the ads that keep popping up every time I read here??

"It was warmly encouraged by KFI’s right-wing radio shoutfest, The John and Ken Show. The L.A. duo, godfathers of the Gray Davis recall, held several “Fire Dreier” rallies outside his Glendora field office, had Matthews on regularly to discuss her immigration stance, and dissected the congressman’s statements to other media outlets. The John and Ken hi-jinks, no joke to Dreier, led to the filing of a Federal Election Commission complaint by the Republican National Committee against KFI and its owner, Clear Channel Communications, alleging that the hosts were making an illegal contribution to Matthews’s campaign."

August 18, 2006 9:47 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

OK you guys are really getting desperate.

FIRST OF ALL Regarding "Back to Alger for a moment... Word has it that the DWP dropped a pretty penny on his 'rescue missions' to Katrina."
Really??? When was this? You have any PROOF??? Of course not! Why? because it never happened! Voices in your peabrain don't count as "word is".

SECOND -- which one of you ingrates is seriously trying to compare a City Council election with an NC election>??? ARE YOU FOR REAL???

City Council spends MILLIONS on their campaigns for a municipal election that is covered by free media for MONTHS leading up to the election day. NC's get a miniscule budget to send out 20,000 mail pieces.

You idiots are seriously grasping at straws.

Thirdly, I wasn't even up for election this year so get off my back. Outreach for elections ... ALL ELECTIONS is done almost exclusively by the CANDIDATES running. The candidates that ran chose not to campaign. It isn't my job to campaign for them. It is my job to let people know an election is taking place. I did that. Period. When and if I run I guarantee there would be higher turnout. Why? because I campaign.

Lastly, this "criminal background" crap is really getting old. I didn't fill out a form right at the DMV over 10 years ago. That's the best you can do???

Spin spin spin but let me clue you guys into something.

You started a battle, the Neighborhood Councils will finish it. Not me, not Jason but the system. All you clowns have left is spin every 3 minutes on Mayor Sam and the more you spin, the more you attack, the more you show just how scared you really are.

August 18, 2006 10:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City Charter Commissions should have created equally structured Boroughs run by paid men and women who were duly elected by registered voters just as in the Los Angeles City Council.

One Borough should have been created for each of the seven Planning Districts and each Borough should have had an internally selected representative as a full Councilmember sitting at the City Council with equal City Council voting rights.

Wendy Greuel tried for Boroughs and was pretty much ignored.

Instead we got what is currently both a nightmare and a joke; advisory-only, stakeholder-elected Neighborhood Councils whose intended primary purpose was to disperse information through early notification to the stakeholders, and whose secondary intended purpose was to let the City know what services are needed within the self-designated NC district. (See "Grassroots Guide" written by Greg Nelson - Greg should have taken a look back at it before making his incredible decisions during his dubious rule.)

NCs attract crack pots, persons with personal agendas, and people who are looking for a social life.

They are not necessarily honest, intelligent, knowledgeable, capable, caring, professional, or courteous.

Those who are sincere, and even some who are not, work their hearts out - hours and hours per week. They are volunteers with full-fledged lives in most cases.

And guess whose phones rarely ring any more and whose problems have literally declined by what, 90%?

Bingo~! The problems and the accountability have shifted from the Councilmembers to the NCs.

It was about appeasing Successionists. It was about promoting the so-called Smart Growth Urban Villages. It was about Dumping those Interminal Community Problems back on the community. It was about Keeping the Activists Busy, Unaware and Out of the Councilmembers Hair. It was about Freeing the Councilmembers to Scheme, Prey, Grab, Accumulate, and Develop.

August 18, 2006 11:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:17 Pm ANON (of course)

The election Alger was in for NWNC had nearly 300 voters out of 18,000 stakeholders. I do believe that is well over your 1% bullshit number.

You must be referring to the election Dennis "I couldn't be president so I quit De Young" was in where he couldn't even get 75 people to vote for him.

Get your facts straight.

August 19, 2006 12:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sex Offender Charged With Lincoln Heights Murder


August 19, 2006 1:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Firefighter Accused In Woman's Death Out On Bail
LOS ANGELES -- A veteran Los Angeles firefighter suspected of killing a woman whose nude body was found just blocks away from his Eagle Rock home was released on bail, police said Friday.
The 50-year-old firefighter, a 23-year LAFD veteran, was questioned at the LAPD's Northeast Station before being arrested at about 3:30 p.m. Wednesday.

"We will have to wait for the coroner's examination before we know how the woman died," Lt. Paul Vernon said yesterday. "There is no doubt, though, that she was a victim of foul play."

Deltoro, who was assigned to Fire Station 1 in Lincoln Heights, has been placed on administrative leave, according to fire Capt. Carlos Calvillo. The department is cooperating in the investigation, he said.

August 19, 2006 1:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whack-job Bobby Aquino is leading workers into ditch, again. Too bad Angel cannot get a net thrown over Fearless Leader and become the New Number One.
I sincerely hope my brothers and sisters of EAA can get themselves over to IBEW, SEIU or AFSME before they have to go through this AGAIN!
It's not about the workers, it's all about Bobby. He has made everything contentiously personal with everyone to the point no one will work with him and the workers are going to get screwed on their retro pay again.

August 19, 2006 3:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger you shouldn't have to validate yourself or the other guys to the morons who are obviously posting for their bosses. When you have the newspapers nailing them for being such hypocrites that's more ammunition for the fight of the people. This is how gutless they all are including Rocktard.

MINISTER FILES LAWSUIT OVER SCUFFLE WITH OFFICERS....Tony Muhammad has filed a lawsuit in connection with a scuffle he and bodyguards got into with Los Angeles police last summer...alleges assault and battery, negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress and violations of the civil code.

Delgadillo, no doubt in consultation with others in city government, apparently felt that a criminal trial featuring Tony Muhammad in the starring role would be more of a spectacle than he was prepared to endure. Given Mr. Muhammad’s fondness for publicity and his penchant for provocative antics, surely there is a risk that any such trial would devolve into farce, but any talk of “insufficient evidence” is nothing more than legalistic cover for a political decision. Worse, the decision only paves the way for the next confrontation between an emboldened Muhammad and the police. When you give a rat a cookie, don’t be surprised when it comes back looking for a glass of milk.

There is a seldom-discussed fear that animates just about everyone in city government here in Los Angeles: the fear of a riot like that which followed the acquittal of four LAPD officers in the beating of Rodney King in 1992. It is this fear that causes them to embrace charlatans like Tony Muhammad and others, who use the threat of such a riot as a means to increase their own influence and to lay claim to a share of the millions of dollars in “gang-intervention” money that the city spreads around each year. And it is this fear that also requires the periodic sacrifice of police officers involved in controversial incidents. Muhammad has sued the LAPD over this incident, and there will of course be the inevitable demands for at least one of the involved cops to be fired.

August 19, 2006 7:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry Sammy but you don't have an open thread yet. Can this little asshole do this? Isn't it their 1st ammendment right to strike?

Villaraigosa Seeks to Bar Key Employees From Strike

The L.A. mayor will ask a judge to bar about 200 essential workers from taking part in the job action planned for Tuesday and Wednesday.
Facing a strike by a city employees union pledging to disrupt life across Los Angeles, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said Friday that he will seek to block about 200 key workers in airports, sewage treatment plants and emergency services from joining the two-day walkout.

August 19, 2006 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A $600,000 Clowncil gave to Connie Rice to study gangs programs was found to be wasting $82 million. The study concluded that all those programs aren'thelping the problem. So what do our CLOWNCIL MEMBERS DO? THEY GIVE THEM MORE MONEY....fucking idiots!!!!

More Money for Anti-Gang Efforts
Saying more police are only part of the solution to enhancing public safety, city leaders voted Friday to spend more on gang prevention and intervention.
The City Council decided to devote 15% of new public safety revenues this year for such programs and an undetermined amount in future years.


August 19, 2006 8:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger at 10:54, with nothing better to do.

You may think you have a "battle" to finish with City council, but look at the numbers.

You and the other screaming "leaders" are all without "troops" -- with no support at home... can't even muster 1 percent turnout.

City council knows that, and that's why there's no fear in dissing you.

Yes, they show up for an occasional alliance meeting -- like someone might throw a dog a bone.

But in the end, they know -- you've got LOUSY political skills, otherwise you'd spend MORE increasing your base, not wandering around City Hall trying to find someone to take you seriously.

GROW YOU BASE, then they HAVE to take you seriously... but not until.

You have no power, you don't even spend the MONEY you're given BY the city to gain a little, and you have no support. And you're just once city election from pissing off the few second-term councilmembers who do give a rats qass what you save.

That spells MORON, with a capital A-L-G-E-R. ((Another little Napolean, who's all sideways hat, and no ARMY. . . unless you think your army are all those other gadflies, who ALSO can't get a few hundred people to vote for them IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD).

NCs CAN (and some do) spend as much as they want to increase support, voting and participation. And those few are growing in size and influence (not shrinking by 63 percent, as yours has).

The 80-90 percent of city funds left in your NCs account each year shows the truth.

YOU DON'T WANT MORE PEOPLE in NWNC taking part (they MIGHT disagree with you, and tell you to shut up, or even replace you).

August 19, 2006 9:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:16am ok Weiss Ass staffer keep posting. The people needed a huge issue and be so upset by it to go after the CLOWNCIL MEMBERS and now the guys have just given us one. 9:16am a lot of people who were never involved with NC's before are lending support. T-shirts are being made up citywide to campaign hard against term limits. Senior citizens who had no clue how poorly our clowncil members have been treating the constituents are involved. YOU KNOW THEY ARE THE ONES WHO VOTE ABSENTEE IN HIGH NUMBERS. Teen-agers who can vote are as outraged as many of us are. The last straw was today's headlines.
dailynews.com. Those bastards did yet another bullshit move to piss us off. They will pay big time at the polls come election time.

August 19, 2006 9:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When Alger was elected 216 stakeholders voted. Alger ran as a renter. No one else ran as a renter. He received 77% of the vote. The NC he represents has 20,000 residents and an unknown number of stakeholders. Keep in mind people who work in the district can also vote.

The numbers above were reported by DONE and Alger.

Less than 2% of the stakeholders in the District supported Alger.

I heard 69 stakeholers voted in the last election for NWNC.

This is a failure that rests with the leadership of the Northridge West Neighborhood Council. Jim Alger is their president.

This is his failure!!! No way to spin your way out of this Alger.

August 19, 2006 5:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Another charge by the lightweight brigade.

Don't speak for "the people" -- you barely know any.

Judging by the NC participation of the loudest mouths speaking for "neighborhood councils" they know even less "people."

August 19, 2006 8:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Keep claiming that council staffers are posting all this defaming evidence about the "hollow men" of the alliance and LANC.

Doesn't matter who posts it, if it's true (and it all is). Either way it comes out, the hollows have shot themselves in the foot, and their empty "armies" of followers (ready to "battle" city council) don't even have medics.

Someone play taps. . .

August 19, 2006 8:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:09 is praying like hell the NCs don't have the power we all know they do. Otherwise why bother? Empty followers????? Yeah right the battle has just begun and we're not even in Sept. yet. We started our campaign after that Clowncil meeting and word is spreading faster then a speeding bullet. Keep praying for your bosses cause when we're done with them you'll have to look for another job.

August 19, 2006 9:09 PM  

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