Zuma Dogg FRIDAY Update
MEANWHILE, ZD has had enough of Jim Alger's commentary on my efforts and his speaking out on behalf of all people regarding my participation in the community.
CLICK READ MORE FOR A FEW MORE WORDS FROM ZUMA DOGG ABOUT MR. JIM ALGER (and anonymous posters of similar comments). HE (they) CAN SAY WHAT HE WANTS ABOUT ME, AND I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT ABOUT HIM. AND I THINK HE HAS BEEN DOING A WHOLE LOT OF ANONYMOUS POSTING ON THIS BLOG ABOUT ME. BUT THIS IS BASED ON COMMENTS HE BLOGGED UNDER HIS NAME:
Jim Alger said..."Seriously, noone cared that you raced down t City Hall to try and be on TV. I keep trying to tell you, this isn't a game. These are real peoples lives. It isn't about how insulting you fools can be to an elected official. Some of us have been busting our butts for years to make sure the Foothill Corridor Specific Plan was followed, and Joe and the rest of the NHDC deserve a big pat on the back. This blog repeatedly belittled them."
ZD says...I never belittled anyone, Jim, did I? Please post it. AND, YOU have decided what qualifies being a "game". I guess my efforts are a "game", because you have made that decision for on the world's behalf, Dictator Alger, is that right? These are real people's lives; and you have decided that I am interfering with that?
Alger continues, "Not many took the time to get into the actual issue, including you." [HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME ANYONE ELSE TOOK TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL ISSUE? ARE YOU THE ONLY ONE WHO IS ABLE TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL ISSUE JIM? WHERE IS MY POSTING ON THIS ISSUE TAKING A STAND?]
Then Alger, the former NC Congressman (recently disqualified from running for NC, hence ending his political career) has the audcity to add, "So don't you dare grandstand with your bs now that the community won. [DON'T I DARE, WHAT JIM? YOU ARE And you have decided that's what it is, and how dare I? WHO MADE YOU CITY DECIDER? HEY ALGER...WHY DON'T YOU JUST START BEING THE LEADER YOU ARE TRYING TO ELLUDE TO BE...YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN CITIZEN OF THE YEAR AWARD THIS YEAR IF YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME CRITICIZING ME. AND HOW DARE YOU DO THAT! I have not seen you one time in council chambers when I was there, so HOW DARE USE WORDS LIKE "NOONE cares..." (MANY PEOPLE CARED THAT I WAS THERE AND TOLD ME SO. SOME OF THEM WHO I HELPED FIND THE MEETING, FILL OUT CARDS, ONE PERSON WHO DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK was very upset, and I brought her over to the Councilmember and he spent time with her and she was very pleased that he took the time. (Whether it was a BS job or not, the lady felt like she was listened to. And it appeared to be a sincere effort on the CM's part who spent more than a fair amount of time.)
Someone called me on the phone while I was in chambers at the meeting today, with a concern over the spending of NC money for a non-profit event that was already getting city money. While another similar event was denied by the Councilmember. I walked over to the CM, with the person on my cell phone, and we had a three way conversation right there; with the CM, ZD and community member who couldn't make it down, who was calling to alert me.
CITY CONTROLLER LAURA CHICK made a rare appearance in council chambers. And ZD waited until she was done doing her business, and was fortunate enough to spend a moment speaking with her. Jim, maybe you should have made the decision for her that her time wasn't worth it, even though she felt it was, because she spent the time, and was pleasant and all smiles for ZD!
ADD UP EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, TODAY ALONE, AND I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ANY BETTER EXAMPLE OF THE TRUE SPIRIT OF THESE MEETINGS. (And that's only because of the City's extra level of involvement this week. So thank them!)
SO F*CK YOU AND YOUR OPINION JIM ALGER. STOP WASTING YOUR TIME TALKING ABOUT ZUMA DOGG, AND WORRYING ABOUT THE TIME ZUMA DOGG TAKES UP, AND HOW "NOONE" CARES; AND PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP FOR COMMENT ANYMORE; OR NOW TOO MANY OTHERS SHOW UP FOR COMMENT NOW, OR WHATEVER.
Yes, this was a triumphant week for Zuma Dogg at City Hall, because you had a lot of buisness squeezed into Wednesday's and Fridays's meetings as they prepared for a two-week break. And some pretty big issues that packed the chambers with people from throughout the City on both sides of the issues.
And it was especially bad timing since the agenda was so full at the same time. And ZD recognized on-the-record for City TV 35 viewers, I felt the City bent over backwards to accomodate the crowd and it was the best week of democracy in action in the year and four months I have been attending the meetings. (Because the system is tested under the most stressed out/maxed-out circumstances. And I DO think there has been a lot of progress in the City's operating of the meetings since this time last year. That doesn't mean the corrupt fraud, waste and abuse isn't at maximum levels of achievement. But at least they cut out a lot of the extra level of bullsh*t, in the running of the meetings.
Zuma Dogg feels, Council meetings should be run by the city clerk's office, not a councilmember. Think about it? You have a person running the meeting, that has a stake/involvement in the outcome of the process and vote. That presents opportunity for some of the conflicts ZD has been complaining about over the past year. (And there IS improvement, but there is still too much influence by people who are involved in the outcome. That's why a more neutral party, like the City Clerk's office should run the meeting, with all fifteen CMs in the horseshoe. (In a perfect world, can anyone disagree? If so, I'd like to hear why.)
SO JIM ALGER: UNTIL YOU COME DOWN TO CITY HALL FOR A COUNCIL MEETING ONE DAY YOURSELF AND WITNESS A DAY IN THE LIFE OF ZUMA DOGG AT CITY HALL, SHUT THE FUCK UP! People were coming up to me handing me papers and asking for my help before I made it through the check-in at the lobby. I hooked up one constiuent with her Councilmember after she was furious for being denied public comment. When someone called me on my cell phone, I waved over a CM, who discussed the matter in a three way (back and forth) then spent a good amount of follow up with me on the issue.
Another CM deputy provided me with the breakdown on Prop 1C Bond money item that I was able to share with the people. And they should know what's happening...they voted for it.
Thanks to the expert from the Planning Department, there to testify before council, who gave ZD some information regarding the new zoning changes they are planning for downtown, clarifying some misperceptions printed in the local newspapers regarding the 250 sq ft condos that people fear will overtake downtown housing.
I DID PLENTY JIM. I HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS WEEK WITH THE LITTLE DETAILS PEOPLE HAVE AS FIRST TIMERS TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. AND ON THE MOST CROWDED DAYS, IT HELPS KEEP A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO BOTHER THE POLICE AND OTHER PAID CITY STAFFERS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE CITY STAFFERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROPE SAID, "YOU'RE A GREAT AMBASSADOR, ZD." That's right Jim Aloser! You can spin your jealous bullsh*t lies on this blog all you want. But I will be sure to set your ass straight you little crybaby! Take all the time you spend commenting on me, and just start taking on issues and doing what you used to do. You don't accomplish a thing when you comment on my. It's over bro. The City is in a good place with the people over the running of the meeting. On the busiest week, ZD was happiest with the process and I attended all three meetings. If they start getting five minutes longer because of you, Jim...I won't stop going, no one will complain either. And a lot of people will say, "Man, I'm glad Jim is there saying this stuff." Or start commenting on this blog on issues besides how ZD is the end of the democratic process. After attending three consecutive meetings with the biggest crowds of the year; I WON'T TAKE THAT SHIT FROM YOU. EITHER TALK COMMENT ON ISSUES, SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS YOURSELF AND WITNESS MY PARTICIPATION BEFORE YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL PEOPLE WITH WORDS LIKE, "NOONE"; OR SHUT THE FUCK UP! AND FOR THE RECORD...YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TRYING TO TELL ME ANYTHING. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE AFTER THAT DO-IT-CENTER MONEY KICKBACK SCHEME THAT HAD EVEN YOU CLOSE SUPPORTERS CRITICIZING YOU OVER. COMPLETELY IDIOT IF NOT CORRUPT.
zumadogg@gmail.com
CLICK READ MORE FOR A FEW MORE WORDS FROM ZUMA DOGG ABOUT MR. JIM ALGER (and anonymous posters of similar comments). HE (they) CAN SAY WHAT HE WANTS ABOUT ME, AND I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT ABOUT HIM. AND I THINK HE HAS BEEN DOING A WHOLE LOT OF ANONYMOUS POSTING ON THIS BLOG ABOUT ME. BUT THIS IS BASED ON COMMENTS HE BLOGGED UNDER HIS NAME:
Jim Alger said..."Seriously, noone cared that you raced down t City Hall to try and be on TV. I keep trying to tell you, this isn't a game. These are real peoples lives. It isn't about how insulting you fools can be to an elected official. Some of us have been busting our butts for years to make sure the Foothill Corridor Specific Plan was followed, and Joe and the rest of the NHDC deserve a big pat on the back. This blog repeatedly belittled them."
ZD says...I never belittled anyone, Jim, did I? Please post it. AND, YOU have decided what qualifies being a "game". I guess my efforts are a "game", because you have made that decision for on the world's behalf, Dictator Alger, is that right? These are real people's lives; and you have decided that I am interfering with that?
Alger continues, "Not many took the time to get into the actual issue, including you." [HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME ANYONE ELSE TOOK TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL ISSUE? ARE YOU THE ONLY ONE WHO IS ABLE TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL ISSUE JIM? WHERE IS MY POSTING ON THIS ISSUE TAKING A STAND?]
Then Alger, the former NC Congressman (recently disqualified from running for NC, hence ending his political career) has the audcity to add, "So don't you dare grandstand with your bs now that the community won. [DON'T I DARE, WHAT JIM? YOU ARE And you have decided that's what it is, and how dare I? WHO MADE YOU CITY DECIDER? HEY ALGER...WHY DON'T YOU JUST START BEING THE LEADER YOU ARE TRYING TO ELLUDE TO BE...YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN CITIZEN OF THE YEAR AWARD THIS YEAR IF YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME CRITICIZING ME. AND HOW DARE YOU DO THAT! I have not seen you one time in council chambers when I was there, so HOW DARE USE WORDS LIKE "NOONE cares..." (MANY PEOPLE CARED THAT I WAS THERE AND TOLD ME SO. SOME OF THEM WHO I HELPED FIND THE MEETING, FILL OUT CARDS, ONE PERSON WHO DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK was very upset, and I brought her over to the Councilmember and he spent time with her and she was very pleased that he took the time. (Whether it was a BS job or not, the lady felt like she was listened to. And it appeared to be a sincere effort on the CM's part who spent more than a fair amount of time.)
Someone called me on the phone while I was in chambers at the meeting today, with a concern over the spending of NC money for a non-profit event that was already getting city money. While another similar event was denied by the Councilmember. I walked over to the CM, with the person on my cell phone, and we had a three way conversation right there; with the CM, ZD and community member who couldn't make it down, who was calling to alert me.
CITY CONTROLLER LAURA CHICK made a rare appearance in council chambers. And ZD waited until she was done doing her business, and was fortunate enough to spend a moment speaking with her. Jim, maybe you should have made the decision for her that her time wasn't worth it, even though she felt it was, because she spent the time, and was pleasant and all smiles for ZD!
ADD UP EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, TODAY ALONE, AND I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ANY BETTER EXAMPLE OF THE TRUE SPIRIT OF THESE MEETINGS. (And that's only because of the City's extra level of involvement this week. So thank them!)
SO F*CK YOU AND YOUR OPINION JIM ALGER. STOP WASTING YOUR TIME TALKING ABOUT ZUMA DOGG, AND WORRYING ABOUT THE TIME ZUMA DOGG TAKES UP, AND HOW "NOONE" CARES; AND PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP FOR COMMENT ANYMORE; OR NOW TOO MANY OTHERS SHOW UP FOR COMMENT NOW, OR WHATEVER.
Yes, this was a triumphant week for Zuma Dogg at City Hall, because you had a lot of buisness squeezed into Wednesday's and Fridays's meetings as they prepared for a two-week break. And some pretty big issues that packed the chambers with people from throughout the City on both sides of the issues.
And it was especially bad timing since the agenda was so full at the same time. And ZD recognized on-the-record for City TV 35 viewers, I felt the City bent over backwards to accomodate the crowd and it was the best week of democracy in action in the year and four months I have been attending the meetings. (Because the system is tested under the most stressed out/maxed-out circumstances. And I DO think there has been a lot of progress in the City's operating of the meetings since this time last year. That doesn't mean the corrupt fraud, waste and abuse isn't at maximum levels of achievement. But at least they cut out a lot of the extra level of bullsh*t, in the running of the meetings.
Zuma Dogg feels, Council meetings should be run by the city clerk's office, not a councilmember. Think about it? You have a person running the meeting, that has a stake/involvement in the outcome of the process and vote. That presents opportunity for some of the conflicts ZD has been complaining about over the past year. (And there IS improvement, but there is still too much influence by people who are involved in the outcome. That's why a more neutral party, like the City Clerk's office should run the meeting, with all fifteen CMs in the horseshoe. (In a perfect world, can anyone disagree? If so, I'd like to hear why.)
SO JIM ALGER: UNTIL YOU COME DOWN TO CITY HALL FOR A COUNCIL MEETING ONE DAY YOURSELF AND WITNESS A DAY IN THE LIFE OF ZUMA DOGG AT CITY HALL, SHUT THE FUCK UP! People were coming up to me handing me papers and asking for my help before I made it through the check-in at the lobby. I hooked up one constiuent with her Councilmember after she was furious for being denied public comment. When someone called me on my cell phone, I waved over a CM, who discussed the matter in a three way (back and forth) then spent a good amount of follow up with me on the issue.
Another CM deputy provided me with the breakdown on Prop 1C Bond money item that I was able to share with the people. And they should know what's happening...they voted for it.
Thanks to the expert from the Planning Department, there to testify before council, who gave ZD some information regarding the new zoning changes they are planning for downtown, clarifying some misperceptions printed in the local newspapers regarding the 250 sq ft condos that people fear will overtake downtown housing.
I DID PLENTY JIM. I HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS WEEK WITH THE LITTLE DETAILS PEOPLE HAVE AS FIRST TIMERS TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. AND ON THE MOST CROWDED DAYS, IT HELPS KEEP A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO BOTHER THE POLICE AND OTHER PAID CITY STAFFERS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE CITY STAFFERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROPE SAID, "YOU'RE A GREAT AMBASSADOR, ZD." That's right Jim Aloser! You can spin your jealous bullsh*t lies on this blog all you want. But I will be sure to set your ass straight you little crybaby! Take all the time you spend commenting on me, and just start taking on issues and doing what you used to do. You don't accomplish a thing when you comment on my. It's over bro. The City is in a good place with the people over the running of the meeting. On the busiest week, ZD was happiest with the process and I attended all three meetings. If they start getting five minutes longer because of you, Jim...I won't stop going, no one will complain either. And a lot of people will say, "Man, I'm glad Jim is there saying this stuff." Or start commenting on this blog on issues besides how ZD is the end of the democratic process. After attending three consecutive meetings with the biggest crowds of the year; I WON'T TAKE THAT SHIT FROM YOU. EITHER TALK COMMENT ON ISSUES, SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS YOURSELF AND WITNESS MY PARTICIPATION BEFORE YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL PEOPLE WITH WORDS LIKE, "NOONE"; OR SHUT THE FUCK UP! AND FOR THE RECORD...YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TRYING TO TELL ME ANYTHING. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE AFTER THAT DO-IT-CENTER MONEY KICKBACK SCHEME THAT HAD EVEN YOU CLOSE SUPPORTERS CRITICIZING YOU OVER. COMPLETELY IDIOT IF NOT CORRUPT.
zumadogg@gmail.com
Posted by Zuma Dogg @ 8/17/2007 03:58:00 PM
88 Comments:
But how do you really feel about Jim?
ZD has had enough o' Jim Alger'scommentary on muh ma fuckin efforts an' his speaking out on behalf o' all peeps regarding muh ma fuckin participation in da community.
5:25pm,
Had a really nice conversation with Huizar today. I was kinda embarassed cause I blasted him over a special event fee. But when my phone rang, and it was someone calling on a related matter (who didn't know I was at council and had just commented on an issue relating to the call), I walked over to the horseshoe, wave over Weezy, and he came over and we hashed it out with the person on the phone, through ZD's cell. And we continued to discuss the issue and related CD 14 matters. And I felt GREAT about the fact that Huizar was willing to listen to ZD, as I rattled off all the things people complain about to me on the phone, and he gave me some feedback on these issues; and agreed to do some follow-up, and there really wasn't anything much more I could have asked for, at that moment.
So thanks for taking some quality time with ZD for him to express a lot of the stuff he and I both know all too well, seems to fly in relentlessly from people all across CD 14.
MOSCOW (AP) - President Vladimir Putin said Friday that he had ordered the military to resume regular long-range flights of strategic bombers, a show of Russia's resurgent military power which comes amid a chill in relations with the United States.
Speaking after Russian and Chinese forces completed major war games exercises for the first time on Russian turf, Putin said a halt in long-range bombers' flights after the Soviet collapse had affected Russia's security as other nations had continued such missions - an oblique reference to the United States.
"I have made a decision to resume regular flights of Russian strategic aviation," Putin said in televised remarks. "We proceed from the assumption that our partners will view the resumption of flights of Russia's strategic aviation with understanding."
The Russian-Chinese war games, which took place near the Ural Mountain city of Chelyabinsk, coincided with Russian air force maneuvers involving strategic bombers which ranged far over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans.
Putin said that 20 Russian bombers were involved in the exercise.
"Starting today, such tours of duty would be conducted regularly and on the strategic scale," Putin said. "Our pilots have been grounded for too long, they are happy to start a new life."
Soviet bombers routinely flew such missions to areas from which nuclear-tipped cruise missiles could be launched at the United States, but stopped in the post-Soviet economic meltdown.
"Starting in 1992, the Russian Federation unilaterally suspended strategic aviation flights to remote areas," Putin said. "Regrettably, other nations haven't followed our example. That has created certain problems for Russia's security."
Booming oil prices have allowed Russia to sharply increase its military spending.
In recent years, Russia's bombers have resumed flights to areas off Norway and Iceland, as well as Russia's northeast corner, across the Bering Strait from Alaska several years ago. However, such missions have been rare, and Putin's statement signals that they would become more frequent.
The announcement comes amid a growing chill in the U.S.-Russian relations, strained over Washington's criticism of Russia's democracy record, Moscow's strong criticism of U.S. missile defense plans and differences over global crises.
"This is a significant change of posture of Russian strategic forces," Alexander Pikayev, a senior military analyst with the Moscow-based Institute for World Economy and International Relations, told The Associated Press. "It's a response to the relocation of NATO forces closer to Russia's western border."
Earlier this month, a pair of Russian Tu-95 strategic bombers approached the Pacific Island of Guam - home to a major U.S. military base - for the first time since the Cold War.
Last month, two similar bombers briefly entered British air space but turned back after British fighter jets intercepted them. Norwegian F-16s were also scrambled when the Tu-95s headed south along the Norwegian coast in international air space.
Russian Air Force spokesman Col. Alexander Drobyshevsky said that Friday's exercise involved Tu-160, Tu-95 and Tu-22M bombers, tanker aircraft and air radars. NATO jets were scrambled to escort the Russian aircraft over the oceans, he said, according to the ITAR-Tass news agency.
As of the beginning of this year, Russia had 79 strategic bombers, according to data exchanged with the United States under the START I arms control treaty. At the peak of the Cold War, the Soviet long-range bomber fleet numbered several hundred.
Zuma Dogg said...
5:25pm,
Had uh really nice conversation wiff Huizar taday. I wuz kinda embarassed cause I blasted him over uh special event fee. But when muh ma fuckin phone rang, an' it wuz someone calling on uh related matter (who didn't know I wuz at council an' had just commented on an issue relating ta da call), I walked over ta da horseshoe, wave over Weezy, an' he came over an' we's hashed it out wiff da person on da phone, through ZD'scell. And we's continued ta discuss da issue an' related CD 14 matters. And I felt GREAT about da fact dat Huizar wuz willing ta listen ta ZD, as I rattled off all da things peeps complain about ta me on da phone, an' he gave me some feedback on deez issues; an' agreed ta do some follow-up, an' dere really wasn't anythin' much mo' I could gots asked fo', at dat moment.
So thanks fo' taking some quality tyme wiff ZD fo' him ta express uh lot o' da sheeit he an' I both know all too well, seems ta fly in relentlessly from peeps all across CD 14.
Ya' know what I'm sayin'?
ZD has three stated purposes: ta identify an' foster human intelligence fo' da benefit o' humanity; ta encourage research in da nature, characteristics, an' uses o' intelligence; an' ta promote stimulating intellectual an' social opportunities fo' its members. ya'll is mad stupid.
I for one don't particularly care what ZD thinks of me. The truth is he has accused me of all sorts of things for no purpose but to attempt to raise his own political profile. Perhaps if he put as much energy into DOING something rather then acting like a clown in city hall (and ZD, pretending to fall on spilled coffee in city hall and filming yourself doing it is acting like a clown) he might actually do some good.
Fact is, nearly EVERY time I post I put my name on it. You just can't handle the fact that others either agree with me or I with them depending on who posted first. Of course, your paranoid rear end will continue to swing at ghosts, which is your right, but it doesn't make your rants true.
You routinely defame anyone who might, even for a second, take the attention away from yourself. In other cases you attack people, elected and otherwise, solely so that you may be the center of attention. Why don't you just once, work with a team FOR a cause other than your own promotion? I wouldn't even care about that if you actually did some good, but the truth is you are just... in the words of an esteemed councilmember, a clown.
Hey ZD, for someone who "doesn't care what Jim Alger has to say" you sure said allot.
You're still on his fund-raising idea as corrupt??? Schools do that all the time, work out a deal with a local merchant and then ask the public to go there to raise a percentage for the school. It's called FUND RAISING dufus.
Can't handle the fact that Jim helped lead ST to ANOTHER huge victory, as Wal Mart before that and the DWP before that. As for his "political career", considering what he is doing right now, I think Jim is doing all-right.
I am a ZOMBIE!
Yesterday I had to get up at 4:00 am to get ready and take Zuma Dog to Starbucks at 6:00 am! I really wanted to take the entire day off but had some important stuff to take care of so I had arranged for a hit-man to take care of him once I got him home. I am an early riser but I am NOT a functioning human being until at least 8 or 9. Getting up that early and putting on makeup and looking professional was a bitch! The coffee I.V. drip had him doing fine but by the time I got to work around 12:30 I was a complete zombie! The day was slammed with crap and I didn't end up leaving the office until 6:00.
Alger siad..."The truth is he has accused me of all sorts of things for no purpose but to attempt to raise his own political profile." [THE TRUTH IS??? What "all sorts of things have I accused you of. I don't think I have accused you of "all sorts of things", and to say, "truth is...for no purpose bit to..." HOW THE F*CK YOU DO KNOW WHAT IS IN MY MIND YOU DELUSIONAL AND PARANOID PSYCHIC MINDER-WANNABE? Produce the proof or SHUT UP!]
Perhaps if...(pompous Alger authoritative declaration)...he might actually do some good. [OK JIM, you decide the standard and if I "might" actually do some good, are you saying I haven't done good yet, until I do it the way YOU have decided I should? Again...shut your pie hole when it comes to the words "Zuma Dogg".]
Can't handle the fact that Jim helped lead ST to ANOTHER huge victory, as Wal Mart before that and the DWP before that. As for his "political career", considering what he is doing right now, I think Jim is doing all-right. [Bro, why wouldn't I be able to handle someone else's achievement. You are such a lying sack of shit...I WANT EVERYONE READING TO READ THE REST OF THE BITTER LOSERS COMMENTS ABOUT ME AND PAY ATTENTION TO HIS EXHORTATIONS USING WORDS LIKE, "Truth is", "fact is", AND ESPECIALLY WHEN HE TELLS YOU WHY AND HOW I DO THINGS/WHAT IS IN MY MIND, AND HOW HE DECIDES WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG.
WHAT A POMPUS LITTLE DIP SHIT THAT ARROGANT JIM ALGER IS. NO WONDER THE COMMUNITY NO LONGER WANTED HIM TO REPRESENT THEM AS A NC MEMBER.
JIM, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, IS DO WHAT YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY...you seem to think community participation is a zero sum gain, where if I am doing something, that will prevent you from doing something...or if you have a success, for some reason I would feel like that is taking away from what I am doing??? If I am incorrect in my perception, forgive me...but it seems to be an issue with you. JUST DO YOUR DAMN THING AND STOP WASTING YOUR LIFE COMMENTING ON ME. JUST MOVE ON...BLOG ABOUT YOUR ISSUES...JUST IGNORE ME...TRY IT OUT...just pretend like it's life before ZD, blog about your issues...and use the space for that...
Reading about Jim and ZD insulting each other is like listening to a couple of teenagers trying to out insult others after a few cheap beers.
Jim: Everyone knows that you always follow your posts with one or two from Anonymous praising yourself. It's a pattern that is unmistakeable.
ZD: Think of how many more people would listen to what you have to say if you didn't resort to insulting everyone who criticizes you. If someone calls you a name, I don't think that the management experts teach you to try and out insult them.
Really bizarre and paranoid even for ZD to post a whole thread attacking a person who only periodically appears on this blog when ZD blames him for something. ZD, lots and lots of people post stuff about you, why always blame Jim for being that "one person?"
I don't know Jim, and I'm not even sure I'm supportive of his position on the H D thing, because I'm concerned it's a bad precedent for other communities. Even though I read how over-the-top intimidating H D was, almost forcing Council to vote against them to not look "bought." H D acted really dumb.
For anyone to ascribe that they "know" who someone who posts anonymously is, is ridiculous. You don't "know" shit, you just ASSUME it to be true because it fits your particular desire to bash, insult or ridicule someone else.
ZD, you make an ass out of yourself constantly. Jim has posted here maybe 5 times in 5 weeks, yet you accuse him of "spending his life" bashing you. My guess is that you wish he was thinking about you half as often as you seem to feel he is. Your rantings about how great you are is something we have to tolerate every god damned day.
I HAVE seen Jim at nearly every NHDC meeting. When he lobbies city council, he no longer needs to schlep to city hall, he can just pick up the phone.
You feel the need to claim you know the decision making of the folks who did or didn't vote for Jim, and then you bash him for mind reading???
8:43pm is NOT Jim Alger! It is an anonymous supporter because a lot of people who regularly see Jim at NC meetings, happen to also not only be looking at the comment section of this blog, but feel the need to weigh-in. And this anon poster, who just happens to be here also knows that when jim lobbies, he no longer needs to go to council, he just calls them. YEAH, LIKE DOMINOS PIZZA...pick up the phone, tell council -- then they do it, if you are Jim Alger. What about putting things on-the-record, dummy!?!? You can't do that from the phone. Also, the fact that it goes out on TV notifies others. You don't think of that, dummy (whoever wrote that on Jim's behalf/you claim to know how he "lobbies"). Picking up the phone to "lobby" for you own special cause is one thing. What I do is something completely different.
I am not as great and powerful as the legendary Jim Alger, who doesn't have to schlep to city hall when he "lobbies" -- he just has to pick up the phone. WOW! He's pretty influential. Will that be sausage or pepperoni while you're at it.
zuma, have you ever seen truly influential or significant people popping up at council meetings day after day, to get their mugs on camera and try to get validation because they are so insecure, that they can't get attention or influence anyone? In fact, because people avoid them? No.
The clowns show up, and no one even cares to be offended by you people any more, except when you're rude and take up their time. I don't know Jim, and I'm not Jim, although you will accuse Jim of being me.
But whether one agrees with him or not, no one things Jim is a fool because he hasn't worn out his welcome, he isn't rude, and he can string two sentences together without being incoherent, screaming "crybaby loser!" or being paranoid.
This is strange. Fighting between these two. How did this happen? Zuma, for all your ways, you're pretty astute with the issues. Presentation is a bit different but you're out there and engaging people.
Well, I'm not Alger either, and I don't even know him, but I agree with him.
You are a clown and a fool, and an embarrassment to our society.
You offend each of my senses, and especially my olefactory sense when I have the unfortunate bad luck to be in chambers on a day you valiently volunteer to help those who haven't asked and don't want help, to appear and spew your nutsy rhetoric.
I usually like to sit forward so I can hear what is going on, and to chat with the folks around the horseshoe, each of whom I have known and worked with for a long time. I have to move back when you are there to avoid the awful smell; you literally reek of body odor. Have you heard of deoderant or soap?
We have had jerks like you come and go; you are nothing, not even a footnote, in the life of our great City.
Why don't you stop trying to outshout everyone and quiet down and try to learn a little about what you are so badly attempting to achieve? You are totally ineffective and nothing but a time wasting cartoon character.
Jim Alger at least acts properly and accomplishes much. If I lived in his district, he'd get my support and my vote the next time he decided to run for something.
Zuma Dog is to much like Cindy Sheehan. Word!
Stop being a goofus and go back to Pinecrest for your sixth grade diploma.
The one quick sure way to stop this loquacious asshole (ZD), is to stuff his colossal mouth with Jalapenos. You got that right.
From today's L.A. Times:
"Ex-council aide gets $125,000
The office manager for Councilman Ed Reyes alleged that she was fired because she ran against a candidate he was endorsing."
How ironic, Ed Reyes got fired by Mike Hernandez in December of 2000, right before Christmas, because Ed decided to run for the 1st Council seat against the 500 lb. gorilla, as the Times put it, Richard Polanco - Mike's buddy.
Then Nick Pacheco stepped in and saved Ed's ass by getting him elected to the city council seat. Then Ed thanks Nick by stabbing him in the back when Nick ran again for CD 14 and Ed supported his opponent. No matter what, Ed and Jose (Ed's chief of staff and former Nick staffer) the two biggest pussies on the city council, karma will get you.
karma is psycho babble, but I'm interested to know what Mike Hernandez did with the 32 LBS. of women's pantie's he kept in his office drawers? Remember when Noriega got arrested, he was wearing woman's red pantie's, the color red was supposedly to keep bad Karma at bay.
Zuma wears women's pantiea now, but prefers pink and baby blue.
Booze party last nite at Zumas...
Things collapsed before the sun rose. A few stalwarts were slumped near the bottles, moving like Gila monsters during a cold snap, but most have crawled into corners like poisoned cats or split after the second time the cops showed up.
But it was quite something, wasn’t it Zuma Dog? You rode that toboggan down the stair case and lived to tell the tale. You voyaged far past the edge of the map and perhaps have some fine stories to tell.
Except you can’t tell them. You blacked out pal.
Firehose Philosophizing - A La Zuma Dog....
That nasty little filter that restrains your lizard brain from saying ridiculous things while sober has been lost along with your jacket, so turn your mouth nozzle up to full blast. You don’t have to have a point—just start talking. It’ll come to you as you go, and it usually goes something like this: “You know, what I was saying was—and there’s plenty of times when I think this is true—that if everyone got behind this, the whole world would be that much smarter because, see, the problem is, people don’t understand nothing and that’s why I’m right about this thing.”
What thing? Who cares? You made your point brilliantly! Who could argue against that splendid brand of home spun logic?
Former Sen. Edwards Calls Ann Coulter 'She-Devil'. Coulter calls Edwards wife 'fat dying pig'.
So after skimming the LAT and the DN, I click on Mayor Sam to check out the gossip and find an asinine rant by ZD about a community activist in the Valley. Too bad we don't have an alternative to this crap.
When is somebody going to ask Chick what the hell she's been doing since taking office? Did she just realize we're flushing millions of dollars in anti-gang funding down a toilet?
Tax hike measure gaining backers on City Council
The proposal would raise property taxes by about $40 annually per land parcel to finance anti-gang programs.
By David Zahniser
August 18, 2007
Nearly half of the Los Angeles City Council pushed Friday to resurrect a plan for sending voters a $30-million property tax hike to pay for anti-gang programs -- a move quickly denounced by City Controller Laura Chick as poorly conceived and premature.
Six council members signed on to a proposal from Councilwoman Janice Hahn to draft a measure for the Feb. 5 presidential primary election that would raise property taxes by roughly $40 per year for each parcel of land.
Chick argued that the council should hold off until she comes back with a report on how the city could make its anti-gang programs more effective -- a document that won't be ready until January or February.
"I don't understand how we ask the public to put more money into our existing efforts until we ask and answer the questions: How are we doing, and how can we do it better?" she said
Sociopath Death Match 2008!
C'mon guys - this fruitcake cannot even afford money for food, let alone gas or even coffee.
How can he pony up for booze or dope?
Total bullshit if the idiot council members think they're going to put another tax hike to pay for gang programs that we all know are corrupt. All the NC's are against another tax and that EMBEZZLE JANICE HAHN would be the idiot to try this shit. Even Laura Chick is saying you can't ask the voters to pay more money for programs that haven't been audited and are already wasting millions like Connie Rice said. I want to know who was stupid enough besides Rosendahl and moron Hahn to support this shit? We are going to campaign hard against this corruption.
ZD SAID: "What about putting things on-the-record, dummy!?!? You can't do that from the phone. Also, the fact that it goes out on TV notifies others."
I am no Jim Alger fan but ZD, hat is hands down the DUMBEST thing you ever said. When was the last time you saw ANY lobbyist standing at the microphone to "put things on the record?" He doesn't need to "notify others," he needs to convince those with a vote. Jim's MO is pretty simple, he gets allot of community support on a particular issue and with that support takes it to city hall.
He was working that Home Depot issue hard. I watched him hand out the secret Dakota memo to everyone in the horseshoe. He didn't need to be at the microphone. I had heard that he was at the community meeting of 800 and spoke about how to effectively lobby City Hall, and they did -- brilliantly.
Now Jim has done some goofy shit and has certainly had a few mis-steps along the way but you certainly can not call him ineffective. You on the other hand ZD, are a complete joke.
By the way, Mayor Sam... since when do you allow this blog to be used to attack citizen activists?
Zuma Dogg is like an unruly mutt; he is uncontrollable.
By the way, he can't control himself, either. Just watch the attention whore when he gets his two minutes to exercise his constitutional rights, over and over and over again.
His antics clearly show a demented personality who got little or no love as a child.
9:28am,
Lobbying has nothing to do with putting something on the record which opens the door for legal challenges. Sorry what I am doing is over your head. Maybe some others can explain to you.
and 10:44am is a mindreader and judge and jury and is qualified to make decisions about my upbringing. CLEARLY show...little or no love...these are all things that they are here to tell you as fact, because he is the judge, jury, decider...ask garcetti, greuel, oconnell or any of the CMs how my speeches have been.
Zuma Dogg (aka Dave Elliott), let me try and break this down for you ok? I'll go slow so you can follow the bouncing ball...
As for the Home Depot, I was involved with that battle from just about day one. I advised Abby Diamond and Joe B. to bifurcate the NHDC from the Neighborhood Council as the NC would have limitations on what it could and could not do but would be a useful weapon as the issue moved along. I also explained that EVERY legal argument that could be made must be made as without it on the record it could not be brought up in a later legal challenge.
Then I told him how we beat Wal Mart. By holding community meetings and keeping the issue alive so as to encourage, if not compel, elected leaders to listen as well as force the applicant (in this case Home Depot) to realize the community wasn't going to back down.. As the STNC opposed the HD, I advised them to go seek other NC's support (which they may have already begun at the time I don't remember). The NC became 1 spoke in the wheel.
We then went to every public hearing, raising every legal argument no matter how remote (as you say "putting it on the record".
Now I know you don't know what a PLUM Committee, let alone a Planning Committee, is because they don't have TV cameras there for you to make an ass out of yourself but this is where the real work of "creating the record" gets done. We don't go down there and act like fools, we present calm, deliberate and FACTUAL information to build a case for our side. That, my friend, is why I am 3 and 0 in these battles. EACH one by the way I was told could not be won.
Now when I say "I" that implies that I did all the work which is FAR from true. Joe and Abby did most of the work on Home Depot, I merely consulted them on a continual basis to keep their eye on the ball and help them navigate the labyrinth that is city government, as well as speak to the community to give them hope early on that this fight could be won.
When the time came, I placed calls to certain City Council Members and/or their staff to discuss the issue, or arranged for who would depending on who had what relationship with what Council member. (For example, I wouldn't call Greig Smith if my life depended on it so I made sure someone else did.)
That, Mr. Elliot is how you "advocate for the community". Not by calling yourself a Dog, dressing like a ingrate and acting worse. The utter contempt you show for elected officials is disgraceful. Your throw around words like "corrupt" like it's going out of style, even to describe me... a VOLUNTEER who has not been paid 1 thin dime for any of my service on DWP, Northridge Wal mart or ST Home Depot yet you call me corrupt??? Do you even know the definition?
As a mater of course you throw out accusations you know nothing about (ie: stating that the voters in Northridge "didn't want me" implying I lost an election I couldn't lose because I was unchallenged in a default seat. So let me give you the back story on that ok? At the time of the NC election I knew I was going to be targeted by a Chamber of Commerce slate but didn't particularly care because it was a default win anyhow. I was also working for the california Faculty Association organizing the Cal State campuses for a potential strike. While all this was oing on, my father passed away. I had to do my job, which was culminating to a strike vote that week, prepare for an NC election and arrange to have my father brought from Miami to Arlington National Cemetery... oh, and get all my family there. Something had to give and I dropped the ball on the Neighborhood Council, didn't provide the proper documentation and make sure it was taken in its proper context and as a result was disqualified as not being a documented stakeholder. (The irony on how this relates to the immigration debate doesn't escape me but I digress)
That, is the real story. As for my "political career", you need not be concerned with it but remember this about politics, you can die a thousand deaths and I haven't died once yet.
While the NHDC were trying to talk to the media the other day you just couldn't stand that nobody was looking at you, (and KFI went out of there way to ignore you) so you start flailing around on the floor talking about suing the city... that buffoonery is precisely why I have zero respect for you... well that and the fact that you are obsessed with accusing me of every negative post about you that is here.
As for the negative posts about you, for the 100th time, I post under my name.
Now I know you have difficulty comprehending the English language, but read that last line a few times and get it through your skull.
Oh, by the way, I have never once been cut off of comment, removed from council chambers or called a clown by a City Council Member on air so yes, I guess you have me there.
Jim,
I scanned you comment. Good for you on all your work. That is ONE way to do it. I do things another way. Other people do things differently than you and I do them. It's about the total effect we all have when you add it all up and that how the sum becomes more than the parts --- and you can get some community momentum which can cut through a little of the beuracracy (and worse) hopefully.
Stop trying to mindread how and why I do the things I do. Other people show up for the cameras, too.
And Jim, the cameras are a most critical element that you should come to realize. Since it IS being broadcast to the people of the community -- and other officials and agencies city, county and statewide -- that DOES indeed provide some added leverage on the message.
AND I WILL ALSO ADD, no everyone wants to go on camera (for different reasons -- all very understandable); or simply cannot attend during those hours (for whatever reasons -- all very understandable).
So, many of those people call and email me info and I present it on camera, before council because if there are some legal or ethic violations I become aware of (through experts who make me aware, then I verify) -- by going to the meeting, it not only puts it on the record (which is something that MUST be done, by law, in order to be able to pursue legal remedies in the future.
AND...YES...the fact that it goes out on tv for other officials (like the DA's office), other media, and the entire community...that is an effective use of time and energy as nothing other than an activist.
And, to those who complain about the yelling, dancing and hoody-hoos...that's not happening anymore, and hasn't been happening in a while. CHECK THE TV 35 archives. Do a search for "zuma" and watch all my comments from the past month or two. WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE IN WHICH YOU REFER?
IF SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE "Y'ALL'S" and "Hoody hoos"...well they are either haven't been watching the past few months...or are simply trying to spin some lies and propoganda to try and keep an old, outdated image alive. (LOL!)
But back to Jim...I'm glad you outlined your efforts over the Home Depot. Man, I'm really glad you are doing all of that!
Each of us operates in our own way. Just keep doing what you are doing, and don't worry about me.
To whatever degree I am helping, or hurting, at least I am trying to do as much as I personally can each day to try and activate the community; and a lot of people, including the ZD critics HAVE INDEED helped me to evolve, and again, I still may wear a hat and glasses while delivering the message, but check my comments from this past week and month.
Jim, I'm not saying me and you need to collaborate and talk to each other, the way I talk with a lot of the other people who read mayor sam and who show up at city hall and attend NC meetings...
In other words, you don't have to be a part of the same activist circle ZD rolls with. (Maybe we speak to some of the same people..maybe not)...but damn bro...can't you just start posting 100% about the things you are doing...or post opposition to something I say...but isn't it enough time and space wasted on trying to prove what a fly I am in the ointment of democracy. I just came off the best week of council meetings...you read about it yesterday. Now if you wanna say my comments on LAUSD are idiot (and explain why -- besides saying I used to sing and dance...and I am only commenting on LAUSD, or the housing policy, or non-profit abuse because it is good for my comedy/tv career. (As if Hollywood types base their projects on accuracy of legislative analysis of the LAUSD annual order of business. YEAH, I think there's a new reality show from the producers of American Idol coming out on who can review an agenda and come up with a legislative review. HUGE RATINGS!!! I'm gonna tour with Justin Timberlake! BIG, BIG fame and fortune to be made discussing non-profits and affordable housing.
Anyway Jim...you know I called you and tried to network with you when I first found mayor sam, because you seemed to be knowledgeable on things...you were obviously the most outraged person in the city over my persona...but that has evolved anyway...so i'm not saying we have to speak every day or so like I do with so many others in the City....but hopefully you and some others can go back to blogging the way they used to before ZD...and realize...although no one would like ZD to go away than I...it looks like were stuck with the situation, at least for a while longer...so just carry on. In this diverse and overcrowded city, you are never gonna have those ideal conditions for anything in this city. I didn't like all the people on the bus today; or some of the comments on this blog; or some of the opinions expressed by other speakers at City Hall.
But I still got on the bus, did my own public comment, then blog here on mayor sam. And when I got on the bus, I didn't complain about the people who's behavior I didn't like, I didn't criticize other public comment speakers for their positions, during my public comment time...and when I create a new thread, I don't attack other mayor sam authors if I don't agree with their position. I will simply post my own thread with my own position. And if any mayor sam contributor would say, "Contrary to (other author's) comments, I feel (blank). I don't think we would be commenting on the personal side of people's lives.
Now I know the idiots will have to take this and attack it, and come up with all kinds of problems with the things I just said. So go ahead and use your time that way. But I think the smart people, who aren't on a personal agenda understand what I am saying, in the spirit in which it is intended.
And to the rest of you...have fun! You are running your own process. I hope it is rewarding.
"Stop trying to mindread how and why I do the things I do. Other people show up for the cameras, too."
"Too"??? No mind reading there my friend, you just admitted why you're there. Some of us actually give a damn about the community and the issue.
"And Jim, the cameras are a most critical element that you should come to realize."
Are you seriously trying to lecture me on how to handle messaging successfully? By the time things get to City Council, the decisions are almost always made which is why your rants fall on deaf ears.
"Anyway Jim...you know I called you and tried to network with you when I first found mayor sam, because you seemed to be knowledgeable on things...you were obviously the most outraged person in the city over my persona..."
Not at all, but politically you becamea liability very fast. I would get questions like "how can you support that clown and then come into my office..." I got tired of defending you. Higby egged on the "problem" because I told him REPEATEDLY that I overall didn't have a problem with you, just found your antics counter productive. Apparently that message never got through.
Then you launched an attack on me, accusing me of deleting your posts and of posting on MS about you... PROVE one word of all of that. You CAN'T because it NEVER happened.
You repeatedly refer to me as "Defeated crybaby loser" and "wannabe Congressman" and whatever else your pre-pubescent brain can conjure up but the second I get tired of your bs and dare utter a word you decide to utilize the blog to launch into another attack on me in the main thread out of the blue? Unbelievable.
When you say "we" Dave, don't include me in that. There is no "we" as far as your concerned. I keep trying to tell you, these are real peoples lives here... not some game show.
How abut you take some of your own advice and exclude me from your vocabulary.
This is rich... first ZD attacks Alger, now he is trying the "why can't we all get along" tact when Alger fires back.
You know Mayor Sam, I have to say that this crosses a line. Where does this arrogant piss-ant mutt get off attacking a community activist, and where do you get off letting him do it?
Jim,
I can see you are all wrapped up in you little pattern. You are quite a blow-hard, pompous-ass.
Alright bro. I can see you have a lot invested in your position. And you are not the person I thought you were.
Have fun proving your point to the world, and keep posting your anonymous slams against me.
Have fun doing all the big things you are doing Jim. I THINK I ACHIEVED THE GOAL OF SMOKING YOU OUT AND EXPOSING YOU AS THE ANONYMOUS POSTER WHO I HAVE BELIEVED YOU TO BE ALL ALONG. (Not that there aren't some others...but Jim, you need some serious help my man. Forgive me for mindreading. But based on meeting you in person, and the postings under "Jim Alger"...you need some help bud. But you don't want to hear that coming from me.
But you are a husband and father to your kids -- and this can't be healthy for them. Meanwhile, although I have sympathy for you, I still feel you are a pathetic, clown of a pompus loser. And you are kinda the laughing stock name people use in the activist community. Sorry to break it to you. Keep huffing and puffing Jim...maybe someday you will finally turn the world against me. And then everyone will love you, Jim. And they will all be talking about you. Just kidding...that will never happen. Because even if the whole world DID turn against me...that doesn't mean they would care any more about you than before ZD.
So I gave it a shot Jim, but you are just far too hostile and I do question your motives. I don't think you know a thing about compassion or the community. And I challenge you to a debate on issues over the past year off the city agenda, anytime -- anywhere; and I will pummle you in a public forum. Not only are you a pompous, arrogant turn off to any crowd...you aren't that bright either. Don't get your pompous, arrogant, blow-hard tone confused with knowledge.
Jim, lets keep this simple. I say I will mop the floor with you and send you running out the room in a public humilation before ANY sized crowd, anywhere in the city.
I've been nice to you Jim. You wanna take me on? Let's do it on a LIVE Public Access forum. We will choose agenda items at random from the past year and we will have two minutes each to state a position. The more people watching the better. JIM YOU ARROGANT BLOW HARD...FIRST MAYOR SAM KICKED YOU OFF HIS BLOG...THEN YOUR NC CAREER ENDED...NOW YOU CAN EITHER DEBATE ME IN A PUBLIC FORUM, OR SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ZUMA DOGG!!! TELL ME WHERE AND WHEN AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE THERE AND WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH THE PEOPLE HATE ME AND LOVE YOU AND HOW YOU ARE SO SMART ON EVERYTHING AND HOW I AM SUCH A BAD GUY.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP JIM!!!
Gelsons Market is having a big sale on prunes today. Since you are both so full of shit, perhaps you need to get down there right away!
I WANT TO SEE JIM ALGER'S POSITIONS ON SOME CITYWIDE ISSUES. HE CALLS HIMSELF AN ACTIVIST...WHAT ARE HIS POSITIONS ON THINGS BEYOND SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS HIM IN HIS OWN BACKYARD?
"Where does this arrogant piss-ant mutt get off attacking a community activist, and where do you get off letting him do it?"
[Where does Jim Alger and all of his anonymous comments --- AND YES, I AM CLAIMING I BELIEVE JIM ALGER HAS POSTED HUNDREDED OF ANONYMOUS COMMENTS HERE, AND I CHALLENGE HIM TO PROVE OTHERWISE VIA POLYGRAPH TEST...I AM STATING MY OPINION, AND I SAY JIM ALGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HUNDREDS OF THE POSTS ABOUT ME ON THIS BLOG.
AND HE HAS ATTACKED ME UNDER HIS NAME, TOO. Why don't you complain to mayor sam about how he gets off letting hundreds of THOSE ANONYMOUS comments.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN MY OPINION THAT I BELIEVE ALL OF THESE OUTRAGED COMMENTS ARE FROM JIM ALGER!!! Because I just don't think that many people can possibly be posting on this saturday afternoon, right here, who even know who Jim Alger is.
Besides a few of us activists who use his name as a joke, "Who came up with THAT idea, Jim Alger?"
But there just cannot be this many people who care about this who are posting here. So that's why I think all of these comments are from Jim Alger, himself. Who I also feel voted for himself relentlesly to award himself, "Citizen of the year award." I mean really, does anyone really even know Jim Alger outside this mayor sam crowd?
pERHPS THIS SHALL SHED SOME LIGHT ON IT. i RECEIVED THIS EMAIL...
Dear Friends;
As you know Jim Alger is constantly under attack by those who don't believe in the things we care about, choosing what gets built in our own communities, changing the status quo and overall returning the power to the people. Usually there is little that can be done about these attacks but today is different.
Jim has been attacked by a blogger at Mayor Sam’s Sister City and while usually we would say “let it be”, this gives us a unique chance to fight back. It is important not to allow these lies to ferment any longer than necessary for in the world of politics, lies become truth when repeated often enough.
When you have a moment, please visit the blog Mayor Sam’s Sister City (http://mayorsam.blogspot.com) and tell them to stop attacking Jim Alger!
Thank you as always,
Marc Fiorillo
Friends of Jim Alger
You really think to highly of yourself ZD and your letting your paranoia get to you.
Jim has a job, a staff, 2 children and is an activist to boot. For you to think he sits here all day and comments about your sorry ass is putting yourself much higher on Jim's give-a-shit scale than you probably should.
"I WANT TO SEE JIM ALGER'S POSITIONS ON SOME CITYWIDE ISSUES. HE CALLS HIMSELF AN ACTIVIST...WHAT ARE HIS POSITIONS ON THINGS BEYOND SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS HIM IN HIS OWN BACKYARD?"
Hey jackoff, Home Depot is NOWHERE NEAR HIS OWN BACKYARD.
STOP ATTACKING JIM ALGER!!!
WE LOVE YOU JIM!!!
3:37; post that letter from Forillo on Mailander's newer thread, because if it stays here zuma will delete it.
Everyone supports you -- there are numerous people who have told Sam to take zuma off (he took Jim off instead? bad call), and some of the things on this blog about Alger are libel and you guys can sue him. It's one thing to make anon. rants, but this -- which he has done by name to many City officials -- is way wrong.
And Jim Alger only is responding to gratuitous allegegations against him. Then gets attacked for not being "nice guy" to zuma.
At least everyone can see zuma for what he really is -- he can't possibly have any supporters after this. Even those who like to see the CM's squirm can't support this person any more.
Sam didn't take Alger off, he left after one of Zuma's stupid rants. he said that he couldn't be associated with ZD... and I don't blame him one bit... Noone wants to be associated with ZD except for Sam who doesn't care as long as the hits keep coming.
This jackass zuma dogg needs to step the fuck off. is that his ugly mug in the picture? What the hell does he think he is doing attacking a guy like Alger? I aint seen his ass up in here helping us get rid of home depot. Jim is a stand-up guy man, we got your back.
Actually, ZD, why don't you just find another house ot haunt?
We are all sick and tired of yuor ego and total lack of political barometer.
You don't know shit about any of these issues and reading newspapers and blogs doesn't do it.
We've all been at this for years and you are a neophyute, trying to play an adult game.
Get lost, loser, because you are the mother of all crybaby losers. Ypu are not even in the game, you are defeated before you begin. Any "success" that happens, happens becvause of others, not you.
Grow up.
Jim Alger,
I'll give you the final word on this...and after that, keep my name out of your "activism" and just start writing about city issues. From here on in, if you are using my name in your "activism", I will feel free to take my commentary gloves off and go to town on Jim Alger around town. (I've kept it contained to the comment section of this blog with the exception of this thread.)
So although you may be thinking, the gloves must already be off...let it suffice to say, it hasn't started yet. YOU WON'T LIKE IT...DON'T BE AN EGO MANIAC. DON'T SAY, "How dare Zuma Dogg try and tell me what to say, and what not to say." Bro, I want to see what you have to say about the issues affecting the city since you call yourself an activist.
And you can certainly continue to focus an unhealthy amount of your activism on the topic of "Zuma Dogg". But if you do...I hope you are prepared for the challenge.
It is not a challenge I care to take on, because I do feel you are a low-reading comprehension, arrogant, ego-driven, jealous, tempermental and mediocre.
And I am not going to let you minimize my efforts. I do not care to minimize yours. But if you are going to continue to minimize my efforts, and at this point, mention me in any way, beyond the issues I blog and comment about, I will do everything I can to fight back twice as hard to defend myself and do to you what you have been doing to me here on this blog. SORRY JIM...after this week's worth of city council meeting with two packed chambers -- and all that went down...I WILL NO LONGER ALLOW YOU TO BESMIRTCH MY REPUTATION AND I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO DISCREDIT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO SPEND ENDLESS HOURS WITH ME PROVIDING ME THE INFORMATION I PRESENT ON TV, RADIO AND BLOGS.
So make your final swan song zd bash response, as the last word on this. And if you mention my name again...you better be prepared to go head to head with Zuma Dogg over that public perception battle. I know a few ways to bring some heat to that one. How about you Jim? YOU READY BRO??? YOU READY TO BE THE FOCUS OF ZUMA DOGG'S MEDIA ATTACK WHEN I AM MENTIONING YOU BY NAME AND SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR NC ACTIVISM??? ESPECIALLY WHEN MY ENEMIES BECOME MY FRIENDS IN THIS PR BATTLE YOU REFUSE TO LET GO OF.
It's up to you pal...I suggest you stick to the issues. And feel free to criticize me on my position on any of those. I RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE. AND SO WILL EVERYONE ELSE.
ZUMA DOGG SAID "It is not a challenge I care to take on, because I do feel you are a low-reading comprehension, arrogant, ego-driven, jealous, tempermental and mediocre.
And I am not going to let you minimize my efforts. I do not care to minimize yours."
DO YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN BULLSHIT? You minimize his efforts and then say you don't want to minimize his efforts!!!!!! FUCK, did you even GO to school????
ZD, Alger would stomp your ass dude. Enuf posturing, he handed you your ass today... over and over again.
"NO LONGER ALLOW YOU TO BESMIRTCH MY REPUTATION"
You did that to yourself fool.
Check out little Zuma Puppy, got smacked down like the little BITCH he is. Now he is going to go whimper in the corner and lick himself.
Hey Zuma Puppy, I called Alger and told him what you said... he said "bring it"
Oh wait, your homeless, jobless and lifeless... you ain't got nothing to bring!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alger should sue Mayor Sam for allowing this degenerate to post on here at all. Lord knows he couldn't sue the rodent, he doesn't have a pot to piss in.
greeeeeeeeeeat...now he'll just sit here an post anonymously saying how he's not scared but we'll see if he wants to go live on time warner for a discussion.
we'll see what a bigshot he is on live tv when it's about agenda item issues and you have to stay on topic and cannot talk about the person's living conditions, clothing or personal things.
City Attorney rules. Agenda Item issues. two minutes. on topic. LIVE on time warner. i'm ready.
besides time and place...shut the fuck up on the huffing and puffing about how you texted messaged this, and he said, "that". have a nice day. post away. the readers know where i stand. ANYTHING ELSE FROM HERE IS PUSSY BULLSH*T! And everyone will now see through it.
Alger kicked your ass ZD plain and simple
3:53 is obviously Jim referring to himself in the third person.
Sunland-Tujunga kicked Home Depot's Ass, Plain & Simple! Kudos to Joe B and the NHDC!
Something tells me Jim has something better to do.
It is always amusing however to see people boldly claim to "know" who is "obviously" posting anonymously.
It appears that Joe B has been kicked off of Mayor Sam as well. He is no longer listed as a contributor.
Sam loses all the good people and leaves us with this ass.
Sam just cares about the number of hits this blog gets, even though many have been filled with people telling zuma to get lost and what an idiot he is, and the other half of the posts are zuma attacking his critics as "haters."
Hey, zuma, haven't seen your CD14 Spot Dogg buddy or matt come out in support of you yet, did they jump off the losing team so fast?
Publicity by being attached to a foul-mouthed lunatic is "good" for them until you're left alone, huh?
Sam,
Can you finally understand that it's not "amusing" to sit back and watch "how Zuma ticks certain people off," as you've said to justify keeping him on? It's sick.
Yeah, zuma, we'd all love to see a slugfest/ debate between you and Jim.
Him in his shirt and tie with all his supporters, and you in your winter cap and sunglasses and matt and all the other two fruitcakes of yours.
Bring it on! Keep threatening, I'd love to see that show!
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When Phil Krakover left this blog, he implored all of us to leave and leave this fool talking to himself and Matt Dowd, his butt boy.
Why don't we all take that advice?
I'm ready to pack it in; I'm just too sick of seeing the crap he posts, then argues with every other poster.
You won't see me posting to ZD again; anyone else following Phil's good advice?
who removed those comments? What were they? I sure didn't remove them...who removed them? Please send me an email and let me know.
Well, haven't seen Jack Hoff, either, one of the few other people worth interacting with. But I can see Jim's point here, he was attacked in person and by name out of the blue, when Jim has never posted here, not on or about Zuma anyway, unless zuma attacked him first. If Jim and his friends (or new friends, who just don't like seeing someone attacked, like me) hadn't responded, they would have left it to zuma and his few buds or zuma himself posting anon., to make it look like they hit a home run.
None of us should ever engage or reply to zuma on any of the issues.
And he posts threads that are often nothing more than telling him to get lost so someone else can post a thread worth discussing.
But when he posts a thread just to attack someone, he should be called on it. He's done it too long with public officials, too, and I think once you go that route, there's no end to how far you sink and how fast. As zuma is showing us.
I guess it's pretty clear now that when you give cash to homeless people, they spend it on drugs.
ZD is so baked. But here I am clicking on this site so more cash goes to Mayor Sam... am I helping pay for ZD's drugs?
That's the dilemma, so unless we manage to remove idiot dogg from the blog, must boycott it completely. Can't even come on to tell sam and zuma to go away, because it "counts" the same. And that and zuma's own rant replies are 98% of his threads.
Sam, are you really proud of yourself? What about Mailander?
Remember, zuma posted a few threads back that one of his fellow bloggers/ colleagues was putting up new threads and taking down some of his in the middle of the night, and he accused that person of posting against him anon, too.
So he is already a bother to someone at the Sam site. After this that person must be mortified.
12:01am said..."Remember, zuma posted...that one of his fellow bloggers/ colleagues was...taking down some of his in the middle of the night."
ATTENTION READERS: THE POSTER HAS THAT COMPLETELY WRONG. I NEVER SAID THAT. NO ONE IN THIS UNIVERSE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO BACK THAT UP.
IT JUST PROVES HOW SOMEONE IS EITHER A LIAR OR A LOW-READING COMPREHENSION LOSER. (And no wonder they are so outraged all the time. They read but cannot understand. Fear and hostility is in the way.)
To: Phil Krakover, Jack Hoff, One Who Knows and others -
I'm outta here myself.
See you guys at Mayor Sam or Mailander, but never here again.
Zuma, "no one in the universe will ever be able to back that up."
How about, just look to 8/12 zuma at 10:44 p.m. You can't take it back, it's out there on the internet.
Just like your gratuitous, paranoid attacks against Jim Alger with his name associated with this on google.
looked for the 8/12 10:44pm...couldn't find it? did not delete it, so don't say that. did you get the time and date wrong? why not just repost my comment and let me see. what is wrong with you anyway? don't you think you are spending a little too much time on the issue of me? at the end of the day, if i said whatever you said i said about a fellow blogger, or whatever...(i'm not sure what it is...but let's just say it's true ...SO WHAT? Am I some kind of elected official who is in control of the public money? Am I violating the Charter over the housing policy? Are you missing the entire point of what you are trying to accomplish? (Unless the only thing you are trying to accomplish is being an expert on Zuma Dogg.) I mean bro, I think when you are spending this much time being such an expert on all comments ZD, you have a psychological or emotional problem.
Quite flattering, I must say...but it does make me sad, because I don't like to see people in crisis and despair.
I hearby swear to avoid clicking on anything ZD-related. Yeah, it's like a boycott but different.
I will not click on anything that gives ZD a "hit!"
Get it? Get it?
No more [bong] hits for ZD.
3:11am,
Here's the original comment that I still maintain no one in the universe will EVER be able to back up because I DID NOT EVER MAKE THIS COMMENT OR INSINUATION: "Remember, zuma posted a few threads back that one of his fellow bloggers/ colleagues was putting up new threads and taking down some of his in the middle of the night"
I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW: THIS PROVES HOW THIS PERSON SUFFERS FROM LOW READING COMPREHENSION AND "FILTERS" AND "DISTORTS" THE INFO HE TAKES IN. That is why he is so frustrated and angry all the time.
So, although they directed you to 8/22 10:44pm (and they weren't able to get that right) -- I know what they are talking about -- and I will retire from City Hall apperances and never blog again, if that person can produce this comment where I say, or ellude to this: "Remember, zuma posted a few threads back that one of his fellow bloggers/ colleagues was putting up new threads and taking down some of his in the middle of the night"
ALRIGHT PEOPLE...I've been trying to show you, once again, some of the lies, mistruths, out of context stuff and flat-out low comprehension that is used to propogandize here on this blog.
BE CAREFUL...the more desparate these losers become, as they see they can not "get zd" -- the bigger and more frequent the lies.
And although there is plenty of ZD opposition out there on the blog...I do feel there is one certain individual who suffers actual psychological and emotional disorders. (I know, I know..how dare ZD say that/pot calling the kettle black...ha, ha). But I am completely serious when I state my belief that although there is more than one anti-zd blogger here, don't get the ZD persona confused with someone who really does have a hard time perceiveing reality, and is an emotional timebomb who is letting his entire life slip away over this.
I don't think the person is fooling anyone with his multiple anonymous comments.
ZD, you really are a sad man.
We all know who Zuma Dogg is. He is famous now, whether you like him or hate him.
But who is Jim Alger?
ZD is famous in his own mind. Jim Alger is someone that ZD feared so much he felt the need to use this blog to mount an attack against him.
By all accounts that attack not only failed, but backfired pretty bad on the canine as Jim proceeded to calmly take the dog back behind he tool-shed and kick the bejesus out of him like his momma should have done years ago.
It was such a Mayor Sam classic moment that I have taken the liberty of cutting and pasting Jim's last post on the issue below:
Jim Alger said...
Good evening boys and girls, wow i am not sure where to begin.
Let me start by thanking those that defended me, (although my guess is that it was 4 guys and a girl in a pizza shop and not hundreds of supporters) but thank you nonetheless.
As for David Elliot aka ZD, I am not even going to deny your charges of posting on here anonymously since that doesn't seem to get through to you.
I will say this, YOU ARE DISRUPTIVE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, now sue me.
When I spoke to Mike Higby about you along time ago, he expressed his desire to simply drive more hits to the website. Mistaking quantity for quality he has allowed your dribble for far too long. I empathize with the City Council members who are forced to listen to your self promoting ramblings about this radio show or that website. It is not a far stretch to assume that someone who may be inclined to show up at a City Council meeting might see the likes of you and few others and feel safer locked on the wrong side of an insane asylums wall and thus stay home, and that is sad.
More than anything Dave, I actually pity you. How sad it must be to stroll through life with no real purpose, desperately searching for validation anyplace you can get it. You are very much like the child who acts out, accepting his parent’s anger over no attention at all. I assume you will view this post as an attack, it isn't. It is merely an observation. To attack you, or attempt to belittle you makes the false assumption that you had some sort of stature from which to fall from initially. Alas, you do not.
If you wish to attack me as you have threatened to, knock yourself out my friend. I have taken on much larger fish than anything your hand-held net could muster. My mistake in this entire escapade was to give you the common decency of a response. In doing so, I have risen yourself, and lowered myself to a place neither one of us truly belongs. Should you wish to debate me as you so claim, simply file papers and run against me. At such a time, assuming you could even qualify for a ballot, debates are scheduled and moderated. Perhaps you'll get luck and catch me on a bad day although considering I make a pretty good living working in politics, my guess is even on your best and my worst day you wouldn't make it past introducing yourself.
Now, you can make all the accusations you want son, but the reality is that my career far from ended... I merely arrived at a much larger pond. A pond that takes me to Washington, Sacramento and home, thus taking up a good deal of my time. I simply don't have the time to play in your little sandbox quite so often. It is entertaining though. I understand that criticism is the highest form of flattery. It is ok that you want to be like me one day, and maybe one day you can. Until then, keep doing your thing Dave.
See ya on the other side.
August 18, 2007 8:14 PM
Now that is getting manhandled! LMFAO!
Why do the Zumma haters keep rattling his cage? Just throw this monkey a banana and he will quiet down. He gets excited, jumps, dances and screams when you rattle his cage, don't give him too much attention.
So, please don’t rattle his cage, but you made feed the hungry monkey.
ZUZU, We got your Back, Here west of the 405. Screw Jim and his cronies.. Yeah they worked their butts off on the Corridor Project, because it was filling their Coffers and Wallets with "Consulting Fees" that are regularly paid under the table.
9:56pm,
LOL! You're just the big bad wolf, aren't you! I bet you could huff and puff and blow a Home Depot down!
I'm very impressed. I think everyone else reading is also very impressed and they don't have a clue as to who could have posted that?
Yes Jackass, I posted it. You got a problem with that? Or am I Jim Alger now as well???
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