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Saturday, August 18, 2007

Saturday Political and Cultural Hotsheet

While a baby's death is clear evidence of failure of some sort, it is very disappointing to me to see Gloria Molina convict a social worker before all the facts are known about Baby Jasmine:

"The child should have been taken from the mother, but the social worker failed the child," [Gloria Molina said].

Making political hay out of a baby's death without a full report in is nearly as reprehensible as a baby at risk falling through the cracks, Supervisor Molina. Wait, then blame. After all, someone may even end up blaming County supes for their "zero tolerance of children in the containment zone" policy....


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Markland is good this morning. Links to "LA's premiere Chicano blogger" and "the Downtown blogger ice-cream anti-social" (3 p.m. Sunday in Weller Court).


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If you read the website rather than the print, you might have missed this item in the Downtown news. Sam Hall Kaplan on downtown Nimbyism: residents of the arts district are opposing "a proposal for a restaurant, gourmet shop and a lounge bar to be located in an already designated retail building at 515 S. Molino St." Though the residents have lost, he relates it to a nascent movement that will likely oppose higher density downtown in the future.


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None of the local cultural blogs linked to my review of Patti Smith at Santa Monica Pier, even though they didn't feature any of their own either. That's not a problem with my review, it's a problem with them [ed.: and if you want ego, we have plenty here to go around]. Especially the way they cover women over 45---they don't. Regardless, I'll be back in SaMo for Los Lobos in two weeks for the season finale.

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191 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lame ass clowncil members again behaving irresponsibly. They're still wasting millions on special event waivers

But even as the council cut taxes, it was told the city's reserve fund is in perilous shape and the city is facing another $200 million shortfall next year.

"Basically, what we're saying is that we have to cut about $20 million a month if we want to be in balance next year," Councilman Bernard Parks said.

August 18, 2007 9:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This blog sucks without Higby. Where's the story on De Vera taking 125k from Ed Reyes? The rest of you are so clueless as to what the people want to read and comment on!

August 18, 2007 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. M., perhaps no one in the cultural community linked to your article because Patti Smith lacks a certain...uh, relevance?

Don't get me wrong, "Because The Night" was a great song and it came out when we were all starving for anything Springsteen, but Patti was far more poet than musician (with many of us questioning whether she should sing at all) and far more East Coast than West.

So, rock on, you old dog, I'm sure your upcoming Los Lobos review will draw a lot more attention.

August 18, 2007 12:33 PM  

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August 18, 2007 12:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am with both 11:11 and 9:44. Seems like Higbby has left the inmates in charge of the asylum and the Mutt's attacks on Alger are beyond the pale.

August 18, 2007 12:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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August 18, 2007 2:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger- it's Saturday go to the beach. You're not fooling anyone.

August 18, 2007 2:28 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Someone said..."on the floor in coffee he deliberately spilled,"

WHO IS THE F*CKING MINDREADER ON THIS BLOG???

I AM HERE TO SAY, THE COFFEE SPILL WAS A 100% accidental bump, in a crowded situation. I DEMAND THAT THE PERSON WHO SAID "DELIBERATELY SPILLED" PROVIDE A POLYGRAPH TEST FOR ZD TO TAKE WHERE I WILL PROVE, NOT ONLY WAS IT AN ACCIDENT, IT WASN'T MY COFFEE AND I DID NOT SPILL IT.

I did however sieze the moment from a comedic improv angle. And I have not yet seen the law against that? Maybe you should make the decision for the rest of the U.S. Thanks liar!

August 18, 2007 2:32 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

...but ALSO DEMAND THAT HE BE KICKED OUT OF CITY HALL."

EXTRA LOL! Who is this person...they are either pulling an Andy Kaufman themselves, or are off the rails of the crazy train.

August 18, 2007 2:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm with 2:20. That's why I don't post to Zuma's threads anymore.

Zuma's antics take away not only much of the public's time, but also from the MS Network.

Otherwise, someone would have caught this re: the CA budget and the 14 Republican holdouts in today's L.A. Times:

"The senators said their concerns this year for legislation benefiting, for example, railroad companies, the timber industry and agriculture -- and against trial lawyers -- are natural given their backgrounds and constituents. By the same token, they oppose a plan to give Los Angeles $150 million out of $250 million allocated for traffic-light synchronization.

'We have to make sure that it's fairly distributed throughout the state,' said state Sen. Dave Cogdill of Modesto, who is vying to be the next GOP Senate leader. 'We don't want to see it go to the city of Los Angeles or the Bay Area.'

August 18, 2007 2:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't think it's Patti Smith's age per se, "being over 45" that keeps people from being that interested in her -- look at Madonna, who's 50ish. But looks and acts half her age. Patti is from an era where earthiness in the Janis Joplin style is what she was shooting for, that raw, primal energy, which comes across in shows i've seen of her on tv -- didn't catch the live show at the Pier.

Rosanna Arquette made a doc about rocker women of the earlier era, and Patti was featured too. She's just doddang ugly and proud of it, doesn't even run a comb through her hair or use makeup, crooked teeth, plus she's out of shape -- some of the women commented that they were about the music not the sex kittens many women rockers are today. They don't have to sell sex, but if you're gonna look at someone for an hour or more, they gotta either be cute or have something visual.

Well, that's cool, but that's why Madonna still draws crowds, still looks hot, while the oldtime rockers who don't play the image game, don't draw younger crowds.

I agree with the dump-zuma people.
How can you ask for an intelligent response to stuff, then have that guy pop up with his lunacies?

August 18, 2007 2:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Alger lies when he says he never posts anon. For Christ sake he was Councilman John, got caught by Mayor Sam and still lied about it. Just like he lied about Home Depot. Jim is not as universally loved as he thinks. His own councilman won't take his calls.

August 18, 2007 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jack Hoff: Wow, that Cogdill from Modesto is caught red-handed saying he's doing everything in his power to keep money from going to the (Dem strongholds of) L A and San Fran.

The local papers really gotta play it up, try to bring some heat on the guy. It's clear the Republicans did the same with the gas taxes that were raised by taxes here in L A for DOT needs. Now another one.

Saying he wants to spread the money around the state, when we have the worst intersections/ traffic in the friggin' country, is intentionally destructive.

Arnold is "disgusted," but what does that translate into? Are there any moderate Republicans to work with, pushing Godgill's crew?

Our local pols are spinning their wheels if those crooks in Sacramento don't get major exposure and heat on this.

Previous Mailanader thread did scare up some passionate posts on this, but then got waylaid by that fool zuma attacking alger and the windmills he battles against.

August 18, 2007 2:57 PM  

Blogger Councilman John said:

Jim was me? Now that would be news. Many thought he was, but I am in fact multiple people.

I don't even know who I was completely.

August 18, 2007 2:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When did Mayor Sam "catch" Jim Alger doing anything? I'd love to hear what he has to say about this obscene attack on Alger.

August 18, 2007 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think Jim knows he isn't "universally loved", but he did help us quite a bit with the Home Depot.

As usual there are plenty of people who will bash him while he is in the fight, and then bash him for not fighting after he won.

August 18, 2007 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dog, consider your site for what? A scathing article? You are the enemy, sir!

August 18, 2007 3:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 2:44 - Smith not taking Alger's calls after Alger repeatedly waxed the floor with Smith's ass should come as no suprise.

If I were Alger, I'd wear it as a badge of honor but this shit ZD just tried to pull is crap. JM and MS should put a stop to this shit before it gets too far out of control.

ZD should not be using his position on this blog to attack community leaders, especially fellow bloggers.

August 18, 2007 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I checked out his site and to my dismay, discovered it be rabidly anti-alcohol. Nyet, Nyet, Nyet.

August 18, 2007 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is Jim Alger "lying" about his involvement in the no2home depot campaign...

http://jimalger.net/gallery1/thumbs/tn_070305event001a.jpg

oh wait... whats that sign say??? No Home Depot on Sunland Tujunga!!!

August 18, 2007 3:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is this crazy asshole? Alger did alot for us and attacking him will bring out many of his supporters. (especially when we get a mass email telling us Jim is under attack and to get over to this site quick)

August 18, 2007 3:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Holy shit... your serious???

Got to say one thing, Alger has a rapid response team that makes the Clinton War-room look like an india based call center... here is my question? Why?

I went to his website and c'mon guys, that is a campaign site with no district map... when is he going to announce his run>?

August 18, 2007 3:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Dear Friends;

As you know Jim Alger is constantly under attack by those who don't believe in the things we care about, choosing what gets built in our own communities, changing the status quo and overall returning the power to the people. Usually there is little that can be done about these attacks but today is different.

Jim has been attacked by a blogger at Mayor Sam’s Sister City and while usually we would say “let it be”, this gives us a unique chance to fight back. It is important not to allow these lies to ferment any longer than necessary for in the world of politics, lies become truth when repeated often enough.

When you have a moment, please visit the blog Mayor Sam’s Sister City (http://mayorsam.blogspot.com) and tell them to stop attacking Jim Alger!

Thank you as always,

Marc Fiorillo
Friends of Jim Alger

August 18, 2007 3:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

STOP ATTACKING JIM ALGER!!!

August 18, 2007 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, 2:57, there they go again....

However, we should thank our local Republican senators for wanting to withhold another $150 Million for light synchronization in L.A., so feel free to give a shout out to:

George Runner (R) (Antelope Valley)
Tom McClintock (R) (Thousand Oaks)
Bob Margett (R) (Glendora)

Give 'em your thanks and best wishes and tell them that we in Los Angeles realize their idiot policy only slows down the very constituents they wish to serve -- folks who live outside and commute into L.A. Bravo, Senators! Nicely done, you fools!

August 18, 2007 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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August 18, 2007 3:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't know who is attacking Jim but it should stop. He is a man who has fought hard to make a change in this world. To attack him is simply unamerican.

August 18, 2007 3:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim's team sent out a mass email to supporters to come blog on mayor Sam??? I am not sure if that is genius or stupid. Actually, probably the former, by creating an enemy his "troops" get stronger.

August 18, 2007 3:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The last thread on previous zuma post against Alger gives the name of a guy who wants everyone to organize in protest against this zuma person both to Sam to remove him (Sam removed Jim instead, when they had a problem, BAD call!), and to desist from his antics in person at City Hall, too.

This is libelous, Sam, don't you think? Aren't you concerned? HELLO?

August 18, 2007 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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August 18, 2007 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bravo, Zuma! You are finally getting all the attention you could possibly want from Alger's rapid response team or do you still think that all these posts are from Jim himself?

When he attacks the CM's and Mayor, they can't respond and so he has become emboldened. Now, he has set a trap for himself.

People, you've gotta go out in force to City Hall and state your opinion of Zuma there. The CM's are beside themselves with being unable to reign him in and prevent these attacks against themselves -- zuma himself told us that -- but your people power can finally do it.

August 18, 2007 3:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma is a vile pig who isn't worth the air we breathe. He has destroyed this blog, destroyed public comment and will destroy the remote facility of Van Nuys City Hall.

God bless you Alger for standing up to this jackass.

August 18, 2007 4:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey ZD, come join us... we're at Vincenzos Pizza in Santa Clarita laughing our asses off as we talk about how cool Jim Alger is.

I don't know the guy personally but I got the text message so what the hell

SCREW YOU DOGG! Leave Alger alone!

August 18, 2007 4:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does Zuma do Zima?...that non compos mentis has to be on something. A Twinkies sugar high??

August 18, 2007 4:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:01: You have a point there about him destroying the remote facility at Van Nuys city hall. Whenever anyone wanders in there who isn't one of his few supporters, like the lady he "interviewed in his van" he boasts on his other post, they look like they're in the wrong place. It must feel really creepy, being there with just him, matt and two women who say they love zuma and we "need him" at City Hall.

Some people from the Valley have commented from downtown instead. Can you imagine hanging around for hours in this company, waiting your turn to speak?

Zuma has boasted that the Van Nuys facility was built just for him, and it is becoming to seem so. Is that we want our tax dollars spent?

August 18, 2007 4:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Mayor Sam keeps this guy on the blog just because it increases his number of hits, and hence the Blog Rank, then after this round of protests against the Dogg WORKS, SO WE HAVE TO STICK IT OUT UNTIL THEN,
everyone needs to boycott Sam for at least a couple of weeks, no hits, to let him watch his rank fall to 189.

August 18, 2007 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Come on, Zuma! I’ve downed another Jack rocks and I’m raring for some more mental gymnastics! Are you afraid of the Most Excellent Jim Alger. Let’s rassle!

Regards,
Frank

August 18, 2007 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Puppy got his ass handed to him today by the Algerites. Now he has threatened Alger in his other post...

Alger could take this asshole blindfolded.

August 18, 2007 4:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who laced the mutts Alpo today? What bug git up his ass about Alger anyway and why the FUCK is Sam letting this bullshit go on???

ZD needs to get evicted posthaste.

August 18, 2007 4:18 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

to all the people who are taking issue with my comments from the podium in Council chambers:

Please be sure to visit lacity.org website, click the on demand video link and do a search for "zuma" and please watch all of my public comments from the past few months.

See if what I am actually saying, and my presentation matches the way it is being described to you.

In my opinion, my best possible defense is for people to watch my actual comments and how I am presenting them; as opposed to the way certain jealous, ineffective, lazy, losers are portraying them to be.

And when you have Councilmembers saying things like, "It's like Zuma Dogg says...". Or, "Zuma Dogg is right"...perhaps you are not getting an accurate portrayal of reality. CHECK THE ARCHIVES FOR MY COMMENTS OF THE PAST COUPLE/FEW MONTHS. THE MORE RECENT THE BETTER. Then let's see Alger do that.

August 18, 2007 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Z Dog, you can act any damn fool way you wish.

August 18, 2007 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We don't have to check a thing you flea infested horses ass. You scream "come to www.zumatimes.com and your doing some next great thing bla bla bla bla.

Where does a lowlife like you get the BALLS to attack a man like Jim Alger???

Get the hell off this blog you assmunch.

August 18, 2007 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I got an email that this man was attacking Jim Alger... why do you support the raping of our city Mr. Dog?

I have seen your "evidence" and it is a disgrace. The LAPD should throw you out on you patard for going on the way you do. Show some respect for people, including yourself. Stop attacking Mr. Alger.

August 18, 2007 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

After careful consideration it is safe to say that team Alger has cleaned the clock of the alltime defeated crybaby loser, Zuma dogg himself.

Score another goal for Alger... and thanks for livening up a Saturday afternoon. Couldn't hit the refresh button fast enough! LOL

August 18, 2007 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam, Zuma's uptightvibe is disempowering your blog...he's dragging the whole team down!

August 18, 2007 4:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:27 "why do you support the raping of our city Mr. Dog?" omg THAT WAS FUNNY SHIT!

Yea ZD, don't you know you're either with Alger, or you're with the terrorists. How could you support the terrorists ZD (even though you do kinda look like one)

August 18, 2007 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:34pm=clever zd attack. OBVIOUSLY not alger, unlike the rest of them.

August 18, 2007 4:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The dogs are barking at the sky
And ol' wiskered Zuma Dogg stumbles out of the bar.
He’s had too much wine
But he’s stumblig and today he’s had himself a good ol’ time.
Zuma now is lying in the gutter
It’s summer
And the sun is shining on his ass.
The mushroom lady, his wife finds him
And picks up a half-smoked butt.
She lights it and lets him sleep on.

August 18, 2007 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In a genre crowded with self-styled mavericks and eccentrics, ZD manages to stand head and shoulders above other Big Baby Boys.

August 18, 2007 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There’s still no guarantee that Zuma won’t drunkenly crash his car into a propane filler station and go out in a fiery holocaust.

August 18, 2007 4:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma dogg,

Are you still convinced that there has been only one person out there blogging against you, because you're universally loved?

Or is this all Jim Alger blogging as fast as he can?

August 18, 2007 5:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg says,

It's just all Jim Alger blogging as fast as he can.

I AM UNIVERSALLY LOVED, MAN!!!!!

HOO-DE-HOO!!!!!

August 18, 2007 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He is also convinced that he is even remotely relevant to anything, the sky is purple and pigs can fly.

August 18, 2007 5:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My name is Pepe Le Moko. I live in Los Angeles, my neighbor is Zuma Dogg. Each morning from his balcony overlooking the marketplace he sings, “For Every Man There’s A Woman.” He's an idiot and I have called the cops on him over twenty times. Sam, be nice guy and get rid of the kid.

August 18, 2007 5:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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August 18, 2007 5:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can you spot a person who's going to be trouble the moment he walks up to the horseshoe?
Most of the time. Sometimes just the way they’re dressed (er, Zuma ring a distant bell?), the way they hold their face. Someone who is overly friendly to perfect strangers. A huge tip off is if it’s night time and he's wearing shades. Right away I think this guy is an asshole. Of course, I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

August 18, 2007 5:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam, you still having fun watching all this in "amusement?"

August 18, 2007 5:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The fact that Sam has done nothing to reign in ZD says much about Higby. This blog used to be for legitimate debate and inside info, now it has devolved into a place where this jackass can mount attacks against anyone he feels like including community activists.

August 18, 2007 5:36 PM  

Blogger Jim said:

The following, are Zuma Dogg's all-time favorite movies.

1- Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1956. In the small town of Santa Mira, psychiatrist Kevin McCarthy investigates when patients claim their relatives are not "being themselves".

2- Earth Vs. the Flying Saucers 1956. "Aliens" invade Earth again, but this time it's an all out attack!

3- Invaders from Mars 1953. After young boy sees a 'meteor' crash in the field behind his house, he begins to notice the adults around him (including his parents, uncle's, aunt's ) acting "very strange".
It turns out that the humans are being controlled by giant green Martians, who take orders from a tentacled head in a glass tank (Jim Alger).

LMAO.

August 18, 2007 5:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

After getting zuma off this blog, boycott it so Sam's rating goes down to below 200 and he sees people are not having fun here, like he thinks.

August 18, 2007 5:44 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Someone said..."to help the CM's prove their case, that you are disrupting the public comment time."

If I am causing a disruption, either the President will call the Sgt at Arms, OR, the Sgt at Arms may act on their own, if I am causing a disruption. So you can rest easy.

August 18, 2007 5:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mailander, there are worse things going on here than no one read your review of Patti Smith.

Can't you pressure Sam/Higby on this?

Libeling someone and making threats to devote your tv time to humiliating him, is probably libelous. Lawyers?

August 18, 2007 5:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If this many people are writing in on a hot afternoon when it's over 100 in the VAlley, and any normal person is either at the beach or in a pool or some cool mall or restaurant, there must be hundreds more out there who would if they heard about it.

Hey, pretty sneaky of zuma to post his attack on Alger the weekend CC goes on recess and the staffers are gone, too. So this is obviously the grass roots talking. Imagine if he'd done this last week!

August 18, 2007 5:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fact that zuma was so instantly in love minute Huizar spent a minute with him, like he's been in love with Zine ever since Zine did the same, proves he's a star-struck would-be power-f-er, and he's just jealous.

HE's even jealous of Alger, because Alger gets attention without it just being ridicule, only kind zuma gets.

August 18, 2007 6:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma, if the CM's weren't sure you're a disruption, they wouldn't have all banded together to get you banned for a year from council chambers. That's what you yourself reported here, but because you're rambling and incoherent the details weren't clear.

So don't play stupid on that one, that they don't find you disruptive.

Problem is, because they're "the man" who have some people who think ticking them off is just funny. The infantile and self-deluded people like you, who actually think your/their opinions matter to any sane person.

I guess this "lovefest" will still go over your head.

August 18, 2007 6:15 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

5:20pm said..."Sticking to a topic for two minutes...or elsewhere, really isn't hard for anyone else...it's only hard for you." [Judging by the comments on this blog, I would say it might not be that easy for some people. Remember, have to stick to the item, can't rely on talking about my hat and glasses.]

5:20pm said..."If Jan Perry overlooked a normal person's comment card, as sometimes happens with Eric and Wendy, too, the normal person wouldn't attack Perry on live TV. With his mutt Matt joining in and both smirking.

[Excuse me...although Perry ignored Dowd's notice that he had a card in on the item, Garcetti obviously felt the need to step in and back up Dowd. But yeah, your average person would have just let the politician get away with it.

AND, are you upset with me for thanking Jan Perry on TV, yesterday, for her calling me up, in response to my concern that since another speaker spoke without filling out a card, or being called to the podium, and wasn't called out of order; and wasn't removed; and since they called for extra time for "those people" (anti-bush people) and ZD said you can't set aside time for a group like that; Perry responded with the no-grudge discretion to call ZD, since the Sgt of Arms informed her that my card was one of the first turned in, anyway.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU JAN PERRY FOR DOING THAT!!! It has been a pretty long streak of CM Perry appearing to lose ZD's card, forget to call it, call me off topic (when I believe a Federal judge would find I WAS on topic)...and YEAH, that's gonna piss me off...

BUT, in my book...all it takes is one "Groundhog's Day" moment...like Jan calling up ZD without any bamboozle -- and I'm ready to hug her on TV 35 and tell her what a great public speaker she is and how intelligent sounding she comes off. (Even if I opposed to her position.)

I seems Wendy has cut the bamboozle -- and Eric has, too. And in my mind, so has Jan. And ZD knows hopefully knows the difference between an occasional error during a busy meeting with a lot of cards, and has found that in those cases, Council recognizes that. ]

said..."that you are disrupting the public comment time." [Sorry, it is libelous to say I am disrupting public comment time, and I would like to ask Mayor Sam to please look into who posted the comment, if that is possible, for further legal action that I will absolutley take if you are able to provide me that info.]

And no one will go to Van Nuys any more because you guys are there. [This too...completley libelous and a complete lie. I thought it was now that TOO many people go to Van Nuys now, because of me. So, I guess not enough, too many people are going to Van Nuys. And whoever doesn't show up to speak up for what they believe because someone else is there, is a crybaby and a coward in my book. And in this case, is also a libelous, lying, coward, crybaby.]

August 18, 2007 6:28 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

dummy said..."if the CM's weren't sure you're a disruption, they wouldn't have all banded together to get you banned for a year from council chambers."

[No dummy...if i WAS a disruption they WOULD have been able to have me banned for a year.]

What is your position on Dirt Burnell and the Southwest Museum, though?

August 18, 2007 6:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim, you don't deserve this.

August 18, 2007 6:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So now there are two consecutive threads of people outraged at zuma's attack on jim alger. What next?

August 18, 2007 6:39 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

And in my opinion...they tried to go for the disruption angle to silence my political speak.

And OF COURSE if I was on their side of the rope, I would want to ban ZD for a year...but it's not over "disruption". That was about one bitter and broke down cop, at the end of a long career, at the end of a long, problematic meeting for reasons that had NOTHING to do with ZD (maybe Garcetti or O'Connell can tell you more about that day), and when he snapped...Council decided to try and use that tact to keep me out for a year. But bro, don't get it twisted...if there was disruption going on, they would have had me removed or arrested again. But of course given the opportunity, they should have tried to use that to keep me away. But it's about the political speak, not the behavior. Don't be a naive sucker.

Anyway, it's all too late, because they didn't get that...and ZD is pretty chill from the podium these days. Check the video. It's even more of a political nightmare...credible sounding delivery. (LOL!)

And I never said everyone loves ZD...but you say "noone" loves me and everyone hates me. That's a lie. When Councilmembers AND other public comment speakers refer to my comments...I don't think you can say, "noone" or "everyone". I'm not saying people haven't been put off by me...but I AM saying there seems to be evidence that ZD would get more votes than any anonymous pussies on this blog could ever buy.

August 18, 2007 6:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"If this many people are writing in on a hot afternoon when it's over. . ."

Wrong! Two people are posting here. One is Zuma Dogg and the other is the guy who posts anony-attacks on Zuma all day and then mysteriously arrives within 30 seconds of his name being mentioned. Noone buys it Jim.

August 18, 2007 6:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone who clearly sees nothing wrong with using this site to attack a community activist for no reason, except that he has periodically responded to insults about himself, but instead insists that he could get more votes than that person in the court of public opinion after all this, has exposed himself to all.

Can you imagine this spectacle in the halls of Sacramento or Washington?

August 18, 2007 6:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We need a televised debate to settle this once and for all. Dogg vs. Alger.

August 18, 2007 6:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Giuliani-McCain: That's the Ticket?

August 18, 2007 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said...
We need a televised debate to settle this once and for all. Dogg vs. Alger.


No gripping, no throwing, no kicking, no elbowing, and no poking at eyes or hitting at genitals, Zuma. One of the greatest pleasures in life is the comfortable silence in-between Zuma postings. You know what I’m talking about.

August 18, 2007 7:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sure if Jim asked them to, his supporters would go out to support him and prove in person that he is not writing all these posts himself. Anyway, it doesn't matter. This blog is sunk by all this attack by zuma, and even people who don't know Jim or support him on Home Depot will now be sympathetic to him.

August 18, 2007 7:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Right, the Dogg-Alger Debate live on CNN, as a "warm-up act" to the one between Giuliani-Romney, or maybe Clinton-Obama. No one could ever say Washington politics were dull again. And would prove they're as insane as a lot of people have said they are.

August 18, 2007 7:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam, Bring back Joe B to this blog!
I have no idea why you kicked him off, but look at what he has done
to make the Council respond to neighborhood concerns! He seems like the type of person you would want on your blog, even if you disagree with him on certain issues.

August 18, 2007 7:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg, what wine goes well with constant nagging?

August 18, 2007 7:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And it was Joe B, not Jim Alger that
led the fight against Home Depot.
Alger was just an adviser, as were many other people.

August 18, 2007 7:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD,
So your friends had to take you home. And carry you into your house. And you locked yourself in the bathroom all night. And you probably won’t be going back to Jimmy’s Cabana anymore. But don’t worry, we stuck you with the tab.

August 18, 2007 7:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:12, Joe B may have been the leader, but it was Abby Diamond that hit the home run!

August 18, 2007 7:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Oasis Grill was the most god-awful depressing place he had ever been, and he’d been in a lot of god-awful depressing places.

It was his fourth night straight. The bartender knew his name now and used it when greeting him upon arrival.

“Evening, Z-Dogg.”

August 18, 2007 7:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Say it loud
say it plowed,
Zima Dogg.

August 18, 2007 7:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am of the opinion that one could lure Zima Dogg into a flame-engulfed shack, tell him it’s a bar, and he’d gush in. “It’s a tiny bit warm, but don’t let that stop you from enjoying this truly unique bar experience Zuma.

August 18, 2007 7:39 PM  

Blogger Jim said:

Let’s be honest, whether we’re talking about movies, books or bars, negative reviews are generally the most entertaining. More importantly, they create a sense of scale. Without some honest dishing of the dirt, all the sugar being shoveled starts to stick in the craw.

August 18, 2007 7:44 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

7:14pm, 7:19pm, 7:39pm...

??? In case anyone is reading, whatever they are talking about is 100% completely manufactured.

August 18, 2007 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did anyone not tuned into the Z.D. temper tantrum today happen to catch this show down on Olvera Street?

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_6659023

August 18, 2007 7:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't like Zuma or Alger BUT why are the ST people upset Zuma is ANTI HOME DEPOT???

Those people don't know how to critically think, therefore they are lemmings

August 18, 2007 8:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma is more anti-development than Alger could hope to be

HINT
his wife works for a MAJOR player in suburban sprawl

August 18, 2007 8:04 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

Good evening boys and girls, wow i am not sure where to begin.

Let me start by thanking those that defended me, (although my guess is that it was 4 guys and a girl in a pizza shop and not hundreds of supporters) but thank you nonetheless.

As for David Elliot aka ZD, I am not even going to deny your charges of posting on here anonymously since that doesn't seem to get through to you.

I will say this, YOU ARE DISRUPTIVE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, now sue me.

When I spoke to Mike Higby about you along time ago, he expressed his desire to simply drive more hits to the website. Mistaking quantity for quality he has allowed your dribble for far too long. I empathize with the City Council members who are forced to listen to your self promoting ramblings about this radio show or that website. It is not a far stretch to assume that someone who may be inclined to show up at a City Council meeting might see the likes of you and few others and feel safer locked on the wrong side of an insane asylums wall and thus stay home, and that is sad.

More than anything Dave, I actually pity you. How sad it must be to stroll through life with no real purpose, desperately searching for validation anyplace you can get it. You are very much like the child who acts out, accepting his parent’s anger over no attention at all. I assume you will view this post as an attack, it isn't. It is merely an observation. To attack you, or attempt to belittle you makes the false assumption that you had some sort of stature from which to fall from initially. Alas, you do not.

If you wish to attack me as you have threatened to, knock yourself out my friend. I have taken on much larger fish than anything your hand-held net could muster. My mistake in this entire escapade was to give you the common decency of a response. In doing so, I have risen yourself, and lowered myself to a place neither one of us truly belongs. Should you wish to debate me as you so claim, simply file papers and run against me. At such a time, assuming you could even qualify for a ballot, debates are scheduled and moderated. Perhaps you'll get luck and catch me on a bad day although considering I make a pretty good living working in politics, my guess is even on your best and my worst day you wouldn't make it past introducing yourself.

Now, you can make all the accusations you want son, but the reality is that my career far from ended... I merely arrived at a much larger pond. A pond that takes me to Washington, Sacramento and home, thus taking up a good deal of my time. I simply don't have the time to play in your little sandbox quite so often. It is entertaining though. I understand that criticism is the highest form of flattery. It is ok that you want to be like me one day, and maybe one day you can. Until then, keep doing your thing Dave.

See ya on the other side.

August 18, 2007 8:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

joe...

sorry your thread got all clogged up with all this talk...but I'm pretty sure, at least I hope, that everyone who posted a comment here, read your entire thread first. And that's what matters most.

how about if everyone moves any conversation regarding this other stuff over to the other thread.

August 18, 2007 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

remember when jim alger was fighting with stuart waldman on mayor sam? now he's fighting with a homeless guy begging his friends to help and threatening to sue zuma dogg or mayor sam?

August 18, 2007 8:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

jim alger has a job? ha ha ha

August 18, 2007 8:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh god jesus jim that was funny! I am crying here. ZD, sorry bro, you just got SERVED!

August 18, 2007 8:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

jim alger didn't do shit in sunland nor did he do shit in northridge that was jan man he takes credit for everything

August 18, 2007 8:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I See ZD is now posting anonymously.

Jim never threatened to sue anyone, ZD did... try READING the post dumbass. I also dont recall a fight wit Waldman although Waldman would have deserved it as he was talking shit.

August 18, 2007 8:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

mayor sam endorsed jim alger and make himself a laughing stock

alger didn't even beat a candidate who didn't campaign

August 18, 2007 8:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

jim and zuma are posting anon
SAD SAD SAD

August 18, 2007 8:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey ZD... Here is Alger "not doing anythin with Northridge"

http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2006/01/alger-defeats-wal-mart_16.html

and here is him "not doing anything with Home Depot"

http://jimalger.net/gallery1/070305event001a.html

DUMBASS

August 18, 2007 8:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD didn't post that comment. I DID.

August 18, 2007 8:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, I'm not Jim, but he is a friend of mine and I figured this jackass would pull this posting anonymous crap tonight so I am here with not much else to do.

August 18, 2007 8:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Use your real names to back up the shit you talk about Zuma. What are you spineless ninnies afraid of?

August 18, 2007 8:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD you aren't worth our time. That's why we post shit all day about you anonymously!

August 18, 2007 8:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim uses his name, I use mine, not much to fear with Zuma... notice the sudden attacks on alger again are anonymous.

August 18, 2007 8:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

damn Dogg... Jim done filet'd your ass

August 18, 2007 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:24pm, she works for Countrywide Home Loans... that is some big deal? Certainly isn't a secret, he disclosed it on his filings.

August 18, 2007 8:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any claim that Jm was convicted of any crime in Florida is FALSE and was proven false the last time you said it.

Put your real name behind that claim and you will end up in court.

August 18, 2007 8:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Alger doesn't believe companies that do 9 million in business, but have 13 employees should be required to give a pregnant woman paid medical leave according to CWA questionnaire on his website.

This is clearly a profits over people position.
Posted by: Democrat Alert at May 18, 2006 09:16 PM

August 18, 2007 8:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey MS!

I wondered how the hell a Mailander post could have over a 100 comments and checked it out.

Looks like Jim Alger cuts and pastes better than anyone in CD14 huh!

Toodles!

August 18, 2007 8:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yea, so? I don't think they should either. That is only an attack (and probably a false one) to the Hilfenhaus. Nice to see Stewart and company jumping into the fray.

Good evening.

August 18, 2007 8:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is just the defeated crybaby loser Zuma Dogg trying to bury the fact he got his ass kicked today. So now he is going to spend all night attacking Jim.

What a complete schmuck.

August 18, 2007 8:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam:

Do you realize that there are over 100 posts here between two childlike adults who are simply calling each other names? If you banned them both, the quality of the blog would rise dramatically, although the hits would go done. On his own ZD couldn't have generated this many extra postings.

I'm sure you'll agree that for a guy who wanted to be a state legislator, and who still wants to be elected to something because real work sucks, it's not impressive to see him and his friends spending all this time arguing with the likes of Zuma Dogg. If my legislator did that, I'd start a recall. Doesn't Jim have more important things to do to prove that he is worthy of being elected to anything? Maybe you can talk to him.

August 18, 2007 9:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/vcs/dennert/archives/2006/05/cameron_smyth_t.html

August 18, 2007 9:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I find it amazing that you a) know Jim is posting anything as I have only seen 2 posts all day from him and b) how all of a sudden, after ZD launches this attack on him and goes at it most of the day that now all of a sudden you are offended.

ZD is a moderator of this blog and started a war that as best as I could tell Alger finished back at 8 something. Apparently ZD didn't like that because now all of a sudden there is a rash of "i hate Jim" posts, 180 degree change from the all-day trend.

So take your shock and dismay elsewhere. Someone gets attacked, they and their supporters will respond. Before today, Alger had been here maybe 5 or 6 times in the past month.

Much of what you are seeing today is a group of people just fed up with Zuma Doggs crap.

August 18, 2007 9:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD is harmless and the CMs know his thing is an act. He isn't even homeless, the guy does live in Malibu and works for a lobbying firm in LA. Check out the filings.

Conversely Alger is dangerous. He's leading the great unwashed to certain ruin and our electeds have no power to stop it.

August 18, 2007 9:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I got this email:

CHECK IT OUT! Twin douchebags Zuma Dogg and Jim Alger are battling it on Mayor Sam. Jim's rounded up fat white people from Sunland Tujunga and Zuma Dick has the homeless coalition blogging away.

August 18, 2007 9:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

910 You are so full of shit. Now go finish your pizza and get home before curfew.

August 18, 2007 9:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That is rich... ZD, the guy who begs for money on Mayor Sam works for a lobbying firm. HAHAHAHAHAHA

August 18, 2007 9:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Usually politicians wait until after they are elected to not follow through on promises, but with a few weeks to go before the primary Citizen Alger still has not unveiled a traffic plan he promised months ago.

Here are his words from his campaign website.

"Transportation/Traffic - Whether you live or work in Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Newhall or the San Fernando Valley, traffic is a major concern. In the upcoming months, I will be unveiling a comprehensive plan to ease congestion on our roads and make public transportation more convenient."

Months ago this was promised. Where is it? Are democrats not important enough to receive your plan?

What part of "comprehensive" did we miss?

August 18, 2007 9:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what has zuma dogg or jim alger said that is libelous? seems to me they are just arguing about the size of their penises?

August 18, 2007 9:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What are you ranting about? your cutting and pasting recycled attacks from 2 years ago???

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS????

even I never cut and pasted that bad!

August 18, 2007 9:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MAYOR SAM PLEASE!

Your regular readers want you to remove Zuma Dogg and Jim Alger. Please!

August 18, 2007 9:22 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

I did not post any anonymous comments this evening, or any other day or evening.

August 18, 2007 9:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:20 first of all the argument isn't really an argument. ZD is posting anonymously and an apparent Alger supporter is swinging at every pitch, although not sure it is worth it as these are some pansy ass pitches.

August 18, 2007 9:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just got a recorded plug for Jim Alger on my CELL PHONE!!!

It might not be illegal, but it certainly stinks.

I will vote against him any chance I get.

August 18, 2007 9:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:22... what has Jim done??? Why do you throw him in with the Mutt who mounted the attack in the first place, threatened Jim all day and got smacked down like the pussy he is???

August 18, 2007 9:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

i doubt mailander or higby are reading any of this. both of them are probably out with their friends. or is higby still out of town?

August 18, 2007 9:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, jerkoff @ 9:26. Jim started the fight months ago. Zuma finally decided to fight back and I don't blame him.

August 18, 2007 9:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD EVERYONE knows you post anonymously. You try to feign interest in your bullshit so quit acting all innocent.

This whole fiasco is your fault for attacking Jim in the first place. Did you really think he'd let you get away with it? Now go lick your wounds and think up someone new to attack... WAIT, that's it! THAAAAAAATS why you went after Jim, City Council is out of session and you needed someone to attack!!!!!

God, you're worse than I thought!

August 18, 2007 9:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby met a sweet Latina in CD14 and he's never coming back. This is now the ZD/Alger Death Match blog.

August 18, 2007 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alger and Zuma AKA

Tweedledum and Tweedledummer

August 18, 2007 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

papajohn (aka zuma dogg) show me how he started it... prove it!

This jackass came out and railed against Jim out of nowhere and got smacked down like the bitch he is.

August 18, 2007 9:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm truly embarassed for Alger. If he wants to be a city councilman or whatever, he should start acting like one. For reasons that only he knows, he can't rise above this inane fighting with ZD. So what if, as Alger or his friends have suggested, debates ZD? Is he going to show the debate on his website so all the voters will be impressed? It's like beating up a 5th grader and taking his lunch money to show us how tough he is.

August 18, 2007 9:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't understand. Why does Jim care what Zuma says and why is he asking people to defend him?

August 18, 2007 9:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey morons, Jim is at a PUBLIC HEALTHCARE EVENT IN VENTURA! His schedule is public for Christ sake. He certainly isn't blogging from there!

August 18, 2007 9:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said:

Why would Steward Waldman care about Jim Alger?
February 15, 2006 1:58 PM

Anonymous said:

Good question but he has been shopping some bad stories around about him for a week now.
February 15, 2006 2:12 PM

Anonymous said:

Really? What bad stories? Who did he tell? Is Mayor Sam holding on to some info? How do you know?
February 15, 2006 2:42 PM

Anonymous said:

We know and that is all that matters.
February 15, 2006 2:54 PM

August 18, 2007 9:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim is at a health care event AFTER 815 pm on a Saturday night (he last posted then)

Good try Jim.

August 18, 2007 9:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim cares because he's here every damn day bashing ZD anonymously. You'd care too if you had this much invested.

August 18, 2007 9:38 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Whoever is saying..."ZD EVERYONE knows you post anonymously. You try to feign interest in your bullshit so quit acting all innocent."

I WANT EVERYONE READING THIS TO KNOW...IF ANYONE ONE READING THIS WOULD LIKE ME TO SUBMIT TO A POLYGRAPH TEST...SIMPLY SEND ME AN EMAIL AS TO WHERE AN WHEN TO SHOW UP AND YOU CAN ASK ME IF I POSTED ANYTHING ANONYMOUSLY.

I AM HERE TO SAY THAT ANYONE WHO SAYS I POST ANONYMOUSLY HERE (besided the occasional "milton erickson that is pretty obvious is me...and that is not "anonymous" as refered to. so, if anyone is saying i posted under anything other than "zuma dogg" or moderator dogg, they are lying and that is not the case and i will submit to any and every polygraph challenge.

August 18, 2007 9:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Polygraphs don't work on insane people...

and the Healthcare event is on his schedule as a party until 2am

August 18, 2007 9:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam,

Please stop with all the posts about Jim Alger. Seriously, who cares? This blog is great because it covers the nitty gritty of LA City Hall, not because of some assclown running for an Assembly seat. Start a new blog for Alger or put the content on MS2. It's enough already.

August 18, 2007 9:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD what is apparent is after Jim dismissed your dumbass at 815, all of a sudden there is a valiant attempt to discredit him that hasn't been here all day.

His schedule is public so we can see where he is, and your the only one (well maybe there are a few others) but you have the most invested in trying to undermine him so you are the prime candidate. besides, I have a broken leg and can't get out. How many people could possibly be here on a Saturday night?

August 18, 2007 9:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who has a longer criminal record Jim or Zuma?

August 18, 2007 9:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wow, 143 comments and counting: zuma is convinced jim posts all the stuff about zuma himself, that there are just the two of them on this or any thread where zuma is criticized, so jim must have been pretty busy.

August 18, 2007 9:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:43 we arent blogging about Alger, some insane moron insists on trying to attack him and I am bored off my stones with nothing better to do. I don't even know the guy.

August 18, 2007 9:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim is not at a party. He is at home.

August 18, 2007 9:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Jim still a Senator?

August 18, 2007 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma dogg can fuck himself. He is gay right?

August 18, 2007 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK guys, seriously, enough already. Zuma, put the keyboard down dude. And the Alger supporter, or guy claiming to be the Alger supporter, just let ZD get the last word ok?

We all get it, Jim is Satin, the Devil. He has a criminal record for raping puppies. He is the worst thing that ever happened to mannkind we get it... YOU HATE HIM OK! WE FUCKING GET IT!

August 18, 2007 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Things that suck in LA
To many MExicans
Home Depot
Republicans
Zuma Dogg attacking our Jim

August 18, 2007 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. Zuma Dogg you are a dog you are not a nice person! What would your mother say about you?

Jim has helped our community especially to keep Home Depot and their illegals out. He knows what we want and we appreciate him.

We will vote for him.

August 18, 2007 9:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:52, no his term expired on the LANCC may or June I think.

August 18, 2007 9:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Alger would have been elected to the assembly had Stewart Waldman not run a campaign of personal destruction.

August 18, 2007 10:00 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

someone said..."but you have the most invested in trying to undermine him so you are the prime candidate."

[??? You have made that determination , have you? You can also add to the list of questions I am willing to take under a polygraph, "Zuma, has the thought ever crossed your mind that you want to undermine the person who you refer to?" And add, "Zuma...do you feel competitive with any other activist in the city?"]

PLUS, pehaps mayor sam can check ip addresses...it is so sad...someone thinks i am posting anonymously here...so they must really feel defeated.

August 18, 2007 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Go to hell Zuma with your lies about Jim!

August 18, 2007 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What did Zuma Dogg actually say that has Jim so upset?

August 18, 2007 10:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't think he actually is upset. best as I can tell he isn't even here. Just some instigators and ZD

August 18, 2007 10:10 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

10:02pm,

What lies about Jim? I said that it is my belief that he has posted more anonymous comments about me than grains of sand in an hour-glass. But that's all i have ever claimed. and i said it's my opinion. and i stick to it. that's the extent of it. and i have felt this way for a year and when he posted under his own name yesterday, and some of the wording was a little too similar, I decided to smoke him out, which i did...and would also like to add that i feel jim posted most of these back and forth comments. just my opinion.

August 18, 2007 10:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh crap this is old!

August 18, 2007 10:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Alger has a hard on for Zuma Dogg for some reason. His goal is to take him out from Mayor Sam as he said himself he begged Higby for months to do it. I think though that Alger's actions make it harder for Higby to get rid of Zuma because if he did can Zuma then all of Alger's opponents would give Higby a boatload of shit.

August 18, 2007 10:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

keep lying about Jim Zuma and I will hack the blog.

August 18, 2007 10:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good. Alger and Zuma have gone to bed.

August 18, 2007 10:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The point is not whether or not Jim is a nice guy, what he did on some NC or what his wife does for a living or whether or not he thinks small co's should be required to give paid maternity lease (no way, by the way), or even whether or not he is qualified to serve on the Assembly.

(He sure could help by going against the Republican idiots including Tom McClintock from L A-adjacent Thousand Oaks, who admit in today's LAT that they won't give us the 150 million we need and are owed for green light synchronization because they'd rather give it to "anyone but L A or San Fran." That's outrageous, when we have the worst traffic in the whole country, and they want to deny us out of political spite, and give it to some manure-infested rural hole instead.

Jim, if you want to make traffic a priority of your administration, you can start by bringing heat on these 13 holdout idiots. Seems that once elected, Dem's like Nunez can't rock the boat too loudy out of fear or retribution. So do it NOW and get the votes!

By the way, not passing a budget to spite the Dems is also causing Cal to get our credit rating lowered, when we're already second-lowest in the country, and the VERY LAST STATE not to have passed a budget yet. Meanwhile, the Assembly members are on vacation.)

But back to the idiot Dogg, who distracts Jim and the rest of us from discussing such issues by attacking him.

The point isn't the merits of Jim, whether he's "not worthy" or Mother Theresa, it is just twisted to post a whole thread based NOT on any issue you disagree with him about but, as you recap yourself at 10:12 just to launch a gratuitous attack on him as being the person you bizarrely suspect to have been posting anon against you in hundreds of posts, so you want to call him out.

Call him out on your unfounded suspicion, which you admit is all it is. And call him all kinds of names in the process, and in your posts on this attack thread.

People, stop equating Jim with Zuma or minimizing what Zuma is doing.

I swear I have never met Jim, but if it were me in his place, I'd be emailing Sam and demanding a public apology and banning dogg from the blog.

August 18, 2007 10:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yea ZD... you "smoked him out". At which point he promptly administered the ass whooping you have so desperately deserved! LMAO

And sure, if it makes you feel better I am Jim. Everyone who ever criticizes you is Jim. WOW are you a tortured soul.

August 18, 2007 10:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Little bastards used my wireless internet all night and didn't even leave a good tip.

August 18, 2007 10:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DOGG... are you fucking kidding me??? This entire shitscapade has been because you SUSPECT Jim Alger of posting anonymously on this blog about you??? You can not be for real!

Why in gods name does Mayor Sam let you get away with this shit? This is NOT the forum to "smoke someone out" like a schoolyard bully. You use a blog to debate POLICY not mount a personal offensive against someone you THINK may have done something you can't back up.

Over the top Dogg, over the top.

August 18, 2007 11:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dogg is not the bully.

August 18, 2007 11:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wow! mayor sam, you're advertisers sure got lucky today...it appears like a record amount of people are on the blog today! look at all the numerous people posting here. a massive wave of people who have flocked to this comment section tonight. I wish topics like eminent domain and lausd immediately brought this many scores of people out of the wood work to comment.

August 18, 2007 11:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1037 is Jim, same misspellings

August 18, 2007 11:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't care if Zuma is gay!

August 18, 2007 11:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Keep in mind that on 8/15 just a few days ago, when fool zuma posted a thread with the boast, "Zuma Dogg and Matt Cover Home Depot at City Hall," virtually every single one of the reader posts was to make fun of him/ them. Take a peek...

Then just before that, Zuma rant a rant on how it was one of his colleagues who has been posting anon. against him, which he's pretty sure of because the person was removing some of zuma's boastful stupidities and replacing them with new posts at 3 a.m, at a time when he couldn't immediately respond. Check it all out, Jim.

This entire thread attacking Jim as the anon. poster is even more weird and bizarre given THAT accusation.

Can't blame the "fellow blogger" if it's true. Apparently, zuma won't go away even when asked by the site owner. Sam, hello? Wha d'ya say?

August 19, 2007 12:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LOL Do-it "scandal" that never was??? That is hysterical.

August 19, 2007 12:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Methinks old ZD fergots his medications today.

August 19, 2007 12:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It was just this past Sunday, 8/12, under his own thread "Media Alert," trying to engage people for the nth time about alleged scandal with non- profits downtown, and getting no takers except the usual disgusted comments about himself, Zuma launches into allegations (10:44 p.m.) against one of his fellow bloggers who is posting anon against him and -- get this -- is not even arguing the issues (because no sane person would bother), but making personal attacks against his persona, lack of intelligence and such.

He says fellow blogger is engaging in "liebel" which must be some pseudo-German/ Yiddish word for libel.

PHEW, how would zuma spell the word "hyprocrite," if he could understand it?

Maybe someone wants to paste that post here, I don't have time now.

August 19, 2007 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:24am,

...but i don't have time now. (LOL!) And by the way...what are you talking about??? Is your entire life's work spent toward the goal of proving that the whole world wants me removed from the blog? If you somehow prove whatever point it is you are trying to prove that you don't have time for (but expect someone to figure out and track down whatever it is you are talking about) -- then what? so what? do that mean prop r was not intentionally deceiving...does that mean we don't have the infrastructure problems i am concerned about? does that mean the city was not in violation of vacancy rates and tenants rights? the non-profit scam...no problem, huh? OK! Look at all the effort you have spent over the past year claiming i am ruining the blog and how everyone wants me removed from the blog...meanwhile, if one person would simply go away...the rest of the anti-zd/zd-opposition would be proportonate and reasonable.

I think one person on this blog is kind of emotionally inferior to the rest of us. (See Deming/bad competiton.)

August 19, 2007 1:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD, you really are a nitwit. You have been acccusing "one person" of posting negetive comments about you.
According to you, you are the central figure in this "one persons" life. Not his wife, two sons, job, family... no, none of that, just you. Do you have any idea how insane you sound?

It never occurred to you that MANY of us have gotten sooooooooooo tired of you going on about how good you are that we just, every once in a while, let it slip out?

I do believe that Higby should take away your posting privileges. You started an entire thread to attack someone you have a personal beef with, whether it be real or imagined and from what I can tell, it is the latter.

August 19, 2007 1:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg is lower than whaleshit.

I don't know Jim Alger, but I have become a fan just reading all these posts.

I do know Zuma Dogg, aka Dave Elliott to be an utter fool who knows close to nothing about LA City politics. He is a star fucker and an attention whore who makes things unpleasant for multitudes of us who need to transact legitimate business with the Council and others.

He has literally wasted hours of my time in two minute plus rants.

In addition, I have had to go outside for air a couple of times his body odor is so intense and offensive. It far exceeeds his visual appearance in just abject offensiveness.

Alger is not always right; in fact, he is often wrong. But he is sincere and logical and able to deliver a cogent message to which people will listen. ZD, on the other hand, could be reciting a new way to actually cure cancer and no one would hear it because of his delivery and appearnce.

I hope Higby reads every post here and finally exterminates the vermnin ZD from this blog. It was so much more interesting before.

I long for the good old days of Mayor Sam, ante ZD.

P.S. I am through posting on ZD's threads, joining Phil Krakover, Jack Hoff and I hope enough others to leave him talking to his sweetie Matt Dowd only.

August 19, 2007 2:06 AM  

Blogger Unknown said:

I'm gonna chalk this one up for Zuma Dogg.

On the surface, Alger got the better of him. But his political smarm is leaking through at the armpits. He takes this holier-than-thou stance and sounds like a wimpy Prince Von Anhalt.

Zuma certainly appears to be under the influence of several narcotics and intoxicants. But he has clawed his way like a wet cat to the forefront of your mind.

YES! ZD gets on your last nerve. But when you have no nerves left, you are hooked. I would say that the traffic here tonight has been very good. Though, thats not all a site admin wants, just like a television broadcaster, he's not going to complain when eyes are on the product.

Alger is a sophmoric, wussified, local gadfly. He has a solid track record and carries some clout to the table because of his name recognition. But in this day wherein one can write their own ticket at will, his presentation leaves a lot to be desired.

I would rather watch a crackhead dance on Venice boardwalk spouting rapidfire ideas than listen to a grey flannel viagra salesman tell you how big his member is.

Capisce? Capezio? Bueller? Bueller?

August 19, 2007 2:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good grief, even you can't be THAT dense. You HAVE to be playing dumber than you are.

Point is, on 8/12 last Sunday at that time, you denounced in your hysterical way a fellow blogger for posting hundreds of anon's against you. Just as you are doing with Jim. You accused said fellow blogger of posting new threads in the middle of the night when you're finally asleep. (so what? but you got hysterical about that, too.)c

You gratuitously accused said blogger of "liebel"/libel as you do anyone who calls you out.

Which one of them is the sole person who doesn't like you, then? The fellow blogger or Jim, or will there be a new one in a few days?

You were indignant that said blogger is ALLEGEDLY attacking you for personal failings in yourself, not over issues. LIKE YOU ARE DOING WITH JIM AND YOU ADMIT IT HERE AGAIN AT 10:12 for those who can't plow through the earlier crap.

It's one thing to accuse a nameless fellow blogger, although there aren't many to choose from.

It's another thing to do it AGAIN to a real person. EARTH TO ZUMA!

Do you see a pattern here in yourself? That you are paranoid and make wild accusations that are way beyond the pale in ANY blog?

Because many, many people tell you what they think of you, your vanity tells you it's ONE person and you pick a new victim every week. You had no right to drag a man's name into the mud for this non-reason.

He was just trying to clear his name, but didn't know just how off balance the person he was dealing with is. Everyone does now.

No one is obsessed with you or cares about you or your nutty rants. THAT is the point that you can't stand so you demand attention by attacking someone.

August 19, 2007 2:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:13 = CD14 Red Dog Spot, fellow blogger.

Can tell by his unique style AND his admission that site administrators would rather have a lunatic who draws hits even to tell him to f'k off and leave decent people alone and to their ideas and issues, than a "wussified" guy like Alger who makes sense.

THAT was their logic for choosing Zuma over Alger -- hence, turning this blog into virtual toilet tissue. But there is clearly ONE blogger, the one zumma accused last Sunday 8/12 at 10:44 p.m., of being the "one" person who doesn't like him.

Who's that sane blogger? Mailander or Sam? Will they have the guts to reclaim their blog, or be whores to numbers (which will die soon as this thread does, in a boycott like against H D)?

Well, Mailander and Sam?

August 19, 2007 2:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How juvenile and embarrassing all these crap for against Zuma and Alger!!!! C'mon people you're suppose to behave like mature adults. I thought I was reading something from council members who behave like little school children.

Read this stories then e-mail them to friends and tell them to fight against another tax hike for gang bangers who abuse the money. 4 have been arrested this year for felonies. Janice Hahn is an embezzle moron who wants to waste millions on programs she has no clue are working. Typical blonde bimbo.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bridges6mar06,1,4205851.story?coll=la-headlines-california

http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/broken-bridges/15210/

August 19, 2007 7:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone told me Algar named both of his kids Jim kind of like George Foremann?

August 19, 2007 8:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim must not have been at that health care event in Ventura too long since he was officially blogging here at 815 and he was back home in time to set up a "No Wal-Mart in Ventura" blog around 11. Consider travel time he could have only been there half an hour or so at an event he said he was going to at all night.

LIAR

http://www.jimalger.net/UFCW/walmartblog.html

August 19, 2007 9:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Jim Alger's fight against Home Depot more about money than "community rights"?

Is Jim Alger being paid by the unions?

Is Jim's next fight as a shill for the United Food and Commercial Workers?

Check it out
http://www.jimalger.net/UFCW/

August 19, 2007 9:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Time out!

Jim, Zuma, and Dave, I want you to report to the boys vice principal's office right now. You're disrupting class.

August 19, 2007 10:41 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

someone said..."THAT was their logic for choosing Zuma over Alger."

Mayor sam didn't CHOOSE ZD over Alger??? What are you talking about??? We were both contributors at the same time. For whatever reason Jim isn't blogging here anymore has nothing to do with a "zero sum gain" of sam having to "choose" over anyone.

And all the overnight comments and early morning comments...MAN...DON'T YOU SEE THE PATTERNS...Hilarious! Some of the wording is the same stuff as always --- same stuff someone sent to City watch....there must be HUGE overnight readership among people who feel ZD is the problem. INTERESTING!

August 19, 2007 11:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma!

The vice principal is waiting! Detention will be next and then you will be expelled.

August 19, 2007 11:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"your entire life's work spent toward the goal of proving that the whole world wants me removed from the blog"

Entire life's work? You could only wish anyone gave THAT much of a crap.

August 19, 2007 1:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's all join Krakover, Joeaa, and the rest into boycotting this site. Any site that lets someone post a thread to air his paranoia against another person is not worth reading.

August 19, 2007 2:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe, LAT finally got its review of Patti in today's paper -- did you know she's 60 years old? Awesome powerful voice, still sounds the same even if she never did look too good up close. But great on the stage.

Wow, two threads of people defending Jim from zuma's gratuitous attack. People who don't even know Jim, but know an underhanded hit when they see one. What would Patti think about that?

August 19, 2007 6:33 PM  

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