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Friday, August 24, 2007

Baffled on a Friday

First off Joe M. and Zuma D. have hit multiple home runs on their stories the last 24 hours. I know the usual defeated, crybaby losers will have plenty to say but I don't give a whoo-ha. This is some solid reporting, analysis and important information they're getting out in the blog-la-sphere. Great job.

Secondly I am bummed I wasn't invited to read at the blogger reading. Maybe next time. I am prepared to regale the attendes with stories of naddering NIMBY naybobs, negatory nanny state control freaks and blathering, blogging dum dums in need of razor blade gargles and play sessions on the freeway.

On to the matter at hand. I found a comment on a post so baffling I had to elevate it to front page status.

Anonymous said:

gtdzMayor sam Said... "I don't agree with Zuma on a
lot of things but I am baffled by the emotional, knee jerk reactions to him."

Many of us work hard and long and to see zuma dog at a city council
meeting playing the fool I feel my tax dollars are being wasted. Or the video of
him disrupting the library or any of his other attention seeking stunts. The dog
lives out of his van and begs for $$, it's not his tax dollars being wasted.

August 23, 2007 9:24 PM


I am baffled as to what tax dollars are being wasted by Zuma Dogg going to public comment - even to the extreme of putting on the Gene Simmons mask (still my favorite) or allegedly dancing like Justin Timberlake? The meeting goes on without Zuma, the Councilmembers are late and waste their time on long ass boring presentations without Zuma, they still conduct foreign policy whether Zuma is there or not and they still pass shady event waivers whether Zuma is there or not. There is no additional cost associated with Zuma - that is unless his Brown Act rights are violated or he's abused by security - which of course could be very expensive. Those are all choices made by the Clowncil, not ZD.

The Clowncil can easily waste more money in one vote than a decade of Zuma Dogg antics would effect. So I am baffled.

People may not like the way Zuma looks, talks, dances, smells, whatever. But agent provocateurs who engage in political theatre are 1) an American tradition going back to the Boston Tea Party and 2) More importantly, a vital and necessary check on government excess especially when the media is out to lunch. Many times, Zuma is right and he brings to light important issues. Why do you think his phone rings off the hook and we get tons of email from government whistleblowers who trust Zuma to get their information out there.

Indeed, its the "jealous cry-baby losers" who just might have something to lose if Zuma shed some sunshine on them. Otherwise they wouldn't bitch and complain so much. If Zuma were not so powerful, he'd be another one of the many goofy gadflies who have graced City Hall and may elicit a snicker or perhaps an "Oh shit" from Clowncil members, spinners and lackeys, but never the second, third or fourth thoughts many of you give to Zuma.

There is major corruption and shady dealings going on in local government and a number of attendant community organizations, businesses, unions, developers, etc. who all have their finger in the pie. When the MSM refuses to lift a finger, thank God we have Zuma and others who dedicated their lives (however you may judge them) to these causes.

Sooo....astro turf away dum dums!

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69 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"If Zuma were not so powerful ... "

Higby, you're an idiot.

August 24, 2007 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam has a point. If Zuma is the run of the mill idiot the spinner says why does he care?

August 24, 2007 11:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The "cry baby losers" who want to bar ZD from the rights afforded citizens because his style or issues do not make them happy are the same ones who want to dispense free speech and all the other rights of American citizens very selectively only to those whose speech and opinions they agree with. THEY and all like them are your REAL ENEMIES!

And I couldn't agree more - with the waste generated by those in office, they have no right to complain about ANY citizen coming before them as a "waste of time and money". Wasting time and money?!?! THEY have NO room to talk!

August 24, 2007 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Every comment posted within 30 minutes. Now THAT is a showing of support for ZD! LOL

August 24, 2007 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SAM SAID "The meeting goes on without Zuma, the Councilmembers are late and waste their time on long ass boring presentations without Zuma, they still conduct foreign policy whether Zuma is there or not and they still pass shady event waivers whether Zuma is there or not."

AT LAST YOU FINALLY ADMIT HE SERVES NO PURPOSE!

August 24, 2007 12:37 PM  

Anonymous unanamous anonymous insidious said:

' "If Zuma were not so powerful ... "

Higby, you're an idiot.'

10:55 - You're another idiot!

August 24, 2007 12:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

how do you have time to be writing this crybaby loser stuff on why you're not welcome among bloggers and why people hate you -- didn't you boast last night that you're going to hang out with the supes from now on, "educating" them, especially your new BBF Zev, at the "Zev and zd show?"

Have you gotten the boot after one day already?

August 24, 2007 12:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AT LAST YOU FINALLY ADMIT HE SERVES NO PURPOSE!

August 24, 2007 12:37 PM

No - Incorrect! He serves the "purpose" of being a CITIZEN who WISHES TO EXCERCISE HIS RIGHTS! THAT is the only "PURPOSE" he MUST fulfill!

And, incidentally, though I probably do not agree with him on all issues, he serves quite a few other "purposes", among them bringing to light many things the citizens should be aware of and would not likely otherwise!

You people need to re-check what freedom, rights and responsibilities MEAN in AMERICA! If the "representatives" have nothing to hide then they should never be "bothered" by any CITIZEN who chooses to exercise their rights and freedoms!

August 24, 2007 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1237 - good spin but stupid writing.

August 24, 2007 12:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam we want more of those ads like you have for the hot bartender contest! I am going to click and vote!!!! That chick is HOT!

August 24, 2007 12:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The poster was clearly making a valid point, that by being open to public comment and sitting there listening to constituents is something intended to allow people to make spur of the moment important grievances known to the governing city body. It is not intended for an uneducated moron to force them to sit for an extra five of six minutes, whatever the max is these days, listening to an idiot telling them wha't wrong with them and having nothing to contribute.

If Higby/Sam really can't see this, he is either playing dumb, or wants to do anything in his power to disrupt city government and anyone who works with the Mayor. Although tht makes no sense, not all of those people even like the Mayor but they have to work together.

It sounds like Higby is really upset because the smart posts they used to get have disappeared, so he can't say it's one or two people who are obsessed with zuma like he used to claim. There are now posts every few hours and no one shows up to the party. Zuma is to reporting what quacks are to real doctors.

And the proclamations you bitch about are to honor people who have done real and important things for the city, not people who act like hysterical clowns for their own P R. Maybe not everyone cares, but hey maybe get five minutes to honor a lifetime of achievement not that time every day like a spoiled brat saying "look at my, mommy and daddy, acting like a fool and syaing I hate you." Why didn't this guy have any real parents to teach him how to behave?

I'm not part of the city but if I had to sit and listen to these clowns complain and tell me what's wrong with me every day I'd get another job no matter what it was.
Higby, you are an enabler.

August 24, 2007 1:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

August 24, 2007 1:02 PM

You MUST be a communist ... you simply, willfully REFUSE to GET IT!

"known to the governing city body."

The members of the "governing" body are the employees of the CITIZEN and it IS THEIR DUTY to listen to their employers! NOT to graciously GRANT their "subjects" a few minutes of their precious time as and when they are feeling beneficent!

"It is not intended for an uneducated moron to force them to sit for an extra five of six minutes, whatever the max is these days, listening to an idiot telling them wha't wrong with them and having nothing to contribute."

You bitch about five or six minutes? WHAT is wrong with YOU? Whether or not he, the CITIZEN, is an idiot or whether or not what he, the CITIZEN, brings up contributes anything are all subjective judgments - and not a bar to his RIGHTS! Rights are NOT dispensed based upon your opinions OR those of our employees, the "representatives".

"I'm not part of the city but if I had to sit and listen to these clowns complain and tell me what's wrong with me every day I'd get another job no matter what it was.
Higby, you are an enabler."


As with any employer, if you don't like him, you are FREE to quit. These "representatives" are the employees of the CITIZENS and as long as they are such, they damn well better start learning to LISTEN TO THEIR EMPLOYERS!

"It sounds like Higby is really upset because the smart posts they used to get have disappeared"

Wrong ... however, YOUR posts would certainly fall into that sub-standard comment category!

Your intervening rant between the items noted above was simply indecipherable and speaks volumes about YOU!

August 24, 2007 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said ....
Higby, you are an enabler

*****************
Heaven help us, Higby is an enabler run Forest run. You people need to relax, or as Zumma might say "yo dog chill out hoody-hoo".

Relax folks Zumma is not conducting the war Iraq or manning the controls on a Minuteman III missile.

August 24, 2007 1:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma is not a citizen, nor a taxpayer who can make any claim to employ the council or anyone. he is a smelly bum who lives in a van and begs for food and coffee as he
tells everyone. he even begs for McDonald's fish sandwiches. He is a crybaby loser, so he calls everyone else that. YOU are the commununist, which is where the uneducated, unwashed masses of losers try to overturn those who have made something of themselves by hard work and education.

YOU are the communist who wants the most uneducated and most stupid and most useless and most whiny members of a society to try to take charge.
That is exactly what happened in Soviet Russia and why the economy and culture and society went into an immediate nosedive and that country and economy tanked and became an international pariah.

YOU are the communists who want the most educated and accomplished to answer to the most stupid failures.

YOU and Zuma are the communist crybaby losers, who can't compete, and can only seek to destroy their "ruling elite" and the whole country. It is in communism that the most stupid and bitter losers think they're the smartest and most entitled to the perks that others worked hard to get. It is in communism that the most stupid put the educated in prison camps and tried to do their jobs better, and destroyed the country and lives of all the citizens.

You and Zuma are like the lowest peasants in Russia and China, Stalinists and Maoists.

YOU and Zuma and true communists.

August 24, 2007 1:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:42 PM

First, your ignorance of history is appalling - you completely misunderstand the rise of communism in Russia or WHO was behind it.

You STILL do NOT get what RIGHTS and FREEDOMS are about in America, that makes YOU dangerous.

August 24, 2007 1:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:42 PM

...and your rant is STILL substandard! NYAH!!

=oP

.

August 24, 2007 1:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you dont like Zuma

DONT READ HIS POSTS!

August 24, 2007 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not hard to see ZD is doing what he claims not to, posting anonymously

August 24, 2007 2:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higbynshould think twice before he turn this into a referendum of Zuma Dogg's usefulness to this blog, especially after he got his ass served last week. That Jury came back along time ago.

I dare you to take a vote. ZD would be out on his ass so fast his hoody-hoo would get lost in the confusion.

August 24, 2007 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am first time poster here doing research for another matter but saw this thread and found it interesting.

For those of you who wish to talk about "rights", absolutely NO "right" in the Constitution is absolute. There are limitations placed on every last one of them.

Using the most liberal interpretations of the 1st amendment, and combining it with the legislative intent of permitting a citizenry the ability to redress grievances without fear of reprisal has caused some government bodies to permit off-topic rantings, singing, dancing and other types of "speech" that if done even on a street corner may cause the individual to be arrested for disturbing the peace.

The fact is that this type of speech is often NOT protected under the 1st amendment. Everyone knows that you can't scream fire in a crowded movie theater, (unless of course it was actually on fire) but when someone makes a spectacle of themselves by dancing, singing, or generally not offering legitimate commentary during a public hearing, that individual is depriving someone else of their civil liberty to express their legitimate concern.

What often happens with Municipalities, is in an effort to avoid litigation the City Attorney will apply the most liberal interpretation of the rights of the individual, essentially offering from the cities standpoint the most conservative opinion he can which tends to embolden individuals to continue their bad behavior.

That doesn't serve this Democracy one iota, in fact it threatens it.

August 24, 2007 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:02 is correct, as everyone has been trying to explain to zuma and higby/ sam for a long time. One person who abuses the system threatens democracy for everyone. When six people copy him and show up to waste up to half an hour each day and are ignorant and annoying and even rude, that becomes a serious issue. If a dozen people showed up and did it, the rules would have to be changed and hurt everyone. It would be the taxpaying citizens with real issues and problems who would be hurt. So Zuma is hurting real citizens who might really need that opportunity.

August 24, 2007 3:20 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I find it really silly that people think that Zuma is a threat to Democracy and the reason for the fall of the Soviet Union.

The bigger threat is government corruption, of which, its rampant. And because of that, yes its a good thing that the government be disrupted. We as citizens should make it very hard for government to do things - that is one more check and balance on those who would avail themselves of the public treasury.

I've done some internal investigations and research - the anti-ZD wave is so shallow you'd have to laugh.

And again - I don't totally endorse what Zuma does. Even when he makes me laugh. Why does Zuma make me laugh? Because he makes self-important assholes who are ripping us off look like the fools they are.

If he has to act like a fool to do it, so be it. You may look at the dancing or the singing or whatever - but listen to the words man. The guy knows what's going on.

And that's why you're scared. Otherwise if he was a clown you would not think twice. Somehow he threatens you and its more than wasting time at Council. Cause if wasting time was the issue every CM wastes 1000% more time than Zuma.

So blog away dum dums.

August 24, 2007 3:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby, you're delusional. But, every game needs a cheerleader. ZD is a cheerleader. He has heart, but lacks skill.

Still, George W. Bush was a cheerleader.

August 24, 2007 4:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:20 PM

Very unlikely, however, if the body of our employees found that every time they met, masses of individuals showed up to "waste time" by standing at the microphone to play and sing for six minutes, I am sure they would find a way to handle it that would not squelch citizens' rights such as, perhaps, limiting all activity at the podium to spoken comments and discussion only, no singing, giggling, skipping, hopping or dancing allowed. This, to say the least, is a VERY unlikely scenario. If you happen to have one or two more colorful citizens who present their comments in a more unorthodox manner for six or ten minutes that hardly seems an undue burden for chronic time wasters to bear. It certainly bears NO resemblance to "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater"!

You keep referring to ZD as not being a citizen or something you call "not a REAL citizen"... It is unclear what a "real citizen" is unless you mean, for example, as compared to an illegal. One is either a citizen or they are not.

QUESTION TO ZD: ARE YOU A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES?
.

August 24, 2007 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"There is major corruption and shady dealings going on in local government and a number of attendant community organizations, businesses, unions, developers, etc. who all have their finger in the pie. When the MSM refuses to lift a finger, thank God we have Zuma and others who dedicated their lives (however you may judge them) to these causes."

Well said Mayor Sam!

August 24, 2007 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:53 PM

Well said! I, likewise, frequently do NOT agree with ZD, but will defend absolutely his right to express his opinions and concerns! We live in a very dangerious age where those who subscribe to the PC way are trying to find ways to limit and deny rights to those who do NOT subscribe to the PC way ... vigilance to fight these types at this time is critical! Their mindset is like a poison.

August 24, 2007 4:07 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

MAYOR SAM...yeah, yeah! Did I ever tell you that you are such an excellent blogger! Sorry one jealous crybaby loser who is able to hide under "anonymous" is clogging up the comment section. But the person has been so revealed, there's no fooling anyone, anymore.

Someone said..."listening to an idiot telling them wha't wrong with them and having nothing to contribute."

[Excuse me. I do not tell them what is wrong with them. You do not decided whether someone else has anything to contribute, or not. But when a Councilmember are agrees to add my "friendly amendment" on an agenda item, or CM or BOS says, "It's like Zuma says" or, "Zuma's right on the money"; or you get an email saying, "Great ideas. Thanks for the input"; or OTHER public comment speakers start echoing your comments; and radio talk show host say, "Wow Zuma, you've been talking about that for a while, and I haven't heard anyone talk about it and you were right"...


I WOULD SAY THAT'S CONTRIBUTING! So shut the f*ck up you loser. Either assemble a crowd of at least 100 people or more; bring the cameras and let's do a live debate/town hall forum. And at the end, we'll let the crowd decided who they feel had more to contribute to the meeting. (That's not a blanket challenge to everyone reading...JUST YOU LOSER...Cause that's a sure and easy victory.)

2:42pm: I dare YOU to take a poll, not on this inside blog, but in the 15 districts. Do some market research. Go ahead and find out the true public perception out there regarding ZD. Or maybe you already have?

Mayor Sam should get a lot of credit from readers of his blog for letting me contribute. Because all along from day one, ZD and MS differ on a lot of issues that I represent an opinion on.

I think he strives to try and keep a diversity of opinions on this blog. Too bad ONE jealous crybaby loser can't play with the rest of the class. (I'm not saying there isn't ZD opposition out there on the issues I present. I'm just saying there is ONE person out there who is like an angry 3 year old living in an adult body.

August 24, 2007 4:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD Just sign your posts. There are maybe 3 people who will defend you, Sam, Yourself and Matt Dowd.

Sam just compared you to the revolutionaries at the Boston Tea Pa party so that pretty much confirms that he's been inhaling too many bus fumes. Which also explains why you are still here.

August 24, 2007 4:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD... Who is this loser you refer too? Who is this "anonymous poster" you refer to? Because I posted the last comment and you don't know me from Adam.

August 24, 2007 4:41 PM  

Anonymous zumatimes.com said:

is the miguel c. investigation back on as zt has heard?

August 24, 2007 4:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD wants someone else to assemble a crowd of over 100 and have a debate?

How old are you man? 13? "Meet me after school under the net"

August 24, 2007 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Dr. Seuss said:

Zuma Dogg is not amusing
Zuma's blogs are all confusing
Zuma speaks just of himself
Time for Zuma to get help

Mayor Samm rolls out this Dogg
Just to get hits to his blogg
But Mayor Sam will be the fool
When all his readers bid "Adieu!"

August 24, 2007 5:03 PM  

Anonymous mixed-use resident zuma dogg said:

4:41pm,

I didn't say EVERY post was from one person, I said there I one person who is in deep need of emotional help. I feel there is one person, who if they were locked in a room for a week, you would see a noticiable difference in the tone of this blog.

And 4:41pm, the problem is ANY anonymous loser, like youself, can say, "Gee ZD, I posted that last pussy-ass comment about you and Matt, and you don't know me?"

WRONG!!! I DO KNOW YOU. I think what you mean to say, is that you are not that single loathsome, in-effective, no-leader, and questionable family man (for spending as much time on this blog, obsessed with ZD).

This isn't about saying ZD has 100% acceptance approval. I am here to say, and I think mayor sam also feels, that there is ONE SINGLE PERSON who is posting way to many comments back and forth to himself trying to give the illusion that there is a huge wave of people who actually give a sh*t enough about me to spend countless hours, round the clock, trying to prove how ineffective I am.

MEANWHILE: ZD GETS 2 WEEK MORITORIUM ON HIS HOMELESSNESS! STAYING IN BLINGED OUT APARTMENT IN UPSCALE SANTA MONICA MIXED-USE AREA. Gonna be like a mini-vacation...I HOPE. And if anyone is in the Venice/Santa Monica are this weekend, or for the next to weeks...holla at ya boy.
And I saw this one room in the apartment with this big porceline thing, with water that comes out of the top like a sprinkler. I should try and figure out what THAT is...maybe it's something I can use.

August 24, 2007 5:05 PM  

Anonymous moderator dogg said:

moderator dogg:

i did not mention anyone's name here. so please do not say "zuma please drop your attack on (someone's name). the one crybaby loser who posts over and over to himself on the same topic of zuma dogg should drop it. (As they suggested in the post i deleted, because they said i should drop my attack of (person's name) and I don't see that here. So YOU please drop it.

IF YOU KEEP DROPPING SOMEONE'S NAME CLAIMING I AM ATTACKING THEM...MAYBE YOU WANT THE ATTACK TO KEEP GOING. YOU DROP IT. DON'T USE ANYONE'S NAME IN REFERENCE WITH MINE, AND THERE WON'T BE A PROBLEM, WILL THERE?

August 24, 2007 5:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD... you seriously think ANYONE cares enough about you to sit here all day and blog about you?

You think highly of yourself.

August 24, 2007 5:11 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

The more things change the more they stay the same. I've (obviously) been on this blog since day one. We're almost three years old.

There is always some blogger on here who is a lightning rod that people are bitching about. First it was Chief Parker, then it was Tofu Girl, then it was Jennifer Solis and now its Zuma.

If you don't agree with him and you don't think he has any power or impact, just ignore him.

August 24, 2007 5:14 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

511 - uh, looking from the back end of the blog (bad analogy maybe), uh yea there is. Even if you read the posts you see a consistency of language. However I think its more than one person and I don't think its necessarily who everyone thinks it is.

I also believe there is a third party who is specifically seeking to drive wedges between Zuma and others.

August 24, 2007 5:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

August 24, 2007 5:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma dogg is teh suck cuz he front the anger, bitch-h8, crime 4 money hip hop thug life and he be WHITE!

whatever he's trying to say, he's so 18 months ago over.

August 24, 2007 6:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It was a particularly cold day on Thursday, December 16, 1773. When the Sons of Liberty thinly disguised as Mohawk Indians headed toward Griffin's Wharf, where three vessls had arrived the day before.

Swiftly and efficiently, casks of tea were brought up from the hold to the deck. The casks were opened and the tea dumped onto the docks.

One of the Sons of Liberty, the late great Samuel Dogg ran onto the docks. Slipping on the tea he shouted "damn you King George! On behalf of all the Colonies I shall sue the State of Britain". Following his cue, the remaining Sons of Liberty Sir John Dowd, Moe Anderson, Larry Johnson and Curly McFly began documenting the "fall".

The comotion got the attention of of the Redcoats who ran over to the warf. Seeing the crew of obvious vagrants on the dock Lord Chamberlain gave the order to summarily execute them preserving the Colonies and preventing the Republic from ever forming... saving centuries later from ever having to hear "hoody-hoo" at a city council meeting.

If only.

August 24, 2007 7:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oyez!!! Oyez!! OyeZ!!!

Listen to the words of King George!!! these Cowards in this hall, in Philadelphia, are just another bunch of lawyers who are trying to oppress the people. These so called rebels are nothing but lawyers whose intentions are to rob the people once the armies of King George are sent away. Down with the continental congress and down with those who would sign such a document claiming that all men are created equal.

These are just another bunch of politicians who will tax the people even more once King George is no longer the King of these colonies!!!!!

an thus it cam to pass ,that in 2007 these politicians did arise and begin to tax the people unjustly , these new politicians. We call the City Council of the City of Los Angeles

August 24, 2007 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just to clarify and be fair, a number of the posts supporting ZD above are mine and I am NOT ZD, I don't know ZD or anyone else here at this blog. I am not an "insider", simply an enraged and fed up CITIZEN!

August 24, 2007 8:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hardly ever post on this site, but like many people I know who simply read this blog site occasionally due to news about our city that can not otherwise be found, I appreciate the efforts of Zuma Dogg to shine light on the vestiges of power - both at city hall and now - at least for a bit - at the County Board of supes.

I don't agree with everything Zuma Dogg says, but I agree with much of his concern about the abuses of power in government, the excesses of government, and the overdevelopment efforts in this city - which are also all about those in power staying in power and money.

And I also appreciate that Zuma Dogg has the time and effort to make sure some who might be watching on television know there is a watchDOGG like him speaking truths on behalf of the citizenry.

It is interesting to me - and offensive - to see postings of profanity and other intelligible rantings which are obviously designed to lead reporters and others of us who are interested away from this blog. As long as ZD, Joe and others continue to speak up and post important info for the citizenry (like the recent info about Autry/Southwest Museum/Griffith Park expansion - which has not been available anywhere else I've seen), then I will keep reading - and trying to ignore the efforts to lead me elsewhere.

Thank you Mayor Sam, ZD and Joe for your efforts.

- a resident of playa del rey

August 24, 2007 9:31 PM  

Anonymous One Who Knows said:

Then you are as ignorant as ZD. He should not be encouraged.

I also think ZD should be banned from this blog and this is my first post to this thread.

I agree with the others that he is a total waste of time and effort.

Dump this fool.

August 24, 2007 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

there are activists and residents across in neighborhoods throughout Los Angeles who have told me they appreciate Zuma Dogg and his political theatre.

most of these people are usually thinking they have no one who understands them at city hall until they hear zuma dogg at a city council meeting.

his words are resonating. no wonder staffers (who often want to taste the power their bosses have and have aspirations to run for city council themselved) at city hall want to shut him up.

August 24, 2007 9:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Then you are as ignorant as ZD."

I think this is commonly known as "attacking the messenger" - which also seems to be happening to Zuma Dogg.

- a resident of playa del rey

August 24, 2007 10:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The anti-ZD poster is positively obsessed, ney even RABID!

This begins to smack of UNREQUITED LOVE!

Has ZD spurned any ardent advances in the recent past from some denizon of City Hall?

That may be an explanation for all this...

(NO, I am NOT ZD, I am ENRAGED AND FED UP CITIZEN)

August 24, 2007 10:38 PM  

Anonymous Captain Jack Sparrow said:

Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen (removes hat, takes off sword, removes golves and bows low with flourish and looks at sots with evil eye after stepping upon soapbox):

Thank you, silly sots, for proving me right. On a previous thread the other evening I made reference to those who would engage in discrediting the lad known as Zuma and, if you will, to punctuate my remarks I stated that if further discretization of Mr. Dogg's character were to continue it would prove that those who throw the eggs are being paid by those who control the golden goose, savvy?

I was right. (Crew nods in agreement and helmsman extends middle finger to sots. Navigator farts in the general direction of the sots. Sots gag and fall over in dead faint) Apparently the crew feels the same, only in a more hostile manner.

Now, I don't always agree with everything that the lad has to say. God's toenail, I don't agree with the vast majority of the slop that gets posted here. (Looks disdainfully at dirt on fingers and rubs fingers together to expel dirt) But there is one thing that I keep in mind when reading (and writing my own) slop such as this and that is that everyone....EVERYONE...is entitled to their own wrong opinion.

I would remind you stupid Yanks that 200 and some odd years ago, you all got your skirts hiked up to your arses and made a big whoop-de-doo about being able to express yourselves without fear of censorship, wanting to be able to say what you wanted to say without reprisal, and so on and so forth. AND THEN YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED. Now, a select few of you Yanks, the very people who went so bloody looney over the right to speak freely now feel that they have the right to be the arbiter of free speech. (Leans in close to sots) Let me ask you this, o brilliant political scholars, who died and made YOU King? As a legal immigrant who is now a naturalized citizen, I can't begin to tell you how foolish you all look for, if you will, you are oh so very quick to quickly claim those rights of free speech and just as quickly turn right around and decide who has the right to speak and who doesn't. (Scratches head) You small sector of the population are nothing more than a bunch of over-rated wind bags with all the sensitivity of a teaspoon, you are.

And before you decide to turn your silly arses towards me because you have decided that I am now the target du jour for pointing out to you how truly ignorant you are, I would remind you that I am now one of you, except I'm a little more intelligent about how I go about treating my fellow citizen, savvy? And for the record, my remarks are not solely in defense of Mr. Dogg, but of anyone (including yours truly) who happens to not share the same popular opinion as you paid-by-the-letter sots whose opinion is about as creditable as a the CEO of Countrywide who says his company is NOT IN TROUBLE, savvy?

If after reading this you dandified piss weasels decide you want to attempt to discredit me OR ANYONE ELSE for that matter, you'll prove me right when I say that doing so also proves you've got an agenda different than the one you let on about, savvy?

(Puts back on gloves, puts sword back in scabbard and puts hat back on with flourish...and winks at Mayor Sam after stepping off soapbox) My lord Mayor, while these sots may in fact tell you that you suck, I have it on rather good authority with photos to prove it that they, in a parallel fact, do so swallow and do it well, savvy? (Whispers) You should see the lips on this staffer from Villabarbosa's office. This one drinks like a fish! And believe me, I know a fishy drinker when I see one, savvy?

Oh, and Dr. Seuss? The Bard gives you his compliments on a rather witty little ditty (Bard makes Dr. an elegant leg and smiles).

August 24, 2007 10:49 PM  

Blogger Jack Hoff said:

Okay, just because I dig Capt. Jack, I'll own up to the Dr. Seuss post, but...

I don't post on Zuma's threads because in the past when I have been critical of ZD to ZD, he has deleted my posts and then used "pornography" as the reason.

Also, yeah, Zuma's antics can have a far-reaching negative effect. Several weeks back, I had a good bill in front of the L.A. City Intergovernmental Relations Committee and I needed a timely return call from one Doug Tripp. Of course, I didn't get that return call when I needed it before the weekend because Doug Tripp happened to be pre-occupied with his testimony at Zuma's "Crime of the Century" trial. So, it is not just in public comment that ZD can prove wasteful of the public's time, money and resources.

Should MS euthanize the Dogg? Absolutely not. But if this blog is heading for just another weekend beatdown of the dogg, then what is the point of calling it "Home of Los Angeles Politics"?

August 24, 2007 11:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:31 and 9:50 = Mayor Sam, similar wording to the lead-in on the thread. Talk about similar language and word patterns. Probably "enraged citizen" is him, too.

But who is Captain Sparrow, that he is using zuma dogg this way? Obviously wanted to establish him as a "voice," and is concerned that everyone sees the guy is a total braggart and fool, so can't convincingly carry any message he claims to want to get out there.

Because by this time, zuma could yell FIRE in a crowded theater and no one would turn around, even if there really was a fire. Who could care about using zuma this much?
That's the real question here -- ?

To the guy with the ditty about the Boston tea and dumping zuma's ancestor, preventing the decline of civilization in city hall -- BRAVO!

Where are all the clever comments of his supposed supporters, though? Or those juicy tidbits from all the staffers and insiders? Instead, a whole blog devoted to someon who says what everyone thinks of this fool of a messenger? Huh? How insecure are you both? This is a blog in which you attack people, but can't take any criticism.

If Sam deletes this post, we'll know it's an admission.

Go ahead and be dumb on this blog, who cares. But your combined unbelievable arrogance that if it weren't for you guys, people wouldn't understand what's going on in city hall, that they work for and need to account to homeless bums, is delusional. WE taxpayers pay the CM's to do City business, not have their time wasted by you.

But the guy in Bellevue who thinks he's Jesus Christ is certain, too.

August 24, 2007 11:45 PM  

Anonymous Captain Jack Sparrow said:

Good evening 11:45pm (tips hat) Who am I? I am me and we are 7 altogether. And my Five plus a Two and a Six for a Wicked 13. And in the past even my posts have been deleted. Why, I do not know. I would surmise that it's because I hit the nail on the head and the head didn't care to be hit by Captain Jack's velvet hammer.

As for the juicy tidbits, there are a few cans of worms that have yet to be opened. They currently sit locked in a safe in a private residence in the Valley waiting for open season to commence.

My advice to you all: Wag more. Bark less, savvy?

August 25, 2007 12:57 AM  

Anonymous One Who Knows said:

51 posts and still counting; unbelievable.

And about what? An uneducated ignoramus who has nothing to do but read newspapers all day and conduct personal investigations into issues that everyone already knows about.

A guy who wastes everyone's time scrolling through his interminably long posts to get to some cogentcy from Mayor Sam or Joe Mailander.

A smelly vagrant who begs for money for coffee, food or gas, and who dances and sings in the halls of the City Hall, Hall of Admnistration, or LAUSD, making a total fool of himself, while others squirm waiting to transact serious business.

This blog has really disingrated into a Dogg beating that is almost the equivalent of Michael Vick, but not quite. The only difference is that his dogs did nothing to deserve it, while Sam's Dogg brings it on to himself with his insulting and time wasting ways. Because he has nothing else to do with his worthless life, why do we need to be along for the ride?

He has found a captive audience at public meetings, and his dire need for attention has led him to this point.

Sam, if you persist in allowing him to post here, it will be the end of the this blog. People are leaving all the time. We no longer post to his posts, so there is the proof positive for you.

His posts have withered to two or three others in a dialogue with Dogg and his buddy Matt. Check it out.

OK, I've said my piece. This is my second post to this thread, so there are lots of others who are of a similar mind as I.

August 25, 2007 4:11 AM  

Anonymous Phil Krakover said:

As to Zuma Dogg, in the immortal words of Daryl S. Zanuck:

"Count me out."

August 25, 2007 7:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:45 PM

No ... I am Enraged Citizen and I am none of you and I am sure Mayor Sam can check my various IP addresses to verify that...


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Phil Krakover said...
As to Zuma Dogg, in the immortal words of Daryl S. Zanuck:

"Count me out."

August 25, 2007 7:16 AM

There ... now THAT is the way to do it ... simple, to the point and basically says "I don't like ZD and I won't read him anymore" without any attempts at repression... everyone's various rights remain untrampled
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10:49 PM

Captain Jack is always enjoyable and interesting and should post more (only less of the blue content would be nice). ... I always get a craving to ride Pirates at Disneyland after reading him... so fun. Comments on free speech are quite accurate.
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Beware these individuals with this oppressor mentality... if they disagree with you they are the ones who will point the finger at you, cry "terrorist" and have you shipped off to one of those "FEMA" camps one day!

August 25, 2007 7:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky

Beware those who would create thought and speech criminals ...

August 25, 2007 8:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We only target Mid-eastern young men between 17 to 35 for shipping off to terrorist detention facilites.

If they are wearing a sheet on their heads and a heavy vest, there is generally a clue as to their intentions.

When they begin yelling "Allah Akbar" several times also helps us reach these unreasonable conclusions.

So, try doing that and see how we repressive folks do.

August 25, 2007 8:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:28 AM

Just a little out of touch and simplistic, aren't you?

August 25, 2007 9:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sam doesn't want a serious dialogue about whether or not the mutt is good for this blog or even if we want him here. He believes in the free market until the free market tells him to do something he doesn't want to do.

PUT IT TO A VOTE SAM, I double dogg dare you!

VOTE I SAY, VOTE!

August 25, 2007 11:12 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

To the person tripped up by doug tripp. LOL! I really feel bad about that one. Doug's a sweet, nice guy; but he's no shark like the guy who put him up to it. Doug came off like a purgering, repressed, uninformed, sniviling sissy. I GOTTA GET THE MINUTES FROM THE TRIAL. MY Public defender literally had the jury giggling at Tripp at one point.

I can tell you one thing about Doug Tripp. Don't ever let that "hummana-hummana-humman" repressed (whatever) in front of a microphone. He's about a good of witness as Mel Tillis with a blindfold on.

Doug, although you're a nice, repressed guy...no need to try and kiss my ass in the hallways with a nice "hello", and no need to tell me how much you liked my youtube videos. Just keep bending over and taking it up the shoot from your leash master and don't bother addressing ZD when he is walking down the hall or in chambers. You sniviling little sissy.

Thanks for mentioning it, Doc! Sorry your meeting was delayed.

And sorry Doug...I was playing along as if I thought you were cool, but your the biggest mis-informed pussy I have ever met in my life for what you were willing to do. [Next time get your facts straight before you pop-off at the mouth, then have to admit you didn't actually know the rules. HA! No wonder our town is in such a mess with sloppy people like Doug going under oath first, reading the rules later. HEY DOUG...SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN IT COMES TO DESCRIBING HOW ZD IS FEELING INSIDE.

And if you believe half of what you said, then you're even more of an idiot, Mr. Tripp. DON'T WATCH MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS ANYMORE DOUG.

August 25, 2007 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This dogg brags that he put the city through a jury trial to try to get rid of his money-wasting and insulting ways and keeping the city employees from doing their jobs of serving constituents! LOL, Sam you must be so proud of yourself. If there were a vote among the citizens of the city guess whose side they'd be on?

August 25, 2007 2:01 PM  

Anonymous zuma "erickson" dogg said:

I always thought jack was doc. but it just hit me, what if it is that little dude who runs a shady valley organization that is really just a grass roots "front" for a CM run, which he will never win because he lacks true leadership qualities and he will not be able to prevent his hostility from seeping out during the campaign and voters will see right through it, especially when I call it to their attention.

However, Jack does come up with some clever stuff, unlike certain other anonymous pussies.

So I hope I wasn't giving Doc too much credit, since Jack emerged. (Even though Jack's head has popped off a couple times...but for the mostpart, clever opposition (to zd and others.) Jack doesn't ONLY attack ZD...he talks about other things too. I stil think it's Doc...but if it's that little dude...well at least you're clever at times, even if you suffer from fear-based napoleon complexes, and do not have what it takes to win an election from a charisma/public persona standpoint.

August 25, 2007 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD, do YOU even know what you are talking about???

What is with your paranoia lately?

August 26, 2007 1:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

even if MS did a poll they can be gamed.

August 26, 2007 2:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OMG - Here's that fool ZD taking over Sam's posts and taking the blog for himself. And to boot, he;s giving lessons on charisma and popularity. Does it get any funnier? You can't make this shit up!

To the poster who calls Zuma paranoid:

He is not paranoid; he is suffering from existential dread, because people do hate him and are disgusted by his thoughts, appearance and lack of culture.

August 26, 2007 3:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Still baffled, Higby?

August 26, 2007 8:57 AM  

Anonymous Captain Jack Sparrow said:

Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen (tips hat):

No, I am not that little dude. (Looks around at crew) In fact, none of us are that little dude. But you are right about the little dude in the Valley, savvy?

Oh bugger, a flash flood watch has just been issued. Best to make it for port, lads. After we get tied back up in the Marina I'll drop a few spice bits about the new power couple in Los Angeles...Mr. and Mrs. Alarcon whose wedding I attended yesterday.

August 26, 2007 1:09 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

1:09pm,

Captain Jack, when I said I thought Doc was Jack, I meant Jack Hoff. Oops...MY BAD. I could see the confusion. I think the last person ZD would accuse Cpt Jack of being is Doc. That would be like saying I though 2pac was Biggie.

So I was saying that I felt Jack Hoff was Doc, but maybe it was shady valley operator with the napoleon complex. Which if it was, I would have slightly more respect for...but not really.

August 26, 2007 1:45 PM  

Anonymous Captain Jack Sparrow said:

No lad, my arse in the wringer and not yours. No worries.

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Sent from my Blackberry PDA

August 26, 2007 2:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zorro takes a bride.

How long will this onelast, and what job does she get for a consolation when he blows her off?

August 26, 2007 4:33 PM  

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