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Sunday, February 17, 2008

Sunday Morning Mimosa


JM, Shoes, 2.16.08

Joseph Mailander a guy in laelsewhereemail

[UPDATE: Those looking for the Face the Nation transcript in which Antonio Villaraigosa and Richmond, VA Mayor Doug Wilder squared off this morning in support of Hillary and Barack may find a link to the pdf near the bottom of this page. Or save yourself some time and take my word for it: Antonio tried to paint Hillary as the candidate of unity, and Doug said the Dems were headed to another 1968 if the will of the convention doesn't match the will of the delegate count going into the Convention. In a surprise, Doug reminded viewers that Hillary had eight years to deliver on health care and didn't deliver anything, and Antonio said that we have 800,000 more insured in California thanks to Hillary.]

The past is prologue....

The Randal Simmons tragedy was also an enormous tragedy for the family of the gunman, and The Daily News is there to describe the other funeral. Social historians looking across the generations will find it interesting to note that the father, Geraldo, who also lost his life, had earlier lost his farm and had his home destroyed and his ten cattle stolen during the war in El Salvador.

Social historians also used to find Huntington Library to be a target-rich environment, but not anymore. Remember the days when the Huntington was positively indifferent to drawing crowds and "competing" as a museum? It's new Chinese Garden seems out of step with the longtime icily conservatory and academic character of the organization.

"'The garden is a way the Huntington can throw open its doors to an increasingly Chinese neighborhood and an increasingly Chinese world,' [Suzy Moser, assistant vice president for advancement] said." The mere fact that the Huntington even has a vp of "advancement" let alone is worried about "collaborating with communities" on identity-driven projects comes as a surprise.

The new garden opens next Saturday. I suppose the new identity-market Huntington hasn't gone quite so far as to invite the throngs to explore the irony and ponder what percentage of the Huntington fortune was built on Chinese labor.

Then again, it's not surprising that the past is so quickly forgotten; and LA may be the place where it gets its most notoriously extreme make-over. "I thought Europe was a country," Kellie Pickler once said on "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?" Are Americans hostile to knowledge? wondered the New York Times a couple of days ago, touting some books that explore the ascendancy of solipsistic culture.

Even so, some local high profile orgs are good at re-acquainting us with the past. LA Opera rolls out the second season of Recovered Voices, opera and song of composers nearly rendered completely obscure by Nazi Germany, and the Downtown News applauds in a cultural editorial. Alexander Zemlinsky's The Dwarf and Viktor Ullman's The Broken Jug are at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion for the next few weekends, starting today; click the link for ticket information.

For some idea of the impact of this series, see Rodney Punt's description of the ambitions of the series in its inaugural year. Then see his review Forbidden Music to trace the paths of many of the composers who faced suppression, imprisonment, exile, and holocaust in the 1930's and 1940's.

And finally, the long-beloved February Barney's sale at Barker Hanger at Santa Monica Airport continues today and ends tomorrow. Items the final weekend are 50% off and sometimes more. Men often find it's a good place to grab a dress shirt, and women especially like the markdowns on designer shoes, though there are plenty of other items for all. I know it's the west side, but certainly City Hall cubicle farm dwellers on four through seventeen, currently sporting lots of frayed collars and cuffs, can mostly benefit.

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88 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

San Marino has been the Chinese Beverly Hills for a long time.

The news is what, exactly?

As for the Rivera family, they're not getting a whole lot of sympathy from the general public, nor did they even mention Ofc. Simmons in their eulogy. People thought they should have asked forgiveness of his family and at least had their priest said a prayer for Simmons, who died trying to save them.

The father came to this country illegally and apparently got amnesty through some general program later, and reports say "the sons were believed to be born in this country." The Salvadoran Consulate gave them funds toward their funeral as "expatriates," and virtually all their friends and family are in the Salvadoran community. Of course it's sad, but the father should have been deported when he came illegally, he was a financial refugee. There are millions from Rwanda to India and Romania, who could claim the same, but don't happen to live next to the United States and sneak in.

Had Geraldo and all like him been sent back, and told to apply legally IF he really was a victim of persecution like others must from Russia to Romania, he and his sons would still be alive and so would Officer Simmons. Along with illegals who intend to work honestly and keep their kids out of gangs, come the gangbangers making us the Gang Capitol of the World, an it's a world too hard for many of their kids to resist after all.

RIP to all of them, and let us learn from this tragedy.

February 17, 2008 8:41 AM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

To my "BLOGGIN MENTOR,

Was Imelda Marcos having a used shoes sale??

February 17, 2008 10:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymouse 8:41, you are a shrieking yenta of the worst kind, your dreck on the tragic death of the sorely missed officer Simmons is typical of your disgusting schlock, put forth without a thought about any kind of truth, only your own sick agenda.
Your tirade is indicative of the schmuck you are.

February 17, 2008 11:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Had Geraldo and all like him been sent back, and told to apply legally IF he really was a victim of persecution like others must from Russia to Romania, he and his sons would still be alive and so would Officer Simmons.

OK, we heard ya all day, all night and again in the AM. You make those of us that honestly support closed borders for decent practical reasons sound like corrupt racists. Does that rock your world? Good. Now banish yourself, hater. You are in a minority of one, you've posted your ugly racist rants ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts in this tragedy. Officer Simmons was killed by a nut with a gun.

As for the Rivera family funeral, and how they expressed their own sorrow, who are you The Grief Police?

February 17, 2008 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^^^

Hear hear! Now maybe the serious discussion relating to the border crisis can be dealt with without racist drivel corrupting the important dialogue.

February 17, 2008 11:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To Posters on this blog who
scream "racism":

It is Mexico's PUBLICLY
STATED agenda to colonize the
USA! Anyone who throws the
"Race Card" is a fool and in
denial of the Rule of Law and
the Facts on the Ground!
Calderon is here to review
and urge on the 20+ million
illegal alien footsoldiers
hell bent on Balkanizing the
USA!!

February 17, 2008 11:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:15/ 19/ 29 all the same person. What a funny coincidence, all those similar attacks coming at once.

You have nothing to say, you are the lone apologist for illegals popping up constantly pretending to be for fair legalization. You work for the Friends of Calderon like Cardenas and Alarcon.

I've helped people as a legal volunteer apply for asylum as genuine refugees fleeing persecution, from Russia, Ukraine, Serbian ethnic cleansing and other Eastern European countries. These people have to spend thousands and wait years figting deportations if they come here married to a citizen who divorces them, or on a tourist visa, during which they can't work, or it's a Catch 22, they'll never get legal status.

None of these people commit crimes, they have all been persecuted for their political or ethnic beliefs, or just being the wrong minority. They are all educated and learned English in the first year. They've all been grossly discriminated against compared against compared to your Mexican and Salvadoran illegals. Immigrants which bring all their third-world gangland problems and culture with them.

More than half, some two-thirds, have been denied asylum, because it's hard to "prove" the facts.

Never mind the English-speaking and hardworking Indians and Chinese.

Tijuana has had 50 murders since January 1st alone, and foreigners are shunning it compared to more expensive San Diego. Lucky for us we are bringing not only the population, but also the hellish problems, of Latinismo HERE.

Now we must have Cardenas, Reyes, Alarcon and the rest shoving these people into the midst of Hollywood, the Westside and coastal areas and the West Valley in the guise of "affordable housing."

Reyes insists on shoving these monstrosities into our residential neighborhoods without parking, so that our congestion will be worse, and property values plummet further.

It's funnny how the L A Times article on the Tijuana officials trying to lure tourists back to their city mentions that the patios have turned down their blaring music. Something else the "spoiled and selfish rich" have to look forward to as these people sweep into their neighborhoods: blaring music, with 50 people in one small apartment, and all their old cars crowding the congested streets.

If Reyes and Cardenas have their way, there will be no quiet, "American"- style streets left in L A. (Guess we'll have to move south where the rich live in huge houses behind community gates for far less than it costs here.) Gangs will feel more comfortable infiltrating.

Clinics are closing so legal poor will no longer have access because the millions of illegals from Latin America have crashed the system.

LAUSD needs to be crashed for the same reason.

All of this, and the Salvadoran gangs which sucked in this shooter, and made the family helpless, and killed the Officer, all stem from a refusal to subject Hispanics to the immigration laws.

Why do you think McCain has shifted much further to the right on illegal immigration lately, now that he is the Republican candidate and wants to win?

Why will Obama with his pandering to illegals, go down in flames?

The American people are not racist, they know that you apologists are bleeding this city, county and country dry. Your pro-Hispanic racism and discrimination against the persecuted and poor from other countries is the real disgrace.

Enforce the immigration laws, deport illegals instead of rewarding them, unless they apply for political amnesty and go through a fair hearing process.

Then these problems will not happen and America can continue as it has, with controlled immigration and control over its streets. Repeal SP40, and save more Ofcr Simmonses.

When McCain takes over, we can start to give Americans a voice, you destroyers will be done.

February 17, 2008 11:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
well said..

February 17, 2008 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:15/ 19/ 29 all the same person. What a funny coincidence, all those similar attacks coming at once.

****************************

Where is Don Quixote and Santaigo on this subject. Don Quixote will tell us what an asset all the illegal aliens are to our city, and Santiago will agree and complement his comments.

Makes me go hmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

February 17, 2008 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here is what a former L.A. Sheriff and gang expert who really knows and does not just speculate about the subject of mexican cartels and Tijuana's problems .

http://www.fulldisclosure.net/Programs/479-480.php

'

February 17, 2008 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

yada yada yada

February 17, 2008 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.fulldisclosure.net/Programs/479-480.php

yada yada yada

February 17, 2008 12:38 PM

Your comment was an unsuccessfull spin...to bad..

February 17, 2008 1:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:16 whines,

Don Quixote and Santaigo are picking on me

HUH?

February 17, 2008 1:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 11:51, :59, 12:05, :16,
(and :29, same jackass begging to read it's own multiple-personality posts)

The U.S. borders must be patroled, immigration controlled, and there are a plethora of fine arguments supporting this by intelligent, law abiding Americans. We're a huge and growing group, but you aren't among us, and we don't need your racism tainting this issue.

To say that Hispanic gangs are responsible for all this country's gang violence, and to connect that by a thin thread to the sorrowful death of Officer Randal Simmons, is ignorant, racist, and ill-informed.

This is a list of California street gangs, from Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_street_gangs

Of the 11 most vicious Los Angeles gangs, six are Hispanic, five are black. LAPD's Most Wanted Criminal Vahagan Akopyan belongs to the gang, Armenian Power.

Gangs have infiltrated every culture in American society. It's a sad commentary on our culture of violence, and on our parenting skills. Fixing immigration will solve other problems, but unfortunately not gang violence and racism against blacks. The KKK is a "native American gang", as you ignorantly stated yesterday.

I don't go hmmmmmmmmmmmm when I see that your alter egos are missing in this dialogue. I, for one, am delighted that you're being controlled for a change and that Mayor Sam and ZD notice how you ranted off-topic in those identities and posted like a quack.

It's inevitible that there is some board with like-minded ultra right-wing mad-at-the-world loudmouths that assent to your racist views and won't care about your hatred and talking out of your ass. Please give the rest of us our hard-earned break and find it.

February 17, 2008 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am the one who made the prediction the morning Simmons was killed. I said it was probably a gang member illegal immigrant from Mexico or El Salvador. I was damn close.. the only thing I got wrong was, his FATHER was the illegal immigrant.

In LA you can repeat my prediction any time a violent crime is committed and be correct 75% of the time. Just read the LATimes homocide report. It's a no-brainer. A winning bet.

1:57, I'm sorry the facts aren't on your side. Take your grandstanding elsewhere.

February 17, 2008 2:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sheesh!What part of "they were citizens" don't you get?

LAPD has stated that Rivera probably wasn't in a gang. He was a seriously mentally ill American born citizen, according to LAPD experts. Not too different from the teenaged shooters in Columbine.

They were mentally ill!!!!

The father was not an illegal, either. He was granted citizenship status under Reagan's amnesty.

February 17, 2008 2:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Rivera family never said a word of tribute to Officer Simmons at their funeral. Their priest said, "Officer Simmons had his day yesterday, this is for the Rivera family." Officer Simmons lost his life trying to save them all, not knowing they were already dead, and they owed a thanks to his memory.

In fact, there seemed to be resentment that the officer got such a big funeral, which the city didn't show up in force for theirs.

They let their mentally unhinged shooter walk around the house with guns at all times. He'd had runins with the local Hispanic gangs, and reports say he didn't feel safe.

The family didn't think it was trouble waiting to happen, to let a mentally unstable guy walk around the house with a gun, in constant fear of anyone who drove by? They should have hidden the gun at the minimum.

None of the mourners, who were all from their Salvadoran community the papers say, said a word of thanks to Officers Simmons, Veestra or their colleagues. Their Salvadoran Consulate gave them money as "victims of crime," and they are entitled to more from our city for victims of crime. This family was complicit. That they should blame the cops and our city shows how ungrateful people are who come in illegally, and are allowed to stay. Where is their sense of apology and sorrow for the dead and injured officer shot by their son, a clear time bomb they should have diffused?

February 17, 2008 3:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is J. Mailander (once referred to as the Village Idiot of the Blogosphere by the LA Weekly) attempting to be Kevin Roderick with a post like this?

February 17, 2008 3:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Ranting Racist again spews forth at 3:17...

That they should blame the cops and our city shows how ungrateful people are who come in illegally, and are allowed to stay.

They haven't blamed the cops or the city. They are silent. Take a lesson.

February 17, 2008 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:30: You're an idiot and not one person here has supported you. Your pandering to your master Calderon is disgraceful.

You also don't know the fact of this case, you are as ignorant as you are stupid.

February 17, 2008 3:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Facts of this case

1. Rivera Sr. was a citizen.
2. The shooter was a citizen.
3. LAPD stated Rivera was mentally ill.
4. LAPD stated the shooter wasn't in a gang.
5. Simmons worked with at risk youth of all races and
6. You are disrespecting Simmons memory with your racist rants.
7. All other so-called "facts" are fabrications by the dull half-wit Ranting Racist Hater.

February 17, 2008 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'Randy's Kids' Honor Their Mentor
http://www.presstelegram.com/ci_8277770

Together, the multiracial group learned to play together and became a successful team at home and on the road.

February 17, 2008 4:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Riveras let their mentally ill son, "The rat," walk around with a gun all day long. He was involved with Salvadoran gangs -- not as a member, because they wouldn't accept him, but he feared them and hence the gun. How stupid does the family have to be to let a mentally ill kid walk around with a gun? The father came illegally and they were undesirables, based on their behavior.

Their Salvadoran Consulate and community acknowledges them as one of their own "expatriates."

Their refusal to thank or even acknowledge the man who gave his life for them, to begrudge his city-wide honors, is also disgraceful.

Your masters Calderon, Cardenas, Reyes and Alarcon haven't trained you to be very logical, you've been trumped on every charge. It's anti- American people like you who, using Calderon's "logic" that because we're a generous country with a history of immigration, that we must open our borders to all their illegals, who are trying to use our generosity against us. If we'd deported the illegal Senior Rivera, per the law, none of this would have happened.

All the immigrants from other countries who apply for legal status while your undesirables have come and ruined our country, are the most wronged and angry. That is, those who are the REAL immigrants our country was intended to open its arms to. Shame on you.

February 17, 2008 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Read about 'Randy's Kids'
Randal Simpson did not support hate and haters. You dishonor his memory with your angry lies about his life and the sad circumstances of his death. You're the one who should be ashamed.

February 17, 2008 4:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Officer Simmons' friends are saying he ministered to Black and Latino children alike. He was a unifier. One can only imagine how horrified he would have been to read this malcontent's posts and in witnessing a Hater using his death for an ugly agenda such as been done by one person on this blog.

February 17, 2008 4:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:25, 4:28, the same fool who keeps posting his lies all day long to make this shooter seem like a victim, and to whitewash the complicity of his father and family, and the family's disrespect to the officers who tried to save their lives, and ingratitude to the country that allowed them to stay although he came illegally: You are all alone as the village idiot. Go "home" to your daddy Calderon.

February 17, 2008 5:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I fully agree that the 12 million illegals from Mexico and Central America should have preference over everyone else and be legalized immediately! After all, they risked their lives to sneak into this country and too bad for the dummies from your dictatorships who don't have the good luck to live next door to the U. S. and have politicians of their own race pushing our country to ignore the ICE laws on their behalf.

Everyone knows that California is a "bilingual" country, and that means knowing Spanish, not Russian, Romanian or German. English should not be required any more than it is in the rest of Latinismo. You are a white supremecist, there should be no more white people coming here because then there won't be room for everyone to form Aztlan!

That person who keeps pointing out that the killer walked around the house with a gun all the time and had run-ins with Salvadoran gangs, should just get used to it! If he was messed up in the head it was the fault of the white man, so we don't need any more white people!

And how dare that person say that the beat cops want to get rid of SP40 so their lives will be safer. We are the cause of all the world's problems, especially for creating Latin gangs, so we are responsible for solving these problems. We must keep all the criminals here, they are our responsibility. You cheapskate, you should be honored to have another tax attacked to your house to pay for this problem.

If you don't like it you can get out of Los Angeles, since this city belongs to the Hispanics of the Latin World, just as much as to you, you can go to Cleveland! This is Aztlan and we must give it back.

February 17, 2008 5:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Give it and us a break you racist fabricator.
The mentally ill kid was a US born citizen and the LAPD spokesman I saw on TV stated that even though the kid had had some contact with the LAPD he had never been arrested or jailed, even in Juvenile Hall.
Your disgraceful with your racist crap.
What are you saying? That because Hitler was a Nazi we should hate all Germans or Austrians?
Your beyond spite you creep!

RIP Officer Simmons, a good guy and not a hater like you.

February 17, 2008 5:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You are obviously exhausted from spinning racist drivel and convincing no one. Since you cannot manufacture "facts", though you tried, you've resorted now to name calling like a rageful misfit child.

February 17, 2008 5:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I like and respect my Hispanic American friends, and neighbors, I'm crazy about the Latin culture, but I want our US borders closed tight! That's a practical decision and 85 percent of the country, even many legal Hispanics, agree. I believe I speak for many of us here that unlike this racist hater, most Mayor Sam bloggers are not "Ugly Americans"! The hater stands alone.

February 17, 2008 5:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I second that emotion!

February 17, 2008 6:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Complimenting yourself again, you're not fooling anyone. Your Mentor and Big Daddy Calderon is more clever at trying to use our generosity to immigrants against us, as a way to justify putting this latest wave of 12 million Hispanic illegals ahead of all the others from other countries. Which together are a few hundred thousand, and tend to be educated.

The killer's family were responsible for their own tragedies, and those of the officers, for letting the mentally unstable kid wander around with a gun, thinking he had to protect himself from drive-by shooters who had shot up the house last year.
Hispanic gangbangers he knew. They were Salvadoran "expatriates," look up what the word means, dummy. And based on their behavior, just plain stupid and undesirable. Certainly not the "kid next door" you'd want.

February 17, 2008 6:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That person who keeps pointing out that the killer walked around the house with a gun all the time and had run-ins with Salvadoran gangs, should just get used to it!

We're used to it. Those posessing the truth about 5:43 PM'S mental state and gun fetish got used to it long ago.

February 17, 2008 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:17 PM'S, too.

February 17, 2008 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Go here and read about officer Simmons work with Black and Latino children.

February 17, 2008 6:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

she the hater needs a psychiatrist. bad.

February 17, 2008 7:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can't believe that Calderon/Cardenas clone is still refusing to look up the common facts of the case, all over the web and even in Daily News, that the shooter was known to always keep a gun with him in the house, nervous and "always on the ready" against the people who targeted the house in a driveby in 06. Believed to be former associates in the gang of fellow Salvadorian "expatriates" who'd broken with him because he was too -- unstable.

Why didn't the parents and brothers hide the gun? And yes, the media is full of reports about how it didn't sit well with a lot of people that they didn't even acknowledge Simmons and the others at their funeral, saying through the priest that Simmons already got his due. Considering Simmons died for them, the Christian thing might have been for the priest to suggest it at least.

The shooter wasn't a hero, he was a perpetrator, plain and simple. The family should have prevented it.

What kind of people let a mentally unstable, paranoid young man carry around a gun day and night? This is one you can't blame on guns, but on people. How sad. STOP TURNING THEM INTO HEROES, it's a lie and disrespectful. And the lesson is, to all families: if you have a mentally unstable, paranoid person, for pete's sake, don't let him walk around with a loaded gun! Lucky a neighbor or passerby wasn't shot first.

February 17, 2008 8:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not one blogger here has turned this killer into a hero, moron. The compassion for this grieving family does not attempt to turn them into heroes. Stop spinning like we can't see the web of lies you weave.

Your family has a mentally unstable you walking around with a loaded gun. You are the first who should be stopped.

February 17, 2008 8:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

She went from outright racism to disrespecting the Rivera family's grief. I'll call that progress.

February 17, 2008 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

She should be ashamed of even involving the grieving citizens and family members, of all races, in her blatant racial stereotyping no matter how infantile.

February 17, 2008 9:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And yes, the media is full of reports about how it didn't sit well with a lot of people that they didn't even acknowledge Simmons

The media is not full of reports. I haven't read one but you have so freely post it or cease your race-baiting lying rant.

February 17, 2008 9:47 PM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

FWIW, though this argument seems to be splitting along a racial divide, it's still a pretty good argument, and if you guys stick to real points rather than ad hominem insults it will be even better.

But really---some attacks we see here are mindless, but not this one. The complicated position of the family v. the tragedy of a wasted life and as it all applies to immigration is a matter that I expect media to be picking up as an exemplar in a couple of days.

February 17, 2008 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When people are too stupid to be able to read, and bother to do any research or use facts, they scream racism and worse. Shame on you, idiot.

Daily News quoting friends of Rivera family about how the killer became even more unstable after his mother died, "some said how he even went around always with a loaded gun after the driveby shooting," in 2006. You despicable little worms, calling people who just read liars.

Other reports talk about the driveby being done by gang members, whose relationship had soured.

Yes, you look really iliterate, making the shooter and family out to be unsuspecting innocents, when the son was behaving like this for even outsiders to see. This whole family was dysfunctional, and their refusal to take away the gun from a paranoid, mentally unstable member of the family cost them all. Most of all the cops who they didn't even want to mention in thanks and prayers. That is the message, idiot. IF they were white, you'd not try to justify this behavior. It's tragic but was avoidable. These are NOT the people you'd want next door or anywhere near you. This is not responsible behavior.

For this reason they're welcome to the financial aid from their own Salvadoran consulate as expatriates, but not as victims of crime from American taxpayers. It was a crime of their own making.

It's a separate issue but utterly contemptible, that you people can say with a straight face that 12 million illegal Hispanics known to be in this country (a conservative estimate) have greater rights than those from every other country in the world seeking asylum for genuine fear of persecution and even death. Shame on your for pandering and your smear tactics, Calderon clone. Your kind makes McCain stronger, more Romney. Your corruption of our generosity to immigrants and those facing real persecution, is utterly shameful.

February 17, 2008 9:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:59 does not refer to Joe, but the person who keeps crying racism yet refuses to read the basic facts even as printed in a simple journal like the Daily News, let alone other sources. There are comments there along the lines of "get rid of all the Hispanics," and nonsense all around, but pointing out the realities of this particular family isn't one of them. Attacking the messenger(s) is just denial.

There are several voices on this blog (who brought up the issue of the huge numbers of Hispanics in our jails and gangs, etc., which is a separate issue along with whether illegals should keep getting amnesty. But the attacks of racism come from one person in denial, who hasn't bothered to read the feature in the Daily News or back stores with further details last 2 days.

February 17, 2008 10:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you people can say with a straight face that 12 million illegal Hispanics known to be in this country (a conservative estimate) have greater rights than those from every other country in the world seeking asylum for genuine fear of persecution and even death.

And no one said that, either, in the same way no one made any of the statements she charges. She makes it up as she goes along, all transparent attempts at hiding her original racist atrocities, which was to blame all Hispanics for the tragic killing of Randal Simpson. That didn't work, and now she's scrutinizing the length and breath of this poor family's grief.

Rivera came here seeking asylum and was granted legal status under amnesty created for that reason. He was legal, his son was legal, and we can never have an intellingent debate about illegal immigration around this tragedy. We must look elsewhere.

To say that this family is responsible in any way is like charging Scott Peterson's family with murder because his mother failed to abort him in the womb. Of course Lacey Peterson would still be alive, but it's a stupid insensitive argument and only a fool would resort to using it.

February 17, 2008 10:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The correct 'attacks' of racism come from anyone and everyone who has read your rantful racist posts.

February 17, 2008 10:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, Lacey's family should've hid Scott's boat and knives, if you follow along with the irrational racist reasoning of this one person blogging here. They didn't, so it's their fault their daughter's dead.

February 17, 2008 10:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What pathetic attempts at denial. You're right, anyone with a mentally deranged person known to be going around with a loaded gun all the time fearful of another driveby, would do nothing other than let him keep the gun for fun. You're just insane.
It's what any "American" family does.

February 17, 2008 11:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rivera killed his family. It's more than reasonable to assume his family would have hid his gun if they could, if only for self defense. They had the biggest motive, if there was a way. Had they been able to take this kid's gun, they would be alive, idiot!

February 17, 2008 11:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That American family is dead! They were probably the most terrified of Rivera and they would have been the first people to have benefitted from getting that gun.

February 17, 2008 11:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It must have been terrible for that family, raising a child with such mental stress, and fearing him. as we should assume they did. Let's hope the media explores this, instead of exploiting it into a sophomoric and futile argument about immigration, which it is not! What a tragic end to a tragic existence for this poor American family. I mourn them and Randal Simpson. There are no easy answers.

February 17, 2008 11:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Darn right I'll stand by saying that allowing more than 12 million illegals into this country from the most corrupt and inefficient group of countries, while making legitimate, educated and potentially grateful political applicants from other countries jump through huge hoops and often be deported -- is self-destructive and discriminatory. Of course this is tied to why we're "the gang capitol of the world," why gang crime has exploded in the last two decades, and why we're the most financially strapped local and state government despite having highest real estate prices. Our "poor" friends in states like Alabama and Arkansas naturally laugh at us, and don't want to subsidize our "sanctuary city" results at the federal level.

If anyone deserves to sue us for discrimination and legal bias, it's the legal applicants for asylum who are being discriminated against for playing by the rules. Americans see through this game: look how Calderon's meddling and trying to turn the Arellano woman into a poster saint for illegals backfired.

As for the circumstances of that family and their tragedy: facts are facts, it would not have happened if ICE had been enforced and the father deported by law, and everyone but the Calderons on this blog realize the double tragedy that the killings could all have been prevented by common sense. It's just lucky the guy didn't shoot someone else first by being so jittery.

This is very different from where a shooter suddenly and secretly gets a gun. Everyone always asks if there were warning signs, but when someone mentally unstable is openly always carrying a gun -- is the pope Catholic?

February 17, 2008 11:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The father could not be deported by law. The law was amnesty. Deporting him would have been illegal. This was an American family, if it suits your definition or not.

Let's look now upon Kazmierczak's family. Why didn't they take his gun? .

February 17, 2008 11:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Teen charged with prank SWAT call

CRIME: False 911 calls leading to SWAT response increasing, authorities say.
By Rick Coca, Staff Writer, Long Beach Press Telegram

He told the 911 dispatcher he had killed someone in the house and more bloodshed would follow.

When SWAT units responded to the Southern California home from where the dispatcher thought the call originated, they confronted a man with a weapon and readied their assault rifles.

But unlike this month's Winnetka SWAT standoff - in which Edwin Rivera killed his father, two brothers and LAPD Officer Randal Simmons - this man was innocent, and no tragedy had occurred.

It was all a joke.

Randal Ellis, 19, who lived 1,200 miles away in Washington state, used a computer to trick the 911 dispatcher into believing the "emergency" was inside a home in Orange County, prosecutors allege.

Called "swatting" - for the callers' efforts to get a SWAT team to respond to their pranks - this relatively new cyber crime has piqued the interest of authorities nationwide. In it, cyber criminals make prank life-and-death 911 calls that appear to be originating from others' homes.

Although nowhere near as prolific or troublesome as other financially enticing cyber crimes, several swatting arrests have shed light on the perverse practice.

"We really don't see anyone making a profit from this," said Bryan Duchene, supervising agent in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles cyber crimes unit. "It's just a twisted way for people to have fun."

Ellis is facing five felony counts and one misdemeanor for the March incident, including computer


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fraud, assault with a machine gun and false imprisonment by violence, Emami said.
Prosecutors will argue Ellis is guilty of the last two charges "by proxy," meaning that because of his actions, the responding officers acted, in effect, as an agent for him.

If convicted on all counts, Ellis faces a maximum of 18 years in state prison.

February 17, 2008 11:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If convicted on all counts, Ellis faces a maximum of 18 years in state prison.
That he richly deserves.

February 18, 2008 12:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get the f**K out. The US has bad white kids, too? Sheesh! Lock up all their parents, unless they're dead already. It's a dangerous world.

February 18, 2008 12:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Some idiot post a list of 11 top gangs and tell us most gangs on that list are black gangs.

The great majority of street gangs in S. California are sureno/latino gangs who use -13 in their name, meaning they claim allegiance to the mexican mafia street gang.
http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/surenos/

There are over 500 sureno/latino gangs in Los Angeles County alone. That does not include all the sureno/latino street gangs in San Bernardino, Riverside, Orange and San Diego counties
http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/

http://www.lapdonline.org/search_results/content_basic_view/23466

"Gangs often form along ethnic and racial lines, although there is an increasing trend of young people joining gangs for economic motives. Gangs differ sub-culturally in their behavior. For example, homicides among Latino gangs are often near-ritual exhibitions of manhood"

February 18, 2008 12:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That top gang list is LAPD's list of the most vicious gangs. Six Hispanic and five black. Stop spinning you lying ignoramus. You only prove that you are the same racist who started out with a hateful agenda, then tried to spin your mistake into blame on this poor family and ended up giving the rest of us a headache.

February 18, 2008 12:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.streetgangs.com/bloods/
http://www.streetgangs.com/crips/
http://www.streetgangs.com/iraq/
http://www.streetgangs.com/asian/

February 18, 2008 12:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/nazi_low_riders/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030400602.html

February 18, 2008 1:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://faculty.missouristate.edu/m/MichaelCarlie/Storage/white_supremacist_groups.htm

February 18, 2008 1:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://faculty.missouristate.edu/m/MichaelCarlie/Storage/white_supremacist_groups.htm

February 18, 2008 1:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://stgofficer.tripod.com/id12.html

European Kindred News:
Joshua Robert Brown, a 21-year-old white ex-con, on charges of killing Anthony Cleo Wilson, a 47-year-old African-American convicted felon, in a downtown housing project two months ago.......Before his release from prison just three weeks prior to the murder, Brown was a member of one of the largest and most dangerous prison gangs in Oregon--one that has its roots in the white-supremacist movement. ....he became affiliated with the European Kindred prison gang, taking part in assaults on inmates and at least one state corrections officer....Lt. Dean Harlow of the Department of Corrections says the European Kindred, with about 300 members, is one of the three largest gangs in Oregon's prisons--and definitely the most dangerous. They're a white-supremacist group," he says. "One of their stated goals when they first started was protecting white individuals from colored inmates inside the prison system. Eventually it just expanded to where it became a radical gang, where it didn't matter whether they targeted colored people or white people. They just went after the general population." "They are a very dangerous group," Harlow adds. "We know that they have tried to bring drugs into the prison. BY NICK BUDNICK


Other White Supremacy Groups:
Aryan Brotherhood or AB : Formed in San Quintin California DOC. The gang was formed to protect white inmates from the hispanic and black inmates. Use the tattoos AB, 666, Swastikas

Nazi Low Riders or NLR: The fastest growing prison gang in California DOC. NLR was formed in California Youth Authority. NLR have White Supremacy beliefs such as SWP (Supreme White Power), White Pride, White Power, NLR, the swastika, 88 (Heil Hitler), SS, lightning bolts. Satanic tattoos (skulls/demons) Vikings are also used

February 18, 2008 1:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0305/public_enemy_ap.html

White supremacist gang gaining clout after forging alliance with Aryan Brotherhood

BUENA PARK, Calif. (AP) — The white supremacist gang Public Enemy No. 1 began two decades ago as a group of teenage punk-rock fans from upper-middle class bedroom communities in Southern California.

Now, the violent gang that deals in drugs, guns and identity theft is gaining clout across the West after forging an alliance with the notorious Aryan Brotherhood, authorities say.

Police say the gang has compiled a "hit list" targeting five officers and a gang prosecutor -- a sign of just how brazen Public Enemy has become.

"They make police officers very, very nervous," said Cpl. Nate Booth, a gang detective with the Buena Park Police Department in Orange County.

Law enforcement officials trace the gang's rise to shifts in the power structure inside prisons.

The Aryan Brotherhood has long been the dominant white supremacist gang behind bars, with the Nazi Low Riders acting as its foot soldiers on the outside for drug dealing and identity theft.

In 2000, officials reclassified the Low Riders as a prison-based gang and began sending its members to solitary confinement as soon as they were imprisoned.

The crackdown hurt the gang's ability to interact with the Aryan Brotherhood, which turned to Public Enemy, authorities say. The alliance was cemented in 2005 when Donald Reed "Popeye" Mazza, an alleged leader of Public Enemy, was inducted into the Aryan Brotherhood.

The pact has increased Public Enemy's wealth and recruiting power, said Steve Slaten, a special agent for the California Department of Corrections.

In the past three years, its ranks have doubled to at least 400, but authorities suspect there could be hundreds of other members operating under the radar. They said heavy recruiting is taking place throughout California and Arizona, and members have been picked up by police in Nevada and Idaho.

"They move around. We find them everywhere," said Lowell Smith of the Orange County Probation Department.

The gang traces its roots to the punk rock subculture in Long Beach in the 1980s. It soon shifted its base to nearby Orange County and in the 1990s began recruiting what police call "bored latchkey kids" -- white teenagers from upper-middle class neighborhoods.

Public Enemy is now involved in identity theft. Booth said the gang has gone from swiping personal information from mailboxes and trash to stealing entire credit profiles with the help of girlfriends and wives who take jobs at banks, mortgage companies and even state motor vehicle departments.

Money from those operations is used to fuel its methamphetamine business, he said.

Two months ago, police agencies in Orange County arrested 67 suspected members after learning about the hit list against officers in Anaheim, Buena Park and Costa Mesa. Those arrested in the raid were charged with conspiracy to commit murder, possession of illegal weapons and identity theft, among other things. Police have not released their names or further details because the investigation is continuing.

Booth recalled another case in which a member of the gang fired dozens of rounds at police from a car driven by his girlfriend during a high-speed freeway pursuit. After being arrested, the man was taken to an emergency room, where he grabbed a scalpel and tried to slash a deputy before cutting himself, Booth said.

Authorities worry that Public Enemy is using stolen credit information to learn the home addresses of police and their families. Some officers have gone to court to have addresses removed from those records, Booth said.

February 18, 2008 1:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-firestone18oct18,0,6500817.story

Battle over the drug trade has led to escalating violence in Florence-Firestone.

By Sam Quinones, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 18, 2007


It used to be that innocent bystanders were not targeted, said Chris Le Grande, pastor of Great Hope Fellowship in Faith, one of Florence-Firestone's largest black churches. "Now it's deliberate. 'I'm deliberately shooting you because of your color.' "

On Tuesday, the U.S. attorney's office announced a sweeping indictment against more than 60 members of Florencia 13, accusing the Latino gang of waging a violent campaign to drive out African American rivals. Once primarily black, the working class community of 60,000 today is mostly Latino.

But some say that's only part of the truth. The war has two sides, said Robert Ramirez, a Florencia 13 gang member.

"I'm not going to say we're angels, but it's 50-50," he said, as fellow gang members sprayed walls with Florencia graffiti. " 'Any black, shoot on sight?' -- it's not true. Nobody likes a racist person."

The neighborhood saw 41 homicides in 2005, surpassing the homicide rate in some of the nation's most dangerous big cities, authorities said. About half of those killed had no gang affiliation.

Homicides dropped to 19 last year after a major law enforcement crackdown that led to 230 felony arrests and the seizure of 130 weapons. But the level of violence remains high.

Authorities attribute the neighborhood's gang troubles in large part to the huge demographic shift that occurred in this economically depressed community over the last 20 years, tipping the balance of power from black to Latino and turning it into a tinderbox of racial tensions.

That kind of demographic shift has occurred in many parts of Southern California, but Florence-Firestone is one of the places where it has turned violent. The violence threatens an economic revival that has begun to revitalize the neighborhood.

Mexican Mafia strategy

For years, the two rival gangs resisted outside pressures to go to war, according to those active in Florencia in the 1990s.

Like many black and Latino gangs, they ignored each other during the worst gang years of the late '80s and early '90s. Instead, they focused on attacking rivals of their own race.

But during the mid-'90s, the Mexican Mafia prison gang began directing Latino gangs to stop fighting each other, to "tax" drug dealers and to push blacks from their neighborhoods, according to numerous gang members and law enforcement officers.

Florencia, in particular, had warred for years with 38th Street, a Latino gang to the north.

But under the new rules, Florencia was forced to get along with rival Latino gangs and once even played a pickup football game with 38th Street, said one Florencia gang member who requested anonymity out of fear for his safety.

The Mexican Mafia "didn't understand how it worked," he said. "I hate 38th Street. I didn't have no problem with the guys from East Coast because I grew up with them. It's kind of hard to say, 'Now I'm going to. . . kill this black guy just because he's black.' But that's how they wanted to do it."

February 18, 2008 2:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/la-me-shooter23jan23,0,3110326.story


Arrests made in fatal shooting of baby

The alleged gunman is returned to L.A. He and five other 18th Street gang members are accused of wounding a street vendor and killing a baby in a stroller.

By Joel Rubin, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

Los Angeles Police Department detectives said Tuesday that they have cracked one of last year's most brazen murder cases, arresting a member of the notorious 18th Street gang for allegedly killing a 23-day-old baby and badly wounding a street vendor during a September shooting in a crowded shopping district near MacArthur Park.

Giovanni Macedo, 31, was extradited to California last month from another state and charged with murder and several other felonies. He had been apprehended in late October.

Five other gang members -- including Juan Pablo Murillo, who police say was in charge of the gang's extortion and drug dealing in the area -- have been arrested and charged with murder for allegedly helping to plan and carry out the shooting. Two other suspects are being sought in Mexico, said LAPD Det. David Holmes.

The shooting, Holmes said, was retaliation against Francisco Clemente, 37, who had been refusing to pay the weekly "rent" that the 18th Street gang has extorted for years from vendors who scrape out a living selling clothes, electronics and other goods along the sidewalks near 6th Street and Burlington Avenue.

Several hours before the shooting, a collector for the gang made a final attempt to shake down Clemente for the roughly $50 vendors are charged each week, police said. As he had for weeks, Clemente refused. With hundreds of shoppers milling about, Macedo -- along with others charged in the murder -- strode up to the vendor around 9:30 p.m. Sept. 15 and opened fire at close range, according to detectives.

Clemente was struck several times in the chest and is recovering from the wounds. The infant, Luis Angel Garcia, was killed by a single bullet as he lay in his stroller near Clemente, Holmes said.

Contrary to previous news reports that the mother was passing by when her infant was struck by a stray bullet, Holmes and Det. Juan Guerra said the woman, whom they did not name, is a vendor who shared sidewalk space with Clemente.

The detectives declined to say whether turning the gun on the infant was part of the gang's plan, but said the child was in plain view.

"There wasn't a blanket or anything covering the stroller, and it was right next to" Clemente, Holmes said. "Usually babies are in baby carriages."

His death deeply shook residents and vendors in the poor, immigrant neighborhood who typically remain silent in the face of assaults, intimidation and drug dealing by the local clique of 18th Street, a violent gang born in Los Angeles but that has spread over the years into other U.S. cities, Mexico and Central America.

But in the days after Luis Garcia's killing, police received tips from witnesses and other vendors who had been victims of the gang's extortion ring, leading to the arrests.

"It took the death of this baby to start people coming forward," Holmes said.

Amid intense media scrutiny and calls for arrests by city officials, LAPD commanders unleashed huge resources on the case, at one point assigning two dozen homicide detectives and gang specialists.

Preliminary court hearings for Macedo and the others are expected in coming weeks. Police said they expect more arrests related to the killing.

Holmes and Guerra asked anyone with information about the killing, the gang's extortion ring or its drug dealing to call (213) 485-2531, or after hours at (213) 485-3261. A witness protection program is available, they said.

February 18, 2008 2:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/they-wanted-all-blacks-out/14109/


''They Wanted All Blacks Out''
Federal trial exposes the Avenues of hate

By CHRISTINE PELISEK
Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:00 pm
The three African-American men had just spent another evening at the Lodge, a popular gay bar in North Hollywood. It had become a ritual for 38-year-old Kenneth Kurry Wilson, his nephew, Dewayne Williams, 29, and their friend Frank Eubanks, ever since Williams moved into Highland Park, the predominantly Latino neighborhood just a jog north on Figueroa from downtown. Wilson, dressed in a yellow shirt, black jeans and his trademark black boots, was the designated driver. By the time the three men pulled up in front of Williams’ place in a two-story apartment building on Avenue 52, it was around 3:30 a.m. on a Sunday. By then, Williams was passed out drunk in the back seat of the car. Wilson went to park their ride, a gold ’84 Fleetwood Cadillac, while his nephew’s roommates helped Williams up the stairs and into his apartment.

While Wilson scoured Avenue 52 for a spot, six Avenues gang members in a stolen van were winding down an evening of looking for rival gangsters who were “slipping” — or letting their guard down. The gangsters wound their way through the narrow streets of Highland Park, Cypress Park and Dogtown gang territory, crossing out other gang tags and spray-painting “Aves” and “Avenidas” along the way. That night they were on a “mission,” so they wore gloves, dark clothing and beanies. Their scanner was programmed to the Los Angeles Police Department’s Northeast Division frequency so they would know about any police cruisers patrolling the area. The gangsters were carrying a .357 revolver, a 9 mm semiautomatic and a 12-gauge shotgun.

They spotted Wilson driving the Cadillac as they made their way down Avenue 52. They watched Wilson make a U-turn and slow down to park. The driver said to his friends: “Hey, wanna kill a nigger?”

Little else was said except “Fuck it.” That’s the scene as described by Jose de la Cruz, a former Avenues gang member, who testified this month in federal court that he and two other gangsters then jumped out of the van and ran toward the Cadillac. All three men opened fire, blowing out the Cadillac’s back and side windows, and one of its tires. A single bullet entered the back of Wilson’s neck, severing his carotid artery and lodging near his throat. He died within minutes.

“He dropped,” said de la Cruz about Wilson’s murder, on April 18, 1999. “He just stopped moving.”

De la Cruz and another Avenues gangster, Jesse Diaz, were two of the key witnesses to testify in the ongoing hate-crime trial in federal court in downtown Los Angeles. Federal prosecutors alleged that Gilbert “Lucky” Saldana, 27, Alejandro “Bird” Martinez, 29, Fernando “Sneaky” Cazares, 26, and Porfirio “Dreamer” Avila, 31 — all members of the Avenues gang clique known as Aves 43 — agreed to kill in order to run black people out of Highland Park. Another defendant, Merced “Shadow” Cambero, 28, is a fugitive. The jury should begin deliberations this week.

Both de la Cruz and Diaz claimed that they were in the van on the night of Wilson’s murder along with the defendants — testimony their defense attorneys disputed. De La Cruz is currently serving a 45-year sentence in state prison for his role in Wilson’s slaying. Diaz is serving a 20-year state sentence for the attempted murder of a police officer. Both men agreed to testify against their childhood chums in the hope that they would get time knocked off their sentences.

“They are not choirboys,” said Assistant U.S. Attorney Alex Bustamante about de la Cruz and Diaz, who were both shackled to the witness box. “They are in jail for violent crimes. They are not testifying out of the goodness of their hearts. They have agreements with the government.”


Porfirio Avila (top) and Alejandro Martinez (bottom) face hate-crime charges in federal court. Codefendant Merced Cambero is a fugitive. In 2003, Diaz and de la Cruz were contacted by the FBI, who were investigating the possibility of bringing hate-crime charges against the Aves 43 after local law enforcement informed federal authorities about a rash of hate-crime-related incidents. (See Pelisek’s related story, “Avenues of Death,” at laweekly.com.) The two men agreed to cooperate if the government helped them in their efforts to have their sentences reduced. Prosecutors agreed to send letters to Diaz and de la Cruz’s state sentencing judges.

In 2004, federal authorities indicted Saldana, Cazares, Martinez and Cambero on federal weapons and civil rights charges. On November 16, 2005, Avila was added to the list of those federally indicted. While on the lam, Cambero was arrested under a false name by Ventura law-enforcement officials but was let go accidentally. On another occasion, police believe they chased him over a fence in Highland Park.

In addition to de la Cruz and Diaz’s testimonies, the 12 jurors heard from black residents of Highland Park who said that they had been harassed, attacked and subjected to racial slurs by the Aves 43. These allegations, which occurred between 1995 and 2001, included the attempted murder of a homeless man, racial slurs directed at a girl in a supermarket and a black police officer, and the drawing of chalk outlines of human bodies in the driveway of a black resident’s home. Other black residents were repeatedly told to move out of the Highland Park neighborhood and called racial slurs like “nigger” and “mayate.”

“They wanted all blacks out of the neighborhood, not just African-American men, not just African-American gang members but all African-American women and children,” said Bustamante.

The federal hate-crime trial also involves the murder of two other black men, Christopher Bowser and Anthony Prudhomme, who were both killed in 2000. Cazares, Cambero, Martinez and Saldana are charged with violating a federal hate-crime statute, which is based on the 13th Amendment to the Constitution outlawing slavery, by allegedly killing Wilson because of his race, and while he was on a public street. (Civil rights laws say everyone has the right to use public streets without the threat of violence.) The four defendants are also charged with using a firearm. They and Avila face conspiracy charges for allegedly interfering with the housing rights of black residents in Highland Park through violence and threats

February 18, 2008 2:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://cbs2.com/local/girl.racially.motivated.2.526064.html

Teen Girl Shot In Racially Motivated Hate Crime
LOS ANGELES (CBS) ― The killing of a 14-year-old black girl in the Harbor Gateway area of Los Angeles was racially motivated, and the Hispanic gunman remains at large, police said Tuesday.


"We are labeling it as a hate crime," said Officer Martha Garcia of the Los Angeles Police Department's Media Relations office.

Cheryl Green was fatally shot about 3:10 p.m. Friday near 206th Street and Harvard Boulevard, Garcia said.

Three other teens -- two girls and a boy -- were also wounded, but survived, Garcia said.

"It just makes no sense to me," Cheryl's 19-year-old brother, David Cary, told the Daily Breeze. "She had her whole life ahead of her. ... Just because of the color of her skin."

Cheryl was shot about a block from her home.

The killer opened fire on the girl and her teenage friends as they stood on a corner.

Family members believe they were targeted because of their race, the newspaper reported.

The Stephen M. White Middle School eighth-grader possibly became the latest innocent victim in the escalating battle between Hispanic and black gangs in Harbor Gateway, the newspaper reported.

According to the newspaper, the area north of 206th Street between Western and Normandie avenues is Hispanic, and the area south of 206th is black. Cheryl -- who had nothing to do with gangs -- was on the black side of the line when she was shot.

Police said a Hispanic gunman walked up to Cheryl and seven friends hanging out just an hour after school ended. Winter vacation had just begun when the shooter opened fire.

"It's another senseless act of violence," LAPD Harbor Station Detective Mike Falvo said. "It's pretty disgusting."

Teens told Cheryl's family the gunman was young, possibly Cheryl's age, and he appeared scared as he pulled the trigger.

The bullet, Cheryl's siblings said, grazed a girlfriend's head before hitting Cheryl's side.

Cheryl's friends rushed her and the three other wounded teens in their own car to a hospital, where doctors told them Cheryl had died instantly.

The Harbor Gateway has been a treacherous place for blacks and Hispanics since the mid- to late-1990s, when blacks started moving into the largely Hispanic area, the newspaper reported.

February 18, 2008 2:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is that what you have been using to make your idiotic points? Articles about Hispanic gangs? Everyone knows that there are Hispanic gangs, and the information about the Highland Park murders is years old, already you pathetic racist sack of shit. As we know there are black gangs, Asian gangs, white supremacist gangs, the whole nine yards.

These articles do not help you make your point, not just because the articles do not bear out your racist point of view. Because you have tried to make that seem like Hispanic gangs are a bigger problem, or the sole gang problem, and that is not the case. There are gangs of every color in LA, and the dangers posed by each are unique and terrible.

To blame Hispanics as you have is racist, stupid and ignorant.

February 18, 2008 3:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Poor racist nut. She's dragged out that LA Weekly hate crimes article and posted in on Mayor Sam at least twice before, like it means everything to her to have that to use against the Mexicans. She must sleep with it under her pillow. Those killings will not validate her racism. Nothing will. Her hate is immense and irrational and there is no news article on earth that will bear her out.

February 18, 2008 3:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LAPD SWAT Team Officer Randall Simmons was shot by a kid with mental problems. It was not a racially motivated killing nor was it a gang motivated killing. The shooter killed his family, officer Simmons and then turned the gun on himself. It's a terrible tragedy and we should pray for all the innocent victims. And ask your elected representatives to fund mental health treatment as well ass look into stricter gun-control laws to get the guns away from people with emotional and mental health issues.

February 18, 2008 3:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Cholo apologist writes .....
"Everyone knows that there are Hispanic gangs, and the information about the Highland Park murders is years old, already you pathetic racist sack of shit. As we know there are black gangs, Asian gangs, white supremacist gangs, the whole nine yards."


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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/

Let's read the Los Angeles times and see how many asian and white supremacist murders we see in Los Angeles.

Oh wait 80% of the suspects are latino, I dont see any mention of asian or white gangs, you stupid cholo apologist.

February 18, 2008 5:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Pasadena newspaper has some very recent news about gangs and racially motivated killings, why is Pasadena star news only writing about the mexican mafia and mexican gangs. Could it be because that is who is doing the killings? I want to see all the reports of asian gang killings.

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/gangs

February 18, 2008 5:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

RIVERA WAS AN

A N C H O R B A B Y!!!!!!!!


Anchors are ten x worse than their illegal immigrant parents. Just look at Villar!!!!!


Anchors ARE NOT US CITIZENS!!!

It is a SCAM, a FRAUD...read the 14th Amendment!!!


We need to throw the anchor baby asses out of this country!!! THEY ARE THE REAL PROBLEMS!!!!

WISE UP, EVERYONE...READ HEATHER MACDONALD'S MAGNIFICENT ESSAY ON ANCHOR BABIES AT CITY JOURNAL...HEATHER IS THE EXPERT!!! READ IT!!!!

February 18, 2008 5:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Run, Run I saw an Asian gang of math and science students at Cal-Tech, Cal-Poly Pomona, UCLA, and USC.

Run, Run, Run the Asian Math & Science Gang is coming !!!

February 18, 2008 5:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=5956271

Second Gang Crackdown In Southeast Fresno

2/13/2008 (KFSN) -- A second crackdown on gang members is underway in Southeast Fresno. This time, police are zeroing in on Bulldog members, one week after a similar operation targeted Southeast Asian gangs. More than a hundred officers are participating in Wednesday's operation, compared to last week's 40. The mission, though, is the same. Police are going into gang members homes and making sure they're complying with the conditions of their probation or parole.

February 18, 2008 8:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fresno PD cracks down on Asian gangs

By KSEE 24 News
Feb 6, 2008

Fresno police are in the middle of a one-day gang sweep focusing on Asian gangs in east central and southeast Fresno.

A rash of shootings and increased gang activity prompted police to conduct Wednesday’s operation.

Two arrests were made in an east central Fresno neighborhood of Asian gang members who police said were in violation of their parole. Fresno police are targeting the area of south of Shields and east of First street.

Police said their concern is for the innocent residents who may be in danger of being caught in gang crossfire.

The sweep will continue until early Thursday morning.

Meanwhile, Fresno's crackdown is pushing gang members into surrounding communities.

Both Reedley and Sanger have reported a surge in gang activity.

February 18, 2008 8:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

g Expert Talks About Gangs
By 250 News
Sunday, February 17, 2008
by Corrin Peet

There are 129 known and active gangs in B.C. . It may seem like a large number, Kirk says it’s because the police forces have become more efficient at identifying these groups as gangs.

There are three levels of gangs that can be identified:

Top level, organized crime such as the Mafia, Asian and motorcycle gangs.

Mid Level, not quite organized crime, but above the level of “street gangs”

Low Level : Street level groups.

February 18, 2008 8:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Top level, organized crime such as the Mafia, Asian and motorcycle gangs.

February 18, 2008 9:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sweep targets Southeast Asian gangs in Fresno

February 18, 2008 9:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Run, Run, Run the Asian Math & Science Gang is coming !!!

And the ignorant cholos will scatter like cockroaches..

February 18, 2008 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And the ignorant cholos will scatter like cockroaches..

Rant, rant, rant, White Separatist that you are. Your hatred is undeniable and the longer you rant the more you show yourself as a textbook common racist. You use the same incomprehensible drivel the world has heard from right-wing idiots one million times over.

Your blogs have been interesting in that small way that it's shocking that ugly extremist haters like you still pollute the planet. But you dug yourself a deep hole. Your blogs will henceforth be dismissed on Mayor Sam as rantings by a racist sack of crap.

February 18, 2008 10:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Your blogs have been interesting in that small way that it's shocking that ugly extremist haters like you still pollute the planet. But you dug yourself a deep hole. Your blogs will henceforth be dismissed on Mayor Sam as rantings by a racist sack of crap.

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Well that does not change the fact that the great majority of gang members in California are mexican. And the biggest prison gang by far, is the mexican mafia.

Do you really think just becuase you post one story about an asian gang we are supposed to think asain gangs are the ones doing the most murders in Los Angeles. Spin all you want everybody with a set of eyes knows there are thousands of low life criminal cholos in Los Angeles and they fill our state prisons. Why don't you look that up and tell us how many latinos gangs members are in prison.

You can't deflect the truth that mexicans are the BY FAR the majority of street gang members. How many asian gangs are L.A. top 11 gang list?

February 18, 2008 11:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FACTS:
Asian gangs have become a huge problem in Central and Northern California.

Los Angeles exports gang violence around the world. L.A. exported the Asian gangs. It starts here. Therefore, it's all Los Angeles' problem.

There are five black gangs on the LAPD Top 11 list, but that doesn't interest you, either.

It's debatable that the Mexican Mafia is the biggest prison gang. There's the Aryan Brotherhood.

Aryan Brotherhood foot soldiers, the Nazi Low Riders, have gained considerable strength on the streets.

All these gangs kill innocents.

Regardless of that, Simmons was killed by a kid with mental problems.

Officer Simmons' was not the victim of a gang killing, by anyone's definition, except a racist sack of crap like you.

February 18, 2008 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone sure has been busy trying to convince us that all Hisanic illegal immigration is good, and has only good and no negative impacts. And some others know otherwise and are sick of this propaganda. Attacking those who tell the truth as racists just curtails discussion. We get it.

February 18, 2008 12:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Gang nut at 12:55 talking out of his ass.

February 18, 2008 1:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

About the Asian woman pepper-sprayed over a failed attempt to grab her bag in an alley behind her house -- which turned out to be a lunchbag, not even a purse -- she had a stroke right after and is not expected to survive.

Westminster is a largely Asian area, and before she became paralyzed she told police that the suspect is a Latina around 20 wearing a hoodie. Not to claim that all Latinas a

re gangsters by any means, but when you have a case like this, committing crime outside your ethnic group, this is much more likely than an Asian mugging a Latina. And they probably wouldn't be stupid enough to kill a victim over a lunchbox. To the nut who's always arguing that white and Asian gangs are terrorizing our streets, look at the stats. First of all the Asian areas like Little Saigon or Central Valley were settled by legal immigrants fleeing Vietnam, Cambodia or other Killing Fields, and they tend to terrorize each other, mainly the unassimilated old people. Awful and cruel, but not the numbers or danger to the general public of Hispanic gangs.

As for the black gangs, of course they've been around for decades and dealing drugs, but the Hispanics with direct and close connections to Hispanic drug cartels in Latin America have changed the game, made it all more vicious. By trying to drive blacks out of their own neighborhoods and killing innocents like Cheryl Green, a teen riding his bike in Hollywood -- they've upped the ante. And among their main non-gang victims, illegal Hispanics who won't pay taxes to them as Mafia Dons.

February 18, 2008 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Their main victims are rival gang members. Stop spinning your racist dreck!

February 18, 2008 5:54 PM  

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