What's Going to Happen in CD12?
Today we are supposed to learn what Jim Alger's plans are for the 12th District. Is he running or not?We were supposed to have an advance copy of a press release containing Alger's announcement, but his people have told us there has been a delay. We don't know what Alger's decision is, but we had presumed he was going to announce he is not going to run. All of a sudden, information is not available and this old, dead Republican Mayor doesn't have a story, well, at least for now.
In the meantime, in light of some whimsical video of Greig Smith sleeping in Chambers, LA's greatest gadfly, Zuma Dogg, was engaged by some CD12 cut and paste anonybloggers who goaded the Doggman to consider moving into CD12 and jumping into the race against Smith. Zuma Dogg running in any district is potentially bad news for an incumbent, considering the high profile he's already gained and the Hollywood money he could raise.
This just leaves a lot up in the air that I didn't expect to be so. Oh well, that's showbiz!
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 8/15/2006 12:08:00 AM
32 Comments:
Zuma dogg is good theater, adept at embarrassing the CMs a little --but that's it. To suggest that he can be more than just a pain in the butt to entrenched incumbents is fantasy. But he does make Garcetti look like he has stick up his you know what.
Zuma Dogg just gave a shout out to you Mayor Sam on Mr. KABCjj
zuma dogg is not good theater, he's great theater.
I mean it. best show I seen on channel 35 ever. pity they don't have a mic on him all meeting. I wanna hear ALL the funny sh** that must go on.
Well I think we should just watch him and see. I think some of you will be shocked. You have no idea how to kick an entrenched incumbents butt obviously. I get the feeling that Zuma Dogg may know how.
First Alger now Zuma Dogg? What is Smith's deal?
If Zuma Dogg ran in CD 12 I would pay some good money to see the debate between him and Smith. Holy shit that would be fun-ny!
Maybe Zuma Dogg can wake this electorate up.
Nothing else seems to be able.
Thomas Kean, chairman of the 9/11 Commission, just said on McIntyre that its unconscionable that Special Order 40 still exists. I wish clowncil staff members would tell their bosses to stop playing with our safety and eliminate this HIDEOUS policy. And while there are it, get rid of the bogus and unreliable Matricular Consular cards.
Maybe people on this blog and elsewhere would have more respect for the CMs (and be less inclined to cheer Zuma Dogg) if the CMs actually tackled issues such as this rather than trying to increase their term limits, collect fat paychecks, while shoving flawed bond measures and fee increases down our throats.
Right now the City Council warrants little respect and they should be treated accordingly. Go Z-Doggg! Gene Simmons rocks..
All I have to say is ... Public Access ... can we say Rosendahl Part 2???
The overwhelming majority of voters is asleep when it comes to local issues, and the City Clowncil wants to keep it that way.
I still smile when I hear people say Villaraigosa won by a landslide. Sure, 58.63% of the people who voted, voted for him. But only 33.94% of the people registered to vote bothered to show up.
Translation: he won the votes of only 19.89% of the registered voters (=58.63% x 33.94%). Landslide? No. Popular mayor? Not judging from the voting statistics. Rather, the winner by a landslide was indifference, with over 66% of the vote!
If we want change, we need to tap into the the people who are not voting now. Perhaps someone as funny as ZD can wake 'em up and catch their attention.
It's about time they started tightening the rules on what kind of benefits illegal immigrants can get in this country.
"Judge raises issue of injury benefits for immigrants"
PAUL DAVENPORT
The Associated Press
PHOENIX - The state's leading workers' compensation insurer says it will ask the Arizona Supreme Court to review a lower court judge's assertion that an injured worker's benefits claim should have been denied because he's an illegal immigrant, not due to his medical circumstances.
The "special concurrence" which Judge Daniel Barker attached to a majority ruling by two other judges on a Court of Appeals panel is not legally binding on lower courts.
However, the State Compensation Fund is worried that Barker's position could lead to confusion over whether illegal immigrants are eligible for workers' compensation benefits and lead to employee lawsuits against employers over coverage, said Christa Severns, a spokeswoman for the quasi-public agency.
The Compensation Fund will ask the Supreme Court to erase Barker's concurrence or issue its own ruling on the issue, she said Monday. "We're asking for some clarification."
The fund, the state Industrial Commission - the state agency that oversees the workers' compensation system - and an association of lawyers who represent injured workers all argued that state law now makes illegal immigrants eligible for workers' compensation benefits.
The case involved a benefits claim by Jose Luis Gamez, a Mesa man who suffered a back injury in 2001 while lifting furniture while working for a furniture company. Gamez asked the Court of Appeals to overturn a 2003 decision that he wasn't eligible for permanent disability benefits.
During a deposition conducted as part of the case, Gamez acknowledged that he was an illegal immigrant using an alias, Mario G. Lopez, in order to work in the United States.
Barker's concurrence to the Court of Appeals ruling issued Thursday said that he agreed with his colleagues that Gamez's claim could be resolved based on his medical circumstance. However, the issue of whether illegal immigrants are eligible for workers' compensation benefits "is a matter of public importance and is likely to recur," Barker said.
The issue hinges on state law, originally enacted in 1925, that provides that employees eligible for benefits include "aliens and minors legally or illegally permitted to work for hire."
Barker said the Industrial Commission "is misapplying the statute" and that the Legislature intended that the law's "legally or illegally" wording applied only to minors and not to aliens.
A specific reference to illegal immigrants would be necessary to make them eligible, he wrote.
"Even if there were no specific legislative intent to exclude undocumented immigrants, the policy choice of including undocumented immigrants in the definition of 'employee' requires affirmative legislative direction," Barker said.
In a brief filed on behalf of the Arizona Association of Lawyers for Injured Workers, attorney Roger Schwartz said state law now clearly makes illegal immigrants eligible for benefits and that it would take legislative action to exclude them.
"When the Arizona Legislature cares to make a specific exclusion, it certainly knows how to do so," Schwartz wrote.
Schwartz cited unsuccessful legislation proposed during the 2006 legislative session to deny eligibility to illegal immigrants.
"If there is a problem here, it is a problem to be fixed by the Arizona Legislature, not by this court," he added.
The case is Gamez vs. Industrial Commission, 1 CA-IC-05-0069.
In case you missed it (for the inquiring minds who wanna know):
LA Times 5-22-06
Zuma Dogg's real name is Dave Elliott, and he says the issue is one that threatens his livelihood as a performance artist: For more than a month, he has regularly appeared before the council to protest a recently imposed ban on street vending along the Venice boardwalk...
Born in Pittsburgh and raised in Cleveland, Elliott says he has been a radio program director and consultant, making more than $50,000 a year.
He says he worked for Top 40 stations in cities across the nation, including Washington, New York and Los Angeles, where he's lived the last 12 years.
Then he reinvented himself as Zuma Dogg.
He made his debut as a performer in 2000 on Howard Stern's radio program. Shortly thereafter, he began performing at Venice Beach and started a cable access show.
Elliott says he made up to $600 a day -- all of his income -- performing and selling on the beach. Now, he says, he is homeless on the days when he can't crash with a fellow performer. Sometimes he sleeps in his white 1999 Dodge Caravan
He describes himself as a "gangsta representing Venice Beach" who can "rap like Snoop Dogg, sing like Whitney Houston, rock like AC/ DC and dance like Justin [Timberlake]." At a recent City Council meeting, he broke into a shrieking rendition of Houston's "I Will Always Love You," drawing laughs from council members.
Elliott said he won't stop showing up as Zuma Dogg at council meetings until the ordinance is overturned.
Seems to me that 10:35 is trying to put "Z" muzzle on Z Dogg!
for the first time in 6 years since I have been going to City Hall , I just witnessed the City Council reconsider a motion after a vote , because Zuma Dogg's public comment card was in another agenda stack.
The City council reconsidered a motion after approving it , then let ZUma Dogg speak and then they , voted on the motion again.
Oh my gosh! Do you mean that the public has rights just like city council?
In other words , the public is actually part of the meetings at City Council Meetings?
Oh my gosh!!!
See that Garza! After years of clowns like you, Alger, Westwater, Netkin, Walter Moore, Leonard Shapiro, etc. finally someone is making an impact. Zuma Dogg figured out something about LA none of you wingnuts ever did - its all about the show.
get a job Garza.
Oh yea, find me one thing he has actually DONE. One policy, one piece of legislation he has actually influenced. Just one.
Most of the people you liated actually changed some things around here, ZD is just a show plain and simple.
City Council "reconsidered" and then voted the same way... some "reconsideration.
They, like Zuma, know how to put on a show.
Thanks to the anonymous homie who posted the L.A. Times article, "Zuma Dogg Wags Tale In Councils Face."
Also, thanks to Mr. KABC and Doug McIntyre for the interviews last night and this morning, where I gave major props to Mayor Sam...Plus a Mayor Sam shout-out today during Public Comment! Watch the replay on TV 35 tonight.
I'm new to this blog, and I can see I don't have to look much further for a constant source of comedy material.
Zuma Dogg I've seen you on Clowncil replays. You are bright and intelligent if you just stop bullshitting around. You have great arguments when you speak on agenda items but screw it up when you start ranting and raving and rapping. Your waste your time doing that. A publicist friend of mine said to tell you to tone it down just a little. You can get just as much publicity and airwaves if you ran against any one of the CLOWNCIL MEMBERS up in March. I would let them all squirm until Oct. when you register. Hell, if Wesson can stand their like an idiot on Fridays with animal adoptions I think you can do a far better job.
August 15, 2006 4:00 PM,
Oh sure, just blow more smoke up his ass, why don't you. And how about Mayor Sam, his fat ass claiming this imbecile can raise money in Hollywood?
Sounds like sour grapes, Wacko. So what if turnout was %33? The final scientific polls before the election had ADV ahead by over %55. There were no polls published that showed that %66 of voters were indeferent, or that they felt ADV was the lesser of two evils. Whether you like it or not, ADV is the most popular mayor since the great Tom Bradley. Oh, and he whipped your ass to boot!
PS, I really don't care for ADV, he can't keep a promise. So don't accuse me of being a staffer.
Oops, I forgot to log in before I posted that.
Acutually all he got was a reconsideration , which menas that was the only way they could listent o Zuma Dogg for missing his public speaker card. And so they voted the same on the motion.
The point I am trying to make is that Zuma Dogg has these people scared if they are doing things like this and not for other public speakers.
He has them actually going by the rules. I think.
but as far as getting things and making changes. Sure public comment .
But I won't elaborate on th changes and the things I have gotten doen in my neighborhood.
Yes it is all about the show. And ZUma Dogg is doing things all of us are afraid to do.
But sometimes I wonder if the only reason they don't arrest him for some of his antics , but not others is because he happens to be white.
14 minutes, 51 seconds. . .
14 minutes, 52 seconds. . .
14 minutes, 52 and 1/2 seconds. . .
. . . (Be back in a few). If Mayor Sam's blog is still touting ZD then, we'll know its the blog, and not the Dogg who's 15 minutes are up.
5:40, I notice you didn't run for Mayor, so I daresay that Walter whupped your behind pretty well... besides, he also whupped Alarcon. Pretty impressive for a novice entering a mayoral race.
As for Mayor Tony, I notice he's managed to alienate just about everyone... including the Hispanic vote (except for potential first-time voters). He's about as popular in some neighborhoods as a skunk that got run over by an MTA bus.
YES, this is the supreme test of what matters. . . where someone like Wacko is self-deluded enough to think they can bust past low single digits in a Mayors race running against an incumbent mayor, a sitting councilmember, two former speakers of the Assembly, and other accomplished politicians -- as a REPUBLICAN, with a "key" message of "no-kill" (huh?), in a majority Democrat city.
That's not showing balls, that's being off your meds.
Give the CC some due. For the most part, they sit through the silly harangues of nuts and near-nuts for a time-elapsed hour or more each council sitting, having already taken the pulse of their own constituents through staff and community meetings, knowing how they should and will vote, while the un-representative gadflies of the city burn taxpayer time drooling out paranoia and self-promotion. . . AND the councilmember usually TAKE it like "men" (forgive me Jackie G.) giving everyone -- even kooks like Zuma Bitch, who have an uneducated opinion on EVERY DAMN AGENDA ITEM, regardless of WHERE in the city.
These are not Town Hall meetings, people, 95 percent of these "public" commenters ONLY represent themselves and other other 27 imaginary friends that rode downtown with them in the 5-seater '73 Plymouth Dusters running on fumes.
Try running this gauntlet of neurotics and street vermin through the "public comment" period at a local neighborhood council, or the the NC congress even and you'd have the thin-skinned wannabe politicians screaming for a repeal of the Brown Act as "counter-productive" to getting their agendas completed on time.
Maybe all of the councilmembers deserve another term, just to get the productive time BACK that they lost the first two terms listening to the hystrionics of the "public" commenters.
dgarzila,
What's up! Just wanted to mention the reason poice don't arrest me ever is beacuse I know what the rules are, and how to walk right up to the line, without crossing it. And so far, I've only used tactics to get me kicked out for the day. If you're trying to win something (first amendment right, or whatever) you have to win with the law on your side. If the day comes when the law changes, and some of the same things I'm doing now, would get me arrested, I wouldn't be doing it. Cause I'm not there to break the law, just use all all the legallity I'm entitled to.
AND AS OF TODAY, -- ONE OF THE COPS IN THE COUNCIL MEETING JUST GOT THEMSELVES IN HOT WATER AGAIN. So as bad as anything I've done is, so far at City Hall, the police who enforce the Chamber meetings have been the only one's in trouble.
AND SOMETHING IMPORTANT PEOPLE DON'T SEE ON TV 35...I spend a lot of time working with Councilmembers, their staff, City Attorney and Police Captain on some of these issues.
And it's easy and fun to bash city hall all the time, but regarding the Police Capt. at City Hall, he deserves credit for hearing out grievences, watching the tapes, or just hearing what we coinsider to be the problem, and the people who mess up, get talked to. THAT'S NOT A SLAM...THAT'S A GOOD THING.
So, if anything has come out of the past four months with all my annoying tactics, is, it caused the people at top to re-train people on alot of these things...and yes, even though politicians never do anything till it backfires in their face, then they're doing damage control, THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY HALL STAFF FOR AT LEAST MAKING SOMEWHAT OF A NOTICABLE CHANGE IN ENFORCING YOUR OWN RULES.
(As reported by dgarzila)
NOW THAT'S IT ON THIS TOPIC, so the city hall spinster...please feel free to poke holes in my sentiments and try and find some typing mistakes, but I felt it was worth a mention, but there are other things we should be talking about.
dgarzila, next time we see each other, i'll tell you some of the rules, if you never looked into, and even on playback of YouTube you can see some of the violations.
regarding 6:24 post. most of that is dead on, and we know that. If you're as perceptive as you appear, of course i'm gonna comment on every item and do everything to annoy the FU** out of y'all to put pressure to have you start doing the right things. Like over-turning that un-constitutuoial 42.15. LOOK HOW IT ALL BACKFIRES ON YOU INSINCIRE POLITICIANS. I came to city hall, what i thought would be one or two times...AND NOW LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THE MORE YOU TRY AND SPIN ME THE MORE YOU REVEAL YOURSELF. And I shouldn't even tell you, because you have been helping me, cause people see through the politcal BS, but you won't be able to help yourselves...and you're gonna make more PR mistakes. (Like having Garcetti & LeBong so vividly describe all the details of the damage from the fireworks and re-tell the whole story, detail by detail.
ZD would have said something MUCH different, and MUCH less....But, again, you'll make the same mistakes over and over.
You guys have to pass all these ethics reforms all the time, and Brown Act Laws and whatnot. Why not just start being a little ethical. It's so much easier, more efficent and cheaper in the long run.
And because of your lack of ethics, you pissed off guys like Z.D. & Matt Dowd, who y'all think you're better than.
But, it backfired worse than your gala fundraising event where you were so f-ing happy to be raisin' all that campaign money, you had to go and shoot off fireworks, right over the heads of the homeless people you put on the streets with these campiagn contributions -- and did all that damage to city hall. (I hope my public records requests I have in didn't get soggy.
It's okay Zoomed Bee-otch, you can use the F-word here. There aren't any little kiddies watching on ch. 35.
You "came" to City Council, because it was your way to bypass "American Idol" tryouts, plus you probably can't sing Celine Dion hits for Shit. You come back, endlessly, face-it, because your equally juvenile, terminally-arrested-development homies text you afterwards in their pot-induced stupors (while sitting in their bedrooms in Mom's basement) and say THAT WAS SO KOOOOL, DUDE.
That's why . . . and you're keeping real work from getting done.
Get a job, get a life, get laid, get your meds refilled. . . maybe all three. Handle whatever's missing from your existence, but DON'T drink your narcotic-addled friends kool-aid and believe you have any, ANY affect on what's happening downtown or in this city.
You're a joke, a "SPEED-BUMP" to real progress gaining steam, and the people there know that. However, unlike the posters here, they get paid to treat everyone one with respect, regardless, whether it's you, or Miss Sylvia, sitting three rows up.
What your incoherent, rambling, illiterate rant has to do with what I (someone in NO way attached to City Council)posted at 6:24, even your shrink couldn't figure out.
Wow. You made some really good points, and I've seen the light.
Thanks. You're right. You made some really good points. And I think everyone in the city reading this agrees with you. Thanks for clarifying that you are in NO way attached to City Council. (It's just cause you said things regarding CM Smith in such certain, factual terms (words like Smith has "never") which the rest of us wouldn't be able to say with such certainty, unless you worked with the guy for years. So, my mistake. But, you much have some relevant, issue oriented things to say. I'm taking in a lot of complex info, and putting it together in a short period of time.
a) correct some of the errors I may have made, so I can be more accurate, next time. (If I'm wrong, I'm not trying to be...and people who give me the info do contact me if i can say something more acuratley.
b) What are some of the things you think we should be focused on/speaking about...what would make you feel I was making better use of time (BESIDES the annoying tactics/personal stuff...things relating to content.)
I would have asked, yesterday, but I thought you worked at City Hall, so obviously that wouldn't be appropriate for me to ask you to help me...but if you are just a constituent like the rest of us, you do seem to be passionate about things, seem to have some wit, it would be cool if you used it in the spirit in which these blogs are intended.
It's disappointing to me that I have met many public comment speakers at city hall who have been trying to create real change for so long, then just cause I come blowing in like the tazmanian devil or Jim Carrey, everybody's paying attention. It is sad, people do vote on things without even knowing which way they are actually pulling the lever...KISS was more popular cause of the make-up than they might have been if they never used it (although they wouldn't have been huge if the music wasn't good, at some level, too) -- and maybe some better musicians, never got the props they deserve.
Some of you guys criticize some of the speakers for not getting an L.A. Times article, or something.
I've met most of the regulars and semi-regulars and many of them kick ass, too...but again, maybe they want to maintain some dignity, where I don't care.
Don't blame them...they're showing up to do and say what is important to them.
And I can tell there are people who are in council chambers for some of these meetings. I hope you say hello, y'all...I think one of y'all came up to me to tell me to back off the mic so it doesn't distort, and I tried. I wonder if it worked.
So to that bitter dude, who doesn't work at city hall...post some issue stuff that maybe some of us losers can bring to the attention of people watching. (The ONLY reason I show up -- certainly not because I think council will do a thing, based on public comments -- but at least the people watching can hear what's up. So go "F" yourself you bitter, non-contributing, focused on all the wrong things, spin everything the exact wrong way and it backfires everytime and the people see it, scardy cat loser.
Zuma Dogg
Word to the wise, CC cops. . . this one's about one challenge away from going "postal."
"Emotionally Disturbed Persons"
Learn about developmental disability, psychotic and neurotic mental illnesses, and the early warning signs of potential violence from the seriously mentally ill.
The subject of this course is the emotionally disturbed individual and the challenge he presents to you, the law enforcement officer. For a multitude of reasons, interactions between people with serious mental illnesses and law enforcement officers are increasing. In this course, you will learn about developmental disability, psychotic and neurotic mental illnesses, and the early warning signs of potential violence from the seriously mentally ill. Included in this course are methods of assessment of people thought to have mental disorders, intervention techniques, and a discussion of involuntary psychiatric commitments. The objective is to keep you aware of the hazards presented by the potentially violent mentally ill person in order to increase your safety.
Although you say this is, "one challenge away from going postal." I think you should give even the CC police more credit than that. Or maybe, you're right and maybe they will go postal on the next challenge. After all, there a couple (and only a couple) cops at City Hall who have trouble following the law, so although it wouldn't suprise me, I don't think they'll go that far. But, when I asked you for some issues, I meant some of the agenda items and ballot initiatives that are affecting the people of this city. Some advice that may be helpful, try to detach from some of the hostility so you are better able to interpert and respond to what people are saying, in the "spirit" in which it was intended....hey, it just hit me...you must, indeed work for CC..if not, you'd be perfect!
And as much as it's fun for me to keep responding to your lunacy...you're arguments are becoming so weak, and completley 100% off topic/diversionary, i think you're in a whole other ballpark at this point. So, why not let the rest of us who are in control of our emotions, play some ball. I'm sorry all of this has been so upsetting to you...and i certainly hope you are not a paid city employee, cause you are obviously spending way to much time, watching for my posts, in try and unsuccessfuly spin me...but you're so bad at it, it's boring people at this point. (Try and evolve your act a little, and attack me on relavant points, and maybe you could score a point with someone in this city.
All you are doing, is having the anti-Greig Smith people feed me more info, to try and get me to run in his district. And although I was gonna run in Greuel's district, they have made some compelling reasons why it should be "Zuma Dogg for 12th District."
So thanks! Mayor Sam...thanks for doing all this great work, that ain't no joke!
How dare you 6:24 pretend you aren't associated with the City Council. Well I suppose you aren't if you are truly delusional enough to think any body believes that Council members DISCUSS ALL ISSUES WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS before they vote? KNOW what they're voting on?? Either you are straight up mother fucking lying to cover your CC ass or you truly don't know how city hall really operates. Not at all.
You're going to call us silly harangues of nuts and near-nuts, neurotics and street vermin and then PRETEND that you aren't a council staffer? Shut the fuck up.
Welcome to the real world of the people elected by us to represent us. That name-calling disrespectful poster is typical of how they really feel about the public they represent. Your boss in city hall should fire your ass, no matter which department it is.
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