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Friday, July 09, 2010

Outtakes from CD 14: "CLARTS Fund Transparency Held Hostage, Day 96, The Stonwalling Continues"..... and other CD 14 News.

Hola and happy TGIF from the "Cut and Paste Republic of CD 14", where on any given day, political exploitation is a given, especially near re-election time.

On the subject of political exploitation, CD 14 City Councilman Jose Huizar is a "five-star practitioner" of image crafting. especially if the taxpayers or a certain CLARTS Fund foots the bill.

Lets be serious here, what other council district in Ciudad de Los Angeles has three straight days of Fourth of July festivities, where constituents can celebrate the nation's most sacred day in the shadows of Huizar banners, posters, and signage?

Where else can you hear, see and watch your councilman parade himself in front of the assemble masses, while staffers canvass the audience for any protential political interlopers?

And what council district allocates fireworks resources based upon protential voter turnout and contributions to a re-election campaign? That would be CD 14 and who or what pays for all of this? That is not readily transparent.

For months now, political observers and diligent journalists have sought out the public records how Councilman Huizar funds these commuinity exercises in image crafting. Some have speculated that Councilman Huizar is hording the financial resources of the CLARTS Fund, as some sort of political slush fund, that will be use as a vote buying fund for his re-election campaign in 2011.

The latest to inquire about the CLARTS Fund is Los Angeles Garment and Citizen Editor and Publisher Jerry Sullivan, who devotes column inches to the issue, in his latest edition. And what response did Sullivan's inquiries get from the office of Councilman Huizar? Silence.............

From the Garment and Citizen.

E-mails obtained by the Garment & Citizen indicate that representatives of Huizar acknowledged more than four months ago that documents detailing spending from the CLARTS Fund are public records and subject to public scrutiny—but they have not released them. The e-mails inidcate that an initial acknowledgement came on February 25 in response to a request from Carlos Morales, editor of The Voice. Ana Cubas, who currently serves as Huizar’s chief of staff, said the council office would need 30 days to respond to Morales’ request.

That timeline has come and gone with no disclosure. A more recent request for the records by the Garment & Citizen has drawn no response from Huizar’s office.

As Sullivan notes in his latest "Dat, Dat, Dish Column", this issue regarding the lack of transparency, will surely galvanize the CD 14 activists to support a challenger to replace Councilman Huizar, who will return openness and transparency to CD 14.

4+12+14=3: That might look like some crazy math, but not if you consider the equation from the vantage point of Ron Kaye’s “Clean Sweep” campaign, which is seeking viable candidates to challenge incumbents in the 2011 City Council elections. Word among politicos has the Clean Sweepers zeroing in on three of the seven seats that will be on the ballot early next year, with incumbents Tom Labonge of the 4th District and the 14th District’s Jose Huizar on their radar—and a search ongoing for a horse to back in the open race for the 12th District. Word on the street says the number of Clean Sweep targets could grow, since the City Council’s performance amid hard times appears to have helped take Kaye’s quest from quixotic to quite doable (see related story, “Huizar Won’t Say on CLARTS Fund,”

....... and judging by the interaction between El Sereno and Eagle Rock activists with announced CD 14 Candidate Rudy Martinez at "Huizzy's Fireworks Tour de CD 14" that process is well underway.

OTHER CD 14 NEWS:

** On the "Politics of Fireworks", a few CD 14 activists had the salient observation that Boyle Heights and El Sereno were given the "economy size show" compare to Eagle Rock, who were the benefitories of the political kindness of Councilman Huizar. One person pointed out that the Eagle Rock show was double the length of the El Sereno and Boyle Heights shows.

But we can gladly report that the duck population at Hollenbeck Park, did not endure any tragic deaths compare to last year.

And lastly, our thoughts are with the former CD 14 constituents of Lincoln Heights, who were deprived of fireworks this year at Lincoln Park, due to the inaction of the Action Slate of the Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council. LHNC Board Members were seen at the El Sereno Show, but according to a very reliable source, a "executive board member" of the LHNC, opined that he rather spend LHNC money on Lincoln High School band uniforms, than an inclusive community fireworks show. Stay tune for future developments on the new LHNC.

** Would someone please forward me the memo where republicans, need not apply for neighborhood councils in CD 14? That is the one of the accusations that has been disclosed in the election challenges to the recent Neighborhood Council Elections in CD14, as reported in the Eastern Group Publications.

Community Activist Manny Aldana was the subject of a hundred page complaint courtesy of Boyle Heights Neighborhood Council Secretary Margarita Amador, that call upon DONE to disqualify him from being re-elected to the BHNC. Maybe this had to do with the fact that Aldana was the "republican challenger to current Assembly Speaker John Perez in 2008. Or maybe it has to do with Aldana being one of the original signers on the Recall Petition of Mayor Antonio Parkervillar? Smells political to me.

Then we have this other grievance from again Boyle Heights, as noted the EGP story.

On another note, last week Yolanda Gonzales, a BHNC founder, filed a grievance alleging that the old board was intentionally holding up the swearing-in of new board members because the new chair is a registered Republican, a complaint Amador called irrelevant. (Note the lack of a denial)

“I think that’s why a lot of people don’t want to be a part of Neighborhood Councils,” Amador said, noting that no background checks are done on candidates. She says anyone, including criminals and people who just want to build their resumes to run for a higher office, can be elected to the council and administer tax dollars. (Note the abundance of spin)

BTW, did Assemblyman Hector De La Torre author a law where convicted felons could not run for public office?

** If you are in a giving mood. that newest "connected non-profit" Legacy LA, is hosting a Casino Night this evening from 8 PM until midnight at the Hazard Park Armory. Via text from "Monique" "Hey!! Legacy is having a Casino night this FRiday, 6/9 from 8PM -midnight. $30/ticket or $50/couple. I'm selling tix, so hit me up! We need ur help!" Wonder if LA Rec. and parks is a willing partner in this endeavor?

Your thoughts..............

Scott Johnson in CD 14

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28 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There will be a dark horse running for the CD14 seat.... one who owes nothing to no one and truly believes in transparency.... stay tuned....

July 09, 2010 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Too long to read.

Learn to be more succinct, and I'll read your ongoing boring cd14 crap.

Learn to edit.

July 09, 2010 4:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rather than complaining you ignoramus, what are you going to do to replace Huizar?

I hope it doesn't include YOUR running. Candidates need to be good at 'rithmetic and the alpha bets.

July 09, 2010 6:22 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

It's not that Republican's CAN'T run for neighborhod councils in CD14, or even win seats -- it's just that it's SO uncomfortable for them to be surrounded by the hordes of Eastside Democrats that make up most of the boards.

The White Liberal Guilt factor is so thick in the air you can barely hardly see to get into some of the meeting rooms, let alone having to dodge the CONSTANT knee-jerking from all the "progressives" (those are liberals who went to COLLEGE, and know better than to use the "L" word -- and I don't mean "Lesbian").

Heck, you could end up CRIPPLED (sorry, not PC, ummm "physically challenged"?) from the kicks.

Beside, the job of neighborhood council people is to advise City Hall, right? And just how much "advice" are the current electeds on the Eastside (who already get 70-80 percent of the vote, even over challengers who are ALSO Democrats), going to actually take from people like Republicans, who can't affect the outcome of any of their positions.

DOH!

July 09, 2010 8:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:06 p.m.

If you actually do know someone who -

"owes nothing to no one and truly believes in transparency...."

- then tell them to get a small business loan and start a new enterprise, like maybe a window-cleaning service ("believes in transparency" -- get it?)

Because no one that meets that profile can even come in second in a CD14 council race. This time, like before, Huizar's hatchet squad will destroy them, if they've ever so much as jaywalked, made an enemy (even for a good reason), or missed a payment on a bill. And, the public thrashing will just bring pain and anguish to their family and friends.

Let the character assassins who run this City have the Council seats.

(Not to mention, owing "nothing to no one" is a good way to get nothing done in four years).

Downtown is all about favors and payback.

July 09, 2010 8:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks for the comprehensive update, Scott.

I've heard , from good authority, that Rudy Martinez is already a part of the good-old-boy network and nothing would change with him being elected.

Comment, please.

July 10, 2010 12:35 AM  

Anonymous paleocon said:

Stick to your guns SJ. We need you, we appreciate you. Thx...p

July 10, 2010 1:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

She says anyone, including criminals and people who just want to build their resumes to run for a higher office, can be elected to the neighborhood council and administer tax dollars.

OH SURE. That will happen real soon.

July 10, 2010 4:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Its sad to know that in a Latino community there is so many egos and polticial bullshit nothing ever gets done because there is so much fighting. The old BHNC were all Huizar groupies. The new board are representatives that actually care about the community. Huizar was shocked when the new board WON over his groupies. With the horrible state of our country and Obama ruining it many Latinos who voted for him are going either Independent or Republican. Republican party of Latinos helped Bush get elected. The saying goes 'ANYONE BUT HUIZAR" The corruption will sooon come to light by reporters.

July 10, 2010 6:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you can't beat them...Join them...??? Vote for "ME", I lie better....I cheat better....I can manipulate the capitalistic system better...I'll do favors for big business...I like bending and making up my own rules...I'll never tell the truth...I hate to be inconvenienced...I'll step on the "little guy"...Yes at least I'm "HONEST" and telling voters up front...So vote for "ME" because I deserve the notoriety and will make sure to ruin the City of LA as best as I can...Ooops...I think that has been accomplished...OK I'm for the status quo...I "promise"...You can depend on me...I'll collude with others to make sure to create laws that will tax the poor, and middle class out of existence...
Vote for "DREAD DASASTARDLY"...I'm "as foul as Vulcan's Stithy."

July 10, 2010 9:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Red Splot,

Heard that the wine was flowing last night at the Casino Night/

Is there a policy about alcohol on Rec. and Parks property?

July 10, 2010 10:07 AM  

Anonymous g said:

END FIGHTING GETS NO ONE NOWHERE. THE LAW ON ELECTIONS NEEDS TO CHANGE TO ENABLE LESSER BUT BETTER CANDIDATES TO BE HEARD AND TO BECOME CREDITABLE WITH VOTERS. THE INTERNET AND MEDIA ALSO MUST BE LEAD DOWN THIS PATH. MONEY RIGHT NOW RUNS THE SHOW. THAT HAS TO CHANGE. IF ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATES HAS MORE, THAT MONEY SHOULD BE BY LAW DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY BETWEEN CANDIDATES AND DEBATES FOR ALL CANDIDATES TO STATE VIEWS WITHOUT FAVORITISM. IF THINGS STAY THE SAME NO HONEST CANDIDATE WILL EVER HAVE A CHANCE IN ANY ELECTION. ALSO POLITICAL POLLS MUST BE OUTLAWED. LET THE PEOPLE MAKE THESE CHOICES WITHOUT INTERFERANCE.

July 10, 2010 2:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The wine was flowing at Hazard Park, like it flows at Sacred Heart Parish's auditorium, where you can have anything to drink as long as the price is right!!!

July 10, 2010 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No WONDER they are ignoring you. You have made a public records request for information that is ALREADY public. Anytime someone taps into CLARTS they need a motion and all the motions are already listed on the city's web site. It goes all the way back to 2004.

I got this information in 10 seconds, and you’ve been after it for how many months?

Aren't Carlos Morales and Jerry Sullivan supposed to be journalists? Learn to do some research, morons.

Click the link, put in CLARTS as the search word. You can click each one and see a scan of the motion.
http://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacityclerkconnect/

09-0326-S1 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District Fourteen 01/27/2010

07-1329-S2 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station Community Amenities Trust Fund / Reimbursement 10/27/2009

09-0326 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District Fourteen 09/09/2009

09-1969 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) Trust Fund / Fiscal Year 2008-2009 08/07/2009

08-2438 EV Events / Personal Services Contract / Fourteenth Council District 06/02/2009

09-0271 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District Fourteen 04/30/2009

09-0140 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District Fourteen 04/08/2009

09-0635 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District Fourteen 04/02/2009

08-0536-S1 Community Amenities Trust Fund / Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) / Council District 14 12/08/2008

08-2557 Restoration of Murals / Soledad Enrichment Action 10/10/2008

08-2474 Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station / Venue Renovation 10/03/2008

07-3725-S1 Boyle Heights Project / Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station
10/03/2008

03-0307 CENTRAL LOS ANGELES RECYCLING AND TRANSFER STATION 06/24/2008

08-1365 CHICANO NOW AMERICAN EXPRESSIONS EXHIBIT 06/11/2008

08-0783 COMMUNITY AMENITIES TRUST FUND / CLARTS / COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 04/24/2008

08-0536 COMMUNITY AMENITIES TRUST FUND / CLARTS / COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 04/08/2008

08-0375 COMMUNITY AMENITIES / COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 / CLARTS 03/07/2008

08-0261 2201 EAST WASHINGTON BOULEVARD / CLARTS FACILITY / AGREEMENTS 03/07/2008

08-0100 COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND AMENITIES / COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 / CLARTS 02/08/2008

07-4100 SOLEDAD ENRICHMENT ACTION / ANNUAL BRIDGE LIGHTING AND TOY GIVEAWAY / BOYLE HEIGHTS 01/15/2008

and so on and so on, all the way back to 2004 when the transfer station was acquired. LEARN TO DO SOME RESEARCH.

July 10, 2010 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Three fireworks shows is too much? NO, it's not enough! If you disagree it means you hate America!!

July 10, 2010 5:14 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

3:59 PM

Can you finish your research and show us who got the money?

July 10, 2010 5:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A listing of motions and other City Council actions is not necessarily a full accounting of the CLARTS fund.

How much has gone into the fund? How much has been spent, and on what? And how much remains in the fund?

There is no way to know that all of the spending from the CLARTS fund has come with motions and approvals of the City Council. How can anyone know how much has been spent unless they know how much has gone into the fund and its current balance.

The Council Member in charge of the fund owes the public a full and definitive accounting with his or her name on it. The full accounting should cover all revenue that has gone to the fund, and all expenditures on a line-by-line basis, including any that were made without City Council motions or approvals.

The full accounting should also provide a definitive balance of the fund, with confirmation that the indicated total remains in the account.

Pointing someone to a list of City Council actions does not amount to transparency on public finances. A full accounting for the CLARTS fund could and should be kept on a running basis and be made available to anyone who inquires. It's a simple matter, and efforts to complicate it by forcing anyone who inquires to reconstruct years' worth of spending with no information on the contributions to the fund or its balance are absurd.

Acknowledging a request for pubic records and then not responding as promised is the opposite of transparency.

Sending attack dogs to try to discredit Carlos Morales for asking for a complete set of information on behalf of the community newspaper he edits, and on behalf of its readers and the community it serves, is an abuse of power and an example of contempt for voters.

July 10, 2010 8:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WOW! Per Pacheco's Youtube viedeo: CLARTS started with $1 MILLION back in 2004...8:30 p.m. has legitimate concerns...I sure would like to see Huizar officially account for these funds through The Voice. It will make interesting reading. So CD 14 should have about one million dollars, or CD 14 should have zero $$$ in CLARTS's Funding, or CD 14 should have more than a million dollars. Huizar show us the figures...Show us the MONEY!

July 10, 2010 10:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Would the CLA's office handle the actual accounting report that goes to the council office? If so, can they send a public records request to the CLA's office if the council office is not responding?

July 11, 2010 12:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can have all the motions you want Huizar NEVER EVER PUTS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. Notice on all his motions it shows he's transfering money but doesn't say where or to who the money is being transferred to. That's a huge issue that the people ahve a right to know about.

July 11, 2010 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:35pm - you're right, it's just not clear where the money's going (if you are a dum dum)

Here are some examples:

*
Soledad Enrichment Action is coordinating the restoration of the historical murals "No Somos Animales" and" Advancements of Man," which were destroyed in 2007. This effort is of special benefit for the residents of the City and for CD 14 and deserves financial assistance from the City.
Sufficient funds are available in the CLARTS Community Amenities Trust Fund for this purpose.

I THEREFORE MOVE that $42,000 in the Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) Community Amenities Trust Fund No. 47S, Department 14, be utilized to fund any aspect of the restoration of the historical murals "No Somos Animales" and
"Advancements of Man," which were destroyed in 2007.

*
Casa 0101 is a non-profit theater group in Boyle Heights founded by playwright and screenwriter Josefina Lopez (author of Real Women Have Curves). The mission of Casa 0101 is to present theater, art exhibits, writing classes and digital video classes to train the future writers and performers of Los Angeles who will one day transform the world. Casa 0101 is in need of funding to be used for all direct, indirect and other project costs as related to the new CASA 0101 venue renovation. This effort is of special benefit for the residents of the City and for CD 14 and deserves financial assistance from the City. Sufficient funds are available in the CLARTS Community Amenities Trust Fund for this purpose.

I THEREFORE MOVE that $50,000 in the Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) Community Amenities Trust Fund No. 47S, Department 14, be utilized to fund any aspect ofthe new CASA 0101 venue renovation.

*
The Culture Clashs Playwright's Portal Project (PO Box 291573, Los Angeles, CA 90029) is coordinating efforts related to the "Chicano Now American Expressions" exhibit. This exhibit will be showcased at EI Pueblo Historical Monument. Delivery and installation will begin on May 22"d and will run indefinitely. This effort is of special benefit for the residents of the City and for CD 14 and deserves financial assistance from the City.
Sufficient funds are available in the CLARTS Community Amenities Trust Fund for this purpose.

I THEREFORE MOVE that $7,000 in the Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) Community Amenities Trust Fund No. 47S, Department 14, be utilized to fund any aspect of the Culture Clashs Playwright's Portal Project (PO Box 291573, Los Angeles, CA 90029) efforts related to the "Chicano Now American Expressions" exhibit.


*
The LAPD Hollenbeck Police Activities League (PAL) operates many programs for the community including a "Top Cop" program which educates youth on leadership skills and public safety issues, and teaches youth to be law abiding citizens.
These efforts are of special benefit for the residents of the City and for CD 14 and deserves financial assistance from the City. Sufficient funds are available in the CLARTS Community Amenities Trust Fund for this purpose.

I THEREFORE MOVE that $10,000 in the Central Los Angeles Recycling and Transfer Station (CLARTS) Community Amenities Trust Fund No. 47S, Department 14, be utilized to fund any aspect of the LAPD Hollenbeck Police Activities League (PAL) programs such as the "Top Cop" program as well as any of its other programs, including general operating expenses.


OPEN THE MOTIONS AND READ. Don't waste tax-payer money and public time asking for information that's already there is you would just click your mouse a few times.

July 12, 2010 6:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:35 p.m. offers nothing more than more deception and more abuse.
Again, a list of City Council motions, even if they provide information on expenditures, is not a full accounting of the CLARTS Fund.

How much has gone into the fund?
How much has gone out?
How much remains on hand?
Have any expenditures been made without a City Council motion or approval?

That information would provide the basis for a full accounting, and it could and should be readily available.

Instead we get insults for any individual who dares to ask. We get arrogance blames the victim by trying to humiliate any voter or taxpayer who might be less than completely familiar with the absurd standards for public accounting and professional accountability at City Hall.

Here's what the CD 14 Council Member and his staff should keep in mind: It is not your money. All the revenue you think is your own comes from--and belongs to--the people of this city. That means individuals, families, business owners, property owners--all of the people who provide the revenue that funds this city.

Instead, the people are called "dum dums" and "morons" for simply asking for a clear accounting.

This is not right, not just, and not the way to make any sort of future for a city that is struggling and needs all the help it can get.

You don't inspire anyone to help by attacking them for asking questions they have every right to ask and clouding the issue of public accountability by hiding misguided political behavior behind a bureacratic mess.

July 12, 2010 9:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the Huizar staffer who is posting the motions fails to tell people is a lot of the money is NOT POSTED ON THE MOTION. Huizar has maybe less then a binder full of motions he's actually passed that were worth a damn. IN all the years he's been in council if you look at all the motions of Huizar compared to other council members, Huizar's are fewere and dumber then theirs. He hasnt' accomplished anything but is taking credit for everything. Residents aren't dumb. They know and are waiting for that other candidate to announce soon.

July 12, 2010 10:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Blah, blah, blah. Whine, whine, whine. People complaining on this blog should enroll in a community college accounting course--err, pre-basic math course--if they can't add that 1 + 1 = 2 and 2 + 2 = 4 take 2 from 4 that's two, and that's why you are a fool.

Stop whining, stop being lazy, and stop being ignorant. In order to expend (that means spend for all of you folks who think they graduated from a college) you need Council approval. That means that ever dollar spent is accounted for through what has been posted here. I definitely will not tolerate arrogance from my elected representatives, but beyond that, I will not tolerate ignorance or laziness on the part of those whining about transparency. "If you want it, go get it." It's definitely there.

As far as you other morons posting on transparency of how much revenue was received, you seem to don't understand the principle of the Public Records Act: requesting reasonable information! There can be $1,000 to $1,000,000 in the fund. Who cares? It is not reasonable public information. What is reasonable public information is how it is spent, dum dums.

AND for everyone's information, EVERY account in EVERY elected office is PUBLIC information. You cannot spend a dime without it being accounted for. Furthermore...................

I give up. No sense in trying to teach basis arithmetic or business principles to morons.

Lastly, if you truly despise your representative as much as you claim you do. Your voice, your actions at reelection time is the most powerful tool/weapon you have at your disposal. Learn to use it! If not, stop your whining!

July 12, 2010 12:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So the matter of how much the city collects in revenue is not a reasonable request? No wonder the city's budget is in such bad shape.

I wonder if 12:45 p.m. is even capable of thinking about the obvious gap in logic behind his or her reasoning.

I hope he or she knows that the people of the 14th Disrict can certainly see the credibility gap quite clearly.

July 12, 2010 3:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:45pm Trust me Huizar has his staffers monitoring all sites now for this type of stuff. Huizar is very nervous knowing everyone is researching all his motions and especially the deals he's done with downtown developers.

July 12, 2010 5:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

After a while these stories get old... we aren't even close to the election and this is has already turned into a gossip game.

Huizar... Martinez? How are they any different?
Both middle aged hispanics, both ignorant in their own right, both have egos that can't fit in the room, both womanizers. WHO CARES????

Neither one is fit to lead this community, when are we going to get a candidate with a combination of brain, balls and education?

The truth is I'm not voting this coming up election, unless a true candidate comes out of nowhere.

Huizar needs to get a real job and Martinez needs to focus on making his restaurant better because that place serves horrible sushi.

July 12, 2010 8:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:45 your information is very insightful and indulging...I love how the adjective "reasonable" is always utilized for "fuzziness"....it's like using the word "fair"....Since it seems you have inside info on how the system works, it must mean you work for Huizar...funny how Huizar's little worker bees have the same condescending tone...Besides, What's in the hive? Show us the Money...Honey!...Only then will WE stop droning...

July 12, 2010 9:25 PM  

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