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Wednesday, April 04, 2007

How Many Homeless Are There? - Part 2

By Walter Moore, Candidate for Mayor Of Los Angeles

How many homeless people are there in L.A.?

The answer is important because the career politicians often use the homeless "crisis" to justify increasing your taxes to pay for one program or another.

City Hall throws around a number of 90,000 homeless. However, as I explained in an article at the Mayor Sam blog on August 21, 2006, the methodology behind that number was unreliable, to put it mildly. The City agency that produced that number actually hired homeless people to conduct the count. That's right: the number is based on the observations and counting skills of people grappling with drug addicition, alcohol abuse, and various forms of mental illness.

It gets worse. They didn't actually count 90,000 homeless. Rather, they counted some unspecified number downtown -- where there is a disproportionate concentration of homeless -- and extrapolated that across the entire city. That's like measuring the amount of sugar in your sugar bowl, and then assuming there's the same amount of sugar in every square foot of your house.

Today, however, the L.A. Times reports that the LAPD. has conducted its own survey of the number of homeless downtown. Rather than hiring the homeless to conduct the count, the LAPD relied on police officers. You know, people who are trained to observe carefully and report what they see?

Guess how many homeless they counted downtown? They counted 921. Two weeks ago, they counted 700. And six months ago, they counted 1800.

Me, I'm going to believe the count made by the police officers rather than the count made by homeless people hired by the agency in the homeless "business." Anyone who wants to hike our taxes based on the homeless "crisis" needs to explain why we should do otherwise.

21 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why not ask ZD? He's amongst them, right?

Sleeps in the van, begs for food, coffee and gas money, and doesn't have a job. Doesn't that qualify him?

April 04, 2007 10:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

USC Lusk Center Casden Forecast Sees Southern California Apartment Rents Bolstered by the Housing Downturn

*West LA and Hollywood rental markets keep their cachet

*Orange County mortgage industry woes cause short-term adjustments

*Inland Empire’s affordable rents attract workers region wide

So Le Mayeur V's plan is to expell the poor out of Los Angeles and bring in the middle and upper classes. Doesn't sound communist to me.

April 04, 2007 11:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, Current forecasts for a slow economy contribute to homelessnes. A slow economy, housing meltdown are issues directly related to homeless issues.

April 04, 2007 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

US: California's economy to slow down

California's economy, which doubles that of Russia, will slow this year because of a stagnant housing market and mortgage foreclosures, economists predicted Monday.

Economists at the University of California in Los Angeles (UCLA) are forecasting real gross domestic product growth to be 2.1 percent, 1.7 percent and 2.5 percent in the first, second and third quarters respectively in the coming fiscal year.

"We are still forecasting a significant slowing of the California economy in 2007, as the double whammy from construction and mortgage finance creates drag on the rest of the economy," UCLA economist Ryan Ratcliff said in the forecast.

The housing market in California will be stagnant for some time because of a surge in mortgage defaults and an "implosion" of the subprime mortgage market, according to the forecast.

The largest increase in mortgage defaults was seen in the East Bay and Sacramento areas and Bakersfield, Ventura and Riverside counties.

Economists attribute that trend to the fact that first-time homebuyers are moving into more affordable areas, and builders in those areas have placed an emphasis on moving inventory quickly, thus stretching lending standards to close a deal.

In 2006, the construction market lost 2,700 jobs. Those losses are expected to continue this year.

"We expect to see job growth in California slow to below one percent through the middle of 2008, with growth in real personal income and real taxable sales slowing to the low 2 percent through this period," said Ratcliff.

In many ways, the national economy is a "mirror image" to 2000, according to the forecast. Seven years ago, the corporate sector was overextended in the aftermath of the dot-com boom, while consumer and housing credit were in good shape.

Now, the housing credit is in trouble while the corporate sector has a healthy cash flow.

Source: english.people.com.cn

April 04, 2007 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tony the Liar has fraudently exaggerated the homeless numbers by about 89,000! All you have to do is drive around and COUNT! I have taken many trips downtown and believe me, the numbers are under 2000!

THE REAL PROBLEM is the ILLEGALS. This city has approximately 5M ILLEGALS! According to Reuters News, 40% of the sub-prime loans were given to ILLEGALS and hispanics!!!

The reason rentals are going up is supply - demand. THE ILLEGALS AND HISPANICS are LOSING their ill-gotten homes and are being forced into the rental market! They are already living 20 to 30 in a single residence. Now that they will not be allowed to buy homes due to the restrictions, they will be FLOODING the rental market.

I happen to be a landlord, and I am swamped with hispanics begging me to rent to them! Now, they have no place to go because there are MILLIIONS of them and there is a shortage of rentals.

I could demand a king's ransom for one bedroom, but I won't rent to migrants. However, there are thousands of unscroupulous landlords out there who are loving the $$$$ they are making for renting out CLOSETS.

Tony Villar is responsible for the destruction of the housing market in LA and he is screwing taxpayers so badly that he belongs in prison!

It's only going to get worse as long as the voters allow this corruption to continue. Villar is a liar and a crook!

Get rid of Tony Villar, the 5M illegals, and to 700,000 gang members and take back this city!

Your tax money is ONLY going to support ILLEGALS, gangs, and welfare subsidies.

LA is now a third world cesspool and we are paying for our own demise!

April 04, 2007 11:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon
89,000 is probably the number of illegals who require housing in Los Angeles. It is masked under homeless. Who can say no to helping homeless. You see, we can say no to helping illegals. Republican Party, Libertarian Party has a duty to investigate the sham.

April 04, 2007 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon
89,000 is probably the number of illegals who require housing in Los Angeles. It is masked under homeless. Who can say no to helping homeless. You see, we can say no to helping illegals. Republican Party, Libertarian Party has a duty to investigate the sham.

April 04, 2007 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ILLEGALS CAUSED ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN!

At the time sub-prime loans were being made available to illegals and other low income people there were warnings about the danger of it from almost every sector of the conservative market place. They were repeated time and again with assertions that taxpayers would be left paying for the excesses of greedy institutions.

April 04, 2007 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I’m sure that the same politicians and leftist media outlets that were saying we should let illegals get home loans are now decrying their “exploitation” by the mortagage companies who made the loans.

Tough luck, Jose.

April 04, 2007 12:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good, maybe if they lose their home, they will turn around and go back to wherever they they came from. The ownership of a house is not a right, it is a priviledge, same as a drivers license.

April 04, 2007 12:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So the chickens have come home to roost.

Hmmm… so there are consequences for bad choices.

Well, looks like what goes around comes around.

Sorry about the cliches but this gives me a glimmer of hope that the illegals will become disillusioned about the American Dream.. I guess they didn’t read the fine print (because it was in English) whereby the Dream is attained through steady, honorable, hard work and education. Not by standing around Home Depot hoping for another lawbreaker to hire you for that day.

They came up here thinking it was a gold rush. I hope they see that the mother lode has been depleted and that they go back and spread the word.

I hope a few dishonorable lenders go broke over this too; serves them right.

April 04, 2007 12:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So…besides being stuck with these people who drain our health care…who drain our educational system…who live on welfare that WE have to pay for…who cause crime rates to soar that costs US money to try and incarcerate these people…WE are going to be soaked by having to pick up the tab on THEIR bad loans! THIS is really what we need more of! You go Bank of America…keep lending money to these people…after all…when you fall…it will be the TAXPAYER who will have to bail you out!

April 04, 2007 12:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, you have to “dumb down” the criteria for loans as to accomdate “immigrants” and other high risk peoples in order not to seem “discriminatory” don’t you? These people know nothing about interest and the upkeep of a home or looking down the road. All they see is getting something for nothing. Typical “give me” mentality.They don’t work hard (as Bush,tells us)or save their money to get what they want, no they want someone else to pay for what they want. 3rd World America? You bet.

April 04, 2007 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Immigrants" in DC area facing foreclosure
The Washington Post reports:



Immigrants are emerging as among the first victims of a growing wave of home foreclosures in the Washington area as mortgage lending problems multiply locally and across the country.

Nationally, 375,000 high-interest-rate loans were made to Hispanics in 2005, and nearly 73,000 of them are likely to go into foreclosure, said Aracely Panameno, director of Latino affairs for the Center for Responsible Lending. About 1.1 million homes in the United States are expected to go into foreclosure in the next six years, and many native-born Americans are likely to be stuck with burdensome loans. But immigrants are getting hit first in part because their incomes tend to be lower and many have lost construction jobs.

April 04, 2007 12:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DEPORT ILLEGALS NOW!!!
Hispanics' American dream hit by mortgage crisis
Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:25pm ET

Hispanic immigrants across the United States are being hit hard by the subprime mortgage crisis, with many risking their life savings in a failed bet on the American dream of owning their own homes.

Hispanics hold up to 40 percent of mortgages in the troubled subprime loan market, where higher interest rates are charged to buyers with a damaged credit history or little borrowing experience.

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20070318:MTFH46792_2007-03-18_16-25-18_N18193288&type=comktNews&rpc=44

April 04, 2007 12:21 PM  

Blogger PhilKrakover said:

Wow!!!

I love the Republicans on this blog.

Go Reagan!!!

April 04, 2007 2:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It has been standard practice in many big cities to exaggerate their number of homeless during the census counts to increase the amount of aid they get from the feds.

April 04, 2007 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^
Yes, who came up with the 39,000 scumbags figure, and how did they calculate this?

April 04, 2007 8:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not sure who came up with the gangbanger tally, but there are enough gangs that LAPD has counted as having membership in the 200-500 member range, that the 39,000 figure cannot be that far off. At minimum, the actual number is in the tens of thousands. This shouldn't be too surprising as many gangs have hundreds of members including Grape Street Crips, Bounty Hunters, 18th Street, Mara Salvatruch and there are gangs in nearly every community in Los Angeles.

Of course this problem could be diminished by about 25-50% in the next two years by simply rescinding special order 40 and working to deport all illegals. Villaraigosa's and others actions on this matter are borderline treasonous.

BTW, you really unnecessarily harm your position when you include racist remarks in your support of deporting illegals.

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