Friends Don't Let Friends Vote for Walter Moore
It is with disappointment I write this but I can't vote for Walter Moore for Mayor.
And I would urge you not to do so either.
When Walter Moore first announced he would run again following his loss in 2005 I was enthusiastic about his campaign and chances and made a contribution to his campaign. However over time as I've gotten to know Moore better and watch his campaign I've found that he does not have the temperament nor personality to be in elected office and hence I can not support him.
Not that Antonio Villaraigosa or just about anyone else in politics do either, but as I've pointed out before the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again but expecting different results.
There are some very key reasons why I can not support Walter Moore, all of which lead to why I can not see him as being an effective Mayor. Some of them are based on personal experience and you will have to take it for what it's worth. Some it's based on the observations of others, which I can not guarantee are accurate or not, but I trust the individuals who have shared the information with me. The rest of it's based on items that have been reported on blogs or in the media.
Let us start.
First off I find Moore to be arrogant. Some have noted this in his performance in debates. He's been known to make snide remarks about his opponents while they were speaking. Snide remarks may be fine for bloggers but not for candidates seeking to curry favor. I can also speak to Moore's arrogance with at least one personal experience. You may remember back in August when I reported on a little seen City Council agenda item that had the City investing a few million dollars on a book fair in Mexico. My story caught the attention of talk radio and the ire of some Council members. Moore ran the story in his e-blast without attributing it to Mayor Sam. I approached Moore about this and he was not apologetic and his response was "Don't worry Doug (McIntyre) and Kevin (James) will give you credit." After a few more mails exchanged, Moore pathetically sent out another email blast and tried to kiss up. Whatever.
I also think that Moore is selfish. Now he wouldn't be the first nor last politician to grace that description but when you're an upstart, alternative politician seeking to build a movement you need all the friends you can get. Here's one example. Last summer I created a web page encouraging former Daily News editor Ron Kaye to run for City Controller. At the time Moore was working to encourage as many people as possible to run for city offices. I had asked Moore if he would be kind enough to mention my website in his next email blast. After all, I had given Moore hundreds of pages of digital ink here at Mayor Sam and even let him blog here, creating a forum for his views in the early days of his campaign. You would think a little reciprocity would be nice. Moore responded back to me "No can do," stating that his blasts were focused on him and him alone. That was one of the first times I began to suspect Moore was not creating a movement to take back the city but a movement based on Moore himself. How is that any alternative to Villaraigosa?
Moore is self-absorbed and petty. Back in January I had noticed that Moore had not been posting at his campaign blog for a few weeks and I had not received one of his campaign email blasts in some time. Somewhat concerned, I contacted Walter to see if he was okay and how the campaign was going. Walter replied back to me that because he had assumed I was supporting Zuma Dogg for Mayor (something that I had yet to announce one way or the other) he stopped sending me his email blast. I explained to Walter that candidates who I had actually already said I was not supporting - such as Wendy Greuel and Carmen Trutanich - regularly sent me campaign press releases, announcements, etc. I found Moore's actions and comments childish.
Moore appears to have a problem with the diversity of Los Angeles. Many of us who are closed border and immigration reform advocates don't fall into the anti-immigrant rhetoric of many of the supporters of Moore's. Blogger Debbie Lopez aptly notes her experience at a Moore campaign rally where she saw such fervor. It's easy to call a person racist and as one who has been the target of those charges myself, I don't toss that epithet lightly. I don't allege that Moore himself is a racist but his comments and actions are tinged with a lack of respect for LA's cultural cacophony. Advocating for reform to issues of illegal immigration does not mean we have to not take joy at the culture brought to our city by immigrants. On the other hand Moore finds trouble with Spanish radio stations. Even more troubling is his desire to make Los Angeles an "American city" that apparently means banning taco stands and TV novelas on Spanish language TV, something many gringos take a guilty pleasure in. Even when asked to offer a greeting to the Spanish speaking viewers of our internet debate, unlike all of the other candidates, Moore refused, offering instead to speak in French. Maybe a funny joke, but again, a sign of disrespect.
I find Moore to be a poor decision-maker. First lets start off with how, according to current LA City Ethics Commission records, he has spent the nearly $300,000 he collected in both private contributions and taxpayer funded public campaign financing.on things like campaign hats, bumper stickers, yard signs, fliers and radio advertising. For sure, these are all things typically associated with campaigns. But anyone who has worked on campaigns knows that getting elected requires getting out the vote. In his filings, I see nothing with respect to hiring a consultant to manage get out the vote efforts, setting up a phone banking operation or anything related to those mission critical campaign items. A campaign office, bumper stickers, rallies, radio and TV commercials are great things to stoke a candidate's ego but they are not the most important part of getting out the vote. We know Mayor Villaraigosa has troops out there this weekend. They may motivate Moore's base but his base isn't sufficient enough to get him elected. There is no indication on Moore's wesbite of phonebanking or precinct walking activities, indeed the only activity I see over the weekend was an hour and half long event at Moore's office where he handed out fliers to fans. All of this leads me to question if Moore is serious about winning. I believe he has wasted significant resources and significant opportunity. Radio talk show host Kevin James who I have great respect for makes the point that Walter is the only candidate who got out early raising money. Fair enough. But how Walter has spent the money raises serious concerns for this blogger and gives me pause as to what kind of manager Moore would be.
There are a number of disturbing things many have told me with respect to their interaction with Walter. But because these are sometimes third party accounts and their side of the story I won't go into them specifically here. I feel my own experiences and that which is already documented are sufficient cause to not give Walter Moore my vote.
I know there are many people who have strong convictions as to many of the issues Walter Moore has discussed during the campaign. I would suggest you review the record and philosophy of candidates such as Zuma Dogg, David Hernandez and Phil Jennerjahn who all express similar viewpoints to Moore on the important issues but bring different qualities to the race.
It's not easy to have to admit I was wrong about Walter and I know that many who support me will be upset. That being said I had to speak my mind. The most important thing is that everyone vote!
And I would urge you not to do so either.
When Walter Moore first announced he would run again following his loss in 2005 I was enthusiastic about his campaign and chances and made a contribution to his campaign. However over time as I've gotten to know Moore better and watch his campaign I've found that he does not have the temperament nor personality to be in elected office and hence I can not support him.
Not that Antonio Villaraigosa or just about anyone else in politics do either, but as I've pointed out before the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again but expecting different results.
There are some very key reasons why I can not support Walter Moore, all of which lead to why I can not see him as being an effective Mayor. Some of them are based on personal experience and you will have to take it for what it's worth. Some it's based on the observations of others, which I can not guarantee are accurate or not, but I trust the individuals who have shared the information with me. The rest of it's based on items that have been reported on blogs or in the media.
Let us start.
First off I find Moore to be arrogant. Some have noted this in his performance in debates. He's been known to make snide remarks about his opponents while they were speaking. Snide remarks may be fine for bloggers but not for candidates seeking to curry favor. I can also speak to Moore's arrogance with at least one personal experience. You may remember back in August when I reported on a little seen City Council agenda item that had the City investing a few million dollars on a book fair in Mexico. My story caught the attention of talk radio and the ire of some Council members. Moore ran the story in his e-blast without attributing it to Mayor Sam. I approached Moore about this and he was not apologetic and his response was "Don't worry Doug (McIntyre) and Kevin (James) will give you credit." After a few more mails exchanged, Moore pathetically sent out another email blast and tried to kiss up. Whatever.
I also think that Moore is selfish. Now he wouldn't be the first nor last politician to grace that description but when you're an upstart, alternative politician seeking to build a movement you need all the friends you can get. Here's one example. Last summer I created a web page encouraging former Daily News editor Ron Kaye to run for City Controller. At the time Moore was working to encourage as many people as possible to run for city offices. I had asked Moore if he would be kind enough to mention my website in his next email blast. After all, I had given Moore hundreds of pages of digital ink here at Mayor Sam and even let him blog here, creating a forum for his views in the early days of his campaign. You would think a little reciprocity would be nice. Moore responded back to me "No can do," stating that his blasts were focused on him and him alone. That was one of the first times I began to suspect Moore was not creating a movement to take back the city but a movement based on Moore himself. How is that any alternative to Villaraigosa?
Moore is self-absorbed and petty. Back in January I had noticed that Moore had not been posting at his campaign blog for a few weeks and I had not received one of his campaign email blasts in some time. Somewhat concerned, I contacted Walter to see if he was okay and how the campaign was going. Walter replied back to me that because he had assumed I was supporting Zuma Dogg for Mayor (something that I had yet to announce one way or the other) he stopped sending me his email blast. I explained to Walter that candidates who I had actually already said I was not supporting - such as Wendy Greuel and Carmen Trutanich - regularly sent me campaign press releases, announcements, etc. I found Moore's actions and comments childish.
Moore appears to have a problem with the diversity of Los Angeles. Many of us who are closed border and immigration reform advocates don't fall into the anti-immigrant rhetoric of many of the supporters of Moore's. Blogger Debbie Lopez aptly notes her experience at a Moore campaign rally where she saw such fervor. It's easy to call a person racist and as one who has been the target of those charges myself, I don't toss that epithet lightly. I don't allege that Moore himself is a racist but his comments and actions are tinged with a lack of respect for LA's cultural cacophony. Advocating for reform to issues of illegal immigration does not mean we have to not take joy at the culture brought to our city by immigrants. On the other hand Moore finds trouble with Spanish radio stations. Even more troubling is his desire to make Los Angeles an "American city" that apparently means banning taco stands and TV novelas on Spanish language TV, something many gringos take a guilty pleasure in. Even when asked to offer a greeting to the Spanish speaking viewers of our internet debate, unlike all of the other candidates, Moore refused, offering instead to speak in French. Maybe a funny joke, but again, a sign of disrespect.
I find Moore to be a poor decision-maker. First lets start off with how, according to current LA City Ethics Commission records, he has spent the nearly $300,000 he collected in both private contributions and taxpayer funded public campaign financing.on things like campaign hats, bumper stickers, yard signs, fliers and radio advertising. For sure, these are all things typically associated with campaigns. But anyone who has worked on campaigns knows that getting elected requires getting out the vote. In his filings, I see nothing with respect to hiring a consultant to manage get out the vote efforts, setting up a phone banking operation or anything related to those mission critical campaign items. A campaign office, bumper stickers, rallies, radio and TV commercials are great things to stoke a candidate's ego but they are not the most important part of getting out the vote. We know Mayor Villaraigosa has troops out there this weekend. They may motivate Moore's base but his base isn't sufficient enough to get him elected. There is no indication on Moore's wesbite of phonebanking or precinct walking activities, indeed the only activity I see over the weekend was an hour and half long event at Moore's office where he handed out fliers to fans. All of this leads me to question if Moore is serious about winning. I believe he has wasted significant resources and significant opportunity. Radio talk show host Kevin James who I have great respect for makes the point that Walter is the only candidate who got out early raising money. Fair enough. But how Walter has spent the money raises serious concerns for this blogger and gives me pause as to what kind of manager Moore would be.
There are a number of disturbing things many have told me with respect to their interaction with Walter. But because these are sometimes third party accounts and their side of the story I won't go into them specifically here. I feel my own experiences and that which is already documented are sufficient cause to not give Walter Moore my vote.
I know there are many people who have strong convictions as to many of the issues Walter Moore has discussed during the campaign. I would suggest you review the record and philosophy of candidates such as Zuma Dogg, David Hernandez and Phil Jennerjahn who all express similar viewpoints to Moore on the important issues but bring different qualities to the race.
It's not easy to have to admit I was wrong about Walter and I know that many who support me will be upset. That being said I had to speak my mind. The most important thing is that everyone vote!
Labels: 2009 mayoral election, David "Zuma Dogg" Saltsburg, david hernandez, doug mcintyre, kevin james, mayor antonio villaraigosa, phil jennerjahn, walter moore
80 Comments:
Anonymous said:
Tell us Oh Great Sage of Eating, who DO you endorse?
And let me get this straight, in a runoff, you're voting for Villaraigosa over Walter, right?
Let us know. Not that you haven't already waited long enough.
While you're at it, please let us know what Phil has accomplished professionally.
Anonymous said:
higby, where'd ya get the photograph? he looks like david duke.
Anonymous said:
Well done, Michael Higby!!
Glad you had the courage to say it here.
You are merely repeating things that people have picked up on about Walter during the campaign.
Everything seems to be about him, and he seems to be predisposed to burning bridges instead of building them.
I guarantee you that you are now persona non grata at the Moore campaign, but the election is tomorrow...so ... no big deal.
Well done.
I have always said that people who act the way Walter does do not inspire people to follow them.
Tomorrow we will see if I am right.
By the way...my campaign is really taking off on Facebook among all the Conservatives.
People I've never met are openly declaring that they are voting for me.
It feels pretty good.
And I'll be sure to thank you in the media for all the work you have done for this political season and all the candidates.
Anonymous said:
To accuse Walter Moore of arrogance while supporting Zuma Dogg is pathetic.
Youu have zero credibility here Higby. Zero.
Anonymous said:
arrogant + selfish + self aborbed + petty = Bush era Republican.
Good for you Higby, now I'll consider you an Obama Republican.
Whatever happened to compassionate conservatism?
My own experience with Walter - while at Princeton - led me to conclude that this was an individual who was never really comfortable in his skin. Always trying to one up the minorities on campus to show that this trailer park trash realy belonged at an Ivy League school. He obviously went about it the wrong way - (look at who we have as president now, I bet he wishes he had made friends with Michelle at the Third World Center at Princeton).
His mightier than thou persona tanslates directly into his present public demeanor. What a waste of taxpayer dollars to fund his campaign. How can you run an "anti-mexican" campaign in the second largest mexican city in the world. What a moron. And just so you know Walter, per capita there are more French speakers in Mexico than in the U.S. - something to do with a more cosmopolitan outlook on life.
What a tragic petty little life you lead Walter, maybe you should go find a skinhead commune in the hills of Idaho.
Anonymous said:
that's sore mary, 12:13. put your hard hats on. this broken down old matress will be on this thread day and night.
Anonymous said:
Mary said
"My own experience with Walter - while at Princeton - led me to conclude that this was an individual..."
ha, ha, ha
Anonymous said:
Quick Jack Weiss, run over to Wikipedia and put up your propaganda, while MC's tied all up over here!
Anonymous said:
Phil:
I have asked countless times, and the public would like to know, WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED IN YOUR CAREER?
If you want our votes, let us know what QUALIFIES you to be Mayor.
Set Walter, ZD and the others aside for a moment. In fact, just tell us how you're more qualified than Antonio. Tell us what you've accomplished.
There is a great diversity in this election. Some have houses. Some have rentals. And some are homeless. Which one are you, Phil?
I'm prepared to vote for you based on your response. What have you accomplished in your career that will win over my vote?
Anonymous said:
Hey Walter -
You can keep calling Higby fat but it won't get you more votes!
Jim Alger said:
What I find laughable is that anyone thinks this type of 11th hour hit is needed. Anyone who believes Zuma Dog has the temperament to be Mayor ought to have his head examined but the entire discussion is academic.
II have little doubt that these "endorsements" mean absolutely nothing but I will throw my 2 cents into the pot here:
MAYOR - ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA - For all the talk and political cheap-shots he actually has done a pretty decent job as Mayor. Yes, he screwed us on Sunshine Canyon and the trash fee increases but we have kind of gotten used to that and you can't be a single issue constituent. He has been working very hard to lobby for Federal aid in Los Angeles with success and given the current economic climate, that is a big deal. This is probably why no serious candidate has emerged to challenge the Mayor.
CONTROLLER - WENDY GREUEL - Wendy proved herself to me, her constituents and the City when she stood up for the folks in Sunland Tujunga against Home Depot. She did so when many people, including this Blog, hit her for doing so. In the end, she and the community prevailed. It was Wendy who when my father passed away adjourned City Council in his honor and while a small gesture it meant allot to me personally. I am not a major fundraiser, nor a lobbyist but Wendy has always been accessible. I have found that I am not alone as she routinely confers with constituents and other "average folks." This type of humility demonstrates her connection to the people and I believe she will look out for all of us as controller.
CITY ATTORNEY - CARMEN TRUTANICH - This is one of those situations where I would almost vote for Zuma Dogg over Jack Weiss (I said almost). The truth is I would be torn because NOTHING could be worse for Los Angeles than Jack Weiss at the helm of all things legal. Jack has displayed a disdain for the people not shown by many politicians publicly. Of all the candidates running against him, the one that seems to have his act together is Carmen Trutanich.
MEASURE B: NO. As a rule of thumb I oppose anything that the City Council tries to rush past the people but fewer initiatives have been pushed through with as little information as this one. I don't take issue with the goals of Measure B or even the fact IBEW is involved, those are cheap political shots, my issue is that we need to know costs. Too much "hide the ball" has been going on with this measure. It is painfully obvious the people have no idea what they are voting on, nor did the City Council when they put it on the ballot.
So, there is my 2 cents folks. Higby keeps trying to tell me how "big" I am on the blogs as a way to justify running ridiculous stories about me so I will throw my "influence" out there with this caviat: Anyone who votes based on endorsements, has no business voting.
Blog away dum dums. :)
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Unknown said:
I concur with you Jim about Wendy Greuel. I find her to be accessible,
effective, and trustworthy. She'll have my vote and probably a great deal of support from Sunland-Tujunga.
Anonymous said:
Boo hoo, my blog didnt get mentioned in official election correspondence.. GROW UP, loser.
Anonymous said:
Mayor Sam's Sister City: Moore Is Less
The blush is definitely off the romance between the city's leading center-right blog and immigrant-bashing, billboard-friendly mayoral candidate Walter Moore. Of all the snowball-in-hell long-shots running against incumbent Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Moore, an L.A.
attorney, has raised the most money and been able to peddle himself the most successfully to the media -- figuring favorably in several Steve Lopez columns in the L.A. Times. Today, however, Michael Higby, who operates the highly read Mayor Sam's Sister City blog, publicly denounces Moore in a post titled, "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote for Walter Moore."
read moore
http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/
Anonymous said:
http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/mayor-sams-sister-city-moore-i/#more
Anonymous said:
Every one of you jerkoffs should be focusing your energy into getting VillaLaRaza out of office. Instead, this petty juvenile bickering. And you wonder why you fail...
Anonymous said:
Wow, Jim. Those are fascinating picks!
Who do you like in the Super Bowl, Pittsburgh or Arizona? What is the final score going to be?
You're really going out on a limb, aren't you?
Anonymous said:
From the LA Weekly blog
"Higby also notes that while Moore has raised nearly $300,000, the candidate has apparently blown it all on lawn signs and bumper stickers, while making no effort to set up a phone banking system or organize precinct walkers who would canvas neighborhoods for his candidacy. In other words, Moore's campaign appears to be nothing but a narcissistic gesture and not a serious effort to challenge Villaraigosa."
Anonymous said:
"How can you run an "anti-mexican" campaign in the second largest mexican city in the world. "
That's funny, here I thought this was the second largest AMERICAN city...
Anonymous said:
1:04 Seriously? What are the alternatives? Higby's infatuation with ZD is a complete joke.
The news that Jim just made is he is OPPOSED to measure B which many have been trying to spin the opposite.
Beyond that, he sounds like a voice of reason, providing rationale context to a field of lunatics.
Anonymous said:
My hat's off to you, Michael Higby. Walter's spinners are having a meltdown. They considered this blog their base.
Anonymous said:
Tomorrow the voters will demonstrate how irrelevant this blog and Higby's delusions are.
Anonymous said:
So basically, because Moore refused to kiss your ass, you take a shot at him on your blog?
You attack Moore for "making snide remarks" but Zuma can call people "crybaby loser" all day and THAT is OK for a "Mayoral Candidate?"
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds Higby.
Anonymous said:
The difference between Zuma and Walter is Zuma will criticize people to their face.
Parque Esqueleto said:
First you were right (when you had Wacko Walter listed as a "gadfly" with the likes of Hal Netkin).
Then you were wrong. When you tried to help rehabilitate the "Wacked One."
Now you're right again.
You opposed him, before you supported him, before you opposed him. I believe that's what's known as the "Inverted Double Kerry Flip-Flop-Flip" (maybe with a "Half Twist" (but welcome back to your sanity, Mayor Sam).
Now if you could just SMELL what the Dogg is leaving behind, too!
Anonymous said:
The word on the streets among GOP operatives is that Jennerjahn and Hernadez will outrun Moore. Republicans have true Republican candidates this time around and both are ex GIs. That's playing well with the Vets. Hernandez is going to take Latino votes away from Villar.
Moore isn't even getting half the votes he had four years ago.
Anonymous said:
You attack Moore for "making snide remarks" but Zuma can call people "crybaby loser" all day and THAT is OK for a "Mayoral Candidate?"
Zuma doesn't call "people" crybaby loser. He calls ONE person that. And he never names him. He doesn't make snide direct personal attacks about other candidates at debates like Wacko does and he doesn't snear at them. At the great debate Wacko looked like he has ADD. He hyperventilated every time someone else talked.
Anonymous said:
Holy Shit, (sorry Supervisor Antonovich) Alger is almost (I said almost) as arrogant as Walter Moore.
Jim, STFU and go make me a sandwich.
Anonymous said:
Does anyone care what Alger thinks?
Anonymous said:
Dear Fatso,
McIntyre and Kevin James will NEVER plug your blog or have your fat ass on again.
Sorry fat guy.
Walter wins.
You heard it here first.
Anonymous said:
One difference between Alger and Moore is that Alger knows how to run a campaign.
Anonymous said:
Had David, Phil and Zuma gotten in this earlier, that money Walter took would have gone to them. Walter spent it on his vanity, not on getting votes. He gave away vanity trinkets to people who already supported him. So that money means nothing. Walter lost the Shaws and their followers. Republicans that supported him last time have candidates that aren't wacko. And he lost Higby, which is a big deal. It reflects the thinking of other moderate Republicans. Might as well face it, Walter's toast tomorrow.
Anonymous said:
1:47 PM, Did McIntyre and James authorize you to m-m-make such a threat on their behalf? Don't think s-s-so.
Anonymous said:
divide, check; conquer, check.
Have a nice day!
Jim Alger said:
1:45 - I truly hope not but Mr. Higby seems to think so.
1:43 - There wasn't an iota of arrogance in my post. You can disagree with my post, but to accuse it of being arrogant I think not.
1:41 (Zuma Dogg) - You call more than just one person crybaby and loser or both. Your lack of being able to take criticism without lashing out in personal attacks proves you to be unfit for office. Or have we forgotten the fact that you threatened ME because I say what I think?
That threw Mr. Dogg into a hissy fit where he then threatened to lash out at me at a City Council meeting if I didn't keep quiet.
Yes Mike, that is just what we want from our candidates for Mayor, threats of retribution.
Anonymous said:
Dummies,
If someone votes for anyone but antonio its one less vote for antonio.
no one is going to say oh higby's right i won't vote for walter so i will vote for the mayor.
they will vote for zuma dogg or hernandez or craig x.
get it?
Anonymous said:
http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/mayor-sams-sister-city-moore-i/#more
Anonymous said:
Joe B -
We can't have Wendy guarding Antonio.
sorry.
Its better she is your councilperson.
Anonymous said:
1:47 - Seriously man, is the personal attack necessary?
It must be nice to be as perfect as you, to have no ailments or problems that other low-lifes such as yourself could insult.
We may disagree with Mike on things, lord knows I do, but to go after a guy personally like that is uncalled for.
Anonymous said:
MH, It takes guts to admit you were wrong about Walter Moore. I commend you.
Michael Higby said:
Jim - That's what we have from your candidate for Mayor NOW! Just ask the people who work for him!
Anyway Zuma Dogg didn't threaten you. He - in his Zuma Dogg way - was calling you out because he believed you were wrong and was telling you what he planned to do to prove it. I am sure he would be willing to debate you anytime, anywhere.
Anonymous said:
"IN ZUMA'S OWN WAY" Higby, you've GOT to be kidding!
"Zuma's way" is what got him "taken in" to the police station last week after doing to Craig X. Rubin what he did to Alger.
In his own way. You've got to be kidding, Higby. Really, you are having a M-m-m-meltdown.
Higby, make a prediction: Will Zuma Dogg get more than 500 votes? Yes or no. You can finish your sandwich first.
Anonymous said:
Hey Alger!
Looks like Zuma was released by the police and no charges filed.
Have not heard anything from Cannabis Rubin or Wacko Walter on the matter since.
Zuma was not arrested.
Can you say the same?
Anonymous said:
Higby, congrats on a great piece. We all know Antonio is going to get reelected. The bigger and more important issue at hand is who is going to be the face of the opposition.
Any further elevation of Walter Moore as a credible individual is a disservice to the movement against City Hall.
Anonymous said:
I can say that Walter has not been arrested ever. I checked.
But on top of it, he has never "been brought in" by the po-lice.
Zuma can't say that. Speaking of that, Zuma HAS been arrested in the past. Shall we get down to why? Or can you look it up too? I tried to post the arrest here, but Fatso took it down, even tho it is public record listings.
DR. DEMING!
DR. DEMING!
DR. DEMING!
Anonymous said:
Mary @ 2:51 PM,
You're calling your own name here and on Mailander's blog won't work to hide your obsessive posts for Walter Moore and smears against Higby, Zuma Dogg and Walter's other opponents. Craig's "Way" was responsible for the faked incident, not Zuma's. Craig has lied about those "threats" in his posts on MS. That has been pointed out to you but you refuse to get it into your thick head.
First Craig said he had it on a phone message. Later he recanted. As one who claims to have been dragged in herself, and has posted up and emailed that she was "wrongfully" taken in by LAPD, you of all people should know better. But regardless of how often it's explained to you, you come back and smear Zuma Dogg again with this trumped up charge.
You really should see a doctor for your obsessive hatred of Zuma Dogg and this Attention Deficit Disorder Disease that prevents you from retaining the truth.
Anonymous said:
still waiting for Phil to tell us what he's accomplished in his career, or even via volunteering. maybe higby can tell us, since he said he's a viable candidate.
Anonymous said:
M-m-mary is not making the posts. Can anyone tell me more about her? I don't want to be confused for someone else.
Anonymous said:
M-m-mary is not making the posts.
Yea, you are. Your Wacko's Loon. With so little credibility that you must fake-post that you aren't you. When are you going to give up trying to get yourself a piece in city politics? You always lose.
Anonymous said:
So now Patrick Range McDonald, his boss Jill Stewart and the rest at the Weekly Daily are getting their news from this blog? Calling it the most read or reliable or something "center-right" blog? No wonder their paper has become what it is.
What, now that zuma's become a celebrity "mayoral candidate" as well as renowned expert on Deming and Wall Street, he's too busy and they can't get him anymore?
Jim Alger said:
Mike,
Zuma has been threatening to "expose" my run in with the company back in Arkansas for some time now. (His constant reference to the deer accident) Whenever I say something he doesn't like he throws that over my head... as if I care. So do not insult my intelligence by saying it wasn't a threat, it was most definitely a threat.
As for the nincompoop who likes to bring my "record" into the conversation, I don't have one. Yes, 17 years ago I had a run-in with the police, that case has long-ago been dismissed. I have gotten much older, and wiser, since then and with the exception of a speeding ticket 2 years ago, have not had any negative interaction with the police whatsoever.
I actually don't blame Zuma Dogg for his most recent run-in as that MAY not have been under his control, but it does add to a continuous pattern of socially unacceptable behavior on the part of the capped one in shades.
I have seen no evidence whatsoever that Zuma takes any subject and sees it through to a conclusion. He hop-scotches from one topic to another lambasting those he perceives as "in power." A leader needs to pick a subject and see it to the end. Zuma Dogg is not a leader, he is more like the town jester. He could be a leader, but has chosen his own ego over fighting for real change or the public good.
This man is not a serious candidate and you know it. I don't need to point out why, it is painfully obvious.
I am curious though. You threw Walter under the bus because he "has no campaign." Where is Zuma's phone banks? Where is his GOTV operation? Do share the details of his actual campaign, we'd love to here it.
Or is Walter the only candidate you feel like spanking for stroking his ego?
Anonymous said:
Ditto, Mr. Alger.
Where is ZD's phone banking, and community walk thrus?
Anonymous said:
Where is Zuma's phone banks? Where is his GOTV operation? Do share the details of his actual campaign, we'd love to here it.
Or is Walter the only candidate you feel like spanking for stroking his ego?
AMEN ALGER! That is about the smartest thing I have heard you say.
BRAVO!
Zuma Dogg said:
Jim, You say I posted the comment at 1:41pm. Let me assure all readers that Jim is 100% completely wrong and I did not post anything anonymously. But Jim will make that claim because he knows. Jim, you are the original Craig Rubin. Having to try and attach your name to me. Why are you even commenting on me at all? Can you make a post on this blog without mentioning "Zuma Dogg?" What is your obsession? You and Craig should start a blog.
Michael Higby said:
Jim again - when did Zuma Dogg threaten you?
The deer incident is public knowledge. Heck the company even called me looking for you to get their money.
When it comes to that its their word against yours I guess.
How is it a threat if Zuma Dogg dredges up some old news?
Michael Higby said:
The difference between Walter and Zuma Dogg when it comes to GOTV is that Zuma Dogg didn't blow $300K on hats, whistles, bumper stickers, radio ads, flyers at Kinkos and rallies.
Walter Moore should have hired Jim Alger and put him to work running a GOTV effort.
He would have won.
Michael Higby said:
By the way Jim don't know if you've noticed but Zuma Dogg some time ago rebranded himself. The dancing, the singing, etc. you didn't like (but many others did) is old hat. Have you watched Council meetings on TV35 lately? He doesn't do that stuff anymore. He doesn't even wear the Zuma Dogg outfit.
Is he an unconventional candidate? Yes but there have been many others. If we're going to have a wholesale transformation of local government, he's the guy to do it.
Cleaning house Jim.
Michael Higby said:
By the way, how did I throw Walter under he bus Jim?
Anonymous said:
I am sure Mayor Sam would like to thank you all for your clickety-clicks.
Jim Alger said:
LOL Mike,
I wouldn't work for Walter are you nuts?
I say threw him under the bus because you kneecapped him the day before the election. The bigger point is Zuma Dogg is all the things you claim to dislike Walter for.
A threat is a threat. It isn't "public knowledge" and threatening to make it so in exchange for silence IS a threat. Please don't play dumb.
Zuma, haven't you noticed I want nothing to do with anythiing you do? You are toxic. The idea that I would want to "attach" myself to you is ridiculous on its face, as is the idea you have a chance tomorrow.
Have a great night guys. It's almost 9 and I have to be up at 4am. It has been fun though.
Michael Higby said:
Jim I didn't "knee-cap" Walter. I made a closing argument based on everything that has been said about him so far. It's now up to the jury.
Still can't figure out why you support Villaraigosa. You could sit it out. He seems to be for everything you are against. All the newspapers and magazines say he's a disappointment. Are you working for him Jim?
Anonymous said:
Hey Fatso....
Don't ever, ever call Doug McIntyre or Kevin James again.
You're screwed.
You dumb fat piece of obese shit.
When Walter Moore beats Villaraigosa you and your Mexican friends can cry to Zooma Dog.
Anonymous said:
Excuse me Higby, but Zuma Dogg "rebranded himself" about three weeks ago when he picked up his blue suit and black shirt, which he has worn every day since then.
Maybe YOU haven't noticed, but he spents most of his five minutes of speaking time telling people what media outlet he's been on rather than on the issues.
I don't know about you, but I am bothered by his incessantly repeating the name "Mike Hunt" even if the man's name is Mike or Michael Hunt. He and Matt Dowd do this for nothing other than upsetting people, some of whom are in chambers to actually work.
It's crass and unnecessary. But it's especially unbecoming of someone who fancies themself as an elected official.
Rebranding himself. Yeah, right. Let's see how he dresses the next time he's in chambers. Do you think he'll be back to the cap and glasses the next time he rolls in there after the election?
As to the person who didn't get the comment about higby being too big to get out of bed, be quiet; you don't understand the cultural reference to Dick Gregory's work.
Anonymous said:
Michael:
Zuma "rebranded himself" ?
Surely you jest! Or is it called spinning?
You think Zuma stopped with the singing, dancing, {if that's what you call it} of his own volition?
He didn't stop - the council enforced terms of decorum that prohibited all that nonsense.
Anonymous said:
Hey kids...
Zuma doesn't dance at places other than the Clowncil too.
Nice try.
EPIC FAIL
Anonymous said:
Hey Alger
Who is going to win?
Obama or McCain?
Stupid fucking idiot.
Anonymous said:
Higby, at 5:42 Jim said it was almost 9pm which lends me to believe he is on the east coast the day before the election. I doubt he is working for Villar.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean he is working for the other guy. Jim's argument seemed to be that out of the choices, there are no serious challengers to the mayor - a point that happens to be true.
Anonymous said:
8:39 He is an idiot for stating the obvious (which seems to be your point) while everyone else fights over Moore and the Mutt?
Alger is one of the few to at least say what we all know to be true, that there are no other candidates worthy of the office, or capable of mounting a serious campaign.
Also, as I recall, Alger supported Obama way back when everyone thought it was going to be Hillary so maybe he isn't so stupid after all.
Anonymous said:
Heard on campus “I’m voting for Villaraigosa, this pimp city needs a pimp mayor.”
LOL
I guess that is why we also have the governator.
The Walter Moore’s are on their last days. Their kids are all moving to Portland.
I like TJ can we get a Carnitas Urapan over here? Those are the bomb!!!
Anonymous said:
I asked Moore if he could see a scenario in which Jennerjahn wins Tuesday's election.
"Yes," he said. "A tragic accident kills the other nine candidates."
Anonymous said:
I asked Moore if he could see a scenario in which Jennerjahn wins Tuesday's election.
"Yes," he said. "A tragic accident kills the other nine candidates."
Wacko and his sick loon make a sick joke. Wacko's Loon has also been smearing Mayor Sam and posting vulgarities ever since Mayor Sam put up his thoughtful editorial. Imagine these two cuckoos running the city.
Anonymous said:
Alger at 840 and 845
Anonymous said:
Higby you did a brave thing. Smart, too, because the bad stories about Wacko will continue after this election. Once there is no danger of Wacko getting election press, or if there is a runoff, AV will let loose with his arsenal of negative press. It won't be pretty.
Anonymous said:
March 02, 2009 1:58 PM-My thoughts precisely.
Anonymous said:
In a run off? Ha Ha Ha That is very funny. Dream on losers.
Anonymous said:
March 02, 2009 1:58 PM-My thoughts precisely.
March 02, 2009 11:51 PM
I think it's more along the lines of "Great Minds Thinking Alike".
These things happen.
Anonymous said:
SADLY OUR MAYOR TONY IS GOING TO RUIN YOUR LIVES. THE SOLAR MEASURE IS BUT ONE EXAMPLE. THIS MEASURE ALONE WILL TRIPPLE YOUR DWP BILL PER MONTH. THE SCHOOLS WILL LOOSE FUNDING, JAILS WILL CLOSE , BUSINESES WILL LEAVE, CRIME WILL RAISE, DRUG CARTELS WILL ESTABLISH THEMSELVES IN OUR POLIICAL PROCESS LOOK AT THE DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURIYY SITE AND LEARN FROM JANET NAPOLANO. PEOPLE BEHEADED AT FREEWAY OVERPASSES. GET USE TO IT, IT'S COMING TO YOUR HOME TOWN SOON!!
Anonymous said:
Walter was screwed by the Boyd crime machine and hated Republicans. At a rally back in Nov. I told him we were going to change the leadership of RPLAC (and we did) and that we would probably be on his side. He looked at me and said, "The Republican party is dead. Its like the new Whig party." OK, Maybe that true. But to insult grassroots Republicans like he did without understanding was a bad bad move. Moore's temperament and arrogance was awful. Still, he was much better than Oscar Nominee Villaraigosa who won simply because he is latino.
SFVActivist said:
Unfortunately Walter Moore is illegally supported by Save Our State, a not-for-profit that should NOT make public org political endorsements. Also
Save Our State’s Nightengale Throws Out It’s Northern California Director and Billboard “Driver”. Article LINK:
http://valleynews.com/TheValley/Stories/News/About-Town/Story~624573.aspx
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