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Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Whitman/Brown Post Debate Round-up




Okay my friends, it's pretty obvious that Meg came across at last night's gubernatorial debate more as a greeter for Wal-Mart than as someone who has a solution (much less a grasp) for what ails California, but that's just my take.

Notables;

"I apologize to everyone in California, and no one is more embarrassed by it than me." -Meg Whitman (on why she failed to vote for years).

"There's no question: Brown won. Whitman may have been reassuring to her base in the cow counties, but they would vote for her anyway. But it was a good lesson in the contrast between government and corporations: this is the kind of person who runs a corporation, and if you really believe that corporations and their billionaire execs are more trustworthy than government, you're driving too close".- Joseph Mailander

"Jerry Brown just won the first debate." -Eric Garcetti

"I've been in the kitchen, I've taken the heat." -Jerry Brown

" I don't support a path to legalization." -Meg Whitman (on immigration)


"The fact that Jerry Brown is trying to distance himself from the labor unions is amazing to me, because Jerry Brown and the labor unions have been joined at the hip for the last 40 years." -Meg Whitman

"I will not give millionaires and billionaires a $5 billion tax break, those with the biggest belts should tuck them in first." -Jerry Brown

"Jerry Brown won. No doubt. Smarts. Humor. Reality. Reminds us (who were there) why we voted for him the first time. Explains to those who weren't why California was once the envy of the nation. Jerry still has the values and optimism that made us great then and will again. The greatest things about this election is that making Jerry Brown the once and future Governor of California could well make our state the once and future envy of the nation!" -Cameron Sanders


SF Chronicle splains it.
GPW splains it even better.
LA Times has more. As does Politico, Neon Tommy.

Your civil and insightful response is most welcome.

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35 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I kept laughing at the frozen smile on Meg's face, she was robotic and speaking on auto-pilot. Jerry really did a great job and Meg now has some serious ground to make up if she expects to recover.

September 29, 2010 8:00 AM  

Blogger OneEyedJack said:

Typical of California our "choice" is no choice. We have a liar who has a different position on issues depending on what media outlet she's talking to.

Then we have a buffoon who FAILED at running California, enabled the cronyism that now runs rampant between unions and our elected officials and in his "retirement" ran Oakland like a fool.

I'm at a loss for which of these slobs are the more palatable. Guess I'll hold my nose and vote for.....

September 29, 2010 8:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Whitman doesn't support a path to freedom, I'm voting for her.

I'm tired of the illegals standing on corners, choking the emergency rooms, and getting welfare.

If there's no path to citizenship, they'll either go home or starve. I'm all for that!

September 29, 2010 8:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who cares what Eric Garcetti says.

He is the City Council President during the city's near-bankruptcy.

September 29, 2010 8:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The funniest moment of the night was when Jerry Brown said that if all public servants worked as long in government as HE has, the CALPERS system would be 50% OVER funded.

In other words, he admitted that he is a career hack.

Joe, what do you think will be the OUTCOME of the election? You have already stated your biased view, and you're entitled to it. So who will win, and by how much?

September 29, 2010 8:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

if Brown wins, which I don't think is likely, his hippie style of living will kick in. people will be allowed to mate with goats.

September 29, 2010 8:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ERIC GARCETTI, JOE?

You trust HIM???????? Why not quote Villaraigosa? They're both responsible equally for ruining the city.

Talk about having no credibility! Eric's sense of entitlement is astounding. Oh, and Garcetti endorsed Obama, who is tanking. IMHO, whatever Eric says, I say go the other way.

Seriously, dude. Eric Garcetti?

September 29, 2010 8:32 AM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

I have no idea who will win 8:28am,
this is a close race. Besides the only three things in life that we can safely rely on is death, taxes, and Phil Jennerjahn coming in last place.

September 29, 2010 8:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Methinks that, since he only posts pro-dem, anti-republican polls or comments, Joe B must be nervous about the likely outcome.

Otherwise, why would he be so wound up in his posts?

September 29, 2010 8:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JOE!

FINALLY, A FUCKING FUNNY COMMENT FROM YOU! RE: PHIL COMING IN LAST.

SOMETIMES YOU GET SO BENT OUT OF SHAPE THAT YOU FAIL TO TAKE THE FOOT OFF OF THE GAS PEDAL AND JUST DO SOMETHING FUNNY.

Seriously, your posts that are microfocused on poll results makes me think that you don't personally think it's close. You come across as someone who feels the need to let others know that Brown is running away with it, in the hopes that they'll go along and vote for the person in the lead. But refusing to make a prediction shows that you're nervous about this.

You need to relax and not be so hyper partisan. I would read your posts more often if I felt you were fair. What's the point of reading your posts if you know what the person's position is before you read the first word?

September 29, 2010 8:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Glad to hear that Whitman is not in favor of citizenship paths.

This is my only issue, and it's what I'm casting my vote on.

I will not vote for ANY pol who allows immigration cheats to get citizenship ahead of those who follow the rules.

September 29, 2010 8:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sick and tired of pro-immigration politicians. I wish Joe Arpaio would come to LA. I'd vote for him for whatever job he wants.

September 29, 2010 8:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

i'm with 8:43. Arizona is doing the right thing. I wish LA and CA would do the same.

September 29, 2010 8:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is it me, or does Jerry Brown seem like an angry ol' queen?

I never bought that "relationship" with Linda Ronstadt. Jerry doesn't have an ounce of testosterone in him. His liver spots creep me out.

September 29, 2010 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whichever candidate best emulates the goals of the Tea Party, I would vote for them. I haven't seen either of them take a position on the Tea Parties, but I'm guessing that Whitman is closest to their views.

This, and her pledge to strongly cut back on the number of state jobs, and the state pensions, is why I'm voting for her.

September 29, 2010 8:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whitman for President in 2012.

September 29, 2010 8:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I disagree with the author.

I think Meg seemed warm and balanced. Brown has been a key cog in the Sacramento machine for decades. That didn't work then, and it sure won't work any longer.

I hope that Meg breaks the state up into NoCal and SoCal, just like the Carolinas.

September 29, 2010 8:50 AM  

Anonymous Jerry Brown said:

"I was governor. Then Mayor. Now Attorney General. I already ran for President, and as a Democrat, "noone" will vote for them for president again, so I will now run for governor again."

The Jerry Brown Circle of Life!

September 29, 2010 8:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Best Comment of the Debate

"Putting Jerry Brown in charge is like putting Dracula in charge of the blood bank."

No surprise that Joe didn't write about that! CNN and PMS-NBC are even reporting this.

September 29, 2010 9:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am tired of second generation political hacks - - sorry Jerry.

Lets get some fresh perspectives and Arnold wtf were you thinking when you married a Kennedy and ran as a republican ???

September 29, 2010 9:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm with 9:30am.

September 29, 2010 9:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Like Jerry Brown, Janice Hahn and Jim Hahn are also do-nothing hack children of political hacks, and yes that includes ken hahn. Fuck all of them. And eric garcetti.

September 29, 2010 9:48 AM  

Anonymous Montana said:

Could it be that these two republican women are falling in the polls because they look better on paper than in real life or are people finding out who they real are? Lets face it Carly Fiorina was basically fired from HP, but not before she sent HP USA jobs overseas. California has already tried a so-called outsider Independent Republican, his name Arnold Schwarzenegger, we all know how that turned out. Meg Whitman, thinks she can buy the election, but what puzzles many is if she real cared and loved California then why not do your civic duty and vote, seems she is more rhetoric than anything (in good times we would give her a try but not in our disaster mode that we are in). She is finding out that California is not for sale and that you can’t buy everything! What a waste of money!

September 29, 2010 9:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

955, Fiorina dumped those jobs because it was bad for the company.

As much as you may think jobs are a life=long promise from a company, only a BAD company would keep employees it doesn't need, or can't get filled at a lower wage.

Sounds like you're a far lefty who doesn't understand capitalism.

When I hear about companies reorganizing and getting rid of dead weight employees, that's when I invest. Fiorina was richly rewarded for doing the right thing for the company.

September 29, 2010 10:09 AM  

Anonymous trojan2002 said:

Joe- Garcetti is the same as brown, not just as beneficiaries of nepotism, but they are both d-bags.
Of course Garcetti has to support Brown at 110%.
To do otherwise would be a tacit implications of his lack of ability at being lead Clowncil.

September 29, 2010 10:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The JoeB/Joe Mailander liberals used to battle Democrats on the City Council or Mayor because it was the right thing to do.

However they have met with local Democrats and got them in line to not criticize any Democrats even the shady ones in City Hall or Bell.

This is why they will not support any Clean Sweep candidates such as Stephen Box, Rudy Martinez and others. They have been told the Republicans are out to get Mayor Villaraigosa.

September 29, 2010 12:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe and Higby,

Will you write about Phil admitting on his blog that he is not a resident of CD4, rather than CD5?

In order for his campaign filing to be legitimate, he needs to have been a resident of CD4 when he filed!

Can't you out him on this? This is proof of his being a carpetbagger.

September 29, 2010 1:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What, no comments on Meg's maid? This is the smoking gun. I lvoe her quote, "she is like part of the family but we had to fire her.."

Sounds just like a slave owner, "she was like part of the family but we had to sell her..."

Republican = Hypocrisy

September 29, 2010 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Republicans and "decline to states," get ready to hold your nose a little harder when you vote for Meg Whitman. TMZ had the story this morning, an 11AM press call to reveal that Meg's former housekeeper is an illegal alien, and that Meg fired her when she started to run for political office (Meg, not the illegal alien, that is).

Any lawyer worth a damn will tell you that the illegal alien lawsuit is completely without merit, you cannot claim to be wrongfully terminated from a job you are not entitiled to have. But since when has the law been any concern of Gloria Alred, for it is she who represents the illegal alien housekeeper.

Yep, Gloria has taken this case to embarrass Whitman and that's all.

September 29, 2010 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I admire Meg.

She showed the maid's forged papers from the employment agency.

She and hubby are in the clear. It's the maid's and agency's fault.

And yes, Meg HAD TO fire her or else SHE would have violated the law. All the maid is doing now with her crocodile tears is seeking a payout.

Leave it to Gloria Allred to help a fitlhy illegal forger and liar.

September 29, 2010 1:58 PM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

The JoeB/Joe Mailander liberals used to battle Democrats on the City Council or Mayor because it was the right thing to do.

However they have met with local Democrats and got them in line to not criticize any Democrats even the shady ones in City Hall or Bell.

This is why they will not support any Clean Sweep candidates such as Stephen Box, Rudy Martinez and others. They have been told the Republicans are out to get Mayor Villaraigosa.


I have not been told any of this. What I have been told by my puppet masters is that if elected in November, Cooley is going to indict Villaraigosa, but Obama will flummox Cooley by naming Villaraigosa Ambassador to Guatamala, and that City Council is currently working out a deal to make Herb Wesson mayor once Villaraigosa resigns, just to make sure that none of you birthday party clowns can vote for anybody who matters until 2013.

September 29, 2010 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby you and your Republicans better stop being nice and start playing by the Trujillo/Mailander playbook.

September 29, 2010 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This Declined-to-State is voting for Jerry.

September 29, 2010 4:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Half of the comments are from Trujillo. He goes to Mexican neighborhood and tells people in Spanish that Meg hates Mexicans.

September 29, 2010 4:56 PM  

Anonymous g said:

BOTH THESE CANDIDATES SHOULD DEAL WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HEAD ON. THE AMENISTY CRAP IS FOR THE BIRD'S. WE ARE GOING TO GO BANKRUPT BY SUPPORTING THESE KIND OF FIXES. TOO MUCH TIME IS WASTED TRYING TO APPEASE THESE RADICAL GROUPS. WE HAVE IMMIGRATION LAW JUST ENFORCE IT. THE ILLEGAL POPULATION EXSIST BECAUSE WORKERS WHO COME HERE NEVER RETURNED TO THEIR COUNTRY YET THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF CHANGING OUR LAWS TO SUIT THEIR NEEDS AND YOU ALL WILL PAY A DEEP ,COSTLY PRICE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WORK IT'S ABOUT DOMINATING THE POLITICAL SYSTEM. ALL THE LATIN COUNTRIES THEY FLEE ARE RUN BY LATINS AND THEY ALL SUFFER FROM VARIOUS LEVELS OF CORRUPTION. YOUR GETTING AN IDEA WITH ALARCON AND MAYOR TONY.

September 30, 2010 1:48 PM  

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