The Power of Student Activism Defeats Hugo Chavez At His Own Game
I wish the college students in Los Angeles would put down their game controllers and iPods long enough to pull off what college students in Venezuela just pulled off:
CNBC news just reported that although Hugo Chavez lost his "Nunenesque" Term-limit extension vote at the polls this weekend, it wasn't because he wasn't trying to fix the vote.
In the previous election, at polling locations where very few people showed up to vote, Chavez won big in those locations. (100 people vote, and Chavez somehow gets 1000 votes there.) And this is how he won the last time.
THIS TIME, college students sent out representatives to nearly every campus, and on election day, they were there to watch the poll (and probably vote against him while they were there), and Uncle Hugo took six hours to concede, once the final results were in, as he tried to figure out what to do about it.
Nothing even he could do about it, thanks to power to the people!
zumatimes.com
CNBC news just reported that although Hugo Chavez lost his "Nunenesque" Term-limit extension vote at the polls this weekend, it wasn't because he wasn't trying to fix the vote.
In the previous election, at polling locations where very few people showed up to vote, Chavez won big in those locations. (100 people vote, and Chavez somehow gets 1000 votes there.) And this is how he won the last time.
THIS TIME, college students sent out representatives to nearly every campus, and on election day, they were there to watch the poll (and probably vote against him while they were there), and Uncle Hugo took six hours to concede, once the final results were in, as he tried to figure out what to do about it.
Nothing even he could do about it, thanks to power to the people!
zumatimes.com
Labels: los angeles politics
Posted by Zuma Dogg @ 12/03/2007 08:20:00 AM
28 Comments:
Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen (removes hat and bows low with flourish):
I'd say the whole thing was rather brilliant, savvy?
LA may have to go to the brink like Venezuela for people to wake up.
Dude, are you crazy? We students are too busy sipping frappacinos and watching podcasts of MTV's date with Tia Tequila, to bother with anything like politicals, or freedom, or stuff like that. For that matter, by the end of this year, we will be completely weened of reading newspapers , and even blogs. The only thing really worth reading are text message from my bro's asking wherer I am and what I'm doing. If you want to stay with our game, you'd text us where Lindsay and Paris are having lunch, not this BS about schools, Home Depot and all that other crap. And hey, you'd better have a career set for me when I graduate with all the beni's and a decent salary over 150K, or I'll spam you dude. The guy sitting next to me at Starbucks can do that for me, when he wakes up.
The problem with your suggestion, Zuma, is that many of the very college students you want to vote, think of Hugo as a hero. Is that what you really want?
9:16am,
Bravo! Thanks for making me cranky, because that is exactly "a day in the life". (Who says there is a writer's strike? Miss talkin' to you bro...you know I love ya!)
9:17am said, "The problem with your suggestion, Zuma, is that many of the very college students you want to vote, think of Hugo as a hero."
9:17am, the point is, according to the CNBC report, the students who activated, who showed up at the polls to be watchdoggs -- were tugging AGAINST Chavez, and that's why his "magic" didn't work, and he lost.
So maybe it's not that you are not correct that he has a lot of college students who worship him...but it appears that they weren't the ones who activated and hit all the college campuses.
Hugo was one of the few with the balls to stand up to George Bush. The incumbent PM in Australia just got voted out largely by the youth vote because of his partnership with Bush. The new PM announced that Australian troops will be pulled out of Iraq next year. And young and disaffected youth in Paris have been rioting against the government since last week. Just saying that a lot is going on with young people right now and I don't think it's because of any overarching political belief. It's more about standing up to power.
I was on the beach yesterday, some dude from the chamber of commerce came by lauding Harry Perry. when I spoke to him he started spouting off about east side selling goods from rented spaces, and how Linda Lucks was 'in charge' of everything on the Boardwalk, so I should talk to her
omg, I had uncontrollable fits of hysterical mirth.
I said 'how come she couldn't deflect the 2 million dollar law suit that we initiated."
his reply? "she's been here longer than you, so she must know more than you"
that's like sending a chimp to the space station, then sending a scientist 10 yrs later but still keeping the chimp in charge 'cause he's been there longer"
ha fuc*in ha.
hey dude, cause I don't care for your name, keep the f*ck out of the federal protected expression activity on the west side.
you're out there applauding Harry Perry in front of tourists, yet your precious Linda Lucks tried stopping him selling his T shirts.
people specifically come to Venice Beach for the artistic content of the west side goods.
just because theres a handful of individuals conducting unprotected activity doesn't mean you broadly hit all artists with some illegal ordinance.
Linda Lucks has been here a long time, so SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW!
just hurry up and bring out your next piece of fatally flawed legislation. the artist class is waiting to file on all yo asses.
and trust me, all city council, mayor, and Lapd and DPR commissioners,....
ALL OF YOUR NAMES WILL BE ON THE NEXT SUIT, because the next one is going to be personal.
I didn't spend the last 18 months at City Hall for the good of my health.
If you choose to ignore my repeated warnings, then I'll have no choice but to proceed without prejudice for name or position.
Linda will be taking a mighty fall when all is said and DONE.
Huckabee, Obama now lead
Obama pulls ahead for Democrats in Iowa Poll (high numbers with women)
By THOMAS BEAUMONT
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
.....Barack Obama has pulled ahead in the race for Iowa's Democratic presidential caucuses, while the party's national frontrunner Hillary Clinton has slipped to second in the leadoff nominating state, according to The Des Moines Register's new Iowa Poll.
There's more than one way to skin a cat; you have pitted yourself against a machine that doesn't care about cost or time.
You can spend the rest of yuour worthless life trying to validate your existence, but in the end, you'll still be an unemployed, homeless bum like ZD.
Tilt on, Sir Quixote...
If our students were as politically motivated as those in Venezuela, they would marching in Washington D.C to impeach Bush and Cheney for the war in Iraq. I wish our students would march to impeach Bush and Cheney for a stupid war and torture of prisoners of war. The idiots in the White House do not know what the Geneva Convention is.
Great post Zuma too bad our college students are more concerned with their I-Pods, I-Phones, and Paris Hilton.
When will they march that Zuma Dogg take a shower?
“Democracy is not something we inherit, but is something we have to fight for every day”
If you give others the power to govern you don’t complain how they do it.
As long as you can be in your comfort zone who cares that young people, mothers and fathers are giving their lives in Irak. A war that we were brainwashed to believe was necessary.
The power of the people is so great, but we give it away to “big daddy”, so he can take care of us. The problem is “big daddy’s” interests are his own and not ours, “Big daddy” puts all sorts of distractions in our way, so we cannot see what he is doing behind closed doors. And as long as we have our TV, sports, shopping for the latest stuff, we will continue to be comfortable and distracted. In the meantime day by day we are giving our power away until one day we will loose it completely.
Great show of courage by the masses in Venezuela. Hugo Chavez is a thug.
Mexico should take a lesson from the Venezuela people and throw out that corrupt goverment!!!!
You've been telling me for two years that Zuma is the death of the blog.
I don't understand why - with the lone exception of that one day when the rest of the world found out what we know about Mirthala and we had like 8000 uniques - our uniques have never been higher.
We're #4 in search for Janice Hahn! Thanks Janice! We're in the top ten for Jan Perry, #5 for Ed Reyes, #7 for Greig Smith, #8 for Wendy Greuel, ditto for Herb, #9 for Rosendahl. The rest rank lower for us. But what that means for those of you who get a Mayor Sam link on your first page of search, folks looking for information on you are more than likely to come here. So be nice to us.
By the way, speaking of Jim Alger, we rank #2 for him behind his own site.
For you dumbshits, a unique is a single person (or computer technically) that comes to the site on a daily basis. Its different than hits which does not necessarily measure the number of visitors. Those can be inflated by blogging burros and folks complaining about ZD.
By the way, do a Google search for any number of topics related to LA politics and see how high we rank in search. Indeed, search Google for Los Angeles politics and and see that we come up second only to the LA Times -
Ahead of LA Observed
Ahead of LAist
Ahead of LA Voice
Ahead of Boi from Troy
Ahead of any politician or organization in LA
Ahead of the Daily News, LA Weekly, Downtown News, Citybeat, Channels 2-13, etc.
But yea, the blog is dying.
Now go play on the freeway dum dum.
San Francisco ID program: Legitimizing illegal immigration:
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/11/28/cstillwell.DTL&hw=illegal+immigrants&sn=005&sc=558)
Yet even as this drama unfolded on the national stage, San Francisco city officials were preparing to implement a similarly misguided policy. Supervisor Tom Ammiano introduced a measure earlier this month to provide municipal identification cards to illegal immigrants, transgender people, senior citizens no longer capable of driving, and other city residents, who either cannot or will not obtain a state-issued driver's license. To be eligible, residents will need to provide a passport, foreign driver's license or other photo ID, in addition to a recent utility bill or bank statement. The Board of Supervisors approved the measure 10-1 and Mayor Gavin Newsom has pledged to do sign it into law. The proposal will go into effect in August, 2008, making San Francisco the largest city to offer such a program.
The ID cards will serve as proof of identity for anything from city business to obtaining library cards to contending with police stops. Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Washington Mutual, and US Bank have all expressed interest in accepting the ID cards, and according to the Associated Press, "Government agencies and nonprofit groups that receive city funds would be required to accept the cards as valid identification and proof of residency except for hiring or other areas where doing so conflicts with federal or state laws."
While some of the program's critics have focused on the ID cards' appeal to San Francisco's transgender population and expressed concern that the apparently quaint notion of gender will be marginalized in the process, this is merely a side note to the main issue at hand. As stated by the San Mateo County Times, the ID program will serve to "legitimize the city's estimated 40,000 illegal immigrants." Opponents of the program, as noted by the San Francisco Chronicle, second that conclusion, fearing that the IDs will have "the effect of legitimizing the decisions of people who entered or have remained in the country illegally and making it more difficult for the federal government to enforce (federal immigration) laws."
Comparing Hugo Chavez to Fabian Nunez?
Zuma, with a stretch like that, you should be playing first base for the Dodgers!
2:35pm Jack,
Speaking of baseball analogies, "nice catch" on the stretch! I'm learning about how to spin, y'all! Good tag!
great post Zuma!
And as a "unique", I came for the MAV/mirthala soap, and stayed on because the Big ZD rocks from the 818 to the 213.
You go, boy!
xoxo
Zooms, I could have said you were "out in left field," but that's a post for another day!
btw, when I get paid for spinning, I'll let you know. In the meantime, I spin from the heart.
Zuma Dogg,
I told you that you don't realize the Power you hold.
You can relate to people especially
the younger Voting age.
You are the Pied Piper, they will follow.
That, is what everyone is afraid of.
ZD is much too modest to admit that he was the conmsultant to the student movement that defeated Chavez!!
Viva El Perro de Zumma!!!!
That explains the long absences. And here I thought it might be drugs. Silly me.
Yeah, students with the help of the CIA. Come on Zuma I cant beleive you are unaware of the CIA memo that exposed "Operation Pliers" in regards to the propsed reforms yesterday. Look it up. I know your not too buisy working on your personal hygiene
the people deserve the government they elect.
often they don't have much choice
Are you sure we elect the government? Have you watched the movie “Hacking Democracy?”
We need to wake up.
Are you so sure the voters are often even qualified to weigh in on whether certain laws should be passed? For example the Jessica's Law against sex offenders: sounds good to banish them from anywhere near kids, etc. etc. -- but it has resulted in giving them virtually no place to live, just as the opponents predicted would be the case. So they crowd into one- room motels in the boonies, with no jobs nearby, and are ripped off by the owners.
Even if you don't feel sorry for them (and why should you) the point is, it's an idiotic plan to "solve" a problem this way. If they can't get jobs or housing, they go on welfare or sneak off, go to great lengths to hide their identity, and law enforcement just doesn't have the manpower to track them down.
It's also being challenged as cruel and unusual punishment, and unconstitutional. Another expense.
70% of voters approved this law because it was "feel good" despite all the warnings -- how smart are the voters?
We can point to endless laws just like this.
Similarly, if we have stupid city and state officials (I can think of a few that send my head spinning), it's because their district's voters are not too bright either.
Ideally, we should elect smart people and let them lead on issues like this, checking their legality.
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