Let Zuma Dogg be Zuma Dogg!
We get an occasional email in our inbox stating that Zuma Dogg is the death of our blog. Of course two or three anonymous dum dums post such in our comments section (and I know who one of you are). But when someone as big and important as the President of the State Bar of California writes to tell you your blog is on death's door you know you've made the big time.Shelly Sloan is an old Bruin educated blowhard attorney who obviously thinks his excrement does not emit noxious fumes. We're honored he took the time to fire off the following screed to us here:
Mayor Sam:I hate to be picky but first off Sheldon, its Dogg not dog - remember Zuma is twice the g you'll ever be. Next I assume Sheldon is referring to that awesome blog known run by the WWG, but he spelled it wrong so I can't be exactly sure. Nonetheless, I've provided a couple of handy links in this post to anyone who wants to read WWG's latest diatribe against the LA Times. By the way Shel, if you're shoving off to (LA)Observe LA Observed you won't be entering a self-congratulatory free zone by any stretch of the imagination.
Why not just change the name to the Zuma Dog Blog?
Your blog used to be fun before he posted these long, tedious clearly biased posts about how great he is.
I check in occasionally now just to see if you are back to a sane format, but frankly, you've pushed me off to La Observed, where I can get a little news without the shouting, ranting and self-congratulatory crap that typifies his long, boring posts.
Shelly Sloan
Zuma Dogg is the best thing not only to happen to this blog but to the city as a whole. Here is a guy who has managed to turn a whole lot of sunshine on local government - and do it in a way that gets attention from a press and public which view municipal affairs as less interesting than watching paint draw. For sure, that's the sole reason behind the consternation of the sub-ten percenter elected officials and those who wish to suck up to them. Zuma Dogg is peeling the back the curtain on their shady government corruption and that has some folks kind of mad.
Despite the whiners, Zuma has his day in court (and wins), becomes part of the story in CD14 and not only is piled on with media attention but even gets recognized at Pizza Hut!
Still, there are some of those who want to try to change Zuma Dogg. Their intentions may be well placed. He didn't get where he was by being (button down and well respected neighborhood activist) Candido Mares. Let Zuma be Zuma!
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 2/05/2007 12:10:00 AM
48 Comments:
First of all, I hate men named "Shelly".
Secondly, you say I'm "clearly biased"?
Well now you just took on Zuma Dogg, bi-atch! Hope your shop is in order! See you in the COURT of public opinion. I hope you got nothing to lose, cause you're about to. And keep Zuma Dogg's name out ya mouth bitch! Ya herrme! And finally you agendize crybaby pussy...if you don't wanna read Zuma Dogg..scroll down the page bitch. Bitch!
no nicey-nicey
ahhhh be nice zuma. she's looney!
Zuma,
Sloan is a lobbyist and legal representative for contractors, brokers and operators of real property projects.
Isn't that one of the big issues you speak out against?
And Mayor Sam is not the only blog moderator he has complained to about you.
Follow the money Zuma and keep it up.
Well, well, well!
It's been a long time since my kids went to John Thomas Dye School with Shelly Sloan's kids. Things have certainly changed in this city since the good ole days...haven't they Shelly? How are you and the Mexican mayor getting along?
Zuma Dogg....not to worry! This is a very good sign. You have caused more than a little consternation amongst the powers that be....and that's a good thing!
And to Mayor Sam....congratulations! You have these corrupt city 'hand maidens' running scared!
There are still some of us conservative Westsiders left and we will take back our city!
Its cool that Mayor Sam is sticking up for his writer, but I'm not sure if airing a private letter sent his way is really appropriate... unless Shelly was okay with this.
But now that its out there, its a shame Shelly is of the mind that he has to choose between one blog or another. Both are free, and both are awesome, and both do their own thing. I check out both LAO and MS daily. And, with both, like other sites, if I don't want to read something, I just scroll on by to the next post. So, if he doesn't like what Zuma has to say, just ignore it.
But if you really care whats going on in LA, after you're done browsing blogging.la, you really should check out Mayor Sam and LA Observed on a daily basis. ;)
PS: You refer to Shelley as "an old Bruin educated blowhard attorney". According to his bio, he earned his law degree as a USC Trojan... although his undergraduate was from UCLA.
Shelly, you dumb old bastard, you're about to learn how vicious the blogosphere can be. Are you nuts?
Mayor Sam I don't understand why you're giving this creep attention? When I first started reading saying he was an attorney I thought you were going to be sued.
Yes, Zuma at times can get on your nerves but you gotta give him credit for getting attention and making clowncil listen to the issues. I do have a problem with how public comment has all these constraints but I'd much rather hear Zuma Dogg then those idiots Matt Dowd and Mike Hunt. Hey, Zuma what happened to Mike? You said something last week about him.
this 'idiot' just got word from Hollywood that they want to license his music into some productions.......
"hey Matt, I have a cue here from you that I want to submit for a trailer. Its for a cool project where more of your music maybe needed... talk soon - DC "
anyone really in the music industry would know who DC is.
but you get your wish, Mike Hunt has his own agenda, which I'm sure he will pursue, and Matt Dowd has his future priorities which are separate from Hunt's, especially since the Venice 42.15 legal fight is over.
I personally wasn't a fan of some of Hunt's tactics and strategies, we were just unlikely associates when we were discriminated against as vendors, and as civilians.
That's over now, and I may possibly make the odd appearance in council, when my schedule allows it.
Until then, I may need to get the number of the mayor's hair salon. I gotta get my hair colored, since I'm in the rock n roll business.
David,
Thanks for pointing out that Sheldon went to USC law, the article I linked to didn't state that (at least I didn't see it). Still a Bruin though and as I have often been told "nothing good ever comes from a Bruin. (Aren't our current and previous mayor bruins?)
With regards to publishing reader letters, my policy if someone signs a letter and does not expressly indicate they need to be anonymous, its fair game. Particularly if its just someone giving their personal view of the blog.
And come on - you know Mayor Sam does not suffer blowhards like Sheldon, Roderick and the others easy.
Fellow bloggers feel free to pick up on the meme of the old, crotchedy state bar president who seemingly can't handle little ole Zuma Dogg
and I got to thank the big ZD from the 2-1-3 for noticing the Brown Act travesty last Friday, and other anomalies in CD 11 politics.
a pair of goldfish could have run that meeting better than those co chairs Ritzman, and Lucks.
Mayor Sam do you think Shelly will check in to see his name in print here on the blog or is he sticking to his guns and only reading LA Observed now?
Well don't get rid of zuma but if Matt dowd took a hike it would be good.
once Hollywood notices my Russell Crowe accent, my chiselled features, and my abundant talent, then possibly I may take a hike (to the bank), but until then biatch, I'm gonna stay just to annoy you. (and read my name in print)
thanks for being bothered enough to blog about it.
Dear Mayor Sam,
It is sad that you have such hubris as to not recognize that some (some, not all, but still some) of the people who have written you complaining about Mr. "Dogg" are thoughtful fans of the blog who miss what it has been.
You are enmeshed in it, so you may not see what those people do, and you don't hear the comments those people hear (for example, from politicos, "I used to go to that site, but not since that wacko Zuma Dogg started posting.")
These people have written you on PRINCIPLE and because they care about a wonderful site for free expression. And no one can fault them for that.
I am sure Mr. "Dogg" will post his usually nutty replies with plenty of the word "bitch." Forgive me for stating the obvious to a moron: he's just trying to censor people who disagree with him, just like the Councilmembers he opposes.
And a note on "fearing" him. City Hall has had gadflies for generations. No one really cares.
Many people think of Mr. Dogg as a (1) public figure who (2) spouts his opinion to try to get publicity while (3) raising money from the public and his supporters and (4) with not purely altruistic aims, i.e., a lot of it is to further his own career.
Hmm... sounds just like all the other creepy politicians to me. Just on a much smaller scale.
I support the good intentions Zuma Dogg has. However, if Zuma Dogg has his own web site then why is he always posting on Mayor Sam? Why doesn't he post a link and people who want to read what he has to say go over to his web site? It gives people who don't like him the argument that he's using Mayor Sam readers because he can't get any on his own site.
First off, we get a greater number of positive comments about Zuma than we do negative. And in most cases those who do complain are people who have some kind of personal interest in silencing Zuma - for one reason or another.
Our hits go up everytime Zuma posts something. Some major issues have been highlighted that otherwise probably wouldn't have. And its due to Zuma that we are regularly almost daily mentioned on a number of talkradio programs that you may want to poo-poo but ones Arbitron says are the top (if not number one as in the case of John and Ken and Mr. KABC) rated in their timeslots.
I realize that Zuma's style may not be some people's taste. That's fine. Skip his articles. Are you so lazy you can't scroll past his writings to get to one of mine or to Walter's or any of the others? That's why we provide a number of different bloggers who have vastly contrasting styles and points of view. And we're working to bring on a few more. Most of the big blogs in town are one guy's point of view.
And finally so what if Zuma is looking to make a few sheckels off his work? I don't think its a big deal for him to seek some recompense for his expenses to bring us the sheer volume of information he gets, information that none of the other bloggers on this site always have access to. Besides - all the rest of you sub one-percenters, union hacks, staffers, developers, lobbyists, etc. are making far more money off your "work" than Zuma will see.
And if Zuma sells more t-shirts, gets more hits on his website or gets that eventual HBO deal because of Mayor Sam, so be it. Good for him.
Now go gargle with razor blades you nitwit because you still obviously don't get it.
Way to go Mayor Sam! Its about time someone told Shelly where to go.
First of all, thanks to the person who just emailed me the pdf file of shelly sloan's myriad of campaign contributions to the mayor and all fifteen members of City Council. (Including Padilla, now vacated.) So, I am getting the thread ready. Looks like lots of lobbying for construction projects in the valley. Plus, now I know how to surf the Ethics Commision website for all this kind of info now. So it will make me a much better public comment speaker, blogger and radio caller.
Now, regarding the even more ridiculous comment:
ZD raising money from the public and his supporters. Dude, are you kidding me. I'm curious...How much money do you think I have raised since April '06 when I started all this at city hall? Seriously...I'm curious as to what the perception is, out there.
I'll try and add it all up, as best as I can, cause now I'm curious. But I wanna see your figure first.
Some of you clowns bitch about how great Mayor Sam "used to be."
What are our choices? Zuma's antics spreading some sunshine and exposing corruption?
Or paid anoy-bloggers Mike Trujillo and Brian Hay spinning for Villaraigosa and Hertzberg respectively. Don't forget as well Trujillo using the blog to anonymously threaten journalists and others who dared to cross AV's path.
Our hits go up everytime Zuma posts something.
If you'd have been born a girl, Mayor Sam (shudder), your mama might have schooled you on the reality of this. There's a difference, girls, in being "attractive" and being an "attraction".
Freaks at the circus are "attractions". The "fat lady" there is an "attraction". Pileups on the freeway are "attractions". Crime scenes are "attractions."
ZD is an "attraction".
That doesn't mean the credibility of the blog is helped by his postings, any more than Brad Pitt's going to propose to that fat lady.
February 05, 2007 11:55 AM
Please return to the facility and check back in at the reception desk as soon as possible. Everyone is worried about you. You have been off your meds for too long.
12:05 Tell 11:55 the martians left him a package at the depot.
"A RED SPOT REBUTTAL TO SHE-lly"
This guy Zuma Dogg has two GG's that are lacking from your anatomy(G DENOTES GONADS). He may not be rich in pocket, but if your were to take a visit to the "BANK OF KARMA". One would find that Mr. DOGG has stached away enough Karma deposits for his work. If 11:48 is correct, then SHE-lly is simpling a lapdog mouth piece for the speculators that "HIS POLLONESS" counts on to finance his efforts to become the "LATINO BOSS TWEED". One day we on the front lines of the bloggersphere of democracy, will look back upon the hard work of the "GUARD DOGG OF GRASS ROOTS", and toast a 24 ounce of Bud Ice his way. Back to "SHE-lly" to paraphraise Oliver Cornwell, "IF YOU MUST, LEAVE THIS BLOG, GO, GO NOW !!. GO NOW TO THE PBS, LIFE AND TIMES, BLOG OF THE TIO TACO, A.K.A. WHITE BOY OF L.A. BLOGS, GO NOW!!.
...... and take your snooty, elitist, POLLONISTA ass kissing, empty head with you !!
"RED SPOT OF REASON IN CD 14"
Who is Red Spot?
This is what I want to know.
Later,
Purple Spot
12:05 and 12:08
11:55 obviously hit the nail on the head (hard), because the Zumaholics went right to the ad (ho hum) hominem.
I feel your pain. I had cartoonish heroes once, too.
But the reality of life is that Howard Stern wouldn't have made a very good governor; Jesse "the Body" Ventura didn't; and Ross Perot was a paranoid, napoleonic lunatic.
It's fun to play anarchist and contrarian for awhile, but being critical of everyone and everything, just for laughs, never really improves life for any of us or makes any of our leaders serve the public need any better.
It just eventually takes the wind out of the sails of those who really are trying to make a difference. They finally just give up and say, "screw it" - I can't please these people with anything I do - I'm going to go make some real money, and live at the beach.
And what's left to "lead" us isn't worth scraping off your shoes.
So much for "laughs."
1155 = alger
1258 all clowning aside you are not understanding what Mayor Sam, Walter and Zuma are doing.
They are not simply spouting "Villaraigosa (or whoever) sucks." They're exposing the politicians and presenting solutions. That's why I read this blog.
The bloggers recognize a bit of screwball humor goes a long way towards making a topic (local politics) that is about as interesting as a boil on my aunt's ass somewhat amusing. They are getting some otherwise tuned out folks to listen.
Of course that is the thing most of the professional politicians in LA don't want to happen. Bureucrats succeed due to the apathy and lack of awareness on the part of the public. Zuma and Mayor Sam are ripping away some of that veneer. That's why our elected officials, those who feed off them and those who want to be them are pissed.
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen (removes hat and bows low):
Them that is liked by pirates is not liked by politicians and their ilk. Needless to say we pirates find Mr. Dogg to be quite the gad fly as he causes sots to go "Ee Gads!".
But whether the gad has nads is not for us to comment upon. Especially in a nad-less town such as this, savvy?
Let the Dogg be. Try to make him something he is not and he is liable to end up neutered with a poodle cut.
Higby: It's no longer fun and games with real names -- specially when they're not electeds. I hope the moronic ZD carries through on his threat and goes after Sloane. Then I hope Sloane sues you and ZD.
Huh...huh...huh...Where's my cap and glasses, y'all...I thought we already got 500 City Attorneys, y'all?!?! I gotta try and figure out why we gotta pay more taxpayer's money to hire outside attorneys? Why don't we just replace the ones we have, with the ones you wanna keep hiring. This is just my initial finding, pending further analysis. But waaay to much info keeps flowing into on that defeated crybaby, Shelly Sloan. And I got a loooooooong list of Mayoral and Councilmember donations to looks at from this President of the California State Bar, who is tight with the mayor.
OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
ROCKARD J. DELGADILLO
CITY ATTORNEY
RE: RECOMMENDATION FOR RETENTION OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL (PASQUAL v. CITY OF LOS ANGELES)
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT CASE NO. CV. 06-05303 (CJC)
The Honorable Budget & Finance Committee: Office wishes to meet in closed session to discuss the hiring of outside counsel for
assistance with the litigation entitled Pascual v. City of Los Angeles, CV-06-05303
(CJC).
We ask that the matter be placed on the Budget and Finance Committee's closed session agenda as soon as possible or no later than its meeting of February 12, 2007.
Sincerely,
Rocky J. DELGADILLO, City Attorney
red spot...thanks so much. and the bud ice reference means you are a KABC listener, as well!
and red spot..."purple spot" wants to know who you are...hmmm, who else wears purple (ski cap)?"
Congrats! You must have finally arrived.
Warning y'all...Red Spot is way smarter than BZD. Should be a lot of fun!
so now doc is posting anonymously (12:58PM). hmmm! oh great...now he's gonna post as doc saying it wasn't him. save the space, y'all.
* thanks, cpt.
*1:25pm says, "hope the moronic ZD carries through on his threat and goes after Sloane."
what threat? can he sue me for logging onto the official Ethics Commission website and looking at the information they provide.
Jeeze...You know what, dough? Now you done pissed me off...know why?
Here you have a guy (ME) that the mayor and city council unconstitutionally took away my income (and a judge agreed in his preliminary finding), my life tanked...so I show up at City Hall, without a penny, speak my mind, based on info the people give me, and you have a problem with that? Well that's fine, even though you obviously have so much money you are handing it over to the mayor and all 15 councilmembers hand over fist as a lobbyist representing constuction and real estate projects...and I'M RUINING YOUR PARADE? So now, you complain to MY boss, Mayor Sam and contact OTHER BLOGGERS and tell them unfactual mistruths, call me biased, are trying to discredit me? WELL EVEN THOUGH I DON'T GET PAID LIKE YOU TO FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE -- YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY INCOME...
So this isn't about silencing you Mr. Defeated Crybaby, Shelly Sloan/President of the California State Bar Association/Friends with Tony/Friends with the dummer George Bush...It's about letting people know the person saying it is a paid lobbyist representing construction and real estate, and the whole city knows that's my #1 most outspoken topic in the court of public opinion, which YOU just admitted you lost. Thanks!
Zuma Dogg,
Public Advocate of the Community
and ps: hey mayor...lucks sucks! (Let's start chanting that inside chambers, y'all...)
Zuma,
If Sloan is publicly spewing his frustration with you, that can only mean one thing. The people he is used to hearing "yes" from are now saying "no"
Mitch,
What is Sloan going to sue Mayor Sam for? Publishing his email? Thanks for giving me a smile Mitchell.
Because ZD will screw up.
Zuma
I think alv ins gonna win this one.
Huizar neglects meetings with community activists. His meetings are for high rollers-campaign donors.
yeah, the word on the street with the community leaders in CD 14 is that they are mad at Huizar for "dodging" the community. Refusing to allow the community to see a debate where he speaks on his feet and tells the voters what they can expect from the Councilmember in exchange for their vote.
They feel he is hiding behind fat cats, and feels his flyers and fat cat support is all he needs to win.
So that's his strategy. So the question is; can these vocal community activists (and i have spoken with enough different people, that this IS a vaid "street vibe") get the word out to defeat the absent Huizar.
My one CD 14 man on the street say, "It's out of respect for the constituents. As CM you have to face the public. There's been no real public debate on the issues of crime and density. Huizar will only agree to 'meet and greets'. His campaign manager is acting like a defense laywer. 'Just plead the fifth. Don't answer any questions'.
Another CD 14 community activist says, "We want to hearn what he will be bringing to the district regarding residential housing and the schools."
LOBBYIST = LOUNGE LIZARD
That had to have been Mitchell cause why would he even bring up Alger when Higby is talking Zuma Dogg?
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THE NEW LOS ANGELES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEscUpv6JM
FUNKY TO FABULOUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuek8Pu2PYg
LATINOS AV AMERICA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc1XAQc8hS8
BAILED OUT? GOTTA WATCH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_gVa-b6rHI
ETHNIC CLEANSING IN L.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t_Di6a6NM
PROTESTS AGAINST ZIONISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wNpZEXPwqA
VILLARAIGOSA DECLARES WAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBIqMD0Hc2c
WE CLEAN YOUR TOILETS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fh-wMgxq-U
HOY EN LOS ANGELES
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I've got to say that I agree with some of the dissenting sentiments here. While I appreciate ZD's role as a tireless gadfly, the amount of posts and the bitch-talk are starting to drive me away. If the present trend continues, I think what you'll end up with here is nothing but a small choir of insiders. Are we already past the point of no return on this process? Maybe. That's sad, but nothing lasts forever. Is it too premature to say, RIP Mayor Sam?
Good evening ladies and gentlemen (removes hat and bows low):
Now that I've had a chance to make a few phone calls and sip some rum, I must admit that MASTER Sloan's post strikes me as annoying. Anyone who tries to quash an underdog is no friend of a pirate.
But let's talk about something else, shall we? And that something else is MASTER Sloan. So MASTER Sloan is a member of the John Thomas Dye set? Coo-ey guv-nah! I know them that went to that school, as well as Chadwick, Exeter and The Citadel. But to be the parent of one who went to JTD!? Too-rah-loo-rah-lee! Them's got their blancmange on with studs in their holes.
Sots, do you really feel that threatened by Mr. Dogg to need to call in MASTER Sloan? So you give donations to the Powers That Be, do you MASTER Sloan? Far be it from me to criticize, but them is piddly small amounts to give. Surely you can do better than that. Tell me, MASTER Sloan, did you finance a certain candidate hit piece that came out in the mail today with no return address? Nasty thing it was. The sort of thing that only the desperate who desperately want to hang on to their power would do. What will you say if your name become connected with it? Will you be hobbing with the other knobs this Saturday night? Do you give only to public employees or do you throw a few tuppence into the other machines as well?
Zuma lad, this MASTER Sloan is nothing to fear. Remember, MASTER Sloan must prove his case as the burden is on him. All teeth with twice as much adhesive. Besides, anyone who donates an entry for humble pie to the JTD school parent's club cookbook is certainly a force to be reckoned with. Let him sue, and pray that he finds himself before Mdme. Dzintra, savvy?
Oh, and MASTER Sloan? You might want to be quick about rescinding your litigious threat against a certain hound lest that hit piece appear with your name as financier before the knobs have even had a chance to bob.
Beowulf would be proud. Indeed he would.
What candidate hit piece?
Zuma Dog is a fake white-boy ass version of Jerry Quickley.
My peoples my peoples!
1:14am,
Thanks for the comparison! I checked out his link. I'll take it!
1.14am was Jerry Quickly using Mayor Sam for some cheap publicity. Dogg you are twice the man Quickly is....
Zuma Dog ain't a man. He's boy, a white boy!
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